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Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 97up-list Digest Fri, 16 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 099 In This Issue: Re: Wheel question Muffler Question-for true duals Rancho Shocks and blower problem Re: Rancho Shocks and blower problem Re: Muffler Question-for true duals F350/F250 SD Brakes Re: F250 SD Brakes Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Re: Rancho Shocks and blower problem Re: Brite Box Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Re: Brite Box Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Re: F350/F250 SD Brakes Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Re: F350/F250 SD Brakes Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Re: Muffler Question-for true duals ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff" Subject: Re: Wheel question Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 05:56:18 -0400 Thanks Jean. I thought that it was kinda strange that Goodyear would skip the 255/70 size. I guess when the saleman looked in his computer, he must have been looking at inventory and not what he can order (unless the 255/70 is a very recent addition). Anyway, thanks again. I'm probably going to go with the 265/70 anyway. I think that the slightly wider tire looks better. Thanks, Jeff ------------------------------ From: "Christian B." Subject: Muffler Question-for true duals Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:13:28 EDT Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there. Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes. Well, needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me to drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just too loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What mufflers would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would give me the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of back pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before, I can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve, JMC, anyone, I need help. TIA, Chris n VA ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Clarke, Gary" Subject: Rancho Shocks and blower problem Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 08:35:37 -0400 HI Gang, Two things; Rancho rs9000 shocks, does any one know of a web site selling them for a good price? Local store wants $66 each, buy 3 get one free, not bad, but sure I could do better on the net. Second issue, on a 99 F150, has anyone had their fan/blower on the MAX A/C setting and had it intermittently make a noise because the air inlet/flow gets shut off for a few seconds, then opens again? I'd like to know if this is a known issue before I take it back to the dealer for this, being that it's so intermittent. TIF! ------------------------------ From: RSnovi aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 08:43:01 EDT Subject: Re: Rancho Shocks and blower problem In a message dated 6/16/00 8:35:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Gary.Clarke per-se.com writes: they dont seem to list them on alot of the sites but just email some different larger parts retailers and i am sure they can do better, I will be putting some on in a month or so. RS << HI Gang, Two things; Rancho rs9000 shocks, does any one know of a web site selling them for a good price? Local store wants $66 each, buy 3 get one free, not bad, but sure I could do better on the net. Second issue, on a 99 F150, has anyone had their fan/blower on the MAX A/C setting and had it intermittently make a noise because the air inlet/flow gets shut off for a few seconds, then opens again? I'd like to know if this is a known issue before I take it back to the dealer for this, being that it's so intermittent. TIF! >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:40:53 -0400 From: Jean Marc Chartier Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals "Christian B." wrote: > > Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there. > Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes. Well, > needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me to > drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just too > loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What mufflers > would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would give me > the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of back > pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but > some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before, I > can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve, JMC, > anyone, I need help. > > TIA, > Chris > n VA > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. Chris, Redwing cut his muffler out and inserted a glasspack where the muffler was. Cost him about $25.00. I have a Borla but they get pricey. Walker's dynomax series, or Flomaster come to mind. A little more $$ will get you a Gibson or Jardeen. Try the following; http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://borla.com/ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dynomax.com/ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.banzaisports.com/banzai/index.htm http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hedman.com/pages/hedmanmain.html http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.gibsonperformance.com/mufflers.html Regards Jean Marc Chartier ------------------------------ From: "Scott Matus" Subject: F350/F250 SD Brakes Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 06:48:49 PDT Glen -- I live in Colorado and do ZERO Towing, ok, Once ~ 50 Miles. I have had my rotors machined by the dealer at 19,100 miles, it lasted until 24,000 miles. I now have 28,900 miles and will begin to set up an appointment to have the rotors REPLACED this time. I also had an alignment problem 9,000, which wore out a set of front tires. Those tires are not cheap, heck nothing with this truck is cheap. I love it all the same. I notice that this vibration most when the brakes are cool (just leaving interstate after dozens of miles. My off ramp to Castle Rock (Exit 181 SB off of I-25) has a steep ramp to a stop, so I have to brake hard. This truck really does vibrate bad. I do not baby my truck but, I do push the pedal quite hard. Aside from the occasional (OH, SH*t Stops) I am not heavy on the brakes. My truck has the "Hydro Boost" braking system. It actually is assisted by the Hydralic pressure of the Power Steering pump. If that matters any. Write me if you hjave any questions, I'd be glad to compare notes. Scott. ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: Dennis Kennedy Subject: Re: F250 SD Brakes Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 08:26:53 -0700 This is a pretty common problem. My truck is pretty much the same as yours and this happened to me as well with about the same mileage. The dealer turned my rotors at 18k miles and the vibration hasn't returned at 23k miles. There is supposed to be an upgraded rotor and pad for the early '99s that is supposed aleviate this problem. I believe the '99s built after 3/99 are supposed to already have the upgraded rotors. Mine was built in 4/99, but maybe I got some of the bad leftover rotors. Check out the forums section of http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford -diesel.  com , as there has been much discussion of this problem and you should be able to find the Technical Service Bulletin number for the replacement rotors. As for the sales advisor, he is dead wrong. The pads are warrantied for 12k miles, but the rotors have the 3 year, 36k mile warranty. If your dealer won't help you, I would complain to Ford, and find another dealer. Good luck, Dennis -----Original Message----- From: "Glen Novitsky" Subject: F250 SD Brakes Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 20:29:37 -0500 Ok guys.. here goes. *SNIP* ...'99 Power Stroke 250 ExtendedCab 4X4 LWB XLT... I love the truck, however, I have had one problem that has now popped up twice. With 15,000 miles (I've had it since new), the front brakes developed a vibration.. At 18,000, the dealer put new brakes and rotors (or so they say). Later, with 27,000 miles, the truck started vibrating again, and today, at 28,800, the vibration is once again pretty strong. I would claim that the dealer just shaved the rotors and charged Ford for new ones, BUT since the first ones only lasted 15K before vibrating, I must ask, is this a problem? I can't believe that such a heavy duty truck has such poor brakes. I don't pull my boat very far, usually, as its about 5 miles to the dock. I do tow it about 100 miles round trip every now and then with the boat, and have taken it to VA on a 1,000 mile all interstate trip towing also. The rest of the time its used to go back and forth to work unloaded... What's the deal here? Ford fixed the rotors for free the first time, but I remember the sales "advisor" telling me that they will fix the rotors "ONCE" under warranty.. Any suggestions out there? Thanks. Glen Novitsky.... ------------------------------ From: "Keith Veren" Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:35:04 -0400 Flowmasters. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian B." To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:13 AM Subject: [97up-list] Muffler Question-for true duals > Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there. > Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes. Well, > needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me to > drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just too > loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What mufflers > would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would give me > the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of back > pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but > some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before, I > can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve, JMC, > anyone, I need help. > > TIA, > Chris > n VA > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:00:54 -0400 From: Jean Marc Chartier Subject: Re: Rancho Shocks and blower problem "Clarke, Gary" wrote: > > HI Gang, Two things; > > Rancho rs9000 shocks, does any one know of a web site selling them for a > good price? Local store wants $66 each, buy 3 get one free, not bad, but > sure I could do better on the net. > > Second issue, on a 99 F150, has anyone had their fan/blower on the MAX A/C > setting and had it intermittently make a noise because the air inlet/flow > gets shut off for a few seconds, then opens again? > > I'd like to know if this is a known issue before I take it back to the > dealer for this, being that it's so intermittent. > > TIF! Gary, The A/C system is designed to go to defrost mode in the event of a vacuum leak. You may be experiencing an intermittent leak which is causing the system to default to defrost and back again. BTW Max A/C just recirculated the inside air and doesn't draw any outside Fresh air into the cabin. regards Jean Marc Chartier ------------------------------ From: "Craig, Dennis" Subject: Re: Brite Box Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:05:51 -0700 I have seen this on my jeep too and assume my 99 SD does the same, but how do you over ride the high beam setting to be the same as the "flash" setting? The Flash is a momentary position. dc -----Original Message----- From: RICK KANE [mailto:handgun netzero.net] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 6:19 AM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [97up-list] Re: Brite Box The flash position on my truck keeps the low beams on and lights up the highballs. _____________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ From: jmann living.com Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:28:36 -0500 YES, Flowmasters are the way to go. I run a single 70 Series SUV Performance Flowmaster on my 2000 F150 5.4 Lariat. It is a three chamber muffler and cruises nice and quietly. Little if any cab resonance at cruising speed. But, comes to life when you step on the gas. People will know you're there when you mat it. It has a 5 inch casing that allows for great exhaust flow, yet providing just the right about of back pressure. And yes almost all engines require back pressure to operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines. I believe they make a dual kit for your truck. But you'll have to check. Call their Tech support. They are very helpful and knowledgeable. I run a single muffler, but at I said, it's large and flowers well. If you're running anything smaller than a 5.4 I wouldn't go for true duals. And I wouldn't even really worry about it on a 5.4. You can get Flowmasters with a single in and dual outs, like mine. You save a bit and the right muffler will flow just as well as two. www.flowmastermuffler.com Joe Austin, TX. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Veren [mailto:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:35 AM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Flowmasters. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian B." To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:13 AM Subject: [97up-list] Muffler Question-for true duals > Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there. > Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes. Well, > needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me to > drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just too > loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What mufflers > would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would give me > the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of back > pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but > some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before, I > can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve, JMC, > anyone, I need help. > > TIA, > Chris > n VA > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. > > ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ From: George Rigney Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:51:23 -0500 Why? -----Original Message----- From: jmann living.com [mailto:jmann living.com] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 11:29 AM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals And yes almost all engines require back pressure to operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:50:05 -0700 From: johny Subject: Re: Brite Box Craig, Dennis wrote: > I have seen this on my jeep too and assume my 99 SD does the same, but how > do you over ride the high beam setting to be the same as the "flash" > setting? The Flash is a momentary position. There is an aftermarket product called "the brite box". I know it's availble for the Ford SD trucks. Don't know if it is available for other vehicles. ------------------------------ From: jmann living.com Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:02:11 -0500 Honestly, the Flowmaster techs will be able to better answer that question. 800-544-4761 Joe -----Original Message----- From: George Rigney [mailto:George.Rigney WSNelson.com] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 11:51 AM To: '97up-list ford-trucks.com' Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Why? -----Original Message----- From: jmann living.com [mailto:jmann living.com] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 11:29 AM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals And yes almost all engines require back pressure to operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines. ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ From: "Runyon, Charlie" Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:55:43 -0700 Do you experience popping sounds from your flow master system? Mine does when it's warming up and ever so often after. Then when I park, it makes allot of noises. Charlie > -----Original Message----- > From: jmann living.com [SMTP:jmann living.com] > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 6:29 AM > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals > > YES, Flowmasters are the way to go. > > I run a single 70 Series SUV Performance Flowmaster on my 2000 F150 5.4 > Lariat. It is a three chamber muffler and cruises nice and quietly. Little > if any cab resonance at cruising speed. But, comes to life when you step > on > the gas. People will know you're there when you mat it. It has a 5 inch > casing that allows for great exhaust flow, yet providing just the right > about of back pressure. And yes almost all engines require back pressure > to > operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines. > > I believe they make a dual kit for your truck. But you'll have to check. > Call their Tech support. They are very helpful and knowledgeable. I run a > single muffler, but at I said, it's large and flowers well. > > If you're running anything smaller than a 5.4 I wouldn't go for true > duals. > And I wouldn't even really worry about it on a 5.4. You can get > Flowmasters > with a single in and dual outs, like mine. You save a bit and the right > muffler will flow just as well as two. > > www.flowmastermuffler.com > > Joe > Austin, TX. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Veren [mailto:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:35 AM > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals > > Flowmasters. > > Keith > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christian B." > To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:13 AM > Subject: [97up-list] Muffler Question-for true duals > > > > Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there. > > Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes. > Well, > > needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me > to > > drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just > too > > loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What > mufflers > > would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would > give > me > > the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of > back > > pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but > > some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before, > I > > can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve, > JMC, > > anyone, I need help. > > > > TIA, > > Chris > > n VA > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > ========================================================== > > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > > message. > > > > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ From: jmann living.com Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:16:53 -0500 I have recently experienced sounds from underneath the cab. But what I hear sounds like water dripping from the AC on to an exhaust pipe. The Flowmaster is under the bed and does not really make any noise. If the pipe is hot enough, dripping water can make a popping sound. When water vaporizes it expands 1000 times. If this happens instantaneously when hitting an extremely hot surface like an exhaust pipe or cat, it will make a POPing sound. Try to locate, front of back, under the bed or under the cab, the sound you are hearing. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Runyon, Charlie [mailto:runyonc FTSCPAC.NAVY.MIL] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 1:56 PM To: '97up-list ford-trucks.com' Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Do you experience popping sounds from your flow master system? Mine does when it's warming up and ever so often after. Then when I park, it makes allot of noises. Charlie > -----Original Message----- > From: jmann living.com [SMTP:jmann living.com] > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 6:29 AM > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals > > YES, Flowmasters are the way to go. > > I run a single 70 Series SUV Performance Flowmaster on my 2000 F150 5.4 > Lariat. It is a three chamber muffler and cruises nice and quietly. Little > if any cab resonance at cruising speed. But, comes to life when you step > on > the gas. People will know you're there when you mat it. It has a 5 inch > casing that allows for great exhaust flow, yet providing just the right > about of back pressure. And yes almost all engines require back pressure > to > operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines. > > I believe they make a dual kit for your truck. But you'll have to check. > Call their Tech support. They are very helpful and knowledgeable. I run a > single muffler, but at I said, it's large and flowers well. > > If you're running anything smaller than a 5.4 I wouldn't go for true > duals. > And I wouldn't even really worry about it on a 5.4. You can get > Flowmasters > with a single in and dual outs, like mine. You save a bit and the right > muffler will flow just as well as two. > > www.flowmastermuffler.com > > Joe > Austin, TX. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Veren [mailto:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:35 AM > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals > > Flowmasters. > > Keith > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christian B." > To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:13 AM > Subject: [97up-list] Muffler Question-for true duals > > > > Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there. > > Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes. > Well, > > needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me > to > > drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just > too > > loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What > mufflers > > would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would > give > me > > the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of > back > > pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but > > some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before, > I > > can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve, > JMC, > > anyone, I need help. > > > > TIA, > > Chris > > n VA > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > ========================================================== > > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > > message. > > > > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ From: "Keith Veren" Subject: Re: F350/F250 SD Brakes Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:19:05 -0400 Try switching the two front tires, then specifically torquing them to the correct specs. Just torque the rears correctly. Let me know. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Matus" To: ford-trucks.com> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 9:48 AM Subject: [97up-list] F350/F250 SD Brakes > Glen -- > > I live in Colorado and do ZERO Towing, ok, Once ~ 50 Miles. > > I have had my rotors machined by the dealer at 19,100 miles, it lasted until > 24,000 miles. I now have 28,900 miles and will begin to set up an > appointment to have the rotors REPLACED this time. I also had an alignment > problem 9,000, which wore out a set of front tires. Those tires are not > cheap, heck nothing with this truck is cheap. I love it all the same. > > I notice that this vibration most when the brakes are cool (just leaving > interstate after dozens of miles. My off ramp to Castle Rock (Exit 181 SB > off of I-25) has a steep ramp to a stop, so I have to brake hard. This > truck really does vibrate bad. I do not baby my truck but, I do push the > pedal quite hard. Aside from the occasional (OH, SH*t Stops) I am not heavy > on the brakes. > > My truck has the "Hydro Boost" braking system. It actually is assisted by > the Hydralic pressure of the Power Steering pump. If that matters any. > > Write me if you hjave any questions, I'd be glad to compare notes. > > Scott. > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. > > ------------------------------ From: "Keith Veren" Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:25:30 -0400 So the next fresh air/fuel charge is not sucked out into the intra-manifold vacuum space left by the fast-leaving just-burned exhaust gases. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Rigney" To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 12:51 PM Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals > Why? > > -----Original Message----- > From: jmann living.com [mailto:jmann living.com] > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 11:29 AM > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals > > > And yes almost all engines require back pressure to > operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines. > > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. > ------------------------------ From: George Rigney Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:30:44 -0500 Dear Charlie, Joe's right. You should confirm that your AC isn't dripping on hot metal. On the other hand, the popping noises from metal that is cooling off or heating up are normal. It's called "heat ticking" or something like that. I remember my heat transfer professor droning on about it one afternoon, something about shifting along grain boundaries. Anyway, the point is that the popping noises are probably nothing to worry about, but I do remember something about an AC dripping onto the exhaust line on this list a year back or so. Anybody remember the details? Regards, George 1974 Gran Torino Elite 351W 1984 LTD Crown Victoria 302 1999 F250 SD CC V10 -----Original Message----- From: jmann living.com [mailto:jmann living.com] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 2:17 PM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals I have recently experienced sounds from underneath the cab. But what I hear sounds like water dripping from the AC on to an exhaust pipe. The Flowmaster is under the bed and does not really make any noise. If the pipe is hot enough, dripping water can make a popping sound. When water vaporizes it expands 1000 times. If this happens instantaneously when hitting an extremely hot surface like an exhaust pipe or cat, it will make a POPing sound. Try to locate, front of back, under the bed or under the cab, the sound you are hearing. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Runyon, Charlie [mailto:runyonc FTSCPAC.NAVY.MIL] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 1:56 PM To: '97up-list ford-trucks.com' Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Do you experience popping sounds from your flow master system? Mine does when it's warming up and ever so often after. Then when I park, it makes allot of noises. Charlie > -----Original Message----- > From: jmann living.com [SMTP:jmann living.com] > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 6:29 AM > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals > > YES, Flowmasters are the way to go. > > I run a single 70 Series SUV Performance Flowmaster on my 2000 F150 5.4 > Lariat. It is a three chamber muffler and cruises nice and quietly. Little > if any cab resonance at cruising speed. But, comes to life when you step > on > the gas. People will know you're there when you mat it. It has a 5 inch > casing that allows for great exhaust flow, yet providing just the right > about of back pressure. And yes almost all engines require back pressure > to > operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines. > > I believe they make a dual kit for your truck. But you'll have to check. > Call their Tech support. They are very helpful and knowledgeable. I run a > single muffler, but at I said, it's large and flowers well. > > If you're running anything smaller than a 5.4 I wouldn't go for true > duals. > And I wouldn't even really worry about it on a 5.4. You can get > Flowmasters > with a single in and dual outs, like mine. You save a bit and the right > muffler will flow just as well as two. > > www.flowmastermuffler.com > > Joe > Austin, TX. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Veren [mailto:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:35 AM > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals > > Flowmasters. > > Keith > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christian B." > To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:13 AM > Subject: [97up-list] Muffler Question-for true duals > > > > Well, I have a series of questions for all you exhaust guru's out there. > > Yesterday I had "True Duals" put on my 97 f150 with straight pipes. > Well, > > needless to say, it is much louder than I expected and too loud for me > to > > drive. I love a nice rumble in my exhaust but straight pipes are just > too > > loud and have way too much popping. Here is the question: What > mufflers > > would y'all reccommend me putting on this type of setup? What would > give > me > > the maximum horse power? Do these engines require a certain amount of > back > > pressure for best performance. I noticed a slight decrease in power but > > some seems to have come back. Where I could not chirp the tires before, > I > > can now but ever so slightly. Well, hopefully someone can help, Steve, > JMC, > > anyone, I need help. > > > > TIA, > > Chris > > n VA > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > ========================================================== > > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > > message. > > > > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ From: George Rigney Subject: Re: F350/F250 SD Brakes Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:31:36 -0500 What are the correct torque values? -----Original Message----- From: Keith Veren [mailto:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 3:19 PM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [97up-list] Re: F350/F250 SD Brakes Try switching the two front tires, then specifically torquing them to the correct specs. Just torque the rears correctly. Let me know. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Matus" To: ford-trucks.com> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 9:48 AM Subject: [97up-list] F350/F250 SD Brakes > Glen -- > > I live in Colorado and do ZERO Towing, ok, Once ~ 50 Miles. > > I have had my rotors machined by the dealer at 19,100 miles, it lasted until > 24,000 miles. I now have 28,900 miles and will begin to set up an > appointment to have the rotors REPLACED this time. I also had an alignment > problem 9,000, which wore out a set of front tires. Those tires are not > cheap, heck nothing with this truck is cheap. I love it all the same. > > I notice that this vibration most when the brakes are cool (just leaving > interstate after dozens of miles. My off ramp to Castle Rock (Exit 181 SB > off of I-25) has a steep ramp to a stop, so I have to brake hard. This > truck really does vibrate bad. I do not baby my truck but, I do push the > pedal quite hard. Aside from the occasional (OH, SH*t Stops) I am not heavy > on the brakes. > > My truck has the "Hydro Boost" braking system. It actually is assisted by > the Hydralic pressure of the Power Steering pump. If that matters any. > > Write me if you hjave any questions, I'd be glad to compare notes. > > Scott. > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. > > ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ From: George Rigney Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:29:36 -0500 Dear Keith, This could only occur if the exhaust manifold were at a lower negative gauge pressure than the cylinder during the brief space of time that both valves are open and the piston is receding. The vacuum that the piston pulls during this time will almost certainly be much stronger than the exhaust manifold vacuum. I've never designed a discharge line to be more restrictive so that a pump will run better. I know that a SIIC engine isn't the same as a pump, and I'm not disputing that there may be some advantage to having a certain amount of back-pressure in an exhaust line, but I don't accept your explanation. Perhaps the answer has something to do with balancing the restriction in the exhaust system with that of the intake system. Anyone? Best Regards, George 1974 Gran Torino Elite 351W 1984 LTD Crown Victoria 302 1999 F250 SD CC V10 -----Original Message----- From: Keith Veren [mailto:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 3:26 PM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals So the next fresh air/fuel charge is not sucked out into the intra-manifold vacuum space left by the fast-leaving just-burned exhaust gases. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Rigney" To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 12:51 PM Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals > Why? > > -----Original Message----- > From: jmann living.com [mailto:jmann living.com] > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 11:29 AM > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals > > > And yes almost all engines require back pressure to > operate optimally. Except for maybe certain racing engines. > > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. > ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ From: "Keith Veren" Subject: Re: Muffler Question-for true duals Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:37:23 -0400 My engineering friend tells me you are essentially correct; however, the rapidly receding exhaust gases in a 4 tube header/manifold set-up "help" each other race out of the system resulting in a quite low pressure just beyond the exhaust valve that you want to be able to control with a little known back pressure to balance the system. By the way, I am a Toxicologist, I rely on my Professional Engineers for complex answers. Keith Anyway, Flowmasters are the ticket. ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Rigney" To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 5:29 PM Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals > Dear Keith, > > This could only occur if the exhaust manifold were at a lower negative gauge > pressure than the cylinder during the brief space of time that both valves > are open and the piston is receding. The vacuum that the piston pulls > during this time will almost certainly be much stronger than the exhaust > manifold vacuum. > > I've never designed a discharge line to be more restrictive so that a pump > will run better. I know that a SIIC engine isn't the same as a pump, and > I'm not disputing that there may be some advantage to having a certain > amount of back-pressure in an exhaust line, but I don't accept your > explanation. > > Perhaps the answer has something to do with balancing the restriction in the > exhaust system with that of the intake system. Anyone? > > Best Regards, > George > > 1974 Gran Torino Elite 351W > 1984 LTD Crown Victoria 302 > 1999 F250 SD CC V10 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Veren [mailto:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 3:26 PM > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: [97up-list] Re: Muffler Question-for true duals > > > So the next fresh air/fuel charge is not sucked out into the intra-manifold > vacuum space left by the fast-leaving just-burned exhaust gases. > > Keith > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Rigney" To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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