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fordtrucks97up-digest Wednesday, March 25 1998 Volume 01 : Number 035



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In this issue:

Re: Ordering 1999 S.D. [John941 ]
Re: Ford Tech [John941 ]
Re: Ordering 1999 SD [JDavis1277 ]
Re: Ordering 1999 S.D. [Jerry Brammer ]
Ford vs. Chevy [rarmstrong crest.srhs.k12.nj.us (rarmstrong)]
RE: Ford vs. Chevy ["Chad Royse" ]
Re: Ford Tech ["Mike Smith" ]
Lug Nut Torque on an aluminum wheeled F150? ["Ann Mitchell"
Ford Blanket ["Ron Blair" ]
head restraints on the crew cab seats - part 2 [Rich Cower
97 150 Concerns [Greg Ashton ]
Re: Lug Nut Torque on an aluminum wheeled F150? ["."

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:20:49 EST
From: John941
Subject: Re: Ordering 1999 S.D.

That price looks pretty good. I got a price of $34,178 for a siimilar equiped
250 that lsited fro a little over $38,000.
John

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:26:42 EST
From: John941
Subject: Re: Ford Tech

It is probably too limited market for Ford to tool up to make such a specialty
vehicle. That is the reason Ford never built a vehicle to challange the
Suburban. In the early 1990's and late 1980's there were only 100,000 or so
Suburbans sold a year. It was not worth Ford efforts to try to take 1/2 the
market of only 100,000 vehicles.

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:33:26 EST
From: JDavis1277
Subject: Re: Ordering 1999 SD

Check out www.isbellford.com/ for $99 under invoice deals.
Butch Davis-

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:26:13 -0800
From: Jerry Brammer
Subject: Re: Ordering 1999 S.D.

I didn't take the time to add up all your options, but I ordered my 1999
F-350 supercap 4X4 for $500 over invoice and had several dealers
offering to do same.





Jeff Schapker wrote:
>
> I am ready to order this truck and the best price I could come up with is
> $34,781. Is this a fair price?
> I would like the groups opinion.
> Thank You,
> Jeff
>
> F350 SUPER DUTY CREW CAB 4WD 172" W.B.
> W33 Lariat Crew Cab (DRW) 26409.00 30340.00
> Destination Charge 640.00 640.00
> 99F V8, 444", Turbo Diesel (7.3 Liter) DRW Models w/Camper Pkg.-532, Snow
> Plow Pkg.-86M or Trailer Towing Pkg.-531 3396.00 3995.00
> 44E Automatic, 4-Speed w/Overdrive 824.00 970.00
> 628A Preferred Equipment Pkg.* Lariat DRW 1285.00 1510.00
> *NOTE: Prices Shown are Actual Net Prices Which Include a Discount of
> $1194.00 Wholesale & $1405.00 Retail (SRW) & $1283.00 Wholesale & $1510.00
> Retail (DRW).
> 47Z Ambulance Prep Pkg. Not Required N/C N/C
> 532 Camper Pkg.
> 4WD Models w/Trailer Towing Pkg.-531 174.00 205.00
> 55R Off-Road Pkg. 4WD Models 107.00 125.00
> 531 Trailer Towing Pkg. DRW Models 182.00 215.00
> 54Y Mirrors, Dual Power Trailer Tow XLT, Lariat 132.00 155.00
> XF2 Axle, 4.10 Ratio Limited Slip
> DRW Models 221.00 260.00
> 768 Bumper, Chrome Rear Step XLT, Lariat 128.00 150.00
> 166 Carpet Delete XLT, Lariat -43.00 -50.00
> 954 Paint, Lower Two-Tone XLT, Lariat 162.00 190.00
> 58K Radio, AM/FM Stereo w/CD & Cassette XLT, Lariat 162.00 190.00
> 8* Seat, Leather Split Bench Lariat N/C N/C
> 86R Trailer Hitch Receiver, Class IV 128.00 150.00
> 213 Transfer Case, Electric Shift-On-The-Fly 128.00 150.00
> TIRES--MODELS W/DUAL REAR WHEELS
> T3N (6) LT235/85R16E All Terrain BSW 132.00 155.00
> 515 Spare Tire & Wheel
> Models w/Tires-T3N 251.00 295.00
> EXTERIOR COLORS
> Z1/BM White, Oxford/Tan, Light Prairie Metallic Lariat N/C N/C
> INTERIOR COLOR
> *X Tan, Medium Prairie N/C N/C
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:11:22 GMT
From: rarmstrong crest.srhs.k12.nj.us (rarmstrong)
Subject: Ford vs. Chevy

I feel that Ford are a step behind Chevy, but Ford is making strides with i=
ts new Triton v-10.

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:51:06 -0500
From: "Chad Royse"
Subject: RE: Ford vs. Chevy

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I have to ask why you would feel that way? Ford's engines are always more
advanced (more now than ever), they use better plastics and components,
interiors are considered more ergonomical, and are usually considered more
reliable. Am I bias? I'll tell you this... I am currently (as some who
have been here a while may remember) in the middle of lemoning out my 97
250HD. Yes it is VERY disappointing, but I am sure that this truck's
problems are the exception, not the rule. In case you're curious, my
biggest complaint is that it took 4 tries, 4 rear main seals, and a crank to
fix a rather bad oil leak (that dripped right on the y-pipe). No one I know
has ever had that problem with a brand new (Ford) truck.

Last thing, what's your interest in a truck you view as second rate?

Just curious,
Chad

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:19 -0600
From: "Mike Smith"
Subject: Re: Ford Tech

I was told by my friendly Ford dealer that Ford is planning to make a
"suburban" fighter based on the F350
SD truck chassis, We will have to wait and see.
Mike

ps. My 99 F250 went on the assembly line yesterday !!
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>Is Ford developing, or planning on, a vehicle to challenge the Hummer? Ford
>needs to step up and make a strictly off-road beast Ford style. If anyone
has
>any info or suggestions to Ford don't be shy.
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:46:11 -0500
From: "Ann Mitchell"
Subject: Lug Nut Torque on an aluminum wheeled F150?

What's the lug nut torque on a 1998 16" dia. aluminum wheel on an F150 4wd?
Can you believe that the owner's manual doesn't give this very basic
information? I have a 1992 Explorer and the owner's manual for that was
very informative for that type of information. The new F150 manual is void
of relevant technical information. It's great at describing the mind
numbing process of programming the windshield wipers to go variable speed
intermittent, and void of what torque to use when you rotate or have to
change a tire. Go figure.

Do any of you 1998 F150, 4wd, auto trani, supercab, styleside owners hear a
faint but constant sound that sounds like pinging whenever you go over
30mph? I am trying to isolate the noise. I know what true pinging sounds
like, but this seems to be wind dependent not throttle. The sound doesn't
seem to change pitch or speed when I accelerate but it definitely makes me
think the engine has a ping. Has anyone else experienced this?

Have you noticed how much sand gets packed under the doors on the F150?
I'll bet the door bottoms don't last too long with the salted sand we have
here in ME. Don't get me wrong, I'm just trying to figure out my new toy.
I thinks its a great truck. Strong engine (4.6L), nice looks, great
handling, nice truck. I'm not trying to bash it just figure it out.

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:58:41 -0500
From: "Ron Blair"
Subject: Ford Blanket

If you call 800-521-0639 and tell them you want the f-150 blanket, the cost
is $40.00 plus shipping.

Ron RBLAIR6531 EMAIL.MSN.COM


>Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:11:49 -0600
>From: "Carol A. Ziel"
>Subject: 50th Anniversary Blanket
>
>I have seen a 50th Anniversary Blanket that someone was sent after
>purchasing a 1998 Lariet Truck. I would like to purchase one for my
>father's birthday; however, we have had no luck with the area dealers
>knowing anything about it. Do any of you know where I might buy one? (It
>shows an old Ford Truck on it . . . kind of neat!)
>Thanks for any help you can give me.
>Carol
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:10:50 -0800
From: Rich Cower
Subject: head restraints on the crew cab seats - part 2

We called the 800 number too on this head restraint thing - no luck. The
"answer" we got was "we don't whythey were removed, we don't know if there
will be any change in the future" and what was absolutely amazing - is the
customer service representative - and her supervisor (Margaret - no last
names given) insist there is no other phone number or person you can talk
to at Ford Motor Company in North America about this problem.

She did say she would send Email to someone in marketing and let them know
about the head restraint issue.

I've cancelled my order on the 99 Super Duty (Crew Cab, DRW, 4X4). I think
it's a great truck - but as I've said before I won't put my children in a
vehicle that I believe is inherently unsafe - and the rear seat of these
trucks is unsafe in a rear end collison.

rich cower

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:22:24 -0500
From: Greg Ashton
Subject: 97 150 Concerns

To all 97 150 Super cab owners
I have a couple of concerns with my 97 150 Super cab 2wd 5 speed.
1. Rust on the back passenger side hub cap. I have aluminum Ford wheels
with a chrome hub cap in the center of the wheels. The hubs are turning
green in color and beginning to rust. The dealer says that Ford is going
to replace the exhaust system with a 98 exhaust which goes back behind
the rear wheel, therefore stopping exhaust fumes form going onto the
back wheel, therefore stopping the hub from rusting. Has anyone else
heard of this.
2. I have heard that Ford has had some problems with wheels falling off
some of their trucks because of incorrect torque. Has anyone heard of
this and if so does it include the 97 150 super cab 2wd.
3. I recall seeing optional head rests for the back seats of the 97 150
super cabs, but can not remember where. Does anyone know if you can get
them and where?

Thanks for your time folks.
From Ontario Canada

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:55:26 -0800
From: "."
Subject: Re: Lug Nut Torque on an aluminum wheeled F150?

Bash the thing all you want, you're paying for it :-)
I had to jack my rig upt tonight to check for wheel play. The jack had a
pamphlet in it'storage module that gave the torque. I believe that the torque
for the wheel nuts in my F-150, 4.6,4X2 is a range of 85-115 ft. blbs. You
need to check me on the figures though.


Wotsa Wuck


Ann Mitchell wrote:

> What's the lug nut torque on a 1998 16" dia. aluminum wheel on an F150 4wd?
> Can you believe that the owner's manual doesn't give this very basic
> information? I have a 1992 Explorer and the owner's manual for that was
> very informative for that type of information. The new F150 manual is void
> of relevant technical information. It's great at describing the mind
> numbing process of programming the windshield wipers to go variable speed
> intermittent, and void of what torque to use when you rotate or have to
> change a tire. Go figure.
>
> Do any of you 1998 F150, 4wd, auto trani, supercab, styleside owners hear a
> faint but constant sound that sounds like pinging whenever you go over
> 30mph? I am trying to isolate the noise. I know what true pinging sounds
> like, but this seems to be wind dependent not throttle. The sound doesn't
> seem to change pitch or speed when I accelerate but it definitely makes me....


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