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Return-Path: From: fordtrucks-digest-request Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 14:22:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: t3.media3.net: lof set sender to fordtrucks-digest-request Subject: fordtrucks-digest Digest V97 #102 X-Loop: fordtrucks-digest X-Mailing-List: archive/volume97/102 X-Distributed-By: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ To: fordtrucks-digest Reply-To: fordtrucks ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 102 Today's Topics: Re: Heartstopping brake failure... [Chris North ] Re: 52 6 cyl. engine [Niqjh Re: 52 6 cyl. engine [Niqjh Re: Heartstopping brake failure... ["Jim Strigas" Re: '97 Trucks [Ducks4jim RE: Brake Bleeding [sdelanty Re: Heartstopping brake failure... [marko Re: Brake Bleeding ["George Shepherd" Re: Heartstopping brake failure... ["George Shepherd" ADMIN: Everyone who's fairly new ple [Ken Payne ] Re: Heartstopping brake failure... ["chita" ] Re: Heartstopping brake failure... ["chita" ] RE: 9 inch rear end [Kevin Kemmerer ] RE: 9 inch rear end [Kevin Kemmerer ] 9 inch rear end [Tkaczyk ] '76 ford Highboy, Cab Mounts ["Terry R Sherman" Re: Heartstopping brake failure... ["George Shepherd" Administrivia: ____________________________________________________________________ Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-digest-request Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ____________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 20:31:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris North To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Heartstopping brake failure... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > While trying to avoid highway holiday crazies today, I found the brake >pedal suddenly slamming nearly to the floor. Luckily, the little car that >had swiveled briefly across my lane kept going. I went into first gear, >which gave me time to slow down and limp to the side of the road. After >just a few seconds, the brakes seemed to return. I went on surface roads, >which were pretty empty, and limped home. I tried to stay off the brakes. >The route was mostly uphill. > > I just got home. Looked in the master cylinder -- the left side of >the can >is empty, the right side full. > > Any hints, tips, clues, etc., gratefully accepted. I've got other >cars - >the Ford dealer's closed anyway and won't be back up (for service) until >Monday. My first impulse is to buy a jug of brake fluid and pour enough in >to find the leak. It must be leaking, right? No stains on the driveway, no >screeching, nothing obvious when I look underneath - but something's badly >wrong, obviously. > > It's a 1984 F-250, with 6.9L diesel engine. > This is not that too bad to figure out. You have disk brakes, right? (I usually think of the resivoirs as front and back, not left or right, but it really doesn't matter). Which resivoir is empty, the big one or the little one? I would bet on the big one, as this is the one that feeds the front disks. With it empty, you would be running only on the rear brakes. Since the front brakes do the vast majority of the braking, loosing them would seem (at first) like loosing all your brakes. If it is your front disks, I would vote that your calipers are leaking. Pull your tires off and look for signs of brake fluid leaks (rust--brake fluid is corrosive and will eat any known paint, or wet stains). Rebuilding your calipers is not too bad of a job and rebuilt calipers are not that expensive (although anything to do with brakes for a 3/4 ton isn't real cheap). You probably need to repack your wheel bearings anyway 8-). If it is your rear, and you have a full floating Dana 60, just getting the drums off is a bit of a chore. The rear wheel cylinders can be rebuilt, or rebuilt ones can be purchased. Of course, you could have a leak in one of the lines, so be sure to look for signs of brake fluid leaks. If you are not comfortable with doing brake repairs, do not hesitate to take it to a shop. The brakes are one of the most important systems on the vehicle and it is not worth saving a few bucks if they will be spent on your funeral. chris north ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 22:01:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Niqjh To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: 52 6 cyl. engine Message-ID: Hi Here is what I can glean(from memory of my 51) from this info- GVW 4700 Wheelbase 114" 91 net hp end ratio Hope that helps Nick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 22:11:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Niqjh To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: 52 6 cyl. engine Message-ID: Hi again I should have metioned that this should be a 215 cid ohv "Cost Clipper" six. Nick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:45:01 -0700 From: "Jim Strigas" To: Subject: Re: Heartstopping brake failure... Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chita, Thank God your OK! Can you see a wet place where the fluid leaked from? (I agree it had to go some place!) My guess is you blew a rear wheel cylinder when you hit the brakes! You may have to pull the wheels to see, with the wheel cylinder is inside the drum, it could be a little hard to see where it leaked from! Yes, get some brake fluid fill the reservoir, start the engine and press hard on the brakes, and I do mean hard! If something is going to give, the driveway is a nice place for it to go! If you have brakes, (after the weekend probably) you can take it and have it checked out! I don't know why I think you live around me (Rancho Cucamonga So.Ca) but if you do and you need a hand let me know. My only plan for this weekend is tomorrow, the rest is free! Freaky feeling isn't it! Half your brain wants to pump the peddle once, to try and get some brakes. The other half wants to push thru the floor and Fred Flintstone the beast to a stop. The pump the peddle half has a chance, but the Fred Flintstone half wins every time, and never gets thru the floor! :) I really am glad it turned out OK for you! I've come to like you! Your a good friend! Later, Thank God! Jim Strigas jstrigas '73 F100 '83 XJ900RK '86 GL1200 Custom '77 Buick Estate Wagon ---------- > From: chita > To: fordtrucks > Subject: Heartstopping brake failure... > Date: Thursday, July 03, 1997 5:21 PM > > While trying to avoid highway holiday crazies today, I found the brake > pedal suddenly slamming nearly to the floor. Luckily, the little car that > had swiveled briefly across my lane kept going. I went into first gear, > which gave me time to slow down and limp to the side of the road. After > just a few seconds, the brakes seemed to return. I went on surface roads, > which were pretty empty, and limped home. I tried to stay off the brakes. > The route was mostly uphill. > > I just got home. Looked in the master cylinder -- the left side of the can > is empty, the right side full. > > Any hints, tips, clues, etc., gratefully accepted. I've got other cars - > the Ford dealer's closed anyway and won't be back up (for service) until > Monday. My first impulse is to buy a jug of brake fluid and pour enough in > to find the leak. It must be leaking, right? No stains on the driveway, no > screeching, nothing obvious when I look underneath - but something's badly > wrong, obviously. > > It's a 1984 F-250, with 6.9L diesel engine. > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ _______ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:23:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Ducks4jim To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: '97 Trucks Message-ID: I don't know how many lug nuts are on my '97, and won't until I need to rotate the tires. The body style didn't change on the diesel for 1997, at least yet. Thank god. Would like to hear comments from other power-stroke owners. Had the truck in the shop for 2 weeks already - an injector was installed wrong and almost caused a major motor wreck. Should I have bought a Dodge Cummins? 1997 F250 Supercab Powerstroke ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 20:33:04 -0700 From: sdelanty To: FORDTRUCKS Subject: RE: Brake Bleeding Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>Can we clean the MC or should we purchase a >> new/remanufactured >> one? Do we need new lines or can they be cleaned? Flush it all out with lots of fresh fluid. >If you're braking ok, I wouldn't really worry about the >master cylinder. However, a rebuilt unit is expensive >(20-30 bucks) so its cheap insurance and only takes about >10-20 minutes to change. Brake lines are made of steel and >unless they show swells, kinks, fractures or rust I wouldn't >change them. Yes, steel lines are unlikely to cause trouble unless kinked, etc. However, I have seen plugged rubber flex lines before. Once, a line plugged by a small flap of rubber that cracked loose inside the line, and once a set of rubber lines that was *swollen shut* inside.... Fluid incompatibility anyone? Anyway, it's kinda unlikely, but possible. Might check it if all else fails. A plugged master cylinder cap vent can also make brake bleading impossible... Good luck, You can get pre-bent tubing but installing it >is still a pain - unbent tubing is not fun and requires proper >tools. The method I use to clean out a brake system is to >keep bleeding the system at each wheel, all the while adding >fresh fluid to the master cylinder, until completely clear/clean >fluid starts coming out of each bleeder nipple. (Hint, try to >take out as much of the existing fluid from the master cylinder >and put in clean fluid before starting this procedure as it will >reduce the amount of time it takes to purge the system) Once >clean fluid appears, give one or two extra pumps of the peddle >just to be sure. Once sure fire method is to completely drain >the existing fluid from all the wheels until the system has >virtually no fluid. Then start with the above purging procedure. > > >> Thanks for all the input you guys have given on our wheel/grind and >> brake bleeding posts. Your advice has continually steered us in the >> right direction. >> >> Jerry & Lisa >> '77 F150 Flareside 4x4 >> >> Steve Delanty 1971 F100 shortbox, FE390, T-18 4-speed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 21:11:08 -0700 From: marko To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Heartstopping brake failure... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > While trying to avoid highway holiday crazies today, I found the brake >pedal suddenly slamming nearly to the floor. Luckily, the little car that >had swiveled briefly across my lane kept going. I went into first gear, >which gave me time to slow down and limp to the side of the road. After >just a few seconds, the brakes seemed to return. I went on surface roads, >which were pretty empty, and limped home. I tried to stay off the brakes. >The route was mostly uphill. > > I just got home. Looked in the master cylinder -- the left side of the can >is empty, the right side full. > > Any hints, tips, clues, etc., gratefully accepted. I've got other cars - >the Ford dealer's closed anyway and won't be back up (for service) until >Monday. My first impulse is to buy a jug of brake fluid and pour enough in >to find the leak. It must be leaking, right? No stains on the driveway, no >screeching, nothing obvious when I look underneath - but something's badly >wrong, obviously. > > It's a 1984 F-250, with 6.9L diesel engine. > > yipe. Maybe all the fluid ran out someplace like on the highway. Actually it won't leak below the master unless you pump the pedal. So, fill your empty part and pump like heck in your driveway. Then refill and pump some more, and some more. Have a friend listen at each wheel for that pfft sound. Then look for leaks. Another thing to look for: is the inside of any of the tires sticky(or the dust shield on the inside?), or around the calipers on the front? This should give you a good idea of what's going on. good luck and stay out of that truck till you figure the problem. marko in vancouver marko 71 f250 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:26:36 -0500 From: "George Shepherd" To: Subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: Gerald & Lisa > To: fordtrucks > Subject: Re: Brake Bleeding > Date: Thursday, July 03, 1997 9:32 AM > > My husband originally thought he knew what he was doing so he just > hooked the bleeder hose up and had me working the brake pedal. This > produced about one small air bubble for every 2 pumps of the pedal. When > this method appeared to get us nowhere fast, we pulled out the Haynes. > It says that you open the bleeder rod on the pressure differential valve > first to allow fluid to flow to the calipers....The Haynes also says > that you work with the wheel furthest from the master cylinder and work > your way forward. After working on this all night last night, we came to > the conclusion that our brake lines are clogged. > > We noticed when we added fluid to the MC that it became murky. > Apparently whoever has owned this truck before us has not bothered to > maintain it at all...too bad. Anyway, now it looks like we will have to > purge the brake system. Take it to a brake shop- they have a power purger that ought to work. To do it yourself-see below. Anybody have any ideas? What are the brake lines > made of? Can we clean the MC or should we purchase a new/remanufactured > one? You can clean and rebuild the master cylinder if the bore is ok. Replace it with a new or factory rebuilt if the bore is pitted or worn. Do we need new lines or can they be cleaned? The lines are steel and should be ok. Remove them from both ends and blow them out with compressed air- use a rubber tube over the end and a jar to keep from getting brake fluid all over everywhere. Replace the flex lines to the front wheels and to the rear axel. > > Thanks for all the input you guys have given on our wheel/grind and > brake bleeding posts. Your advice has continually steered us in the > right direction. > > Jerry & Lisa > '77 F150 Flareside 4x4 > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:52:16 -0500 From: "George Shepherd" To: Subject: Re: Heartstopping brake failure... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Its obviously leaking, just where is often hard to tell. The master cylinder may be leaking- dheck the fire wall on both sides for traces of brake fluid. It could also be leaking into the brake booster system. Check any place there are fittings in the brake lines-like the proportioning valve. Check the front brake pistons for leakage. Check the back side of the rear tires for signs of leakage. If necessary, remove the rear drums to check for leakage. ---------- > From: chita > To: fordtrucks > Subject: Heartstopping brake failure... > Date: Thursday, July 03, 1997 7:21 PM > > While trying to avoid highway holiday crazies today, I found the brake > pedal suddenly slamming nearly to the floor. Luckily, the little car that > had swiveled briefly across my lane kept going. I went into first gear, > which gave me time to slow down and limp to the side of the road. After > just a few seconds, the brakes seemed to return. I went on surface roads, > which were pretty empty, and limped home. I tried to stay off the brakes. > The route was mostly uphill. > > I just got home. Looked in the master cylinder -- the left side of the can > is empty, the right side full. > > Any hints, tips, clues, etc., gratefully accepted. I've got other cars - > the Ford dealer's closed anyway and won't be back up (for service) until > Monday. My first impulse is to buy a jug of brake fluid and pour enough in > to find the leak. It must be leaking, right? No stains on the driveway, no > screeching, nothing obvious when I look underneath - but something's badly > wrong, obviously. > > It's a 1984 F-250, with 6.9L diesel engine. > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 01:28:26 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: ADMIN: Everyone who's fairly new please read Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I post this message periodically as people with 1980 or newer trucks show up on this list. About 2 months ago we split into two lists, one covering 1979 and older trucks (this one) and another covering 1980 and newer trucks. Unfortunately, although I notified AOL email list site of these changes they **still** have not updated their email list web site to reflect these changes so we occasionally get a newer truck owner on the older truck list. There are possibly one or two other sites out there that still do not have our new list information. If you or anyone else wishes to be switched over to (or added to in addition to this list) the 1980 and newer list, please email me with your request and let me know if you want the live or digest list. Also, let me know how you found our list so I can try to send corrections to any web sites that are still in error. You'll get complete posting instructions when I switch you over. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause anyone. -Ken 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8 List Maintainer, send comments or suggestions to: kpayne Visit our web site (subscribe/unsubscribe forms are there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:27:28 -0700 From: "chita" To: Subject: Re: Heartstopping brake failure... Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm logging everybody's messages about what might have happened to my brakeless Ford today. It's been a few hours now and it still sorta passes my life in front of me, if you know what I mean. I realize now I said left/right when I meant the "big" side of the master cylinder reservoir was full and the other was empty. The big side is on the right if you're standing on the driver side looking in at it. It took only three ounces of brake fluid to get the brake to stay up. I pumped a bunch - and nothing obviously gurgled anywhere. It got too dark to get a good look. I'll try again tomorrow. The car will go into the shop Tuesday. I have another car to use. I'll look and see if I can figure it out, but the rear wheels in particular are hard to handle at home. Also I was actually nervous to test it after putting in fluid. Not a good feeling. I have never in my life had brakes fail. I don't think I wanna learn about this topic the hard way. The Ford dealer charges $85 for a brake inspection, but that's gotta be cheaper than a crash from amateur bungling. Sad to say, I feel the need to prepare to ask tough questions, to make SURE their answer makes sense. Some odd things happen at dealerships. THANKS to everybody for being so generous with information and support. I really appreciate it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:45:12 -0700 From: "chita" To: Subject: Re: Heartstopping brake failure... Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: Chris North >Which resivoir is empty, the big one or the little > one? I would bet on the big one, as this is the one that feeds the front > disks. With it empty, you would be running only on the rear brakes. Since > the front brakes do the vast majority of the braking, loosing them would > seem (at first) like loosing all your brakes. It was the smaller one, furthest away from the driver. The other one seemed overfull, if anything. But my hands might have been shaking when I pried up the bailing wire on the master cylinder. I dribbled some over the side. After adding three ounces of brake fluid, the pedal now stays up. Of course, I only drove it at 15 mph around the block! Big Blue's headed for the shop next week, but I'll spend some time under there beforehand. I want to be prepared for the dealer's diagnosis. Some odd things have happened over there. I'd like to have some idea what's wrong before I go. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 09:58:45 -0400 From: Kevin Kemmerer To: "'fordtrucks Subject: RE: 9 inch rear end Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sounds like one to me. the snout has a set of bolts that bolt the = pinion section to the carrier. don't know much about mavericks, but it = sounds like a 9" to me. 9 inchers where made in several "sizes". the lighter cars had a lighter = duty welded housing and 28(i think) spline axles. there was a beefier = hnousing, and one even beefier (with 31t spline) wich was used in the = 70's 1/2 ton v8 trucks and some luxury cars,-the 6 cyl truck used to = lighter axle. on the ouside, the difference in these 3 is measureable = by the length that the center weldment runs out before the round axle = tube is welded on. ---------- From: DC Beatty[SMTP:104452.1362 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 1997 4:22 PM To: 'INTERNET:fordtrucks Subject: RE: 9 inch rear end So I read this. Then I look under my crusty old Maverick to find>> no rear access plate on the rear end, just a weld a set of bolts holding the removable center section to the front of the diff. another set of bolts holding what looks to be the whole front half of = the diff. on=20 =09 Could it be that I have a 9" rear end in my ugly Maverick? It's all = stock, 1974 4-door with a 302/C4. Have my ignorance and I owned one of these = sought-after items all this time?=20 Thanks, and thanks for all the knowledge. DC Beatty 1967 F-100 352 1974 Maverick 302 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 10:04:58 -0400 From: Kevin Kemmerer To: "'fordtrucks Subject: RE: 9 inch rear end Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well, as my memory serves, the 8.8 housing from ford is a cast center = with pressed in axle tubes, a rear access cover and basically looks like = the small dana axles. the picture i have here (don't have an axle) in = the ford motorsports catalog shows the 8.8 to be what i describe above = also. the 86-94 'stangs use the 8.8. look at one and unless someone put in a = 9", which is a popular swap, then what you see is an 8.8 - compare this = to your maverick for a garenteed answer. ---------- From: Chris North[SMTP:chrisn Sent: Thursday, July 03, 1997 2:55 PM To: fordtrucks Cc: 104452.1362 Subject: RE: 9 inch rear end Not wanting to flame anybody, but... Probably an 8". >So I read this. Then I look under my crusty old Maverick to find>> > no rear access plate on the rear end, just a weld > a set of bolts holding the removable center section to the front of = the >diff. > another set of bolts holding what looks to be the whole front half >of the >diff. on > >Could it be that I have a 9" rear end in my ugly Maverick? It's all = stock, >1974 >4-door with a 302/C4. Have my ignorance and I owned one of these = sought-after >items all this time? > >Thanks, and thanks for all the knowledge. >DC Beatty >1967 F-100 352 >1974 Maverick 302 > >a ford 9" is a welded steel housing with a center section (diferential) >that is >removable from the front. once out a close look at the carrier (center >section >or third member) shows adjusting nuts for the ring gear/pinion = adjustment >instead of shims as most axles have. >the 9" is a ford axle only. a dana axle like the dana 44, dana 60, = dana 70, >dana 80 are made by dana and also called spicer axles. all of these = axles are >castings with pressed or weleded on axle tubes and a cover plate on the >rear of >the axle (the nine inch has no cover plate), you know, the one many = people >buy a >crome one and bolt it on. >the dana has the size on the snout. the nine inch was for the 1/2 ton = trucks >and the dana 44 was is the front of the 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks. dana = 60 was >used in the 3/4 ton trucks in the front of one tons, and the 70 and 80 = found >thier way into one tons. if you look at a nine inch, it does not have = round >axle tubes but the dana axles do. also the dana 60 and larger rear = axles are >genereally full floater axles. > >sleddog > >---------- >From: DC Beatty[SMTP:104452.1362 >Sent: Thursday, July 03, 1997 12:10 AM >To: 'FORD TRUCKS' >Subject: 9 inch rear end > >I have a Dana 3.54:1 limited slip diff. in my truck. Is this considered = a 9"? >Also, isn't this also named a "spicer 44" or something? How does a = person >distinguish a 9" from looking at it? > >Thanks. I've been real curious about this for a long time. > >DC Beatty >1967 F-100 352 >1974 Maverick 302 > > >____________________________________________________________________ >Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ >For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request >Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne chris north ____________________________________________________________________ Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 10:44:22 -0400 From: Tkaczyk To: fordtrucks Subject: 9 inch rear end Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Speaking Ford only, both the 8" and 9" have center sections that drop out from the front of the axle. A quick way to tell that you have the 9" is that the bottom 2 nuts which hold the center section to the axle will not be accessible with a socket, only accessible with a box or open end wrench. Also, my experenciece is that the least expensive way to acquire center secions (open and posi) is at automotive swap meets/flea markets. Gary Tkaczyk 55 F100 84 & 85 BroncoII ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:56:41 -0500 From: "Terry R Sherman" To: Subject: '76 ford Highboy, Cab Mounts Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not sure how to send mailto this list! Am I right? Do you just reply to someone on the list!? Jeez, I hope so! The front cab mounts colapsed on me truck! I got new replacement parts, but how do I repair it? Any ideas, I have an appointment for monday at a body shop, they estimated $250 but I think it will increase. Is this to expensive? PLEASE HELP! This truck is in excalant condition but the only thing that was wrong with it when I got it was cab mounts.... I put to much stress on them last weekend going to find my fishing spot... PLEASE HELP!!!! Thank You, Terry Sherman terbear ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 13:22:12 -0500 From: "George Shepherd" To: Subject: Re: Heartstopping brake failure... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: chita > To: fordtrucks > Subject: Re: Heartstopping brake failure... > Date: Friday, July 04, 1997 1:27 AM > > I'm logging everybody's messages about what might have happened to my > brakeless Ford today. It's been a few hours now and it still sorta > passes my life in front of me, if you know what I mean. > > I realize now I said left/right when I meant the "big" side of the master > cylinder reservoir was full and the other was empty. The big side is on the > right if you're standing on the driver side looking in at it. > > It took only three ounces of brake fluid to get the brake to stay up. I > pumped a bunch - and nothing obviously gurgled anywhere. It got too dark to > get a good look. I'll try again tomorrow. > .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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