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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 133

Today's Topics:

Re: 1962 F350 disc brake conversion [Don Grossman ]
Re: current loop on ammeter ["George Shepherd"
quit [mturner ais.net ]
Re: 460 engine ["George Shepherd"
Re: 460 engine [canzus seanet.com ]
Current loop on ammeter [rmeier connect.net (Roger Meier) ]
Re: 1962 F350 disc brake conversion ["JAMES MERLO"
Re: Seat belt problem [HYDROSMITH aol.com ]
Re: catalog [HYDROSMITH aol.com ]
Re: current loop on ammeter [sdelanty sonic.net ]
Question for the Ford guru's [Paul ]
Dura Spark II, continued ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: 4X4 PRICE ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: current loop on ammeter [MadPoodle aol.com ]
Re: Dura Spark II [MadPoodle aol.com ]
Re: Different Gague Question ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Compression, was Ok here's my th ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Bronco 3/4 ton axle conversion ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
1960 PANEL/DELIVERY ["Harley, Gerald H"
Re: Dura Spark II ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Help [Bill Adams
Re: Bronco 3/4 ton axle conversion [John Macnamara ]
Re: current loop on ammeter ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:07:52 -0700
From: Don Grossman
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JAMES MERLO wrote:
>
> I am calling upon the wisdom of all of you Ford truck masters.
>
> I have a 1962 F350. I would like to put on front disc brakes (eventually
> 4
> wheel discs, but that is a fantasy for now). I want to keep full 1 ton
> braking capability. This is the last of the vintage of non independent
> front suspension (at least until the recent super duty trucks).
>
> Any and all information on doing this conversion would be appreciated. I
> am thinking that I will at least need to replace the kingpin, spindle,
> master cylinder, and add a proportioning valve.
>
> Step by step instruction would be great, but I would be thrilled by just
> knowing what parts to hunt for that could make this a reality- make and
> model for parts I could use or a supplier who can supply some unique
> conversion piece
>
> Ideas on pitfalls and any other information you could provide I would also
> greet with many thanks.
>
> Jim

The brake parts here will be easy. The hard part is the Kingpin. What
we are going to need is some specs for the 62 and something from76-79.
Anyone have a good mic. set?
--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44

Phase 172: rebuild front suspension

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:13:18 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
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No wonder no ford amp meter I ever saw worked. Ford engineers dont under
stand physics. For some reason they thought running a wire through the loop
would make it work, silly them. :-))

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> From: JAMES MERLO
> To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> Subject: current loop on ammeter
> Date: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 7:02 PM
>
> someone wrote about the loop on the ammeter.
>
> A reply was given that if a current carrying wire was routed through
> this/near this loop, that current would be induced into the loop and
> therefore the ammeter would register the current.
>
> This concept would work if the current was AC, but with the current being
> DC, it doesn't work.
>
> I would agree with the other comment that the ammeter is wired in series
> between the generator (or rectified alternator output).
>
> If anyone is interested, the induced current in the close by wire is a
> result of field strength changes caused by the current fluctuations.
This
> is the concept that clamp on ammeters work on.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:17:15 -0500
From: mturner ais.net
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how do I stop receiving this email? I do enjoy it, its just too much
stuff.

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:26:02 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
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If they dont, you can take .020 off of a set of .060 or buy a set of blanks
and cut you own like the big boys do.

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> From: Don Grossman
> To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> Subject: Re: 460 engine
> Date: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 9:53 PM
>
> Kevin Kemmerer wrote:
> >
> > well, if .030 over then it has only one more life left (.060 over)
after this one! generally a 71 is good, deck height changed over the
years, but that really doesn't change much except for the guys who stroke
the thing to 512 or more cubes. the heads are more important, 68 to 70 is
really good, 71- 73?, good, 74 on is ok. many parts don't interchange
between the 68-69 blocks and later blocks especially on the front of the
block.
> >
> > sleddog
>
> Hey sleddog, I think they still make a .040 over piston to make it a
> 468 :-]
>
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon pacific.net
>
>
> 63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44
>
> Phase 172: rebuild front suspension
>
>
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:23:52 -0700
From: canzus seanet.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 460 engine
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At 11:57 PM 7/29/97 +0000, you wrote:
>
>> From: John MacNamara
>
>
>> reedg ns2.cetlink.net wrote:
>> >
>> > I getting a 460 engine tonight. I don't know anything about it but
>> > the engine number is dive-6015-A2B. Does this mean anything?
>> >
>
>>
>> 1971 block!
>>
>> John
>>
>Is a '71 block good or bad?
>One of the people on my route gave it to me. He said it had been
>machined .30 over. His roommate left it and said to spray it with
>oil. The guy has been oiling it for the last five years. He even took
>it with him when he moved. But his new wife told him to get rid of
>it.(Been there).
>

It's a good one, and the seller should explain these facts
of life to his new bride: Men collect useful stuff, Women
collect useless stuff. This is not My opinion, it's my
wifes.....

Steve & Rockette
Lifes a Beach...

Steve & Rockette Leitch
Lifes a Beach...

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:51:10 -0800
From: rmeier connect.net (Roger Meier)
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
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For all you people who are jumping up and down on stupid engineers that "don''t understand physics", you are partly right, someone doesn't understand physics. The loop on the back of some of the old ammeters is just to hold the wire in the proper position. The loop carries no current, only the wire does. The current through the wire sets up a magnetic field (proportional to the current flowing through it) that is sensed by a small magnet that has the pointer attached to it. The magnet is deflected due to the dc current in the wire.
Regards,
Roger Meier

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:47:18 -0500
From: "JAMES MERLO"
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Don,
I read your response, but I missed your point. Are you saying that the
spindle is a direct replacement as far as attaching the rest of the
steering, bearing usage for the spindle, etc. and that the only issue is
the kingpin length or diameter?

As a thought if it is "only" the kingpin diameter solution would be to
modify the "hole size in the spindle to match the 1962-that is to say if
the new spindle hole is too small, bore to match 62 spindle hole size, if
too big, push in a new bronze bushing piece and bore to match 62 spindle
size.

Don, please respond so we can walk through this together. I haven't found
anybody else with this vintage truck (62-63) that wasn't a 1/2 ton. I have
to check my ford parts book to see if we use the same spindle (f250 and
f350).

By the way I see you have a t98 transmission behind a 390. Is this the
same as the T98A (this is what is in my truck). It would be great to be
able to take out my 292 and put in a 390 and not have to get a new
transmission- what is the scoop on putting the T98A behind the 390?

If I can share anything let me know.

stay in touch

Jim



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> From: Don Grossman
> To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> Subject: Re: 1962 F350 disc brake conversion
> Date: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 10:07 PM
>
> JAMES MERLO wrote:
> >
> > I am calling upon the wisdom of all of you Ford truck masters.
> >
> > I have a 1962 F350. I would like to put on front disc brakes
(eventually
> > 4
> > wheel discs, but that is a fantasy for now). I want to keep full 1
ton
> > braking capability. This is the last of the vintage of non
independent
> > front suspension (at least until the recent super duty trucks).
> >
> > Any and all information on doing this conversion would be appreciated.
I
> > am thinking that I will at least need to replace the kingpin, spindle,
> > master cylinder, and add a proportioning valve.
> >
> > Step by step instruction would be great, but I would be thrilled by
just
> > knowing what parts to hunt for that could make this a reality- make
and
> > model for parts I could use or a supplier who can supply some unique
> > conversion piece
> >
> > Ideas on pitfalls and any other information you could provide I would
also
> > greet with many thanks.
> >
> > Jim
>
> The brake parts here will be easy. The hard part is the Kingpin. What
> we are going to need is some specs for the 62 and something from76-79.
> Anyone have a good mic. set?
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon pacific.net
>
>
> 63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44
>
> Phase 172: rebuild front suspension
>
>
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:54:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: HYDROSMITH aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Seat belt problem
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you can pick up extentions at a dearlership

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:06:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: HYDROSMITH aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: catalog
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I would also be interested in recieving a catalog

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:37:06 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: current loop on ammeter
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>someone wrote about the loop on the ammeter.
>
>A reply was given that if a current carrying wire was routed through
>this/near this loop, that current would be induced into the loop and
>therefore the ammeter would register the current.
>
>This concept would work if the current was AC, but with the current being
>DC, it doesn't work.

Actually, they do work. It doesn't work by inducing a current in the loop,
it just creates a DC magnetic field thet moves a *magnetic* pointer.
(just moves a permanent magnet with an electromagnet...)
They are VERY low tech, and acuracy is about +/- 50%.
I've never seen one used in automotive before, but old industrial equipment
used them plenty.

>I would agree with the other comment that the ammeter is wired in series
>between the generator (or rectified alternator output).

Yeah, that's traditional. It needs to be where it can read both charge
current from the generator and discharge currents to the vehicle loads.

>If anyone is interested, the induced current in the close by wire is a
>result of field strength changes caused by the current fluctuations. This
>is the concept that clamp on ammeters work on.

Yeah, "Current transformer" type gauges only work on AC and are the basis for
most AC clamp on ammeters.

Of course You can also use a Hall effect sensor for DC current clamp ons,
but these are just simple magnetic DC gauges. VERY primitive, but functional
for low accuracy auto use... (Yes it charges/no it doesn't)
They are about 10% more accurate than an idiot light...

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty

1971 F100 shortbox, FE390, T-18 4-speed

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:18:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul
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I've got my eye on a f250 for sale but I'm not up to speed on Ford
knowledge. Could I get some opinions? Its a 1975 vintage with 390 and 4
speed, two wheel drive, crew cab with a short bed. I don't plan to much
towing with it, just haul the family and such. Power steering, power
brakes, a/c(not a factory installed unit, most of the guts are in the cab
and seems to be about the same age as the truck). How reliable is the 390
engine design? I assume parts are still fairly plentiful and cheap. Any
downfalls of the FE engine? They look fairly robust but why were the FE's
replaced by the 460? Any advantage of the T-18 vs New Process 4 speeds that
were installed in that year? I've read that there are some early power
steering units to stay away from and that Ford used them through the 1975
model years. How do I identify the junk P/S from the good?
What changes did Ford make to their trucks that make the 1977
through 1979 model years more desirable that the earlier 70's models lacked?
What does the term "highboy" mean and does it have anything to do with the
crew cab? I've seen it mentioned in a few of the for sale ads. I have
always liked the style of the 70's Ford trucks and they seem to be built
well also. The truck will be in the family for a while and any advice on
the best years and equipment will be useful.

Thanks---soon to be Ford truck owner.

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:26:20 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
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Well, I've had a whole night to think about this and in spite of what
appears to be Strep Throat my brain still functions but my memory
allowd me to forget the Peterson's manual again, sorry.

The real bottom line for anyone trying to convert from points to Dura
Spark II is to buy parts from the same vehicle so they match. Get
the distributor, coil, module and the part of the harnes which goes
along the firewall and across the top of the engine to the
distributor with the plugs in it including the coil cap or slipon
dodad which has the red and green wires in it. Also clip off the
plug for the white and red wires as well so you will have a pig tail
to attach to.

To make the switch, replace the distributor and coil and mount the
module on the inside fender where it can get some air as it generates
some heat and it must be solidly grounded.

Now plug the distributor into the harness plug and to the module,
attach the green module wire to the green harness wire if you managed
to get it intact, other wise attach it to the dist side of the coil
in some manner. Find the start terminal of the ignition switch using
multimeter or test light etc. and attach the white wire to that in
some manner (remember this may need to be switched later). Find the
ballast resistor and the wire leading from it to the coil and attach
the red wire somewhere in the circuit between the coil and resistor
again remembering that the white and red wires may need to be
switched.

This should be it. Try to start the engine and if it starts but
won't stay running, switch the red and white wires at the pig tail
(plug near module) and try it again. If it still doesn't operate
correctly you need another Guru or one of the components is damaged.

If anyone out there see's anything wrong with this picture I would
sincerely appreciate it if you would point it out as I'm going from
memory to some extent here.

-- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:38:33 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 4X4 PRICE
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> From: BigDogF250 aol.com
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:23:56 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: 4X4 PRICE

> I am looking at a 72 F series extended cab pickup, it is four wheel
> drive, lifted 6" with 2" body lift, it is powered by a mild 460 and
> has a few accesories such as roll bar and aftermarket bumpers. I was

Matt, I've looked at quite a few trucks lately and the prices seem to
hover around $1500 for 4x4 vintage iron in poor to fair condition
simply because they are popular. I've seen some in pretty good
condition for around that figure as well. Kelley's only goes back to
77 so I can't look it up but my guess is you wouldn't be cheated at
$1500 if the body is sound. I paid $3000 for my 78 in, what I
considered excellent condition, knowing I would have to spend at
least another $1000 for mechanical stuff to get it up to my speed not
counting fun stuff. That was blue book and I bought it at a dealer
so it was probably $500-$1000 more than I needed to pay if I had
looked around a bit more but I have a fairly tight motor, usable
power train and relatively nice body metal so I'm happy with it so
far.

Take a look at this site and compare some prices:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.traderonline.com/cgi-bin/auto/truck/pick-up_search

It's really neat and eye opening :-)

-- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:59:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: MadPoodle aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: current loop on ammeter
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In a message dated 7/30/97 21:39:08, you wrote:

>This concept would work if the current was AC, but with the current being
>DC, it doesn't work.

I missed the original thread, but I must say that my clamp on DC amp meter in
my toolbox belies that comment. Nothing special, just a Snap On meter right
out o the catalog..

Scott

No old truck, but looking... Got to do something with that 429 in the attic!

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:59:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: MadPoodle aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Dura Spark II
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The purpose of the extra volts being sent to the coil / points was to aid
starting. Hotter spark, easier start.
Points last longer when they run on 6 - 8 volts, so after initial start, they
drop voltage....

Scott

No old truck, but looking... Got to do something with that 429 in the attic!

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:14:16 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
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> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:23:14 -0600 (MDT)
> From: kel-cel ccinet.ab.ca (kel-cel )
> Subject: Re: Different Gague Question

> bypassed the gauge. This may have been done because the ammmeter is
> "open", and this makes the charging system inoperative.
>
> Kelly.

Kelly, the older style ammeters used an induction loop to operate
the gauge. The primary wire goes through it to "induce" current into
the coil.

-- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:18:18 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Compression, was Ok here's my theroy....
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> From: "JAMES MERLO"
> Subject: Re: Compression, was Ok here's my theroy....
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:42:44 -0500

> what is the NV 6 transmission? what is it used on ? any and all
> info would be appreciated.
>
> Jim

Jim, I don't have the model number handy but it's brand new and
designed for the new Cummins diesel series. It's a 6 speed over
drive with 5.62 or so granny and 600# input torque rating. I'll try
to find the article again.

-- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:55:27 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Bronco 3/4 ton axle conversion
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> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:50:06 -0700
> From: Don Grossman
> Subject: Re: Bronco 3/4 ton axle conversion

> > Does anyone know if they used the same calipers thoughout the 70's
> > for F250's?
>
> Ford used the same dual piston calipers on the 4x4 and 2x4. They
> are fairly common and are about $80 a piece rebuilt including pads

What the heck is a dual piston caliper???? I've never seen one on
any of my trucks. They all use the same cast iron, single piston,
wedge retained dodad as far as I can remember??? Is this just for the
f-250's and up? My 73 1 ton had drum brakes so I can't use it as an
example, shucks???


-- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:04:00 -0400
From: "Harley, Gerald H"
To: "'ford'"
Subject: 1960 PANEL/DELIVERY
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I have a line on a 1960 Ford F100 panel/delivery truck. I very much
want to purchase it, but know nothing about the 1960 Fords. Any and all
comments will be appreciated.
Jerry my Email is Gerald.H.Harley lmco.com

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:18:08 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Dura Spark II
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> From: MadPoodle aol.com
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:59:06 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: Dura Spark II

> The purpose of the extra volts being sent to the coil / points was
> to aid starting. Hotter spark, easier start. Points last longer when
> they run on 6 - 8 volts, so after initial start, they drop
> voltage....

Dura Spark II does the same thing, don't know why exactly but it
does. Maybe to reduce heat build up in the coil? Don't know.

-- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:47:50 -0700
From: Bill Adams
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Help
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Casey wrote:
>
> Hello I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could locate the VIN
> plate on a Ford F100 Custom Cab. Now the reason for this question is that
> it would possibly help me identify what year the truck is I am thinking it
> is a 1961 because that is what the taillamp lense says but I am not sure.
> Also I think that this trucks engine is different from the original is
> there any way I can prove this. Any help that can be given will be greatly
> appreciated.
> Thanks
> P.S. Mr. FoMoCo sent me to this site.
>
The VIN on MY (the daughter says it's hers) 61 F-100 is located in on
the inside of the Glove box. A dumb place to put it but talk to Henry
not me.

L8tre
Bill
66 F-100 long bed Custom Cab, 352 V8 and 4 speed granny
61 Short bed
>
>
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:59:09 -0700
From: John Macnamara
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Bronco 3/4 ton axle conversion
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Gary, 78 BBB wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:50:06 -0700
> > From: Don Grossman
> > Subject: Re: Bronco 3/4 ton axle conversion
>
> > > Does anyone know if they used the same calipers thoughout the 70's
> > > for F250's?
> >
> > Ford used the same dual piston calipers on the 4x4 and 2x4. They
> > are fairly common and are about $80 a piece rebuilt including pads
>
> What the heck is a dual piston caliper???? I've never seen one on
> any of my trucks. They all use the same cast iron, single piston,
> wedge retained dodad as far as I can remember??? Is this just for the
> f-250's and up? My 73 1 ton had drum brakes so I can't use it as an
> example, shucks???
>
> -- Gary Peters --
>
> (Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
> (Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
> (Daughter's)92 Tempo
> (Daughter's)92 T-Bird
> (Wife's)94 T-Bird
> (Son's)90 F-150, I6
> (Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
> All mine to work on, maintain etc..
>
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Gary: My 78 F250 4X4 has dual piston front calipers. The truck is
rated at 8500 GVW, so if this helps the discussion.

John

78 F250 4X4 Supercab
67 GT500
66 427 Corvette

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:05:29 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
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Subject: Re: current loop on ammeter
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> From: "JAMES MERLO"....


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