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fordtrucks97up-digest Thursday, March 5 1998 Volume 01 : Number 017



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In this issue:

Re: Mileage ["Stanley D. Wainwright" ]
Re: Mileage [Kenn Robinette ]
Mileage [Wayne Shunamon ]
info please ["Jan Lane" ]
Re: info please [Robert Hill ]
Re: info please ["Dale A. Secord" ]
Re: Mileage [Ryan Gajeski ]
poor milage [kathryn phillips ]
ADMIN: Decision on advertising on the lists [Ken Payne
RE: poor milage ["Beaman, James" ]
Re: info please [Rod Loewen ]
Re: Mileage [Jim Clementz ]
ADMIN: Opinions/feedback on web site [Ken Payne ]

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 07:17:11 -0500
From: "Stanley D. Wainwright"
Subject: Re: Mileage

George,
I have a 98 F-150 Supercab, 2x4, 4.6 V8, 3.55
rear axle, and get 17 mpg city - 19 mpg highway.
Stan Wainwright

>>> "George Jeffers" 03/03
8:51 PM >>>
I have a 98 F-150 and am a little disappointed in
my mileage. Wondered if
anyone out there could let me know if they are
getting anything
significantly different.

98 F-150 Supercab
2X4
4.2 V6
Automatic
3.55 rear axel
15 mpg

I know I didn't get a Geo, but I did expect at
least 17-18.

George Jeffers

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 08:26:06 -0600
From: Kenn Robinette
Subject: Re: Mileage

I am about to buy a '98 F-150 and with regards to George's mileage, has anyone
else had the same experience with the 4.2 or (with that kind of mileage)
should one not opt for the V-8? Hhhmmm.

Kenn Robinette

George Jeffers wrote:

> I have a 98 F-150 and am a little disappointed in my mileage. Wondered if
> anyone out there could let me know if they are getting anything
> significantly different.
>
> 98 F-150 Supercab
> 2X4
> 4.2 V6
> Automatic
> 3.55 rear axel
> 15 mpg
>
> I know I didn't get a Geo, but I did expect at least 17-18.
>
> George Jeffers
>
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 08:54:56 -0600
From: Wayne Shunamon
Subject: Mileage

George, I have a 97 F-150 Supercab
2x4, 4.2 V6, Automatic
3.55 rear axel
Bought in June 1996
We got about 16 mpg the first 15 thousand miles or so.
Then it started to get better. In Oct 97 we went on a trip (3000 miles)
and got 19.8 all the way. Now ay 40,300 miles we are steadily getting
just a tick over 20 mpg. I think they get better with age.
Wayne Shunamon

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:58:33 -0600
From: "Jan Lane"
Subject: info please

Dear Members,

Has anyone had experience towing
a fifth wheel camper?

I own a '97 F250 shortbox Ford.
Interested in towing a 35' fifth wheel.

I would appreciate any info on the
ability of this truck to do so.

Thanks.....Rich

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 10:09:29 -0600
From: Robert Hill
Subject: Re: info please

I have a 97 F250 Supercab Short box and pull a 31 foot fifth wheel camper.
What specifically do you need to know? BTW, I think a 35' may be a little
much for that truck.

Bob

Jan Lane wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Has anyone had experience towing
> a fifth wheel camper?
>
> I own a '97 F250 shortbox Ford.
> Interested in towing a 35' fifth wheel.
>
> I would appreciate any info on the
> ability of this truck to do so.
>
> Thanks.....Rich
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:35:03 +0000
From: "Dale A. Secord"
Subject: Re: info please

From: "Jan Lane"
To: "fordtrucks97up"
Subject: info please
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:58:33 -0600
Reply-to: fordtrucks97up ListService.net

Dear Members,

Has anyone had experience towing
a fifth wheel camper?

I own a '97 F250 shortbox Ford.
Interested in towing a 35' fifth wheel.

I would appreciate any info on the
ability of this truck to do so.

Thanks.....Rich


Rich, you may be heading for trouble. Check the tow rating of the
F250 and compare against the GVW of the 5th wheel. Also consider any
payload weight, beyond the dry weight of the 5th wheel. You should
consider not only the ability to pull a 35' fifth wheel but the
ability to stop it coming down long steep grades.

You might want to post your question to rv-talk rvclub.com for
additional thoughts. This is an RV mail list.
Good Luck
Dale Secord
Sacramento

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:39:31 -0600 (CST)
From: Ryan Gajeski
Subject: Re: Mileage

I have the 95 351 v-8 and I still get about 18 miles to the gallon.
Everyone that I talk to with a v-6 seems to get not that great of milage.

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 17:32:45 -0500
From: kathryn phillips
Subject: poor milage

i am new to the list and i love it !!!!!!
i have a 98 f-150 x-cab v6 5 speed 3.55 gears 17-18 per gal. also
i believe it is the gears, my work truck is 97 reg. cab long bed
v6 auto loaded with elect. parts gets better milage than my wifes
truck only 2-3 miles but thats alot some times.
mike phillips

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 17:51:03 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Decision on advertising on the lists

I'd like to thank everyone for all the responses I've received
so far. I plan on putting them together into one text file,
posting them to the web and emailing the URL to the lists
this evening. The number of responses has been high and I don't
want to flood the lists with them. Everyone deserves to know the
opinions expressed so they will be on a web page (which won't
have any external links so your comments are kept private).

Although so far there hasn't been a landslide in either direction,
some very compelling reasons for not advertising have been brought
to my attention.

1. Where do I draw the line? If we open the door to this, what's
to stop me from putting an ad on the bottom of **each** post?
2. Doesn't this go against the charter? If we modify the charter
or ignore this portion of it doesn't it invalid the entire
reason for having one?
3. What happens if a user has problems with the advertiser? Can
he openly complain about it without fear of getting on my
"hit list?"
4. What happens if an advertiser has a problem with a user? Right
now, the advertisers know that web advertising is completely
unrelated to the lists.
5. Mailing lists have, for the most part, been the oasis free
from advertising on the Internet.
6 Can I remain unbiased? I would like to think so but I'm only human.

Since reading many opinions, especially those from long time members,
I would have a very difficult time looking members in the eye (virtually
and at the Pigeon Forge show) who have donated money to keep the lists
going. One person even sent $100 this past summer after we got our
(expensive) domain name.

I normally put things like this to a vote, but in this case I won't.
The principle of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" seems to apply.
The lists work, they work well and they certainly aren't broken.
I think that once you read the opinions you'll agree.

Ken Payne
Admin

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 17:10:22 -0600
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: RE: poor milage

Mike Phillips wrote:

> i am new to the list and i love it !!!!!!
> i have a 98 f-150 x-cab v6 5 speed 3.55 gears 17-18 per gal. also
> i believe it is the gears, my work truck is 97 reg. cab long bed
> v6 auto loaded with elect. parts gets better milage than my wifes
> truck only 2-3 miles but thats alot some times.
> mike phillips
>
Welcome to the list, Mike. I hate to post this to a new member but I
decided to let you know that posts with no capitalization where appropriate
and run on sentences are difficult to follow. There is another regular
poster on the list who neglects capitalization and every time I read one of
his posts, a little annoyance bell goes off in the back of my head even
though I appreciate his knowledge and contribution to the group. I think
posts such as these would carry more weight with me if they used correct
capitalization and punctuation. Just wanted to get that off my chest. I
have been debating about whether to mention this in the past and just chose
you as the poor soul to tee off on. I must be getting old for this to
bother me. Again, welcome.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 16:53:46 -0800
From: Rod Loewen
Subject: Re: info please

I pull a 32' 5th. wheel patio hauler with my 97 PSD 4X4 with 5spd. Also
a short box, which limits how far I can "jacknife". We usually run arond
10 to 12 tons depending on the toys we're hauling and the truck handles
great. Just go slow and easy down long hills. Average about 13 mpg
loaded.

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 20:54:52 -0500
From: Jim Clementz
Subject: Re: Mileage

George:

I too have a 98 F-150 extended cab with the 4.6L, Automatic and 3.55
gears in back. Most of my driving is around Virginia Beach where
everything is flat and the lights are
timed perfectly (hit them all red around here). I'm getting a very
steady 13.5mpg around
town and on one trip to Ohio got 17.5. So far, only put a K&N on it
(always use them)
but soon will be putting a Gibson cat back single 3" exhaust so I'll see
if it makes any
difference.

If gas gets expensive again, I'll get a 4 banger econobox for about a
grand. I never did
expect fuel economy out of this beast!

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 21:40:58 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Opinions/feedback on web site....

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