fordtrucks97up-digest Saturday, April 25 1998 Volume 01 : Number 063



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In this issue:

Question on hitch platforms [Doug Moore ]
RE: Question on hitch platforms ["Chad Royse" ]
99 F-250 V-10 ["Jim Spillman" ]
RE: Exhuast Update ["Stout, John Paul (MCI)"
Re: 4.6 v 5.4 V8? [Sven Setterdahl ]
Tritan V 10 comments?? [Rozndoc ]
Re:E-series van 4X4 conversion ["Dan & Pam Voss"
Truck Month ["Union Auto" ]
RE: Truck Month ["Chad Royse" ]
Re: Truck Month ["Union Auto" ]
Re: Truck Month ["Brian Holmgren" ]
Re: Truck Month ["Union Auto" ]
Bras ["Stout, John Paul (MCI)" ]
Re: Bras [John941 ]
Re: Truck Month ["Brian Holmgren" ]
Owner Loyalty incentive. ["Union Auto" ]

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:59:04 -0400
From: Doug Moore
Subject: Question on hitch platforms

I just received a 1998 Club Wagon. I order the van with the trailer option
and found out the hitch platform is not included. Not a big deal I hope.
What I was look for was advice on the different platforms and manufactures
that are available. Also the concern is the van has a step bumper and I
would like a platform that sits back as far as the back of the bumper if
possible. I have seen only one other van with a step bumper and a platform.
The platform was way under the van. I had the previous tow vehicle (Chevy)
that the platform was too far under the vehicle and it was a real hassle.
Any help would be great.

Thanks and regards

Doug Moore

Email: dougm ami.com

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:58:58 -0400
From: "Chad Royse"
Subject: RE: Question on hitch platforms

I guess you're talking about a receiver. With a club Wagon I would make
sure you got a class III, unless you just know that you'll never tow
anything relatively heavy. As far as the location goes, I don't think your
going to have much choice. Most are designed so that the frame of the
receiver is behind the bumper and the receptacle is typically flush or
slightly recessed from the outside edge of the bumper. I've had no
complaints with either Reese or Drawtite. Try going to
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hitch-web.com. I wasn't sure which exact van you had so I tried
a 98 E250 with a step bumper. This is what I got:

Reese had three for this configuration application. Each had the following
footnote: "Will not fit standard van with 2.25-75R16 spare tire." There was
one standard Class III/IV and two "High performance".

Drawtite had two models the MAX-E Loader and the MAX-FRAME. They each had
this footnote: "Vans equipped with factory step bumper require 12" long ball
mount/wt. dist. shank." That sounds like your original problem w/ the
Chevy.

And finally Putnam had one model. Their CJ series receiver. It had no
footnotes. I don't know if that's because it fits the way you want or
there's just a lack of information. I've never used a Putnam, but I have
never heard anyone talk bad about them either.

I've always just bought my receivers at my local parts store where they know
little to nothing about them (of course I already knew what I needed). I
would think that a specialty dealer like Hitch-Web could really help you
find what you need. They've got an 800 number on their site as well.

Good luck!
Chad

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-fordtrucks97up ListService.net
[mailto:owner-fordtrucks97up ListService.net]On Behalf Of Doug Moore
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 8:59 AM
To: 'fordtrucks97up listservice.net'
Subject: Question on hitch platforms



I just received a 1998 Club Wagon. I order the van with the trailer option
and found out the hitch platform is not included. Not a big deal I hope.
What I was look for was advice on the different platforms and manufactures
that are available. Also the concern is the van has a step bumper and I
would like a platform that sits back as far as the back of the bumper if
possible. I have seen only one other van with a step bumper and a platform.
The platform was way under the van. I had the previous tow vehicle (Chevy)
that the platform was too far under the vehicle and it was a real hassle.
Any help would be great.

Thanks and regards

Doug Moore

Email: dougm ami.com



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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:56:37 -0700
From: "Jim Spillman"
Subject: 99 F-250 V-10

I am considering buying a '99 F-250 S/D S/C LWB with a 6.8L V-10. Has
anyone had any experience towing with the V-10? What kind of milage are you
getting towing and alone? Do you have any comments on the new electronic
automatic transmission? The transmission (4EOD) was my only problem on my
'91 F-150 but I understand that the new (R100) is much improved and handles
up to 500 lbs. of torque. I would appreciate any comments on the 5.4L vs.
the 6.8L Triton engines.

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:52:28 -0600
From: "Stout, John Paul (MCI)"
Subject: RE: Exhuast Update

Hey Jason,

Did you go with the 2 Chamber or Three Chamber? What did it cost you, and
what kind of truck do you have? (i.e. Engine, Supercab or no, Flare or
Fleetside...)
Thanks for the answers man!

JP in Atlanta,
1998 F150 XLT Black & Tan Supercab, 4.6L, ORP, K&N, Chrome Westin Nurfs, Leer
100XL Cab High,
and a buttload of Attitude...


- -----Original Message-----
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:08:05 -0500
From: "Jason Hart"
Subject: Exhuast Update

I got a custom Flowmaster setup done yesterday. #1 - Go with something
different if you are not a NASCAR fan. This setup is LOUD at WOT. It has a
little deeper rumble at idle, and when shifting makes a really cool burbling
sound. It is really loud when you are romping on the gas. It did increase the
power a little too. How do I know? Seat of the pants. When pulling out of the
shop I punched it and it pushed the lumbar support in a little. Scared me at
first, it had never done that before I thought they broke the seat. Anyway it
is pretty cool. I plan on doing a full story on it, installation, part #'s,
photo's and sound files if anyone is interested. Lemme know. This setup sounds
tons meaner than the Gibson. We've beat the exhaust thing to death on the list
so if you have questions, please email me at jason dfwrealtors.com. Thanks.

Jason
Texas Ford!

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:44:10 -0500
From: Sven Setterdahl
Subject: Re: 4.6 v 5.4 V8?

I think I read someshere that the 5.4L is on hold for the F150s due to the need in
the Super Duties. Personally, I'd buy the Super Duty. It's base engine is the
5.4L, and without looking, I think they're a little more expensive, but not much.

Sven

> Subject: 4.6 v 5.4 V8?
>
> Hi,
>
> I am deciding on the F-150 I want to order and I would like to know
> which engine to get. I understand if your going tow or not and so forth.
> But what I want to know is for general use (like a little 4-wheeling)and
> you've got the 4.6 V8 did you wish you had gotten the 5.4 V8 or if you
> have the 5.4 V8 is it worth the extra?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:49:06 EDT
From: Rozndoc
Subject: Tritan V 10 comments??

About 6 weeks to go and my order goes in for a new F-350...Please comment on
your experiences with the new 6.8 V 10....Comments good or bad...lay it on
us Thanks. Doc

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:16:32 -0700
From: "Dan & Pam Voss"
Subject: Re:E-series van 4X4 conversion

I don't know about a web page for the cargo vans but Salem Kroger of Red
Bluff Ca. is doing the 4X4 conversion on my 1998 Tioga motorhome. It is a
factory option and they selected them to put the big straight axle under
the front. The motorhomes now use the Super Duty frame but their first unit
was on a F350 chassis. There is also a place in the mid-west I believe but
don't remember the name but found it using the "Dogpile" search engine.
Hope this helps.

Dan

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:58:41 -0400
> From: Rick
> Subject: The E-series - Vans
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Does anyone have a handy pointer to a web page that will tell
> me about the Ford E-series vans...just cargo vans, not the
> Club vans and so forth for non commercial use.
>
> I'm interested in the Powerstroke diesel and a 4WD conversion
> from one of the 'pass through' dealers. Don't know how to go
> about that part either, so if anyone has any experience to
> pass on I would appreciate it.
>
> Thanks
>
> ------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:27:04 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Truck Month

Look for specials on Trucks in the next few weeks. Truck month is
coming up and Ford is already starting the specials. We now have 0.9% APR
for 48 months on Rangers (and Taurus) and 3.9% APR for 60 months. Just this
morning I got a letter saying that starting Monday every Ranger and F-series
(including Super Duty) will get a free bedliner. This is a regional special
for dealers in the Kansas City region ( parts of Iowa, Missouri, Kansas).
If you are in another area you won't get this. There will probably get
another special of some sort though. Also if you are in another area when a
regional special is going on (there common we've had $1250 rebate on Ranger
4x4 where Chicago only has $1000) the rebates are paid buy your zip code.
So if you had a PO box in a town in the other district you would be eligible
for the incentives (hint, hint).
On a similar note, if your looking for a V-6 F-150 now is the time to
get one. Ford has lowered the price $500. This is due to a shortage of
V-8's and a overabundance of V-6's. We also have a bunch of regional
packages for XL's with the V-6. There is a Tutone paint with chrome wheels
and OWL 4x2 for $0 and a Sport package with painted bumpers (ala STX) 60/40
seat and chrome wheels and OWL tires XL 4x2, and a package of chrome wheels,
OWL tires (255's on 4x4) and a stripe package. These last two trucks are
usually cheaper than ordering one without these options. This is for Kansas
City region but I am sure every region has specials like this with the
engine shortages.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.
Union, IA 50258
unionaut adiis.net

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:48:10 -0400
From: "Chad Royse"
Subject: RE: Truck Month

Do these offers apply to orders already in, but not delivered yet? If so,
do they apply to orders from a 'buy back'?

Thanks for the wealth of information Nathan,
Chad

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-fordtrucks97up ListService.net
[mailto:owner-fordtrucks97up ListService.net]On Behalf Of Union Auto
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 1998 9:27 AM
To: fordtrucks97up ListService.net
Subject: Truck Month


Look for specials on Trucks in the next few weeks. Truck month is
coming up and Ford is already starting the specials. We now have 0.9% APR
for 48 months on Rangers (and Taurus) and 3.9% APR for 60 months. Just this
morning I got a letter saying that starting Monday every Ranger and F-series
(including Super Duty) will get a free bedliner. This is a regional special
for dealers in the Kansas City region ( parts of Iowa, Missouri, Kansas).
If you are in another area you won't get this. There will probably get
another special of some sort though. Also if you are in another area when a
regional special is going on (there common we've had $1250 rebate on Ranger
4x4 where Chicago only has $1000) the rebates are paid buy your zip code.
So if you had a PO box in a town in the other district you would be eligible
for the incentives (hint, hint).
On a similar note, if your looking for a V-6 F-150 now is the time to
get one. Ford has lowered the price $500. This is due to a shortage of
V-8's and a overabundance of V-6's. We also have a bunch of regional
packages for XL's with the V-6. There is a Tutone paint with chrome wheels
and OWL 4x2 for $0 and a Sport package with painted bumpers (ala STX) 60/40
seat and chrome wheels and OWL tires XL 4x2, and a package of chrome wheels,
OWL tires (255's on 4x4) and a stripe package. These last two trucks are
usually cheaper than ordering one without these options. This is for Kansas
City region but I am sure every region has specials like this with the
engine shortages.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.
Union, IA 50258
unionaut adiis.net

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:28:31 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: Truck Month

These offers apply to date of delivery. April 27 through July 10 on the
free bedliner. I do not know about buy backs, I've never had to deal with
one. You might ask though.

Nathan
- -----Original Message-----
From: Chad Royse
To: fordtrucks97up ListService.net
Date: Thursday, April 23, 1998 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: Truck Month


>Do these offers apply to orders already in, but not delivered yet? If so,
>do they apply to orders from a 'buy back'?
>
>Thanks for the wealth of information Nathan,
>Chad
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-fordtrucks97up ListService.net
>[mailto:owner-fordtrucks97up ListService.net]On Behalf Of Union Auto
>Sent: Thursday, April 23, 1998 9:27 AM
>To: fordtrucks97up ListService.net
>Subject: Truck Month
>
>
> Look for specials on Trucks in the next few weeks. Truck month is
>coming up and Ford is already starting the specials. We now have 0.9% APR
>for 48 months on Rangers (and Taurus) and 3.9% APR for 60 months. Just
this
>morning I got a letter saying that starting Monday every Ranger and
F-series
>(including Super Duty) will get a free bedliner. This is a regional
special
>for dealers in the Kansas City region ( parts of Iowa, Missouri, Kansas).
>If you are in another area you won't get this. There will probably get
>another special of some sort though. Also if you are in another area when
a
>regional special is going on (there common we've had $1250 rebate on Ranger
>4x4 where Chicago only has $1000) the rebates are paid buy your zip code.
>So if you had a PO box in a town in the other district you would be
eligible
>for the incentives (hint, hint).
> On a similar note, if your looking for a V-6 F-150 now is the time to
>get one. Ford has lowered the price $500. This is due to a shortage of
>V-8's and a overabundance of V-6's. We also have a bunch of regional
>packages for XL's with the V-6. There is a Tutone paint with chrome wheels
>and OWL 4x2 for $0 and a Sport package with painted bumpers (ala STX) 60/40
>seat and chrome wheels and OWL tires XL 4x2, and a package of chrome
wheels,
>OWL tires (255's on 4x4) and a stripe package. These last two trucks are
>usually cheaper than ordering one without these options. This is for
Kansas
>City region but I am sure every region has specials like this with the
>engine shortages.
>
>Nathan Bernard
>Union Auto, Inc.
>Union, IA 50258
>unionaut adiis.net

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:58:31 +0300
From: "Brian Holmgren"
Subject: Re: Truck Month

First of all, thanks for all the great information, if I'm ever in need of a
vehicle in your neck of the woods, I'll be sure to check you out. Is there
anyway that us non-dealer types can check out incentives besides going to
the dealer. I'm currently in Saudi Arabia, but should be going home to San
Antonio to a new F-250 Super Duty Lariat Supercab with V-10 on July 3rd.
Thanks!

Brian Holmgren
- -----Original Message-----
From: Union Auto
To: fordtrucks97up listservice.net
Date: Thursday, April 23, 1998 18:36
Subject: Re: Truck Month


>These offers apply to date of delivery. April 27 through July 10 on the
>free bedliner. I do not know about buy backs, I've never had to deal with
>one. You might ask though.
>
>Nathan
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chad Royse
>To: fordtrucks97up ListService.net
>Date: Thursday, April 23, 1998 8:55 AM
>Subject: RE: Truck Month
>
>
>>Do these offers apply to orders already in, but not delivered yet? If so,
>>do they apply to orders from a 'buy back'?
>>
>>Thanks for the wealth of information Nathan,
>>Chad
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-fordtrucks97up ListService.net
>>[mailto:owner-fordtrucks97up ListService.net]On Behalf Of Union Auto
>>Sent: Thursday, April 23, 1998 9:27 AM
>>To: fordtrucks97up ListService.net
>>Subject: Truck Month
>>
>>
>> Look for specials on Trucks in the next few weeks. Truck month is
>>coming up and Ford is already starting the specials. We now have 0.9% APR
>>for 48 months on Rangers (and Taurus) and 3.9% APR for 60 months. Just
>this
>>morning I got a letter saying that starting Monday every Ranger and
>F-series
>>(including Super Duty) will get a free bedliner. This is a regional
>special
>>for dealers in the Kansas City region ( parts of Iowa, Missouri, Kansas).
>>If you are in another area you won't get this. There will probably get
>>another special of some sort though. Also if you are in another area when
>a
>>regional special is going on (there common we've had $1250 rebate on
Ranger
>>4x4 where Chicago only has $1000) the rebates are paid buy your zip code.
>>So if you had a PO box in a town in the other district you would be
>eligible
>>for the incentives (hint, hint).
>> On a similar note, if your looking for a V-6 F-150 now is the time to
>>get one. Ford has lowered the price $500. This is due to a shortage of
>>V-8's and a overabundance of V-6's. We also have a bunch of regional
>>packages for XL's with the V-6. There is a Tutone paint with chrome
wheels
>>and OWL 4x2 for $0 and a Sport package with painted bumpers (ala STX)
60/40
>>seat and chrome wheels and OWL tires XL 4x2, and a package of chrome
>wheels,
>>OWL tires (255's on 4x4) and a stripe package. These last two trucks are
>>usually cheaper than ordering one without these options. This is for
>Kansas
>>City region but I am sure every region has specials like this with the
>>engine shortages.
>>
>>Nathan Bernard
>>Union Auto, Inc.
>>Union, IA 50258
>>unionaut adiis.net
>
>
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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:29:52 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: Truck Month

I don't know of any way other than through a dealer. You might e-mail Ford
or ask your dealer to see if there is a way. If you find out anything let me
know. I see your on a Air Force base. I just got out a year and a half
ago. What do you do? I was a 2E753 (Telephone).

Nathan

- -----Original Message-----
From: Brian Holmgren
To: fordtrucks97up listservice.net
Date: Thursday, April 23, 1998 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: Truck Month


>First of all, thanks for all the great information, if I'm ever in need of
a
>vehicle in your neck of the woods, I'll be sure to check you out. Is there
>anyway that us non-dealer types can check out incentives besides going to
>the dealer. I'm currently in Saudi Arabia, but should be going home to San
>Antonio to a new F-250 Super Duty Lariat Supercab with V-10 on July 3rd.
>Thanks!
>
>Brian Holmgren

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:54:44 -0600
From: "Stout, John Paul (MCI)"
Subject: Bras

Ok, I've seen a few trucks around town with the Bras on the front, and am
looking into them...

What do they run? How much of a pain are they to install, and do they cause any
problems when opening up the hood?

Thanks for putting up with me..

JP In Atlanta,
1998 F150 Supercab XLT, Black & Tan, K&N, Leer 100XL Top, Chrome Westin Nurfs.

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:48:49 EDT
From: John941
Subject: Re: Bras

from experience, if they are left on in a hot sun(tropical enviroment like
Florida) and they continually get wet and dry and the hot sun, they can
discolor the darker paints(like black and greens)
John
Key Largo,FL

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:17:20 +0300
From: "Brian Holmgren"
Subject: Re: Truck Month

Thanks, I'll let you know if I find out anything. I'm buying through AAFES
car sales, and I don't know if they can check into the delivery areas, but
I'll ask them. Ford's e-mail from their Web page is non-existant except for
their posed question, which is a shame. I'm the Civil Engineering
representative for this region. Hope your new career continues to work
well, I'l be starting again in another year.

Brian Holmgren
- -----Original Message-----
From: Union Auto
To: fordtrucks97up listservice.net
Date: Thursday, April 23, 1998 20:41
Subject: Re: Truck Month


> I don't know of any way other than through a dealer. You might e-mail
Ford
>or ask your dealer to see if there is a way. If you find out anything let
me
>know. I see your on a Air Force base. I just got out a year and a half
>ago. What do you do? I was a 2E753 (Telephone).
>
>Nathan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Brian Holmgren
>To: fordtrucks97up listservice.net
>Date: Thursday, April 23, 1998 11:13 AM
>Subject: Re: Truck Month
>
>
>>First of all, thanks for all the great information, if I'm ever in need of
>a
>>vehicle in your neck of the woods, I'll be sure to check you out. Is
there
>>anyway that us non-dealer types can check out incentives besides going to
>>the dealer. I'm currently in Saudi Arabia, but should be going home to
San
>>Antonio to a new F-250 Super Duty Lariat Supercab with V-10 on July 3rd.
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Brian Holmgren
>
>
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 11:32:44 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Owner Loyalty incentive.

Ford has just announce that starting next week they will start offering a
owner loyalty incentive. GM started this a few weeks ago so Ford matched
it. They will also honor GM's incentive. To qualify you have to have
purchased a new Ford Motor Company or GM product since 1986 and still have
it. To prove this you need either your purchase agreement, copy of title
showing you as first owner, or on Ford's it can be looked up on MORS III at....


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