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FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service?
RE: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service?
Re: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service?
Re: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service?
FTE 97up - Trailer towing mirrors
FTE 97up - Exhaust in front of rear tire
FTE 97up - 5.4 and 35's
Re: FTE 97up - 5.4 and 35's
FTE 97up - ADMIN: F150 SuperCrew Information
Re: FTE 97up - Exhaust in front of rear tire
FTE 97up - Door Lights

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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 07:16:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Keith rocketmail.com>
Subject: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service?

Experts, did I get ripped off, or is $450 normal for the 30,000 mile
service to a 99 F-150 4x4 5.4 Auto Lariat in SE Texas?

When I questioned the high charge, the Ford service guy said that
30,000 miles is considered a major service with lots of stuff done. As
far as I can see from the service invoice, all they did was change
fluids and check stuff. They also repaired the rear brakes at no charge
under warranty, as they said they were sticking.

I'm still reeling having paid this much, as the regular "every 5000
mile" service to date has only cost about $60 each time!

Thanks in advance! Keith.
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:47:10 -0600
From: Schmidt wcom.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service?

Did you ask before you had the work done how much it would cost? The warning
bells and flashing red lights should have gone off at that point. All you
can do now is post a line item invoice to the list, maybe Nathan or someone
can respond.

My previous experience with the X0,000-mile checkups is that dealers love
anything that has a lot of "inspecting" stuff as opposed to "replacing"
stuff. (It takes a lot less time to inspect something than to replace it,
time=money.)

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Subject: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service?


Experts, did I get ripped off, or is $450 normal for the 30,000 mile
service to a 99 F-150 4x4 5.4 Auto Lariat in SE Texas?

When I questioned the high charge, the Ford service guy said that
30,000 miles is considered a major service with lots of stuff done. As
far as I can see from the service invoice, all they did was change
fluids and check stuff. They also repaired the rear brakes at no charge
under warranty, as they said they were sticking.

I'm still reeling having paid this much, as the regular "every 5000
mile" service to date has only cost about $60 each time!

Thanks in advance! Keith.
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:08:43 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service?

Keith wrote:

> Experts, did I get ripped off, or is $450 normal for the 30,000 mile
> service to a 99 F-150 4x4 5.4 Auto Lariat in SE Texas?
>
> When I questioned the high charge, the Ford service guy said that
> 30,000 miles is considered a major service with lots of stuff done. As
> far as I can see from the service invoice, all they did was change
> fluids and check stuff. They also repaired the rear brakes at no charge
> under warranty, as they said they were sticking.
>
> I'm still reeling having paid this much, as the regular "every 5000
> mile" service to date has only cost about $60 each time!
>
> Thanks in advance! Keith.
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Keith,

Without seeing the bill it is hard to know what you had done. I would
personally not pay $450.00 for any routine service. Your bill must list
what they did and the hours it took or the parts that they used. Look it
over and question the dealer. Maybe they inadvertantly charged you for the
brakes?

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 08:28:20 -0800 (PST)
From: John Hoffer yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service?

Keith-

I agree with the other fellas; go over the statement
in fine detail and find out what the real cost was.
Check for labor time and parts for the brake work (did
you notice them sticking, or did they "tell" you they
were?), there shouldn't be any cost for either
(warranty).

Which dealer pulled this number on you? I've used a
couple ones here in HOU, if you're near the city I may
recommend mine.

JohnH - Houston, TX



- --- Keith rocketmail.com> wrote:
> Experts, did I get ripped off, or is $450 normal for
> the 30,000 mile
> service to a 99 F-150 4x4 5.4 Auto Lariat in SE
> Texas?
>
> When I questioned the high charge, the Ford service
> guy said that
> 30,000 miles is considered a major service with lots
> of stuff done. As
> far as I can see from the service invoice, all they
> did was change
> fluids and check stuff. They also repaired the rear
> brakes at no charge
> under warranty, as they said they were sticking.
>
> I'm still reeling having paid this much, as the
> regular "every 5000
> mile" service to date has only cost about $60 each
> time!
>
> Thanks in advance! Keith.

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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:22:49 -0600
From: tvsjr sprynet.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Trailer towing mirrors

Does anyone know who OEMs Ford's Trailer Towing Mirrors (the big ones used
on the Super Duties, Excursions, etc.)? I would like to have my convex
mirrors on bottom to be usable- they must have been designed by a
vertically-challenged individual.

Thanks
Terry


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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:30:08 EST
From: Brrojo aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Exhaust in front of rear tire

In a message dated 12/22/99 3:30:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,
owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:

Not a bad deal on your exhaust. What was the recall on the lugnuts for? I
have seen some discussion on this but never saw any specifics. I bought a 97
about six weeks ago and was wondering. A new design? How do I know if I
have the updated pieces?

Thanks .


> Yes this was a technical service bulletin I too had the same issue on my
1997
> F150 Supercab. The exhaust is not routed this way anymore from the factory.
>
> This was called to my attention when I ordered a Catback stainless steel
> exhaust
> system from Gibson.
>
> I persued the issue with my local Ford dealer. I didn't buy it from them
but
> they have great service.
>
> After all was said and done, the service manager agreed to pay for the
> complete
> price of my Catback stainless steel exhaust system from Gibson! This was a
> pleasant surprise. I expected maybe 50%. Of course I didn't get the check
> yet,
> but I have faith.
>
> BTW I did have my lugnuts changed as well.
>

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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:41:05 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)" enter.net>
Subject: FTE 97up - 5.4 and 35's

Has anybody put 35" tires on a SD with
the 5.4 engine?
If so how did it effect performance and
mpg's?

Thanks
Vaughn
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:25:44 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 5.4 and 35's

In a message dated 12/22/99 8:46:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, wolf enter.net
writes:


hope you have 4:10's !

RS
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Date: 12/22/99 8:46:52 PM Eastern Standard Time
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Has anybody put 35" tires on a SD with
the 5.4 engine?
If so how did it effect performance and
mpg's?

Thanks
Vaughn
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:06:39 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: F150 SuperCrew Information

Hi gang,
Go the main page of the web site at
www.ford-trucks.com and click on the SuperCrew item
in the "What's New" table. There's a new series of
articles with an overview, specs and photos.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:17:38 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Exhaust in front of rear tire

Brrojoaol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 12/22/99 3:30:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> owner-97up-list-digestford-trucks.com writes:
>
> Not a bad deal on your exhaust. What was the recall on the lugnuts for? I
> have seen some discussion on this but never saw any specifics. I bought a 97
> about six weeks ago and was wondering. A new design? How do I know if I
> have the updated pieces?
>
> Thanks .

The replacement lug nuts are black and the original ones are gray/silver.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:44:17 -0500
From: daldredepsilon.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Door Lights

I am one of the lucky SD owners who had the light sockets on my XLT doors. I
just had to pop in a couple of light bulbs and "Let there be light".
My question is does anyone have the part # for the clear lenses that are on the
Lariats. I currently have the red lenses which are nice for opening my
door in traffic situations but don't illuminate the area very well. I also am
considering upgrading to the Lariat sun visors. They appear to cover a much
greater area of the windshield. The part # for those would also be greatly
appreciated. Thanks in advance. BTW I spend mucho time at ford-diesel.com
so if there are any general PSD questions I'll do my best to answer them next
week. I only have acces to the web on Mon, Tues, and Wed. My last truck
was a 98 door cracked, piston slapped F150.


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