fordtrucks97up-digest Thursday, April 16 1998 Volume 01 : Number 057



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In this issue:

Re: Order Priorities [Jerry Brammer ]
Re: Undercoating, and Paint sealant was 99 F350s ["Mike Smith"
Re: Order Priorities ["Union Auto" ]
Thanks - Nathan!!! [Jerry Brammer ]
97 F150 ABS ["rkbii" ]
Re: 97 F150 ABS [hunter cyberstreet.com (Michael Kisielewski)]
F150 OffRoad Package, what's in it? ["Ann Mitchell"
Re: F150 OffRoad Package, what's in it? ["Union Auto"
My New Web Site ["Wayne Wu" ]
Ford Maverick SUV ["Wayne Wu" ]
When should I order a SD if I want it in Sept? [Sven Setterdahl
99 has PROBLEM [Michael Ruth ]

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:25:09 -0700
From: Jerry Brammer
Subject: Re: Order Priorities

I have been hearing alot lately about various "Priorities" from people
having 99 Super Duty orders. Such as prioiry 10, 11, 13???

Does anyone know what these mean and what impact they really have on
delivery dates?

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:02:46 -0500
From: "Mike Smith"
Subject: Re: Undercoating, and Paint sealant was 99 F350s

>Mike Smith wrote:
>
>>I got the rust proofing,Paint sealent, and the interior stain protection
>>package for $515.
>>Will tell the all on wedensday night.
>
>
> I would like to comment on this stuff they sell at the high volume
>dealers. Rust proofing consists of spraying the underneath of the truck
>with tar. You have at maximum $50 in materials involved. Paint sealant is
>just a wax that includes Teflon ($15 a bottle). Interior stain protection,
>you got it, Scotch Guard. This costs about $5 a bottle and 1 will do a
>couple of trucks. So you just paid $515 for $70 worth of materials. This
is
>why it is much better to buy at a smaller dealer who won't cheat you on
>things like this.
>
Nathan, Et Al..

This truck IS being bought from a small town dealer that i have been
doing buisness
with since we bought our '84 Mustang SVO . They have alwayse treated us
fair. This is the
reason that we went back to this dealer when it came time to replace our 89
Taurus SHO
that has 240,000 miles on the clock. I have dealt with the 2 Ford
dealerships that are in town,
and will do so only when needed. I aplaud you on your award from Ford as
this shows that
you will put the customer first. The small "country" dealer has to work
harder to get the city customer,
but once there, they will keep coming back in the future.
thud, I am off of the soap box and donning the flame proof gear.

Mike

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:34:28 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: Order Priorities

The Priority code on an order reflects in what order a dealer wants things
built. They range from 10 to 99. A vehicle ordered as a priority 99 can't
be built by Ford. Anything else is buildable. Ford allocates a number of
vehicles to a dealer (Weekly for small dealers, Monthly for Large dealers).
Note this means you get a vehicle quicker from a small dealer than a large
one. If you have a allocation they build the lowest priority numbered unit
possible. If priority 10 had a option that they were out of they would skip
to 11. If you have multiple orders (they go by vehicle line) on the same
priority, they build retail orders before stock, and pick the oldest order
first. I order starting at 15 (so I've got room incase I need something
urgent) on Retail orders and Stock orders at 30. If another dealer orders
all his at 10 it does not give them any advantage over a 15 on my order
bank.

Also you might ocassionaly get a priority 01-09 which is set by Ford not
the dealer. This means for some reason this vehicle will get built really
soon (I had one retail order that didn't get scheduled for 8 moths due to
the shortage of Off Roads and it got bumped up. Thats the only time I've
seen it.)

So basically Priority codes affect scheduling within the dealership, not
scheduling between dealerships.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.
Union, IA 50258

- -----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Brammer
To: fordtrucks97up ListService.net
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: Order Priorities


>I have been hearing alot lately about various "Priorities" from people
>having 99 Super Duty orders. Such as prioiry 10, 11, 13???
>
>Does anyone know what these mean and what impact they really have on
>delivery dates?

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:51:34 -0700
From: Jerry Brammer
Subject: Thanks - Nathan!!!

Thanks Nathan, I have learned more about buying vehicles in the last
month through this list (and you guys at Union) than I have from any
other source. When one understands what is going on, it makes the
entire process more bearable. It is incredibly nerve wracking
experience especially when you think about the fact that your spending
$30,000!!

P.S. My son-in-law sells cars/trucks (Chevy).




Union Auto wrote:
>
> The Priority code on an order reflects in what order a dealer wants things
> built. They range from 10 to 99. A vehicle ordered as a priority 99 can't
> be built by Ford. Anything else is buildable. Ford allocates a number of
> vehicles to a dealer (Weekly for small dealers, Monthly for Large dealers).
> Note this means you get a vehicle quicker from a small dealer than a large
> one. If you have a allocation they build the lowest priority numbered unit
> possible. If priority 10 had a option that they were out of they would skip
> to 11. If you have multiple orders (they go by vehicle line) on the same
> priority, they build retail orders before stock, and pick the oldest order
> first. I order starting at 15 (so I've got room incase I need something
> urgent) on Retail orders and Stock orders at 30. If another dealer orders
> all his at 10 it does not give them any advantage over a 15 on my order
> bank.
>
> Also you might ocassionaly get a priority 01-09 which is set by Ford not
> the dealer. This means for some reason this vehicle will get built really
> soon (I had one retail order that didn't get scheduled for 8 moths due to
> the shortage of Off Roads and it got bumped up. Thats the only time I've
> seen it.)
>
> So basically Priority codes affect scheduling within the dealership, not
> scheduling between dealerships.
>
> Nathan Bernard
> Union Auto, Inc.
> Union, IA 50258
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Brammer
> To: fordtrucks97up ListService.net
> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 1:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Order Priorities
>
> >I have been hearing alot lately about various "Priorities" from people
> >having 99 Super Duty orders. Such as prioiry 10, 11, 13???
> >
> >Does anyone know what these mean and what impact they really have on
> >delivery dates?
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:03:21 -0500
From: "rkbii"
Subject: 97 F150 ABS

I have 97 F150 and when slowing down from above 50 miles an hour I start
getting a shutter effect from the ABS from 43 to 38 miles an hour. Is
there something wrong with my brakes? I noticed it around 12K and I now
have 22K and it seems to be getting worse. Is there a TSB or anything out
on it?

Thanks
Ron
rkbii entercomp.com

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:17:47 -0400
From: hunter cyberstreet.com (Michael Kisielewski)
Subject: Re: 97 F150 ABS

Ron,
Unless you're putting your foot to the floor the ABS shouldn't be
activating. The shuttering you are feeling may be coming from warped
rotors, although I would think you would feel it all of the time while
applying break pressure. I have already had to have my drivers side
rotor turned due to a groove forming right around the center of it, this
is with less than 4k miles on it. The dealer told me they checked the
brakes and could not find what caused it. Now here I am at 6k+ miles and
guess what's back? This time I will request the rotor be replaced
instead of turned again. Good luck.

Michael
hunter cyberstreet.com

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:16:47 -0400
From: "Ann Mitchell"
Subject: F150 OffRoad Package, what's in it?

I have a 1998 F150 supercab with limited slip 3.55 rear end, skid plates,
fog lights, heavy duty cooling and alternator, 16" cast aluminum wheels and
255/75/16 tires. My understanding is that the "OffRoad" package, that I
didn't buy because of the stickers, would have only added heavy duty shocks
(I can get after market nitrogen filled
and tires(try to find some 17" tires in aftermarket), and the stickers.
Does anyone know if there were other tweaks that weren't listed in the
package like suspension components(springs)? I like the plain look approach
to vehicles. It's what you do with what's under the hood that impresses me.

Steve

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:06:41 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: F150 OffRoad Package, what's in it?

Directly from the ordering guide.

55R Off Road Equipment Group
not available w/supercab 157" WB, 954 Lower Tutone paint, 4.2L engine,
203 Payload package #3, or 53C snow plow prep
Includes T5N P265/70Rx17SL OWL All-terrain tires (including spare), 17"
Cast aluminum wheels (with steel spare), Fog Lamps, Tachometer, Skid Plates
(Fuel tank, Transfer Case, and Frame front crossmember) HD Shock absorbers,
4x4 OFF ROAD decal (except Lariat), X19 3.55 Rear axle


As a note Lariats can have Tutone paint because they don't have the decal,
and early 1997 Models got aluminum spare wheels also.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ann Mitchell
To: fordtrucks97up listservice.net
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 5:25 PM
Subject: F150 OffRoad Package, what's in it?


>I have a 1998 F150 supercab with limited slip 3.55 rear end, skid plates,
>fog lights, heavy duty cooling and alternator, 16" cast aluminum wheels and
>255/75/16 tires. My understanding is that the "OffRoad" package, that I
>didn't buy because of the stickers, would have only added heavy duty shocks
>(I can get after market nitrogen filled
>and tires(try to find some 17" tires in aftermarket), and the stickers.
>Does anyone know if there were other tweaks that weren't listed in the
>package like suspension components(springs)? I like the plain look
approach
>to vehicles. It's what you do with what's under the hood that impresses
me.
>
>Steve

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:04:08 PDT
From: "Wayne Wu"
Subject: My New Web Site

Hello All,

Just to let you know that I have a new web site!

Some of you might not be interested. Its nothing about Ford Trucks but
it has info about the Falcon.

It here at:
href="http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/7152/">http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/7152/

thanks,
Wayne

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:12:53 PDT
From: "Wayne Wu"
Subject: Ford Maverick SUV

Hello All,

The Ford Maverick SUV is built in Spain by Nissan. It is basically a
rebabge of Nissan's Terrano II. Its only available in Europe!

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:35:10 -0500
From: Sven Setterdahl
Subject: When should I order a SD if I want it in Sept?

I'm planning on ordering an F250SD 4x4 reg. cab. I want to actually get it this
fall, Sept. or Oct. My question is when should I plan on ordering it? Will all
of the delivery problems be solved by this summer, or do I need to order it now
and hope it's slow, or can I place an order and specify an estimated delivery
date? I don't really want the truck until September at the earliest and I will
have to order it to get the configuation I want.

Thanks for any insight,

Sven

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:00:46 -0400
From: Michael Ruth
Subject: 99 has PROBLEM

HELP!
I love my 99 Superduty F350 Powerstroke SuperCab Lariat 4X4! I have a
problem though... When I accelerate with even alittle bit of more than
normal acceleration, I get a vibration and banging noise throughout the
whole truck! Sounds and feels BAD! Actually like S* T. I took it back
to the dealer. They say it's because of the two-piece drive shaft.
They called FORD (so they say) and there are no fixes in the works. My
friends 1997 SC Powerstroke XLT 4X4 doen't do this. I have had 4 new
FORDs dince 1989 and two Merkurs. They all have performed great!
Mileages range from 20k to 100k.
This truck is the most expensive of them all and I have waited for it
since October. I am only 27 years old and take pride in this truck and
this club, but I am really disappointed. I even have people giving me....


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