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Please do not repost, forward or otherwise publish messages contained in these archives without consent from the respective author(s). These archives may not, in whole or part, be stored on any public retrieval system (FTP, web, gopher, newsgroup, etc.) by individuals or companies, without consent of the respective authors. Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 97up-list); Mon, 05 Jun 2000 12:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 12:17:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 97up-list digest users Reply-to: 97up-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 97up-list Digest V2000 #90 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1997 and Newer Truck Mailing List(Use the Small Chassis List for Rangers, Explorers, Aerostars and Bronco IIs. Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 97up-list Digest Sun, 04 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 090 In This Issue: F250 4x4 tires Re: F250 4x4 tires Engine oil change freq. Re: Engine oil change freq. Re: F250 4x4 tires The Dreaded Door Crack Re: The Dreaded Door Crack Re: The Dreaded Door Crack Re: The Dreaded Door Crack Re: The Dreaded Door Crack ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Jun 2000 10:06:37 -0700 From: Ian Poyntz Subject: F250 4x4 tires Hi all: I have been told that the Goodyear LT 245/75R 16 Wrangler RT/S tires that came stock on my F250 LD SB 4x4 are not the best. I have also been told that they are 'crap'. I want tires that are capable of handling fairly smooth logging roads, but also without excessive noise on the highway. I have some questions on this subject: 1. Is this Goodyear tire really an inferior tire 2. On rough roads with a camper is it better to drive with the max rated tire pressure or will less pressure equate to less flats 3. What is the best tire for the job 4. Will I really increase fuel consumption and confuse the trucks computer if I put a larger tire on the truck. This is what Goodyear has said. I have heard that Michelin and Hancock tires make a good rough road tire. Opinions? Thanks for the input. Ian... __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.canada.com ------------------------------ From: RSnovi aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 14:01:44 EDT Subject: Re: F250 4x4 tires In a message dated 6/4/00 1:08:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, poyntz canada.com writes: Yea they pretty much suck, I know a few people that have had them. But i can't say much better about Firestones i had. Its not really inferior, just expensive replacement costs. More pressure, less will make for dangerous sway. I only adjust pressure from stock (65) if i feel the it needs it. Yes it will result in lower mileage with a larger tire, it takes more power to turn the tire. Best bet for you probably is a BFG all terrain, or a Michelin LTX, I have had great luck with either line ride and wear. There both the same company. Ross Smith 99F250 SD PSD/4x4/SC 9sec93cobra Florida State University National Champs (again) << Hi all: I have been told that the Goodyear LT 245/75R 16 Wrangler RT/S tires that came stock on my F250 LD SB 4x4 are not the best. I have also been told that they are 'crap'. I want tires that are capable of handling fairly smooth logging roads, but also without excessive noise on the highway. I have some questions on this subject: 1. Is this Goodyear tire really an inferior tire 2. On rough roads with a camper is it better to drive with the max rated tire pressure or will less pressure equate to less flats 3. What is the best tire for the job 4. Will I really increase fuel consumption and confuse the trucks computer if I put a larger tire on the truck. This is what Goodyear has said. I have heard that Michelin and Hancock tires make a good rough road tire. Opinions? Thanks for the input. Ian... >> ------------------------------ From: DJBurry aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 21:56:45 EDT Subject: Engine oil change freq. Engine oil analysis We have all the talk about changing our oil & filter at 2500, 3000 or 5000 miles. At what interval should be change our oil and how should we determine the change interval? I had a 97 PSD (currently own a 2000 PSD) and changed the oil at 5000 mile internals. The PSD diesel engine holds 15 quarts of oil, including filter. It was my opinion that having 15 quarts of oil in the engine, the engine oil can hold and suspend the dirty contaminants, so I elected to change my oil at the 5000-mile internal. Most gas engines only hold 5-6 quarts of oil, 1/3 the amount of a PSD. I still was curious about the condition of the oil changing at 5000 miles. So I elected to send an oil sample to be analyzed at Analysts Maintenance Laboratories, Inc, Hoffman States, Ill, 800-222-0071. I have received the oil analysis and all parameters are in acceptable limits on the engine oil. My driving conditions/habits are about 60% highway driving and 40% town. I don't do any heavy towing only a 2500# snowmobile trailer in the winter. I use Rotella T 15/40 oil, with a K&N oil filter. I have 10k miles on the truck and this is my second oil change. I think I will send in an oil sample every 10k miles. The cost was $26.00 for the testing. Fuel Mileage: My truck is 6 months old with 10k miles. The fuel mileage never has been very good. I have been getting about 15.5 miles per gallon overall. I don't drive my PSD hard, but do get my foot into the turbo on occasion chasing the "Yuppies and the Euro Boxes" up the mountains in Colorado. But, I just installed a new K&N air filter and the fuel mileage increased by about 2 miles per gallon. The original stock air filter I replaced was medium dirty. So, check you filters and watch for air restrictions on the intake. I have heard rumored there is some after market air boxes for the PSD trucks for increased airflow. If you would like a copy of my oil analysis report please send a self addressed stamped envelope to me and I will return a copy. Dave Burry Box 1303, Arvada, CO 80001 PS: Portland leading LA by 8 points, 7th game. ------------------------------ From: RSnovi aol.com Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 00:37:26 EDT Subject: Re: Engine oil change freq. In a message dated 6/4/00 9:59:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DJBurry aol.com writes: I would recommend not going over the FoMoCo recommended limits especially when towing, I think they have their reasons for putting changes 3K miles, Even though it might hold more oil is not really excuse to lengthen the oil change. NASCAR systems hold as much if not more oil, I realize this is a racing application, but same principle. Your mileage should increase slightly about now the motor is just beginning to break in. BTW: lakers won. Portland would have been a better matchup. RS << We have all the talk about changing our oil & filter at 2500, 3000 or 5000 miles. At what interval should be change our oil and how should we determine the change interval? I had a 97 PSD (currently own a 2000 PSD) and changed the oil at 5000 mile internals. The PSD diesel engine holds 15 quarts of oil, including filter. It was my opinion that having 15 quarts of oil in the engine, the engine oil can hold and suspend the dirty contaminants, so I elected to change my oil at the 5000-mile internal. Most gas engines only hold 5-6 quarts of oil, 1/3 the amount of a PSD. I still was curious about the condition of the oil changing at 5000 miles. So I elected to send an oil sample to be analyzed at Analysts Maintenance Laboratories, Inc, Hoffman States, Ill, 800-222-0071. I have received the oil analysis and all parameters are in acceptable limits on the engine oil. My driving conditions/habits are about 60% highway driving and 40% town. I don't do any heavy towing only a 2500# snowmobile trailer in the winter. I use Rotella T 15/40 oil, with a K&N oil filter. I have 10k miles on the truck and this is my second oil change. I think I will send in an oil sample every 10k miles. The cost was $26.00 for the testing. Fuel Mileage: My truck is 6 months old with 10k miles. The fuel mileage never has been very good. I have been getting about 15.5 miles per gallon overall. I don't drive my PSD hard, but do get my foot into the turbo on occasion chasing the "Yuppies and the Euro Boxes" up the mountains in Colorado. But, I just installed a new K&N air filter and the fuel mileage increased by about 2 miles per gallon. The original stock air filter I replaced was medium dirty. So, check you filters and watch for air restrictions on the intake. I have heard rumored there is some after market air boxes for the PSD trucks for increased airflow. If you would like a copy of my oil analysis report please send a self addressed stamped envelope to me and I will return a copy. Dave Burry Box 1303, Arvada, CO 80001 PS: Portland leading LA by 8 points, 7th game. >> ------------------------------ From: SUGGSRD aol.com Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 05:41:04 EDT Subject: Re: F250 4x4 tires I have used Cooper Discoverers on all my 4X4 vehicles for about 10 years. We started buying them at work were our vehicles got a lot of time on logging roads. This is a tough tire that wears well and clears its treads well. Bob ------------------------------ From: "Peter Taylor" Subject: The Dreaded Door Crack Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:16:02 -0600 Well, after 9 months, my dealer finally has the replacement door, and I'm taking it in tommorrow (June 6th). I guess with all this elapsed time, I'm wondering what people's experiences have been and things to be aware of. My dealer is still telling me that the only fix is to replace the whole door. I'm worried about making a small problem worse. I'm making sure that the paint matches and that they use new molding around the door. Anything else I should be aware of? For the people who are going "Huh?": Ford issued a SSM #12071 about the door cracks. For more info check out: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://arrowaranch.com/truck/crack.html http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.f150 online.  com/articles/cracks.html Thanks, Peter Taylor The F150 Crack Page Guy. ------------------------------ From: "Rivera, Max" Subject: Re: The Dreaded Door Crack Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:34:06 -0700 I am taking my 97 f150, back to the dealer for the door crack on both doors and according to the body manager they are going to weld some kind of support , repaint and give back the original doors. Maximo Rivera "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin -----Original Message----- From: Peter Taylor [mailto:petert vantageinc.com] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 11:16 AM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [97up-list] The Dreaded Door Crack Well, after 9 months, my dealer finally has the replacement door, and I'm taking it in tommorrow (June 6th). I guess with all this elapsed time, I'm wondering what people's experiences have been and things to be aware of. My dealer is still telling me that the only fix is to replace the whole door. I'm worried about making a small problem worse. I'm making sure that the paint matches and that they use new molding around the door. Anything else I should be aware of? For the people who are going "Huh?": Ford issued a SSM #12071 about the door cracks. For more info check out: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://arrowaranch.com/truck/crack.html http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.f150 online. com/articles/cracks.html Thanks, Peter Taylor The F150 Crack Page Guy. ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 09:44:38 -0700 From: denton sprague Subject: Re: The Dreaded Door Crack I have a '99 F150 that qualifies me for the DC club....I think that there isn't enuff supporting metal on the doors. I suspect the dealer will have a local body shop weld and then re-paint my drivers side door. After that, I might pull of the door panels on both doors and epoxy some supporting material in the crack area. Wonder if that will work. Peter Taylor wrote: > Well, after 9 months, my dealer finally has the replacement door, and I'm > taking it in tommorrow (June 6th). I guess with all this elapsed time, I'm > wondering what people's experiences have been and things to be aware of. > > My dealer is still telling me that the only fix is to replace the whole > door. I'm worried about making a small problem worse. I'm making sure that > the paint matches and that they use new molding around the door. Anything > else I should be aware of? > > For the people who are going "Huh?": Ford issued a SSM #12071 about the > door cracks. For more info check out: > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://arrowaranch.com/truck/crack.html > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.f150 online. com/articles/cracks.html > > Thanks, > > Peter Taylor > The F150 Crack Page Guy. > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 12:53:23 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: The Dreaded Door Crack At 12:16 PM 6/5/00 , you wrote: -snip- >For the people who are going "Huh?": Ford issued a SSM #12071 about the >door cracks. For more info check out: >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://arrowaranch.com/truck/crack.html >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.f150 online. com/articles/cracks.html > >Thanks, > >Peter Taylor >The F150 Crack Page Guy. We've got an article right here on FTE: http://www.ford-trucks.com/news/news52.html Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ From: "Peter Taylor" Subject: Re: The Dreaded Door Crack Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:13:00 -0600 >Max Rivera wrote: >I am taking my 97 f150, back to the dealer for the door crack on both doors >and according to the body manager they are going to weld some kind of >support , repaint and give back the original doors. How do I convince my Dealer/Body shop to do this? It seems like a better solution to the problem than replacing the whole door..... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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