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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:51:52 -0700 (MST)
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Subject: fordtrucks97up-digest V1 #16
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fordtrucks97up-digest Wednesday, March 4 1998 Volume 01 : Number 016



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In this issue:

Re: fordtrucks97up-digest V1 #15 [Lee Haefele
Mileage ["George Jeffers" ]
Re: Mileage - George Jeffers [Rod Loewen ]
Re: fordtrucks97up-digest V1 #15 [Dale Ellis ]
ADMIN: Please read, very important [Ken Payne ]
Re: ADMIN: Please read, very important [Creator of Solomons Island on The]
Response: ADMIN: Please read, very important [Ken Payne

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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 07:11:06 -0500
From: Lee Haefele
Subject: Re: fordtrucks97up-digest V1 #15

Re:Super Duty
I have body builder's book for 99 model...Models with pick-up body, or
box removal option have much smaller frame than cab-chassis models, even
with the same GVW. If you need strong frame order the Cab-Chassis
model.
I have F-350 super cab, cab-chassis, V-10, 4x4, DRW on order, no build
date yet.
Lee Haefele

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:51:46 -0800
From: "George Jeffers"
Subject: Mileage

I have a 98 F-150 and am a little disappointed in my mileage. Wondered if
anyone out there could let me know if they are getting anything
significantly different.

98 F-150 Supercab
2X4
4.2 V6
Automatic
3.55 rear axel
15 mpg

I know I didn't get a Geo, but I did expect at least 17-18.

George Jeffers

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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 19:45:34 -0800
From: Rod Loewen
Subject: Re: Mileage - George Jeffers

We have a similar truck, not super cab that averages approx. 18 mpg.
That's Imperial gallon. Salesman said up to 28 but the best we've seen
is about 22. That's a rare exception. As low as 16. Great truck (my
wife's) for a "girly truck" Fun to drive but not as economical as we'd
hoped.

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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 20:44:10 -0700
From: Dale Ellis
Subject: Re: fordtrucks97up-digest V1 #15

Great stuff, Ken. I can attest to the Chevy's "reliability, since I have
owned my 1988 K1500 for 8 1/2 years. There is very little that hasn't been
replaced at least once.

I took delivery of my brand new 1997 F250 PSTD SuperCab yesterday. It was
the best deal I've ever had on a new truck -- dealers invoice, minus $1750
rebate, plus $259 D&H. I'm looking forward to many years of nearly
trouble-free use. Now if I can only sell the Chevy before something else
breaks. . .

Dale Ellis
Proud Ford Owner

At 04:51 AM 3/3/98 -0700, Ken Payne wrote:
>
>Someone emailed me a couple of funny Chevy/GMC definitions.
>Thought some of you might enjoy them.
>
>C heap
>H ardly
>E fflicent
> [trim]
>

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 00:27:59 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Please read, very important

I'm posting this email to ask for opinions on an issue. I will
respect the opinions of the list members regarding this matter,
just like I have with all other past votes. Your opinion, for
or against this issue will not hurt my feelings.

Anyways... the issue:

Last week, a vendor approached me (via email) and asked about
advertising in the digest version of the lists. The ads they
are requesting would not appear on the live lists but at the
top of each digest just below the table of contents. As an
example:

"
- --------------------- [ Sponsor's Message ] ------------------
Foobar Ford Performance Products is pleased to announce the
addition of new roller cams for 302 V8s. These cams, when
combined with Foobar's push-rods and valve trains offer higher
horsepower and torque.

For more information, visit Foobar at:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.foobar.com
When ordering, state you saw their sponsorship message for a
5% discount.
- -------------------------------------------------------------"

The ads, like the example, would be simple and to the point.
Neither would I personally promote the products.

I really need feedback on this. To post your opinions on the
matter, send an email to fordtrucks mindspring.com. I will
forward all the messages to the all the lists. Again, do
**NOT** send your opinions to the list, send them to
fordtrucks mindspring.com. I'm doing this so I can forward
the posts to all the lists since this affects all of them.
Your emails should appear on all the lists within 24 hours of
sending them. Also, when replying to opinions on this, send
the replies to: fordtrucks mindspring.com

If members feel this issue may be appropriate I'll put a voting
form on the web site. If the members are overwhelmingly against
it then it will not be voted on.

This would also mean that I would revise the charter to allow
this. Since the beginning, I've maintained that our lists would
be free from vendor influence. Its up to the list members to
decide if a sponsorship message of this type is considered
influence.

We're about to get more window stickers printed (we have 4 left)
and we'll soon get estimates for T-shirts so the advertising
money would help. However, we're aren't hurting either. Your
opinions concerning this matter are welcome.

Lastly, as an option on the voting form (if we end up needing one)
we could state that we would do a trial run to see how it works.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 00:26:59 -0500
From: Creator of Solomons Island on The Web
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Please read, very important

I think that if it will help pay for atleast the cost of the mailing
list, go for it!!
- --
James Howard
(The 15 Year Old!!)

Webmaster of Solomons Island on The Web
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://solomons.home.ml.org

We now do advertising.
Please check out http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://solomons.home.ml.org
and click on Advertising!!

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 00:49:20 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Response: ADMIN: Please read, very important

Posted by bgap RAPIDNET.COM on the 1980-1996 list, forwarded to the
others:
>Ken Payne wrote:
>>
>> I'm posting this email to ask for opinions on an issue. I will
>> respect the opinions of the list members regarding this matter,
>> just like I have with all other past votes. Your opinion, for
>> or against this issue will not hurt my feelings.
>>
>> Anyways... the issue:
>>
>> Last week, a vendor approached me (via email) and asked about
>> advertising in the digest version of the lists.
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