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Return-Path: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 04:52:48 -0700 (MST) From: owner-fordtrucks97up-digest To: fordtrucks97up-digest Subject: fordtrucks97up-digest V1 #32 Reply-To: fordtrucks97up Sender: owner-fordtrucks97up-digest fordtrucks97up-digest Sunday, March 22 1998 Volume 01 : Number 032 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 And Newer Trucks Digest Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: fordtrucks97up-digest-request with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. For help, send email to the same address with the word "help" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: What engine/axle combo for my application? [MRoadarDOJ Re: Biggest Ford Engine [John941 ] Re: What engine/axle combo for my application? [John941 ] F-series LD delivery dates ["Union Auto" ] Re: Biggest Ford Engine [BigFords1 ] Re: What engine/axle combo for my application? ["." Ford V-10 vs. Dodge V-10 [BigFords1 ] Re: Ford V-10 vs. Dodge V-10 [BigFords1 ] Super Duty Options ["Eric Elliott" ] [none] ["Eric Elliott" ] [none] ["Eric Elliott" ] Re: Super Duty Options [Ken Payne ] ADMIN: Microsoft Email products [Ken Payne ] ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:34:05 EST From: MRoadarDOJ Subject: What engine/axle combo for my application? I'm getting ready to buy a new F-350 Superduty Crewcab. It will be used to pull a light bassboat whenever I can get a free weekend, it will occasionally have a slide-in camper on it (camper weight approx 3,000 lbs), I expect to take the family on cross-country vacations from time to time in it (hence the preference for the crewcab rather than the extended cab) and I'll use it to make that short daily commute to work a little more enjoyable by traveling in true Ford style. I plan to order the automatic transmission and single-rear-wheel. As I understand it, you can get a 5.4L V-8, a 6.8L V-10 or a 7.3L diesel and axle options are 3.73, 4.10 and 4.30. I'm not inclined to go the diesel route because it seems like that would be overkill (not to mention that it is one expensive option although the fuel economy might make up the difference after 150,000 miles or so). Also, I test drove the diesel last week and though it was quieter than last year's models, it was still pretty noisy. Any suggestions on which engine/axle combination makes the most sense and would provide the best compromise between enough power for my application and reasonable fuel economy? And does anyone have any real-world experience with these gas engines that could comment on the fuel economy you get? (Please mention what axle you are running.) Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:48:19 EST From: John941 Subject: Re: Biggest Ford Engine The 7.3L is the biggest-in fact it is the biggest of any light truck-60 more ft/lbs of torque greater then Dodge John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:52:09 EST From: John941 Subject: Re: What engine/axle combo for my application? You certainly do not need more then the 3.73 rear end( you can pull over 13,000LBS with the 3.73 and the diesel) and the smaller V8. But if you ever decide to tow something large, you could never beat the 7.3L diesel-500 F ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 07:31:09 -0600 From: "Union Auto" Subject: F-series LD delivery dates F-150s and F-250LD are very easy to get. It takes us about 4-6 weeks to get one from the day ordered. The 5.4L is still a little hard to get (not on sold orders but for stock). The sales have slowed slightly by people waiting for 4 door supercabs this fall. Nathan Bernard Union Auto, Inc. - -----Original Message----- From: Mike Williams To: fordtrucks97up Date: Friday, March 20, 1998 6:28 PM Subject: Re: deliv dates >I ordered an F150 on Jan 24 and it was delivered to the dealer Feb 18. >Don't know if it makes a difference but I ordered from a very large dealer. > >Mike > >+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer --------------+ >| Send posts to fordtrucks97up >| List removal instructions on the website. | >+----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:32:40 EST From: BigFords1 Subject: Re: Biggest Ford Engine I think there is a 7.5 liter Power Stroke diesel. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 08:43:41 -0800 From: "." Subject: Re: What engine/axle combo for my application? Ford diesel "glow plug" modules have a habit of crapping out. You need to get more info on the glow plugs. I kow of three friends who have the same problem. None of them fixed the problem but started using diesel fluid. A gas job has MORE power . I had a GMC, 3/4 ton 350 long bed with a fully loaded 8 foot cab over camper, and a 24 ft cuddy cabbin boat with twin volvo I/O's on it . With the camper and boat I had no problems whatsoever pulling a hill at about 60 deg up angle or more. Include a family and all the other STUFF that goes with a family, camper, and boat. Gas, Water, dishes, dog, etc etc Yo MRoadarDOJ wrote: > I'm getting ready to buy a new F-350 Superduty Crewcab. It will be used to > pull a light bassboat whenever I can get a free weekend, it will occasionally > have a slide-in camper on it (camper weight approx 3,000 lbs), I expect to > take the family on cross-country vacations from time to time in it (hence the > preference for the crewcab rather than the extended cab) and I'll use it to > make that short daily commute to work a little more enjoyable by traveling in > true Ford style. > > I plan to order the automatic transmission and single-rear-wheel. As I > understand it, you can get a 5.4L V-8, a 6.8L V-10 or a 7.3L diesel and axle > options are 3.73, 4.10 and 4.30. I'm not inclined to go the diesel route > because it seems like that would be overkill (not to mention that it is one > expensive option although the fuel economy might make up the difference after > 150,000 miles or so). Also, I test drove the diesel last week and though it > was quieter than last year's models, it was still pretty noisy. > > Any suggestions on which engine/axle combination makes the most sense and > would provide the best compromise between enough power for my application and > reasonable fuel economy? And does anyone have any real-world experience with > these gas engines that could comment on the fuel economy you get? (Please > mention what axle you are running.) Any advice or suggestions would be > greatly appreciated! Thanks! > +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer --------------+ > | Se ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:51:46 EST From: BigFords1 Subject: Ford V-10 vs. Dodge V-10 I recently read about these two engines in "TRUCK TREND" magazine. The Ford V-10 is a 6.8 liter that has higher output per liter. But the thirsty Dodge V-10 8.0 liter ( a whole 1.2 liters more than Ford) has more horsepower and torque. What this means is, if Ford's V-10 was 8.0 liters it would have a lot more horsepower, torque and still get better mileage than the Dodge V-10. David Questions/comments? please reply. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:17:47 EST From: BigFords1 Subject: Re: Ford V-10 vs. Dodge V-10 I read that the Dodge V-10 (8.0)has the most displacement, what does that mean? And the Chevy 7.4 (454) liter is in second. The Dodge V-10 produces 300 horsepower and 450 lb-ft of torque( compared to 410 lb-ft Ford V-10) But i read that only The 7.5 (maybe a typo 7.3) Power Stroke turbodiesel offers more torque, 500 lb-ft of torque the 454 a challenge to the Stroker? David Questions/comments? Please reply. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:49:23 -0600 From: "Eric Elliott" Subject: Super Duty Options How can I contact Ford about vehicle options, design and marketing information? I was not happy to find that my 98 F250 Lite Duty Lariat does not include some options that are in my 97 Explorer XLT. The available information did not specify whether of not the bucket seats would include power lumbar. I miss the exterior thermometer, remote and eyeglass storage in the overhead console all of which are in the XLT Explorer, but not the Lariat F250LD. I would like to let Ford know about this. How can I contact one who cares? Eric ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:26:27 -0600 From: "Eric Elliott" Subject: [none] Hello, If Ford had made the F250SD with a front drive like my F250LD has, a F250SD 7.3 would be in my driveway now. My F250LD is fine with the 5.4, but I wanted a 7.3 and wasn't able to stomach front tires tilting like 1963 VW rears. The F250LD has a frame mounted gearset, 2 half shafts, 4 CV joints and torsion bars. It rides fine. The same system that did 186K miles in my GMC K1500 without repair. The F250 is expected to do better. When will Ford put a proper front suspension on its heavy 4WD pickups? Don't tell me how great the swing arm (2 I beam) and 3 jointed rear axle were on the front of Fords. GM rode better and ate less tires on a single double A arm suspension than Ford did with 3 different suspensions on F150 thru F350 pickups. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:35:20 -0600 From: "Eric Elliott" Subject: [none] Hello, Ford offers a cabin air filter as a dealer option. Having driven 650 miles per day for 6 days in my 98 F250LD, I can advise that the filter reduces my allergy symptoms by at least 2/3. After a 650 mile day I don't feel dirty or sticky. $106 plus a half hour of my installation time. Installation needed small metric sockets, a sharp utility knife, small lite, mirror, file and patience. Using a knife with a mirror was interesting. The HVAC system need not be removed, just cut and filed to fit. Filter fits above front passenger toes. Cabin filters fit 97 & later F150, F250LD and Expeditions. Not available for a 97 Explorer. Don't know if it fits F250SD & up. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 16:17:34 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: Super Duty Options At 11:49 AM 3/21/98 -0600, you wrote: >How can I contact Ford about vehicle options, design and marketing >information? cacinfo ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:24:24 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: Microsoft Email products This message is going out to all the Ford Truck Enthusiasts email lists. Thanks to everyone who replied to my request for help. I wish I could personally thank all of you but there were many who replied. NOTE TO USERS OF MICROSOFT EMAIL PRODUCTS Microsoft products, by default, attach binary attachments to emails. Our list server is setup to reject these emails. To turn off these attachments: Outlook Express From the Tools menu, choose Options. Then click on the Mail Format tab. Make sure "Plain text" is selected. Exchange Go into the address book and select the address for the mailing list. Display the properties for the address entry and you should see a check box labeled "Always send to this recipient in Microsoft Exchange rich-text format". Make sure this check box is turned OFF. Internet Mail/Microsoft Inbox Go to options, then under the Send tab under Mail Sending format, make sure plain text is on and hit the settings key. From there select uuencode. Also, go to Tools then Services then Internet Mail. Then the General Tab, Message Format, uncheck "Use MIME". Internet Explorer In the Mail...Options menu on the Send tab there is a section called Mail Sending Format. Make sure the radio button for Plain text is selected and the Settings button has MIME unselected. Please do not ask the administrators for help with any of these products. They do not use Microsoft email software and cannot.... 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