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fordtrucks97up-digest Tuesday, March 24 1998 Volume 01 : Number 034



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In this issue:

FW: head restraints in the 99's [Rich Cower ]
re: Ford -vs Chevy-in depth [Ryan Gajeski ]
Re: What engine/axle combo for my application? [alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The]
Re: What engine/axle combo for my application? ["."
Re: FW: head restraints in the 99's [Ken Payne ]
F150 - F250LD Diesel Option [Jim Clementz ]
Ordering 1999 S.D. ["Jeff Schapker" ]
Re: F150 - F250LD Diesel Option [BigFords1 ]
Ford Tech [BigFords1 ]
Re: Ordering 1999 S.D. [BigFords1 ]
50th Anniversary Blanket ["Carol A. Ziel" ]

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:06:44 -0800
From: Rich Cower
Subject: FW: head restraints in the 99's

It appears this "service" might not be up and running yet.

rich

- -----Original Message-----
From:CAC [SMTP:cacinfo ford.com]
Sent:Monday, March 23, 1998 6:29 AM
To:Rich Cower
Subject:Re: head restraints in the 99's

Hello Rich Cower,

We have received your e-mail. At this time we are not equipped to
answer questions via the internet.

However, please contact our Customer Assistance Center toll-free at
1-800-392-3673 (FORD) or write to us at:

Ford Motor Company
Customer Assistance Center
300 Renaissance Center
P.O. Box 43360
Detroit MI 48243

Thank you for contacting Ford.



Rich Cower wrote:
>
> We have a 97 F350 4wd, crew cab. We traded in our 89 F350 crew cab when the kids got big enough
> that their heads extended above the seat back - it had no restraints and the 97 does. We considered this
> a very important feature as it could prevent serious head and neck injury in the event of a rear end
> collison.
>
> We've ordered a 99 F350 DRW, 4WD, Powerstroke, Lariat, crew cab - and the dealer is saying it does not come with head
> restraints on the rear seat. I'm considering canceling the order. I like Ford trucks, I've driven them all my life and
> I believe they offer great value for the dollar but I won't put my kids in a vehicle that is inherently unsafe. I'm also
> talking to various after market seat shops to see if they can build me a seat that offers some protection.
>
> Will Ford offer a rear seat with head restraints in the crew cab? Will a 97 crew cab rear seat fit the 99? This is
> another option I've considered - I could easily order that seat thru Ford. I've been told
> by my dealer that an LE package will be offered later this year - will the rear seats have restraints? and
> will the rear seat offer middle seating (we often put a baby in a car seat there).
>
> The 99 Crew Cab is a great truck - but dropping the restraints - and not offering them at all is not good marketing.
> Others I've spoken with on this subject agree - and they range from dealers to customers whom I've
> exchanged email with on the Internet.
>
> Thanks for helping me with these questions - rich cower 916-652-6623

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:51:54 -0600 (CST)
From: Ryan Gajeski
Subject: re: Ford -vs Chevy-in depth

My 2 cents is that chevy does suck and will always be a step behind!

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:45:13 -0800
From: alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Subject: Re: What engine/axle combo for my application?

> The hills are as stated. When you have to go into the mountains you
> will find WORSE hills than what I quoted.

> I actually mean 60 deg from the horizontal, believe it or not?

I can't think of any vehicle that can negotiate a 60 degree slope...
let alone one that can tow a trailer up tat slope. Are some of the
hills used for jeep hill climbs 60 percent, or are they more in the
45 percent range?

- ---

Alan Hepburn | |
National Semiconductor | Proud to be part of the |
Santa Clara, Ca | Vast Right Wing Conspiracy |
alanh galaxy.nsc.com | |

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:07:00 -0800
From: "."
Subject: Re: What engine/axle combo for my application?

How about an 80 degree + slope?

To be informed is to be FULLY armed. There are many vehicles that will
negotiate a 60 degree slope. Hmmmm! someone posted a clarification on SLOPE
and grade. Forgot which is which but the clarifications delivered to the
list were ENTIRELY correct. Besides, a 60 degree slope is only 15 degrees
more than a 45 degree slope.

Would you believe that a ball can roll UPHILL?

Not only tow a trailer but a trailer and an 8 foot camper.

Just kidding, you need to rea some other posts to this list.



The Hepburn wrote:

> > The hills are as stated. When you have to go into the mountains you
> > will find WORSE hills than what I quoted.
>
> > I actually mean 60 deg from the horizontal, believe it or not?
>
> I can't think of any vehicle that can negotiate a 60 degree slope...
> let alone one that can tow a trailer up tat slope. Are some of the
> hills used for jeep hill climbs 60 percent, or are they more in the
> 45 percent range?
>
> ---
>
> Alan Hepburn | |
> National Semiconductor | Proud to be part of the |
> Santa Clara, Ca | Vast Right Wing Conspiracy |
> alanh galaxy.nsc.com | |
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:11:15 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FW: head restraints in the 99's

Actually it used to be. They used to provide build sheets
(I have one and so do many of our discussion group members)
and other research information. They took their address
of the Ford web site after getting flooded with emails (easy
thing to do with millions of customers). I guess its too
expensive to deal with all the email.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts (not affiliated with Ford Motor
Corporation)

http://www.ford-trucks.com


At 07:06 AM 3/23/98 -0800, you wrote:
>It appears this "service" might not be up and running yet.
>
>rich
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:CAC [SMTP:cacinfo ford.com]
>Sent:Monday, March 23, 1998 6:29 AM
>To:Rich Cower
>Subject:Re: head restraints in the 99's
>
>Hello Rich Cower,
>
>We have received your e-mail. At this time we are not equipped to
>answer questions via the internet.
>
>However, please contact our Customer Assistance Center toll-free at
>1-800-392-3673 (FORD) or write to us at:
>
> Ford Motor Company
> Customer Assistance Center
> 300 Renaissance Center
> P.O. Box 43360
> Detroit MI 48243
>
>Thank you for contacting Ford.
>
>
>
>Rich Cower wrote:
>>
>> We have a 97 F350 4wd, crew cab. We traded in our 89 F350 crew cab when
the kids got big enough
>> that their heads extended above the seat back - it had no restraints and
the 97 does. We considered this
>> a very important feature as it could prevent serious head and neck
injury in the event of a rear end
>> collison.
>>
>> We've ordered a 99 F350 DRW, 4WD, Powerstroke, Lariat, crew cab - and
the dealer is saying it does not come with head
>> restraints on the rear seat. I'm considering canceling the order. I like
Ford trucks, I've driven them all my life and
>> I believe they offer great value for the dollar but I won't put my kids
in a vehicle that is inherently unsafe. I'm also
>> talking to various after market seat shops to see if they can build me a
seat that offers some protection.
>>
>> Will Ford offer a rear seat with head restraints in the crew cab? Will a
97 crew cab rear seat fit the 99? This is
>> another option I've considered - I could easily order that seat thru
Ford. I've been told
>> by my dealer that an LE package will be offered later this year - will
the rear seats have restraints? and
>> will the rear seat offer middle seating (we often put a baby in a car
seat there).
>>
>> The 99 Crew Cab is a great truck - but dropping the restraints - and not
offering them at all is not good marketing.
>> Others I've spoken with on this subject agree - and they range from
dealers to customers whom I've
>> exchanged email with on the Internet.
>>
>> Thanks for helping me with these questions - rich cower 916-652-6623
>
>+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer --------------+
>| Send posts to fordtrucks97up listservice.net, |
>| List removal instructions on the website. |
>+----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+
>

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:50:25 -0500
From: Jim Clementz
Subject: F150 - F250LD Diesel Option

I saw something interresting in the local paper on Friday. There was a
article in the automotive section that Ford is negotiating with Navistar
to offer 6 cylinder diesel engine options in the light duty trucks in
the next few months. Has anyone here seen or heard about this - perhaps
one of you that is at a dealer? I can only hope......

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:24:18 -0600
From: "Jeff Schapker"
Subject: Ordering 1999 S.D.

I am ready to order this truck and the best price I could come up with is
$34,781. Is this a fair price?
I would like the groups opinion.
Thank You,
Jeff


F350 SUPER DUTY CREW CAB 4WD 172" W.B.
W33 Lariat Crew Cab (DRW) 26409.00 30340.00
Destination Charge 640.00 640.00
99F V8, 444", Turbo Diesel (7.3 Liter) DRW Models w/Camper Pkg.-532, Snow
Plow Pkg.-86M or Trailer Towing Pkg.-531 3396.00 3995.00
44E Automatic, 4-Speed w/Overdrive 824.00 970.00
628A Preferred Equipment Pkg.* Lariat DRW 1285.00 1510.00
*NOTE: Prices Shown are Actual Net Prices Which Include a Discount of
$1194.00 Wholesale & $1405.00 Retail (SRW) & $1283.00 Wholesale & $1510.00
Retail (DRW).
47Z Ambulance Prep Pkg. Not Required N/C N/C
532 Camper Pkg.
4WD Models w/Trailer Towing Pkg.-531 174.00 205.00
55R Off-Road Pkg. 4WD Models 107.00 125.00
531 Trailer Towing Pkg. DRW Models 182.00 215.00
54Y Mirrors, Dual Power Trailer Tow XLT, Lariat 132.00 155.00
XF2 Axle, 4.10 Ratio Limited Slip
DRW Models 221.00 260.00
768 Bumper, Chrome Rear Step XLT, Lariat 128.00 150.00
166 Carpet Delete XLT, Lariat -43.00 -50.00
954 Paint, Lower Two-Tone XLT, Lariat 162.00 190.00
58K Radio, AM/FM Stereo w/CD & Cassette XLT, Lariat 162.00 190.00
8* Seat, Leather Split Bench Lariat N/C N/C
86R Trailer Hitch Receiver, Class IV 128.00 150.00
213 Transfer Case, Electric Shift-On-The-Fly 128.00 150.00
TIRES--MODELS W/DUAL REAR WHEELS
T3N (6) LT235/85R16E All Terrain BSW 132.00 155.00
515 Spare Tire & Wheel
Models w/Tires-T3N 251.00 295.00
EXTERIOR COLORS
Z1/BM White, Oxford/Tan, Light Prairie Metallic Lariat N/C N/C
INTERIOR COLOR
*X Tan, Medium Prairie N/C N/C

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:19:58 EST
From: BigFords1
Subject: Re: F150 - F250LD Diesel Option

I haven't heard anything about the 6 cylinder Diesels, but have thought many
times Ford should give the option in the light duties.

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:27:44 EST
From: BigFords1
Subject: Ford Tech

Is Ford developing, or planning on, a vehicle to challenge the Hummer? Ford
needs to step up and make a strictly off-road beast Ford style. If anyone has
any info or suggestions to Ford don't be shy.

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:33:58 EST
From: BigFords1
Subject: Re: Ordering 1999 S.D.

Jeff, if i had the money I would buy this truck the first chance i got!

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:11:49 -0600
From: "Carol A. Ziel"
Subject: 50th Anniversary Blanket

I have seen a 50th Anniversary Blanket that someone was sent after....


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