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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 113

Today's Topics:

Re: Dual Exhaust Balance Pipe [JIM HURD ]
Re: Dual Exhaust Balance Pipe ["Jim Strigas"
NUMBERS NUMBERS [Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott]
Turn Signals [billjhs ]
Re: NUMBERS NUMBERS [SHOman ]
Re: Intake Manifold [reedg ns2.cetlink.net ]
Re: Intake Manifold ["Tim and Jolee Hann"
Re: Holley on a 360 [marko helix.net (marko maryniak) ]
Re: Clutch rod bushing [marko helix.net (marko maryniak) ]
48 Ford F-1 Restoration ["Paul T. Clegg"
Re: Clutch rod bushing [JIM HURD ]
Re: Turn Signals ["Lee Hardy" ]
Spindle replacement :-( [Jerry & Lisa ]
Re: Spindle replacement :-( [Don Grossman ]
seat belts ["Jon" ]
1966 F100 Performance strategy advic ["J. Olson" ]

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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 12:30:43 -0500 (EST)
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JRFiero,

What little I know about exhaust theory I have only read about, know
actual experience, BUT, I did see a technical paper about ten years ago,
*think* it was from Suzuki (the motorcycle people). It said that the
balance pipe works much like an expansion chamber. If you could see inside
it with your x-ray vision with the engine at full throttle, the exhaust
doesn't pass _through_ the pipe, it just moves back and forth a few inches
to absorb the exhaust pulses from each main pipe. Keeps the pulses from
traveling back up the header and smacking into the next exhaust charge
coming down the pipe (and if the exhaust valve is open and the intake valve
is open (i.e. valve overlap) at this time, the shockwave can reverbarate
up into the intake track, which can knock the fuel out of suspension, etc.,
etc,......., which can put a real hole in the torque curve at some rpm
ranges. Also, since the balance tube reduces all this turbulance and
smacking together of exhaust charges, it makes the exhaust sound a bit
*smoother* (i.e., takes some of the V-8 rap out of the exhaust.)

I *guess* it sort of makes sense. Any other theory/folklore?

Jim in Central NY
'79 F-150 (302!)
'92 Topaz (3.0l)

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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:31:14 -0700
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I'll buy that one Jim! here's what I was told!
When one exhaust was under pressure the other would have a
void! A balance tube would allow the void side to draw from
the pressure side and vice versa increasing flow! the way
you determined where the balance tube went was to run the
engine until a discoloration appeared on the exhaust tube
that indicated the point of the greatest heat and pressure!
If you add that the pressure just goes back and forth in the
balance tube, the two theory/folklore's are vary close!
That's the great thing about theory/folklore it's
documented fact that people swear by, as gospel, just don't
know for sure if it's right! Case in point, When I had the
duel exhaust put on my truck I was told that I wouldn't
benefit by one because I had to little back pressure! Shorty
Headers, 2.25" tube, '73 so no cats, turbo mufflers 4" after
the mufflers they dump down, a ways before the rear-end!
This logic goes against both theory/folklore's! Go figure! I
will say a balance tube wouldn't be detrimental even if the
latter is correct! This one's just my own! Any more?

Jim Strigas
jstrigas worldnet.att.net

'73 F100
'83 XJ900RK
'86 GL1200 Custom


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> From: JIM HURD
> To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> Subject: Re: Dual Exhaust Balance Pipe
> Date: Sunday, July 13, 1997 10:30 AM
>
>
> JRFiero,
>
> What little I know about exhaust theory I have only
read about, know
> actual experience, BUT, I did see a technical paper about
ten years ago,
> *think* it was from Suzuki (the motorcycle people). It
said that the
> balance pipe works much like an expansion chamber. If you
could see inside
> it with your x-ray vision with the engine at full
throttle, the exhaust
> doesn't pass _through_ the pipe, it just moves back and
forth a few inches
> to absorb the exhaust pulses from each main pipe. Keeps
the pulses from
> traveling back up the header and smacking into the next
exhaust charge
> coming down the pipe (and if the exhaust valve is open and
the intake valve
> is open (i.e. valve overlap) at this time, the shockwave
can reverbarate
> up into the intake track, which can knock the fuel out of
suspension, etc.,
> etc,......., which can put a real hole in the torque curve
at some rpm
> ranges. Also, since the balance tube reduces all this
turbulance and
> smacking together of exhaust charges, it makes the exhaust
sound a bit
> *smoother* (i.e., takes some of the V-8 rap out of the
exhaust.)
>
> I *guess* it sort of makes sense. Any other
theory/folklore?
>
> Jim in Central NY
> '79 F-150 (302!)
> '92 Topaz (3.0l)
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 19:24:33 -0400
From: Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott)
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I have a 302 motor that I am working on. I got this motor from a friend
that had a friend that had a friend well you get the picture this thing
has been gone over so many times that there is nothing there that was
there from the factory the only numbers I can find are on the under side
of the block on he right hand side these numbers are as follows
D1OE-8016-AA what I need to know is if anyone can tell me what year
motor this is by these numbers I need to know so I can get the parts I
need I have got to get this thing on the road any help would be very
much appreciated .
Thanks Duke
One fine 69!

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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:22:53 -0400
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Hello to everyone, You have all been very helpful with my 1951 F-1. I
have another question for all. I have a turn signal unit on the column
of my 51 f-1 and it didn't work, well lo and behold the wires were all
cut under the dash. Does anyone know or have a schematic diagram of the
turn signal units. I have determined the switch arrangement of all the
wires, I just don't know exactly how the flasher unit works, etc...
Thanks for any help

Bill Hendrickson
billjhs excaliber.com

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 21:46:36 -0500
From: SHOman
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That number refers to a 1971 Block ie. D1...the sixties used the letter
C as in C9 for 1969 D for the 70's E for the 80's etc
Joe

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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:47:37 +0000
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> I am trying to find parts to increase performance for a '78 351M
> engine. Carb, intake manifold, heads and camshaft. To be honest I
> haven't worked on alot of ford engines. And I haven't been able to
> find much info on the 351M. Any help would he HIGHLY appreciated.

Okay, So my engine is a slug. However that is what I have to work
with.
I just brought a '78 F150 Custom 4X4. It has the 351M engine, a
full-time NP203 transfer case. Looks like it has about a 3" body
lift. Plus all the standard axels for that year model. It runs and I
paid $300.00 for it. Couldn't beat the price. What I am looking for
in a truck is something I can fix up, that has a reasonable amount of
hp, with an engine that will last a couple of hundred thousand miles.
I don't plan on pulling oak trees up by the roots, but I do plan on
going fishing in some pretty remote spots.
If the 351M is not worth rebuilding, I guess I could get a short
block 351W or 400. The parts that you can interchange between ford
engines are somewhat confusing. Just what is it about the 351M that
makes it a slug?

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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:25:41 -0700
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The 351M is a byproduct of the early 400 engine. The prob with trying to =
built a 351M engine is that you are limited on what you can do to it. =
You can do heads and cams but you cant buy pistons. In 70 or 71 the 400 =
came out with a 10to1 piston in the Thunderbird. But now that piston is =
not serviced any longer, unless you find a used set(fat chance of that). =
Now the 351W is a great engine with limitless options. But it does not =
have the same trans mounting as the 351M, it has the 429/460 mounting. =
You can built a stock 429 4V engine that will give you good service =
above average HP and Torque. Or you could built a 429 that you cant keep =
tranys behind. Where I work we have 1 ton vans with 460's and the newest =
one has 130k on it and has never had a valve cover off of it. We have =
another with 250k and we rolled in a set of bearing and a timing chain =
at 200k, just because. It was a shame to have replaced them brgs, they =
were not even to the copper. Keep in mind that pre 72 429/460 is what =
you should try to find. The 72 and up blocks have a higher deck hight =
than the pre 72 engine. There still a good engine by all means but =
haven't the high compression or quite the torque the early engines do. =
Your trans has the same mounting as the 429/460. You would be better to =
go that way than 351W. The mounts are availible from Ford too.

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Date: Sunday, July 13, 1997 7:54 PM
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> I am trying to find parts to increase performance for a '78 351M
> engine. Carb, intake manifold, heads and camshaft. To be honest I
> haven't worked on alot of ford engines. And I haven't been able to
> find much info on the 351M. Any help would he HIGHLY appreciated.

Okay, So my engine is a slug. However that is what I have to work
with.
I just brought a '78 F150 Custom 4X4. It has the 351M engine, a
full-time NP203 transfer case. Looks like it has about a 3" body
lift. Plus all the standard axels for that year model. It runs and I
paid $300.00 for it. Couldn't beat the price. What I am looking for
in a truck is something I can fix up, that has a reasonable amount of
hp, with an engine that will last a couple of hundred thousand miles.
I don't plan on pulling oak trees up by the roots, but I do plan on
going fishing in some pretty remote spots.
If the 351M is not worth rebuilding, I guess I could get a short
block 351W or 400. The parts that you can interchange between ford
engines are somewhat confusing. Just what is it about the 351M that
makes it a slug?


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> I am trying to find parts to increase performance for a '78 =
351M
> engine. Carb, intake manifold, heads and camshaft. To be honest =
I
> haven't worked on alot of ford engines. And I haven't been able =
to
> find much info on the 351M. Any help would he HIGHLY =
appreciated.

Okay, So my engine is a slug. However that is what I have to work
with.
I just brought a '78 F150 Custom 4X4. It has the 351M engine, a
full-time NP203 transfer case. Looks like it has about a 3" =
body
lift. Plus all the standard axels for that year model. It runs and I
paid $300.00 for it. Couldn't beat the price. What I am looking for
in a truck is something I can fix up, that has a reasonable amount =
of
hp, with an engine that will last a couple of hundred thousand =
miles.
I don't plan on pulling oak trees up by the roots, but I do plan on
going fishing in some pretty remote spots.
If the 351M is not worth rebuilding, I guess I could get a short
block 351W or 400. The parts that you can interchange between ford
engines are somewhat confusing. Just what is it about the 351M that
makes it a slug?


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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:17:59 -0700
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
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>I have a '69 360 with a Holley 4150, 600CFM. It has never run real good,
>always rich. Can anyone recommend primary and secondary jet sizes? It is
>basically stock (cam, crank, ign.) except for an Edelbrock Performer RPM
>intake (the stock manifold makes a pretty good anchor). What about spring
>for the vacuum secondaries?
>If anyone has some wiring schematics for the 69 F 100, I would also be
>interested.
>Thanks, Chris
>
>"69 F-100, 360-spd
>
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Hey Chris,

Jim Hurd from this group sent me a very informative email on jet sizes. You
should post what list number your carb is and he'll figure out the rest and
post it. He saved me a buncha trouble....

marko in vancouver
marko helix.net
71 f250 4x4 360

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:28:58 -0700
From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
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>
> So today I took apart all the clutch rod linkages and the clutch
>equalizer bar (aka clutch cross shaft) for cleaning and lubrication.
>I found that the felt washer on the outboard end of the clutch
>equalizer bar has disintegrated and the plastic bushing that is used
>where the clutch rod (that drops down through the floor boards) connects
>to the equalizer bar is also shot. Is the Ford Dealer the only source
>for these parts? Anybody seen them anyplace else?
>
>TIA
>Jim in Central NY
>'79 F-150 (302!)
>'92 Topaz (3.0l)
>

hey Jim,

Call an independent transmission shop in your location, or even a heavy
truck repair shop, they shud be able to tell you if you can get it anywhere
else. When I went to re-bush my springs I found out from a spring place
that the bushings are just "bushing stock" that can be cut to fit, no need
to go to Ford...

While I'm at it I'll ask you another question:

Originally, before I bought the 6919 carb for my truck, I bought a used
Holley, something called a List 9834. When I took it apart I found it had
(gasp!) #68 jets in it. Could you tell me what application this carburetor
was intended for, and what jets and spring sizes, and what power valve it
was intended to have? If it was for something like a 390 I might rebuild it
properly and keep it until I rebuild a 390 as well....

marko in vancouver
marko helix.net
71 f250 4x4 360 for now

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:37:40 -0600
From: "Paul T. Clegg"
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Does anyone know what color interior (headliner and seat) were original =
for a dark green 1948 Ford F-1 pickup? Perhaps there were several =
combinations available. I am also looking for a dip-stick for its 226 =
engine and a stearing wheel. Thanks, Paul Clegg. paulc transera.com

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:34:03 -0500 (EST)
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Lee and marko,
Thanks for your suggestions on finding "clutch bar bushings". I tried
Pep Boys and Parts America this weekend with no luck. One place I actually
got a 'shrug of the shoulders' which I interpreted as meaning they didn't
have anything; the other place I couldn't tell if they didn't have it or
just didn't want to be bothered. If they are on commision, I can see why
they may not want to look for half an hour for a $.05 part. At least my
NAPA guy was honest...he said he has been looking for the same part for his
truck, and to let him know if I find any :)

Marko, that 0-9834 is listed as a universal application, vacuum secondaries
non emissions, electric choke, 600 CFM, model 4160. It should have come
through with 642 primary main jets. (A 642 is a "close limit" jet. It is
a number 64 jet and the third digit indicates if it flows on the lean side (1),
in the middle (2), or on the rich side (3). There is about 1.5% difference
in flow between each suffix of the close limit jets, for a total flow range
difference of about 4.5%).
It should have a 134-39 secondary metering plate, which should flow
equivalent to a #69 jet. Power valve should be 6.5" single stage, and a
black spring on the secondaries. Note: Holly also lists a 0-9834-1, 0-9834-2,
and 0-9834-3, each with slightly bigger jets on the primary side.

Jim in Central NY
'79 F-150 (302!)
'92 Topaz (3.0l)

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:38:45 -0400
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> From: billjhs
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> Subject: Turn Signals
> Date: Sunday, July 13, 1997 5:22 PM
>
> Hello to everyone, You have all been very helpful with my 1951 F-1. I
> have another question for all. I have a turn signal unit on the column
> of my 51 f-1 and it didn't work, well lo and behold the wires were all
> cut under the dash. Does anyone know or have a schematic diagram of the
> turn signal units. I have determined the switch arrangement of all the
> wires, I just don't know exactly how the flasher unit works, etc...
> Thanks for any help
>
> Bill Hendrickson
> billjhs excaliber.com
>
>
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:45:12 -0700
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So we happily, ignorantly go to replace our worn out hub/rotor assy.
on the driver side (after a very successful replacement on passenger
side last weekend) and lo and behold we find one of those "Oh s! t, not
that!!" problems.... We might be looking at a spindle replacement, but
we are not sure.

We need to identify a round, metal piece with holes that is in the hub
assembly. It lies past the internal and external bearings inside the
hub. My husband calls it a lock washer and says its purpose is to keep
the hub nut from turning and it also holds the assembly to the spindle.
I have a 2kb .gif that I could email to anyone who might be able to
identify this part. Anyway, this piece is not supposed to be able to
turn on the spindle but it does. We are hoping only this part and not
the whole spindle needs replacing.

Also, we found that only after market vendors and your local pricey
Ford dealer carry spindles for our year (77). Does anyone know a good
place to go for one at a reasonable price?? What is a reasonable price
anyway? We have a 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers catalog and they have them
for $105.72.

Thanks in advance...


Jerry & Lisa
'77 F150 4x4

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:51:36 +0000
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Jerry & Lisa wrote:

> So we happily, ignorantly go to replace our worn out hub/rotor assy.
> on the driver side (after a very successful replacement on passenger
> side last weekend) and lo and behold we find one of those "Oh s! t,
> not
> that!!" problems.... We might be looking at a spindle replacement, but
>
> we are not sure.
>
> We need to identify a round, metal piece with holes that is in the
> hub
> assembly. It lies past the internal and external bearings inside the
> hub. My husband calls it a lock washer and says its purpose is to keep
>
> the hub nut from turning and it also holds the assembly to the
> spindle.
> I have a 2kb .gif that I could email to anyone who might be able to
> identify this part. Anyway, this piece is not supposed to be able to
> turn on the spindle but it does. We are hoping only this part and not
> the whole spindle needs replacing.
>

It is the locking ring. The is a very common parts store item. They
should have them in stock. If they don't I have bout 6 or 8 laying
arround the garage. This could be the only problem that you have. If
the bering surface is extremly warn or the area of the spindle where the
locking nuts thread on are completely warn off you might need to replace
the spindle. It is hard to tell without looking at the spindle. Go
ahead and send me the gif fo the locking ring if you have the time. I
like to collect pictures of parts just to have in case of a situation
like this.

> Also, we found that only after market vendors and your local pricey
> Ford dealer carry spindles for our year (77). Does anyone know a good
> place to go for one at a reasonable price?? What is a reasonable price
>
> anyway? We have a 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers catalog and they have them
>
> for $105.72.
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Jerry & Lisa
> '77 F150 4x4
>

Right now spindles are stilla vailable but I can see in the future them
becomming rather scarce. JC Whittney sells some spindles for jeeps but
I do not know if they have any for the full size dana 44 in trucks.

--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

The scene;

Bunch of NASA guys looking at TV monitor.

"Look, A ROCK!"


63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44


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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:41:37 -0800
From: "Jon"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: seat belts
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Hello to all

I'm in the the middle of my current project
a 77 F-150 ranger, a complete frame off resto.
and I need seat belts, ford is no help, the guy at
the parts counter does not even know what a 77
looks like, I think he should be fired for that, anyway
does anyone know what other years might work
for the
shoulder belts, the webbing is messed up on mine

TIA

jon
URJB Racing ...Because walking sucks!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.urjb.com/

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:29:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Olson"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com....


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