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From: owner-97up-list-digest  ford-trucks.com (97up-list-digest) To: 97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: 97up-list-digest V2 #343 Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk 97up-list-digest Thursday, December 23 1999 Volume 02 : Number 343 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service? RE: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service? Re: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service? Re: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service? FTE 97up - Trailer towing mirrors FTE 97up - Exhaust in front of rear tire FTE 97up - 5.4 and 35's Re: FTE 97up - 5.4 and 35's FTE 97up - ADMIN: F150 SuperCrew Information Re: FTE 97up - Exhaust in front of rear tire FTE 97up - Door Lights ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 07:16:38 -0800 (PST) From: Keith Subject: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service? Experts, did I get ripped off, or is $450 normal for the 30,000 mile service to a 99 F-150 4x4 5.4 Auto Lariat in SE Texas? When I questioned the high charge, the Ford service guy said that 30,000 miles is considered a major service with lots of stuff done. As far as I can see from the service invoice, all they did was change fluids and check stuff. They also repaired the rear brakes at no charge under warranty, as they said they were sticking. I'm still reeling having paid this much, as the regular "every 5000 mile" service to date has only cost about $60 each time! Thanks in advance! Keith. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:47:10 -0600 From: Schmidt Subject: RE: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service? Did you ask before you had the work done how much it would cost? The warning bells and flashing red lights should have gone off at that point. All you can do now is post a line item invoice to the list, maybe Nathan or someone can respond. My previous experience with the X0,000-mile checkups is that dealers love anything that has a lot of "inspecting" stuff as opposed to "replacing" stuff. (It takes a lot less time to inspect something than to replace it, time=money.) - --ms - -----Original Message----- From: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com [mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Keith Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:17 AM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Subject: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service? Experts, did I get ripped off, or is $450 normal for the 30,000 mile service to a 99 F-150 4x4 5.4 Auto Lariat in SE Texas? When I questioned the high charge, the Ford service guy said that 30,000 miles is considered a major service with lots of stuff done. As far as I can see from the service invoice, all they did was change fluids and check stuff. They also repaired the rear brakes at no charge under warranty, as they said they were sticking. I'm still reeling having paid this much, as the regular "every 5000 mile" service to date has only cost about $60 each time! Thanks in advance! Keith. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:08:43 -0500 From: Jean Marc Chartier Subject: Re: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service? Keith wrote: > Experts, did I get ripped off, or is $450 normal for the 30,000 mile > service to a 99 F-150 4x4 5.4 Auto Lariat in SE Texas? > > When I questioned the high charge, the Ford service guy said that > 30,000 miles is considered a major service with lots of stuff done. As > far as I can see from the service invoice, all they did was change > fluids and check stuff. They also repaired the rear brakes at no charge > under warranty, as they said they were sticking. > > I'm still reeling having paid this much, as the regular "every 5000 > mile" service to date has only cost about $60 each time! > > Thanks in advance! Keith. > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html Keith, Without seeing the bill it is hard to know what you had done. I would personally not pay $450.00 for any routine service. Your bill must list what they did and the hours it took or the parts that they used. Look it over and question the dealer. Maybe they inadvertantly charged you for the brakes? Regards Jean Marc Chartier == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 08:28:20 -0800 (PST) From: John Hoffer Subject: Re: FTE 97up - $450 for the 30 000 mile service? Keith- I agree with the other fellas; go over the statement in fine detail and find out what the real cost was. Check for labor time and parts for the brake work (did you notice them sticking, or did they "tell" you they were?), there shouldn't be any cost for either (warranty). Which dealer pulled this number on you? I've used a couple ones here in HOU, if you're near the city I may recommend mine. JohnH - Houston, TX - --- Keith > Experts, did I get ripped off, or is $450 normal for > the 30,000 mile > service to a 99 F-150 4x4 5.4 Auto Lariat in SE > Texas? > > When I questioned the high charge, the Ford service > guy said that > 30,000 miles is considered a major service with lots > of stuff done. As > far as I can see from the service invoice, all they > did was change > fluids and check stuff. They also repaired the rear > brakes at no charge > under warranty, as they said they were sticking. > > I'm still reeling having paid this much, as the > regular "every 5000 > mile" service to date has only cost about $60 each > time! > > Thanks in advance! Keith. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:22:49 -0600 From: tvsjr sprynet.com Subject: FTE 97up - Trailer towing mirrors Does anyone know who OEMs Ford's Trailer Towing Mirrors (the big ones used on the Super Duties, Excursions, etc.)? I would like to have my convex mirrors on bottom to be usable- they must have been designed by a vertically-challenged individual. Thanks Terry == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:30:08 EST From: Brrojo aol.com Subject: FTE 97up - Exhaust in front of rear tire In a message dated 12/22/99 3:30:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes: Not a bad deal on your exhaust. What was the recall on the lugnuts for? I have seen some discussion on this but never saw any specifics. I bought a 97 about six weeks ago and was wondering. A new design? How do I know if I have the updated pieces? Thanks . > Yes this was a technical service bulletin I too had the same issue on my 1997 > F150 Supercab. The exhaust is not routed this way anymore from the factory. > > This was called to my attention when I ordered a Catback stainless steel > exhaust > system from Gibson. > > I persued the issue with my local Ford dealer. I didn't buy it from them but > they have great service. > > After all was said and done, the service manager agreed to pay for the > complete > price of my Catback stainless steel exhaust system from Gibson! This was a > pleasant surprise. I expected maybe 50%. Of course I didn't get the check > yet, > but I have faith. > > BTW I did have my lugnuts changed as well. > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:41:05 4 From: "Vaughn (VDB)" Subject: FTE 97up - 5.4 and 35's Has anybody put 35" tires on a SD with the 5.4 engine? If so how did it effect performance and mpg's? Thanks Vaughn == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:25:44 EST From: RSnovi aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 5.4 and 35's In a message dated 12/22/99 8:46:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, wolf enter.net writes: hope you have 4:10's ! RS << Subj: FTE 97up - 5.4 and 35's Date: 12/22/99 8:46:52 PM Eastern Standard Time From: wolf enter.net (Vaughn (VDB))Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.comReply-to: ford-trucks.com">97up-list ford-trucks.com To: 97up-list ford-trucks.comHas anybody put 35" tires on a SD with the 5.4 engine? If so how did it effect performance and mpg's? Thanks Vaughn == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.34]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:46:52 -0500 Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [192.41.63.203]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:46:45 -0500 Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id UAA12883; Wed,22 Dec 1999 20:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.enter.net (root smtp.enter.net [63.65.0.16]) byford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id UAA12877; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:42:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from cree (usrx2P-2-35.enter.net [207.18.9.45]) by smtp.enter.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA04993 for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:42:43 -0500 (EST)Message-Id: <199912230142.UAA04993 smtp.enter.net>Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Vaughn (VDB)" Organization: Enter.Net To: 97up-list ford-trucks.comDate: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:41:05 4 Subject: FTE 97up - 5.4 and 35's X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.comPrecedence: bulk Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com>> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:06:39 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: F150 SuperCrew Information Hi gang, Go the main page of the web site at www.ford-trucks.com and click on the SuperCrew item in the "What's New" table. There's a new series of articles with an overview, specs and photos. Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:17:38 -0500 From: Jean Marc Chartier Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Exhaust in front of rear tire Brrojo aol.com wrote:> In a message dated 12/22/99 3:30:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, > owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:> > Not a bad deal on your exhaust. What was the recall on the lugnuts for? I > have seen some discussion on this but never saw any specifics. I bought a 97 > about six weeks ago and was wondering. A new design? How do I know if I > have the updated pieces? > > Thanks . The replacement lug nuts are black and the original ones are gray/silver. Regards Jean Marc Chartier == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:44:17 -0500 From: daldred epsilon.comSubject: FTE 97up - Door Lights I am one of the lucky SD owners who had the light sockets on my XLT doors. I just had to pop in a couple of light bulbs and "Let there be light". My question is does anyone have the part # for the clear lenses that are on the Lariats. I currently have the red lenses which are nice for opening my door in traffic situations but don't illuminate the area very well. I also am considering upgrading to the Lariat sun visors. They appear to cover a much greater area of the windshield. The part # for those would also be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. BTW I spend mucho time at ford-diesel.  comso if there are any general PSD questions I'll do my best to answer them next week. I only have acces to the web on Mon, Tues, and Wed. My last truck was a 98 door cracked, piston slapped F150. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ End of 97up-list-digest V2 #343 ******************************* +------ Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer Trucks and Vans ------+ | Send posts to 97up-list ford-trucks.com, || List removal information is on the web site. | +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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