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97up-list Digest Fri, 16 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 099

In This Issue:
Re: Wheel question
Muffler Question-for true duals
Rancho Shocks and blower problem
Re: Rancho Shocks and blower problem
Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
F350/F250 SD Brakes
Re: F250 SD Brakes
Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Re: Rancho Shocks and blower problem
Re: Brite Box
Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Re: Brite Box
Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Re: F350/F250 SD Brakes
Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Re: F350/F250 SD Brakes
Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Re: Muffler Question-for true duals

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From: "Jeff" prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Wheel question
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 05:56:18 -0400

Thanks Jean. I thought that it was kinda strange that Goodyear would skip the
255/70 size. I guess when the saleman looked in his computer, he must have been
looking at inventory and not what he can order (unless the 255/70 is a very
recent addition). Anyway, thanks again. I'm probably going to go with the 265/70
anyway. I think that the slightly wider tire looks better.

Thanks, Jeff


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From: "Christian B." hotmail.com>
Subject: Muffler Question-for true duals
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:13:28 EDT

Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there.
Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes. Well,
needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me to
drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just too
loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What mufflers
would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would give me
the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of back
pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but
some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before, I
can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve, JMC,
anyone, I need help.

TIA,
Chris
n VA
________________________________________________________________________


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From: "Clarke, Gary" per-se.com>
Subject: Rancho Shocks and blower problem
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 08:35:37 -0400

HI Gang, Two things;

Rancho rs9000 shocks, does any one know of a web site selling them for a
good price? Local store wants $66 each, buy 3 get one free, not bad, but
sure I could do better on the net.

Second issue, on a 99 F150, has anyone had their fan/blower on the MAX A/C
setting and had it intermittently make a noise because the air inlet/flow
gets shut off for a few seconds, then opens again?

I'd like to know if this is a known issue before I take it back to the
dealer for this, being that it's so intermittent.

TIF!

------------------------------

From: RSnovi aol.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 08:43:01 EDT
Subject: Re: Rancho Shocks and blower problem

In a message dated 6/16/00 8:35:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Gary.Clarke per-se.com writes:

they dont seem to list them on alot of the sites but just email some
different larger parts retailers and i am sure they can do better, I will be
putting some on in a month or so.

RS
<<
HI Gang, Two things;

Rancho rs9000 shocks, does any one know of a web site selling them for a
good price? Local store wants $66 each, buy 3 get one free, not bad, but
sure I could do better on the net.

Second issue, on a 99 F150, has anyone had their fan/blower on the MAX A/C
setting and had it intermittently make a noise because the air inlet/flow
gets shut off for a few seconds, then opens again?

I'd like to know if this is a known issue before I take it back to the
dealer for this, being that it's so intermittent.

TIF! >>

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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:40:53 -0400
From: Jean Marc Chartier sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals

"Christian B." wrote:
>
> Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there.
> Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes. Well,
> needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me to
> drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just too
> loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What mufflers
> would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would give me
> the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of back
> pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but
> some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before, I
> can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve, JMC,
> anyone, I need help.
>
> TIA,
> Chris
> n VA
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> >
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Chris,

Redwing cut his muffler out and inserted a glasspack where
the muffler was. Cost him about $25.00. I have a Borla but
they get pricey. Walker's dynomax series, or Flomaster come
to mind. A little more $$ will get you a Gibson or Jardeen.

Try the following; http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://borla.com/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dynomax.com/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.banzaisports.com/banzai/index.htm
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hedman.com/pages/hedmanmain.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.gibsonperformance.com/mufflers.html


Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

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From: "Scott Matus" hotmail.com>
Subject: F350/F250 SD Brakes
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 06:48:49 PDT

Glen --

I live in Colorado and do ZERO Towing, ok, Once ~ 50 Miles.

I have had my rotors machined by the dealer at 19,100 miles, it lasted until
24,000 miles. I now have 28,900 miles and will begin to set up an
appointment to have the rotors REPLACED this time. I also had an alignment
problem 9,000, which wore out a set of front tires. Those tires are not
cheap, heck nothing with this truck is cheap. I love it all the same.

I notice that this vibration most when the brakes are cool (just leaving
interstate after dozens of miles. My off ramp to Castle Rock (Exit 181 SB
off of I-25) has a steep ramp to a stop, so I have to brake hard. This
truck really does vibrate bad. I do not baby my truck but, I do push the
pedal quite hard. Aside from the occasional (OH, SH*t Stops) I am not heavy
on the brakes.

My truck has the "Hydro Boost" braking system. It actually is assisted by
the Hydralic pressure of the Power Steering pump. If that matters any.

Write me if you hjave any questions, I'd be glad to compare notes.

Scott.
________________________________________________________________________


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From: Dennis Kennedy roguewave.com>
Subject: Re: F250 SD Brakes
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 08:26:53 -0700

This is a pretty common problem. My truck is pretty much the same as yours
and this happened to me as well with about the same mileage. The dealer
turned my rotors at 18k miles and the vibration hasn't returned at 23k
miles. There is supposed to be an upgraded rotor and pad for the early '99s
that is supposed aleviate this problem. I believe the '99s built after 3/99
are supposed to already have the upgraded rotors. Mine was built in 4/99,
but maybe I got some of the bad leftover rotors. Check out the forums
section of http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford -diesel. com , as there has been much discussion of
this problem and you should be able to find the Technical Service Bulletin
number for the replacement rotors. As for the sales advisor, he is dead
wrong. The pads are warrantied for 12k miles, but the rotors have the 3
year, 36k mile warranty. If your dealer won't help you, I would complain to
Ford, and find another dealer.
Good luck,
Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: "Glen Novitsky" nashville.com>
Subject: F250 SD Brakes
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 20:29:37 -0500

Ok guys.. here goes.

*SNIP*
...'99 Power Stroke 250 ExtendedCab 4X4 LWB XLT...
I love the truck, however, I have had one problem that has now popped up
twice. With 15,000 miles (I've had it since new), the front brakes
developed a vibration.. At 18,000, the dealer put new brakes and rotors (or
so they say). Later, with 27,000 miles, the truck started vibrating again,
and today, at 28,800, the vibration is once again pretty strong. I would
claim that the dealer just shaved the rotors and charged Ford for new ones,
BUT since the first ones only lasted 15K before vibrating, I must ask, is
this a problem? I can't believe that such a heavy duty truck has such poor
brakes. I don't pull my boat very far, usually, as its about 5 miles to the
dock. I do tow it about 100 miles round trip every now and then with the
boat, and have taken it to VA on a 1,000 mile all interstate trip towing
also. The rest of the time its used to go back and forth to work
unloaded... What's the deal here? Ford fixed the rotors for free the first
time, but I remember the sales "advisor" telling me that they will fix the
rotors "ONCE" under warranty.. Any suggestions out there? Thanks. Glen
Novitsky....


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From: "Keith Veren" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:35:04 -0400

Flowmasters.

Keith


----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian B." hotmail.com>
To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:13 AM
Subject: [97up-list] Muffler Question-for true duals


> Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there.
> Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes. Well,
> needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me to
> drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just too
> loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What mufflers
> would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would give
me
> the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of
back
> pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but
> some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before, I
> can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve,
JMC,
> anyone, I need help.
>
> TIA,
> Chris
> n VA
> ________________________________________________________________________
> >
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:00:54 -0400
From: Jean Marc Chartier sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Rancho Shocks and blower problem

"Clarke, Gary" wrote:
>
> HI Gang, Two things;
>
> Rancho rs9000 shocks, does any one know of a web site selling them for a
> good price? Local store wants $66 each, buy 3 get one free, not bad, but
> sure I could do better on the net.
>
> Second issue, on a 99 F150, has anyone had their fan/blower on the MAX A/C
> setting and had it intermittently make a noise because the air inlet/flow
> gets shut off for a few seconds, then opens again?
>
> I'd like to know if this is a known issue before I take it back to the
> dealer for this, being that it's so intermittent.
>
> TIF!

Gary,

The A/C system is designed to go to defrost mode in the
event of a vacuum leak. You may be experiencing an
intermittent leak which is causing the system to default to
defrost and back again. BTW Max A/C just recirculated the
inside air and doesn't draw any outside Fresh air into the
cabin.

regards

Jean Marc Chartier

------------------------------

From: "Craig, Dennis" intel.com>
Subject: Re: Brite Box
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:05:51 -0700

I have seen this on my jeep too and assume my 99 SD does the same, but how
do you over ride the high beam setting to be the same as the "flash"
setting? The Flash is a momentary position.

dc

-----Original Message-----
From: RICK KANE [mailto:handgun netzero.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 6:19 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Brite Box


The flash position on my truck keeps the low beams on and lights up the
highballs.
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From: jmann living.com
Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:28:36 -0500

YES, Flowmasters are the way to go.

I run a single 70 Series SUV Performance Flowmaster on my 2000 F150 5.4
Lariat. It is a three chamber muffler and cruises nice and quietly. Little
if any cab resonance at cruising speed. But, comes to life when you step on
the gas. People will know you're there when you mat it. It has a 5 inch
casing that allows for great exhaust flow, yet providing just the right
about of back pressure. And yes almost all engines require back pressure to
operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines.

I believe they make a dual kit for your truck. But you'll have to check.
Call their Tech support. They are very helpful and knowledgeable. I run a
single muffler, but at I said, it's large and flowers well.

If you're running anything smaller than a 5.4 I wouldn't go for true duals.
And I wouldn't even really worry about it on a 5.4. You can get Flowmasters
with a single in and dual outs, like mine. You save a bit and the right
muffler will flow just as well as two.

www.flowmastermuffler.com

Joe
Austin, TX.

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Veren [mailto:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:35 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals

Flowmasters.

Keith


----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian B." hotmail.com>
To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:13 AM
Subject: [97up-list] Muffler Question-for true duals


> Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there.
> Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes. Well,
> needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me to
> drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just too
> loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What mufflers
> would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would give
me
> the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of
back
> pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but
> some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before, I
> can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve,
JMC,
> anyone, I need help.
>
> TIA,
> Chris
> n VA
> ________________________________________________________________________
> >
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From: George Rigney wsnelson.com>
Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:51:23 -0500

Why?

-----Original Message-----
From: jmann living.com [mailto:jmann living.com]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 11:29 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals


And yes almost all engines require back pressure to
operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines.




------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:50:05 -0700
From: johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: Brite Box



Craig, Dennis wrote:

> I have seen this on my jeep too and assume my 99 SD does the same, but how
> do you over ride the high beam setting to be the same as the "flash"
> setting? The Flash is a momentary position.

There is an aftermarket product called "the brite box". I know it's availble for
the
Ford SD trucks. Don't know if it is available for other vehicles.


------------------------------

From: jmann living.com
Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:02:11 -0500

Honestly, the Flowmaster techs will be able to better answer that question.

800-544-4761

Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: George Rigney [mailto:George.Rigney WSNelson.com]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 11:51 AM
To: '97up-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals

Why?

-----Original Message-----
From: jmann living.com [mailto:jmann living.com]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 11:29 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals


And yes almost all engines require back pressure to
operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines.



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From: "Runyon, Charlie" FTSCPAC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:55:43 -0700

Do you experience popping sounds from your flow master system? Mine does
when it's warming up and ever so often after. Then when I park, it makes
allot of noises.
Charlie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jmann living.com [SMTP:jmann living.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 6:29 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
>
> YES, Flowmasters are the way to go.
>
> I run a single 70 Series SUV Performance Flowmaster on my 2000 F150 5.4
> Lariat. It is a three chamber muffler and cruises nice and quietly. Little
> if any cab resonance at cruising speed. But, comes to life when you step
> on
> the gas. People will know you're there when you mat it. It has a 5 inch
> casing that allows for great exhaust flow, yet providing just the right
> about of back pressure. And yes almost all engines require back pressure
> to
> operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines.
>
> I believe they make a dual kit for your truck. But you'll have to check.
> Call their Tech support. They are very helpful and knowledgeable. I run a
> single muffler, but at I said, it's large and flowers well.
>
> If you're running anything smaller than a 5.4 I wouldn't go for true
> duals.
> And I wouldn't even really worry about it on a 5.4. You can get
> Flowmasters
> with a single in and dual outs, like mine. You save a bit and the right
> muffler will flow just as well as two.
>
> www.flowmastermuffler.com
>
> Joe
> Austin, TX.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Veren [mailto:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:35 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
>
> Flowmasters.
>
> Keith
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christian B." hotmail.com>
> To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; mindspring.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:13 AM
> Subject: [97up-list] Muffler Question-for true duals
>
>
> > Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there.
> > Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes.
> Well,
> > needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me
> to
> > drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just
> too
> > loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What
> mufflers
> > would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would
> give
> me
> > the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of
> back
> > pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but
> > some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before,
> I
> > can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve,
> JMC,
> > anyone, I need help.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Chris
> > n VA
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > > >
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From: jmann living.com
Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:16:53 -0500

I have recently experienced sounds from underneath the cab. But what I hear
sounds like water dripping from the AC on to an exhaust pipe. The Flowmaster
is under the bed and does not really make any noise. If the pipe is hot
enough, dripping water can make a popping sound. When water vaporizes it
expands 1000 times. If this happens instantaneously when hitting an
extremely hot surface like an exhaust pipe or cat, it will make a POPing
sound.

Try to locate, front of back, under the bed or under the cab, the sound you
are hearing.

Joe



-----Original Message-----
From: Runyon, Charlie [mailto:runyonc FTSCPAC.NAVY.MIL]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 1:56 PM
To: '97up-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals

Do you experience popping sounds from your flow master system? Mine does
when it's warming up and ever so often after. Then when I park, it makes
allot of noises.
Charlie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jmann living.com [SMTP:jmann living.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 6:29 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
>
> YES, Flowmasters are the way to go.
>
> I run a single 70 Series SUV Performance Flowmaster on my 2000 F150 5.4
> Lariat. It is a three chamber muffler and cruises nice and quietly. Little
> if any cab resonance at cruising speed. But, comes to life when you step
> on
> the gas. People will know you're there when you mat it. It has a 5 inch
> casing that allows for great exhaust flow, yet providing just the right
> about of back pressure. And yes almost all engines require back pressure
> to
> operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines.
>
> I believe they make a dual kit for your truck. But you'll have to check.
> Call their Tech support. They are very helpful and knowledgeable. I run a
> single muffler, but at I said, it's large and flowers well.
>
> If you're running anything smaller than a 5.4 I wouldn't go for true
> duals.
> And I wouldn't even really worry about it on a 5.4. You can get
> Flowmasters
> with a single in and dual outs, like mine. You save a bit and the right
> muffler will flow just as well as two.
>
> www.flowmastermuffler.com
>
> Joe
> Austin, TX.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Veren [mailto:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:35 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
>
> Flowmasters.
>
> Keith
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christian B." hotmail.com>
> To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; mindspring.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:13 AM
> Subject: [97up-list] Muffler Question-for true duals
>
>
> > Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there.
> > Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes.
> Well,
> > needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me
> to
> > drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just
> too
> > loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What
> mufflers
> > would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would
> give
> me
> > the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of
> back
> > pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but
> > some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before,
> I
> > can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve,
> JMC,
> > anyone, I need help.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Chris
> > n VA
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > > >
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From: "Keith Veren" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: F350/F250 SD Brakes
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:19:05 -0400

Try switching the two front tires, then specifically torquing them to the
correct specs. Just torque the rears correctly. Let me know.

Keith


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Matus" hotmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 9:48 AM
Subject: [97up-list] F350/F250 SD Brakes


> Glen --
>
> I live in Colorado and do ZERO Towing, ok, Once ~ 50 Miles.
>
> I have had my rotors machined by the dealer at 19,100 miles, it lasted
until
> 24,000 miles. I now have 28,900 miles and will begin to set up an
> appointment to have the rotors REPLACED this time. I also had an
alignment
> problem 9,000, which wore out a set of front tires. Those tires are not
> cheap, heck nothing with this truck is cheap. I love it all the same.
>
> I notice that this vibration most when the brakes are cool (just leaving
> interstate after dozens of miles. My off ramp to Castle Rock (Exit 181 SB
> off of I-25) has a steep ramp to a stop, so I have to brake hard. This
> truck really does vibrate bad. I do not baby my truck but, I do push the
> pedal quite hard. Aside from the occasional (OH, SH*t Stops) I am not
heavy
> on the brakes.
>
> My truck has the "Hydro Boost" braking system. It actually is assisted by
> the Hydralic pressure of the Power Steering pump. If that matters any.
>
> Write me if you hjave any questions, I'd be glad to compare notes.
>
> Scott.
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From: "Keith Veren" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:25:30 -0400

So the next fresh air/fuel charge is not sucked out into the intra-manifold
vacuum space left by the fast-leaving just-burned exhaust gases.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 12:51 PM
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals


> Why?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jmann living.com [mailto:jmann living.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 11:29 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
>
>
> And yes almost all engines require back pressure to
> operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines.
>
>
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From: George Rigney wsnelson.com>
Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:30:44 -0500

Dear Charlie,

Joe's right. You should confirm that your AC isn't dripping on hot metal.
On the other hand, the popping noises from metal that is cooling off or
heating up are normal. It's called "heat ticking" or something like that.
I remember my heat transfer professor droning on about it one afternoon,
something about shifting along grain boundaries. Anyway, the point is that
the popping noises are probably nothing to worry about, but I do remember
something about an AC dripping onto the exhaust line on this list a year
back or so. Anybody remember the details?

Regards,
George

1974 Gran Torino Elite 351W
1984 LTD Crown Victoria 302
1999 F250 SD CC V10

-----Original Message-----
From: jmann living.com [mailto:jmann living.com]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 2:17 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals


I have recently experienced sounds from underneath the cab. But what I hear
sounds like water dripping from the AC on to an exhaust pipe. The Flowmaster
is under the bed and does not really make any noise. If the pipe is hot
enough, dripping water can make a popping sound. When water vaporizes it
expands 1000 times. If this happens instantaneously when hitting an
extremely hot surface like an exhaust pipe or cat, it will make a POPing
sound.

Try to locate, front of back, under the bed or under the cab, the sound you
are hearing.

Joe



-----Original Message-----
From: Runyon, Charlie [mailto:runyonc FTSCPAC.NAVY.MIL]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 1:56 PM
To: '97up-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals

Do you experience popping sounds from your flow master system? Mine does
when it's warming up and ever so often after. Then when I park, it makes
allot of noises.
Charlie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jmann living.com [SMTP:jmann living.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 6:29 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
>
> YES, Flowmasters are the way to go.
>
> I run a single 70 Series SUV Performance Flowmaster on my 2000 F150 5.4
> Lariat. It is a three chamber muffler and cruises nice and quietly. Little
> if any cab resonance at cruising speed. But, comes to life when you step
> on
> the gas. People will know you're there when you mat it. It has a 5 inch
> casing that allows for great exhaust flow, yet providing just the right
> about of back pressure. And yes almost all engines require back pressure
> to
> operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines.
>
> I believe they make a dual kit for your truck. But you'll have to check.
> Call their Tech support. They are very helpful and knowledgeable. I run a
> single muffler, but at I said, it's large and flowers well.
>
> If you're running anything smaller than a 5.4 I wouldn't go for true
> duals.
> And I wouldn't even really worry about it on a 5.4. You can get
> Flowmasters
> with a single in and dual outs, like mine. You save a bit and the right
> muffler will flow just as well as two.
>
> www.flowmastermuffler.com
>
> Joe
> Austin, TX.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Veren [mailto:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:35 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
>
> Flowmasters.
>
> Keith
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christian B." hotmail.com>
> To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; mindspring.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:13 AM
> Subject: [97up-list] Muffler Question-for true duals
>
>
> > Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there.
> > Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes.
> Well,
> > needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me
> to
> > drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just
> too
> > loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What
> mufflers
> > would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would
> give
> me
> > the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of
> back
> > pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but
> > some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before,
> I
> > can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve,
> JMC,
> > anyone, I need help.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Chris
> > n VA
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From: George Rigney wsnelson.com>
Subject: Re: F350/F250 SD Brakes
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:31:36 -0500

What are the correct torque values?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 3:19 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] Re: F350/F250 SD Brakes


Try switching the two front tires, then specifically torquing them to the
correct specs. Just torque the rears correctly. Let me know.

Keith


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Matus" hotmail.com>
To: nashville.com>; <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 9:48 AM
Subject: [97up-list] F350/F250 SD Brakes


> Glen --
>
> I live in Colorado and do ZERO Towing, ok, Once ~ 50 Miles.
>
> I have had my rotors machined by the dealer at 19,100 miles, it lasted
until
> 24,000 miles. I now have 28,900 miles and will begin to set up an
> appointment to have the rotors REPLACED this time. I also had an
alignment
> problem 9,000, which wore out a set of front tires. Those tires are not
> cheap, heck nothing with this truck is cheap. I love it all the same.
>
> I notice that this vibration most when the brakes are cool (just leaving
> interstate after dozens of miles. My off ramp to Castle Rock (Exit 181 SB
> off of I-25) has a steep ramp to a stop, so I have to brake hard. This
> truck really does vibrate bad. I do not baby my truck but, I do push the
> pedal quite hard. Aside from the occasional (OH, SH*t Stops) I am not
heavy
> on the brakes.
>
> My truck has the "Hydro Boost" braking system. It actually is assisted by
> the Hydralic pressure of the Power Steering pump. If that matters any.
>
> Write me if you hjave any questions, I'd be glad to compare notes.
>
> Scott.
> ________________________________________________________________________
> >
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From: George Rigney wsnelson.com>
Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:29:36 -0500

Dear Keith,

This could only occur if the exhaust manifold were at a lower negative gauge
pressure than the cylinder during the brief space of time that both valves
are open and the piston is receding. The vacuum that the piston pulls
during this time will almost certainly be much stronger than the exhaust
manifold vacuum.

I've never designed a discharge line to be more restrictive so that a pump
will run better. I know that a SIIC engine isn't the same as a pump, and
I'm not disputing that there may be some advantage to having a certain
amount of back-pressure in an exhaust line, but I don't accept your
explanation.

Perhaps the answer has something to do with balancing the restriction in the
exhaust system with that of the intake system. Anyone?

Best Regards,
George

1974 Gran Torino Elite 351W
1984 LTD Crown Victoria 302
1999 F250 SD CC V10

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Veren [mailto:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 3:26 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals


So the next fresh air/fuel charge is not sucked out into the intra-manifold
vacuum space left by the fast-leaving just-burned exhaust gases.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: "George Rigney" WSNelson.com>
To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 12:51 PM
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals


> Why?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jmann living.com [mailto:jmann living.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 11:29 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
>
>
> And yes almost all engines require back pressure to
> operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines.
>
>
>
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From: "Keith Veren" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:37:23 -0400

My engineering friend tells me you are essentially correct; however, the
rapidly receding exhaust gases in a 4 tube header/manifold set-up "help"
each other race out of the system resulting in a quite low pressure just
beyond the exhaust valve that you want to be able to control with a little
known back pressure to balance the system. By the way, I am a Toxicologist,
I rely on my Professional Engineers for complex answers.

Keith

Anyway, Flowmasters are the ticket.



----- Original Message -----
From: "George Rigney" WSNelson.com>
To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 5:29 PM
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals


> Dear Keith,
>
> This could only occur if the exhaust manifold were at a lower negative
gauge
> pressure than the cylinder during the brief space of time that both valves
> are open and the piston is receding. The vacuum that the piston pulls
> during this time will almost certainly be much stronger than the exhaust
> manifold vacuum.
>
> I've never designed a discharge line to be more restrictive so that a pump
> will run better. I know that a SIIC engine isn't the same as a pump, and
> I'm not disputing that there may be some advantage to having a certain
> amount of back-pressure in an exhaust line, but I don't accept your
> explanation.
>
> Perhaps the answer has something to do with balancing the restriction in
the
> exhaust system with that of the intake system. Anyone?
>
> Best Regards,
> George
>
> 1974 Gran Torino Elite 351W
> 1984 LTD Crown Victoria 302
> 1999 F250 SD CC V10
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Veren [mailto:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 3:26 PM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals
>
>
> So the next fresh air/fuel charge is not sucked out into the
intra-manifold
> vacuum space left by the fast-leaving just-burned exhaust gases.
>
> Keith
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Rigney" WSNelson.com>....


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