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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 132

Today's Topics:

Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [William Sabers
Re: Different Gague Question ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Re: Different Gague Question, P.S. ["Gary, 78 BBB" ]
Bronco 3/4 ton axle conversion ["Mike Masse"
Re: Bronco 3/4 ton axle conversion ["Rodney S. Richeson"
4X4 PRICE [BigDogF250 aol.com ]
Re: Bronco 3/4 ton axle conversion - [Glen Pace ]
Re: 4X4 PRICE [Kevin Lindstedt
Digest 131-Different Gauge Question [Ed ]
Re: Bronco 3/4 ton axle conversion - [Don Grossman ]
Re: Different Gague Question [kel-cel ccinet.ab.ca (kel-cel ) ]
Re; Sending Unit ["The Zahn's"
Re: 4X4 PRICE [daffin satcom.whit.org (Mike ) ]
Re: Compression, was Ok here's my th ["JAMES MERLO"
1962 F350 disc brake conversion ["JAMES MERLO"
current loop on ammeter ["JAMES MERLO"
Re: 4X4 PRICE [Ken Payne ]
New FAQ on line [Ken Payne ]
Re: Bronco 3/4 ton axle conversion [Don Grossman ]
Re: 460 engine [Don Grossman ]
Re: 4X4 PRICE [Don Grossman ]

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:34:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: William Sabers
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I will take one...
How do I sign up?
Wsabers
940 E. Lewis
Vermillion SD


On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Mac wrote:

> I'd love one of those catalogs if they cover 73-79 trucks. And Ken it
> does sound like a great idea!!
> Sorry for the slow response I've been out of town
>
> Malcolm O'Blenis
> 1979 F-150 351W with Rhino Performance dual exhaust.
> (Had to tell you'all about my new exhaust, sounds very mean.)
>
>
> Ken Payne wrote:
>
> > Yesterday I received an email from one of the largest Ford antique
> > parts companies. They would like to distribute their catalog, free
> > of charge, to anyone on our list who is interested.
>
> > Express your opinions either on the list or email me privately
> > (kpayne mindspring.com), whichever you feel most comfortable with.
> >
> > -Ken
> > List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:41:31 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
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> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 08:28:20 -0700
> From: Leon Atkinson
> Subject: Re: Different Gague Question

> >question is brief--how the hell to you hook up the ammeter? This
> >is on a 50 F1--there are no terminals back there, just a loop.

I've seen this before but can't tell you authoratatively how it goes
but, as was stated before, the coil has current induced into it when
current flows through any wire it surrounds which leads a thinking
man to consider the #10 primary (accessorie) wire to the ignition
switch as the most likely source. All of the gauges come off ot this
wire anyway as well as most of the other loads on the electrical
system. Since it's DC current, It's also directional so if it
doesn't read correctly, reverse the wire's path through the coil.

-- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:51:42 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
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> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 08:28:20 -0700
> From: Leon Atkinson
> Subject: Re: Different Gague Question

> >question is brief--how the hell to you hook up the ammeter? This
> >is on a 50 F1--there are no terminals back there, just a loop.

Excuse my last post on this. You should use the red (HOT) primary
wire from the battery to the ignition switch for this as this will
also pickup the ignition system load. Sorry :-)

-- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 12:58:38 CST
From: "Mike Masse"
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Subject: Bronco 3/4 ton axle conversion
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I own a 78 Bronco and I have aquired all of the parts I need to
convert to a dana 60 rear, and correspoding 8 bolt for the front,
except for wheels and consumables like pads & shoes. I know the
rear is off of a '77 F250, but the front I'm not too sure about. It's
definately before '77, because the frame rails were a couple inches
closer together then the '77 - '79's. It had a weird looking power
steering actuator. It just had hydraulic hoses running to it, and a
ram that moved in and out of it. Does anyone know when ford used
these?. Does anyone know if they used the same calipers thoughout the
70's for F250's? The calipers are of the dual piston type, and I need
to know what to ask for to get new pads.

Also, will 15" wheels fit on these? If so are 15" 8 bolt wheels easy
to find? Everything I've seen so far is 16.5". One more thing... Is
there a difference between the Ford & Ch**Y 8 bolt patterns?
Mike Masse
Dept of Medicine
H6/289
265-8513
mrm medicine.wisc.edu
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/~mrm

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:14:40 +0000
From: "Rodney S. Richeson"
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Mike Masse wrote:
>
> I own a 78 Bronco and I have aquired all of the parts I need to
> convert to a dana 60 rear, and correspoding 8 bolt for the front,
> except for wheels and consumables like pads & shoes. I know the
> rear is off of a '77 F250, but the front I'm not too sure about. It's
> definately before '77, because the frame rails were a couple inches
> closer together then the '77 - '79's. It had a weird looking power
> steering actuator. It just had hydraulic hoses running to it, and a
> ram that moved in and out of it. Does anyone know when ford used
> these?. Does anyone know if they used the same calipers thoughout the
> 70's for F250's? The calipers are of the dual piston type, and I need
> to know what to ask for to get new pads.
>
> Also, will 15" wheels fit on these? If so are 15" 8 bolt wheels easy
> to find? Everything I've seen so far is 16.5". One more thing... Is
> there a difference between the Ford & Ch**Y 8 bolt patterns?
> Mike Masse
> Dept of Medicine
> H6/289
> 265-8513
> mrm medicine.wisc.edu
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/~mrm
>
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There was a Ford built power steering that I have heard was junk and
stay away from it. Mine has a Saginaw box, it's a 77. Also when I
bought new wheels I tried to fit 15 inchers and no way. I look at my
aluminum 16.5" and there is barely enough clearance for them. Ford made
use of the space to fit very large heavy duty calipers..

Rod
77.5 F-250
Big Block Powered

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:23:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: BigDogF250 aol.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: 4X4 PRICE
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I am looking at a 72 F series extended cab pickup, it is four wheel drive,
lifted 6" with 2" body lift, it is powered by a mild 460 and has a few
accesories such as roll bar and aftermarket bumpers. I was wondering what
would the price for a truck of this nature be. The truck is in good shape,
been garaged, and has good tires. If you have any info on the price please
respond.
Matt
92 F250 4x4 5.8L

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:27:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Glen Pace
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
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Be carefull of the front end early fronts were forward rotation
gears I don't know if they will work with the 77 -79 parts.
Maybe someone could shed some more light on the details.
Glen

77 F-250 4x4
96 F-350 4x4

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:57:01 +0900
From: Kevin Lindstedt
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At 05:23 PM 7/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I am looking at a 72 F series extended cab pickup, it is four wheel drive,
>lifted 6" with 2" body lift, it is powered by a mild 460 and has a few
>accesories such as roll bar and aftermarket bumpers. I was wondering what
>would the price for a truck of this nature be. The truck is in good shape,
>been garaged, and has good tires. If you have any info on the price please
>respond.
> Matt
> 92 F250 4x4 5.8L

If I'm not mistaken, Ford didn't offer an extended cab until the 1975 model
year. May have been '73 or '74, but not '72. Now if you actually talking
"crew cab" you could be right. I don't know much about those.

Kevin
1978 F150 Ranger Lariat

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:35:43 -0700
From: Ed
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The wire that goes thru the loop is the main feed from the
generator/regulator to the + terminal of the battery. If you run the
wire in the wrong direction the guage will read the wrong way. I
converted one to 12v neg.ground and the gauge still shows discharge when
it's charging. (I haven't gotten around to rewiring it.

This wire is the primary cause of underdash fires, it carries the full
load of the charging system. Any short or overload and it can go up in
smoke. I notice most modern vehicles either use a signal light or a
voltmeter instead to avoid the problem.

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:49:52 -0700
From: Don Grossman
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Glen Pace wrote:
>
> Be carefull of the front end early fronts were forward rotation
> gears I don't know if they will work with the 77 -79 parts.
> Maybe someone could shed some more light on the details.
> Glen
>
> 77 F-250 4x4
> 96 F-350 4x4
>

Some one catch me up here. I seem to have missed part one? What year
Bronco are we converting here?
--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

The scene;

Bunch of NASA guys looking at TV monitor.

"Look, A ROCK!"


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:23:14 -0600 (MDT)
From: kel-cel ccinet.ab.ca (kel-cel )
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
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Most ammeters are in series between the alternator (generator)
and the rest of the vehicle. That way, it is able to measure total
current draw to the vehicle. Current must be measured in series.
As for the loop, it sounds like someone in the vehicle's past
has bypassed the gauge. This may have been done because
the ammmeter is "open", and this makes the charging system
inoperative.

Kelly.


The second
>question is brief--how the hell to you hook up the ammeter? This is on a
>50 F1--there are no terminals back there, just a loop. Very strange. Any
>help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>~Dan

>Check out my F1 page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.GeoCities.com/MotorCity/3623
>
>
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:39:51 -0700
From: "The Zahn's"
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Bill,
I just got my sale catalogue from Obsolete Ford Parts, Inc. in Oklahoma.
They have the Fuel Tank Sending Unit for 1948-55 F1 for 6 volt or 12
volt at $44.99 each. on sale. Usually 49.95. Call them at 800 654-3247
or e-mail orders at orders ford-obsolete.com.
Hope this helps.
FredZ

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:53:47 -0600
From: daffin satcom.whit.org (Mike )
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>At 05:23 PM 7/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>I am looking at a 72 F series extended cab pickup, it is four wheel drive,
>>lifted 6" with 2" body lift, it is powered by a mild 460 and has a few
>>accesories such as roll bar and aftermarket bumpers. I was wondering what
>>would the price for a truck of this nature be. The truck is in good shape,
>>been garaged, and has good tires. If you have any info on the price please
>>respond.
>> Matt
>> 92 F250 4x4 5.8L
>
Kevin:

I have a 74 super cab but it had a 360 in it when delivered and was
replaced with a 351C and has a c6 tranny..


>If I'm not mistaken, Ford didn't offer an extended cab until the 1975 model
>year. May have been '73 or '74, but not '72. Now if you actually talking
>"crew cab" you could be right. I don't know much about those.
>
>Kevin
>1978 F150 Ranger Lariat
>
>
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:42:44 -0500
From: "JAMES MERLO"
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what is the NV 6 transmission? what is it used on ? any and all info would
be appreciated.

Jim

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From: Randy Collins
To: 'fordtrucks lofcom.com'
Subject: RE: Compression, was Ok here's my theroy....
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 2:45 AM

From: Gary, 78 BBB [SMTP:gpeters3 ford.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 1997 5:15 AM

> currently i am running a 460 with a hair over 9:1, about 280 deg.
> adv. dur., 536 lift, with stock heads mildly ported on the exhaust
> side ( just grinding out the bug lump should give about 25 hp if
> done poorly) stock valves sizes. power? all you'd want from 3000 to

Did you mean "Properly"? I've read articles which stated that the
humps are the single most restrictive part of the stock heads and the
exhaust, because of this is the only part that really needs much
attention except for possibly using larger intake valves etc..

I'm sure my engine doen't put out anywhere near 500 hp and it's still
scary but it looks like it doesn't take much tweaking to get that
with the 460 so I guess I'll be looking into the new NV 6 speed with
600# input torque rating :-)

I really only regret two things about my first attempt:
I didn't have the crank ground and replace the front seal sleeve.
I couldn't find a forged flat top piston for it back then.

My next one should be really fun since all the parts are out there
now, I just wish there were more roller cam options for low rpm
torque. There are tons for the 351M starting at 1500 rpm but only a
few starting at 2500 rpm for the 460 that I've found so far. Most
roller cams are made for hot rods I guess.

I didn't write the statement about the exaust port. But I do believe that
the author meant to say "poorly". I have read many articles on the 460
heads and the exhaust humps. All of them agree that even if you do a lousy
job removing the humps you will gain at least 25HP. Imagine what a nice
port job will do?


Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford F250 4WD Supercab "Muscle Truck"
Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
460 C-6




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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:50:09 -0500
From: "JAMES MERLO"
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I am calling upon the wisdom of all of you Ford truck masters.

I have a 1962 F350. I would like to put on front disc brakes (eventually
4
wheel discs, but that is a fantasy for now). I want to keep full 1 ton
braking capability. This is the last of the vintage of non independent
front suspension (at least until the recent super duty trucks).

Any and all information on doing this conversion would be appreciated. I
am thinking that I will at least need to replace the kingpin, spindle,
master cylinder, and add a proportioning valve.

Step by step instruction would be great, but I would be thrilled by just
knowing what parts to hunt for that could make this a reality- make and
model for parts I could use or a supplier who can supply some unique
conversion piece

Ideas on pitfalls and any other information you could provide I would also
greet with many thanks.

Jim

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:02:40 -0500
From: "JAMES MERLO"
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someone wrote about the loop on the ammeter.

A reply was given that if a current carrying wire was routed through
this/near this loop, that current would be induced into the loop and
therefore the ammeter would register the current.

This concept would work if the current was AC, but with the current being
DC, it doesn't work.

I would agree with the other comment that the ammeter is wired in series
between the generator (or rectified alternator output).

If anyone is interested, the induced current in the close by wire is a
result of field strength changes caused by the current fluctuations. This
is the concept that clamp on ammeters work on.

Jim

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:24:29 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
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At 05:23 PM 7/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I am looking at a 72 F series extended cab pickup, it is four wheel drive,
>lifted 6" with 2" body lift, it is powered by a mild 460 and has a few
>accesories such as roll bar and aftermarket bumpers. I was wondering what
>would the price for a truck of this nature be. The truck is in good shape,
>been garaged, and has good tires. If you have any info on the price please
>respond.
> Matt
> 92 F250 4x4 5.8L

I've seen an F series in good condition go from $1800-$3500, depending
on the truck, accessories, etc. Its really hard to nail down a price
as they differ regionally. The best bet is www.edmunds.com, which
may have the data you need.

-Ken
List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8
Our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:12:56 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: New FAQ on line
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The newly expanded FAQ is now on the web site. It
answers 95% of the daily questions I get.

-Ken
List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8
Our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com
(subscribe/unsubscribe forms on the web site)
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:50:06 -0700
From: Don Grossman
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
CC: mrm medicine.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: Bronco 3/4 ton axle conversion
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Mike Masse wrote:
>
> I own a 78 Bronco and I have aquired all of the parts I need to
> convert to a dana 60 rear, and correspoding 8 bolt for the front,
> except for wheels and consumables like pads & shoes. I know the
> rear is off of a '77 F250, but the front I'm not too sure about. It's
> definately before '77, because the frame rails were a couple inches
> closer together then the '77 - '79's. It had a weird looking power
> steering actuator. It just had hydraulic hoses running to it, and a
> ram that moved in and out of it. Does anyone know when ford used
> these?.

Mike you have stumbled into my area.

First area of note: YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR MASTER CYLINDER.

(The 1/2 ton master cylinder will not move enough fluid to fully engage
the front brakes),
Been there, done that, don't argue.

First off stay away from that Power Ram Steering assist. Just take
those parts and chuck'em. Your bronco as a much better steering box and
linkage. I'm not sure when they added the power assist to the F250 but
they changed to the integral box some where in late 76 to 77 depending
on the plant and when the old parts ran out. The front axle sounds like
a 76 to me but without knowing for sure it is kind of a guess. Look on
the housing to see if there is a VIN stamped on the tubes. Some years
they also put the VIN here too. To preform your swap you will need to
change everything from the knuckle out including the knuckle. The
spindle on the 3/4 ton is larger than the spindle on the 1/2 ton. I
recently put a 78 front axle under my 63 and have taken it apart for
servicing and know what the parts look like.


> Does anyone know if they used the same calipers thoughout the
> 70's for F250's?

Ford used the same dual piston calipers on the 4x4 and 2x4. They are
fairly common and are about $80 a piece rebuilt including pads from the
parts house. The rotors on the other hand are a little different.
There are suposed to be two different rotors one for the 77-1/2 up and
the 77-1/2 and earlier. The price was $153 for the early and $156 for
the late model. JC Whittney has a listing for the calipers at about $79
and say that the same rotor will cover all year(speaking for 4x4 here)
I have not ordered any yet. The only difference between early and late
is the spaceing from the hub flange, about 1/4". I don't think this
will make a big difference but...

There was also a single piston F250, kind of the light duty. No reason
to discus this here.

> The calipers are of the dual piston type, and I need
> to know what to ask for to get new pads.

Just ask for a set or pads for a Ford 4x duel piston caliper. They
should all be the same. Bring your caliper in with you to check if you
are not sure.

They will produce lots of stopping power.
>
> Also, will 15" wheels fit on these?

In a word, NO. The front calipers are way to large for a 15" wheel.
> If so are 15" 8 bolt wheels easyto find?

In a word, NO. You can have a custom set made or find a used pair. A
few companies made them in the 79's, mostly steel wagon wheel type.
> Everything I've seen so far is 16.5".

You might be able to find a set of Steel 16" that will fit. The cast
aluminum is too thick on the inside and will hit the caliper or bolt.
You might try a 7"wide 16" steel wheel.
> One more thing...

Yes....
> Is there a difference between the Ford & Ch**Y 8 bolt patterns?

In a word, NO. They both use the same pattern. The only difference
would be the stud size.

If you are really interested in using 15" wheel you could use the 3/4
ton parts off a Chebby. They take just a little bit of grinding on the
caliper to make 15's fit.

Any other help you need just give me a eMail.

> Mike Masse
> Dept of Medicine
> H6/289
> 265-8513
> mrm medicine.wisc.edu
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/~mrm

--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

The scene;

Bunch of NASA guys looking at TV monitor.

"Look, A ROCK!"


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:53:50 -0700
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Kevin Kemmerer wrote:
>
> well, if .030 over then it has only one more life left (.060 over) after this one! generally a 71 is good, deck height changed over the years, but that really doesn't change much except for the guys who stroke the thing to 512 or more cubes. the heads are more important, 68 to 70 is really good, 71- 73?, good, 74 on is ok. many parts don't interchange between the 68-69 blocks and later blocks especially on the front of the block.
>
> sleddog

Hey sleddog, I think they still make a .040 over piston to make it a
468 :-]

--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44

Phase 172: rebuild front suspension

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:01:21 -0700
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Ken Payne wrote:
>
> At 05:23 PM 7/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >I am looking at a 72 F series extended cab pickup, it is four wheel drive,
> >lifted 6" with 2" body lift, it is powered by a mild 460 and has a few....


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