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97up-list Digest Mon, 29 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 085

In This Issue:
Re: North by North West
North by North West
Re: North by North West
Just wanted to say thanks...
Re: North by North West
Re: North by North West
Re: North by North West
Re: Tonneau Covers

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 01:49:24 -0300
From: Mark MacDonald onlinesupport.pe.ca>
Subject: Re: North by North West

I had a very similar problem.. I had it mounted on the dash, down near the
window. Only problem there is that when I pulled the headlights on, or the
AC kicked in, or I used the signal lights, the compass went crazy. I
relocated the compass above the rear-view mirror, and have had no problems
since.

Cheers


At 11:04 AM 5/29/00 -0400, you wrote:
>My 2000 4 X 4 Diesel is all outfitted now, more or less. I have purchased 2
>electronic compasses (and must return the second) neither of which I could
>calibrate so they would work with any consistency. After some work, I've
>figured out that something in the front of the vehicle, probably related to
>the diesel engine, keeps me from getting consistent and reasonably accurate
>readings. I'm even suspecting - maybe incorrectly - that changing speed
>affects the readings.
>
>If anyone else had had this problem and solved it, please let me know. I'd
>have spent the extra dollars for that upscale-sedan accessory that provides
>accurate direction as well as indoor and outdoor temperatures - if one were
>available - and not to impossible to install. .


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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar_Huse?= bgnett.no>
Subject: North by North West
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 09:06:22 +0200

I have the 2000 Excursion with the diesel. The compass gizmo is standard
issue. It works well, even if I'm at a location with lots of opposite
deviation as compared to the US. There is a procedure for resetting and
re-calibrating it, but I haven't bothered. A compass is only that much
useful without degree bearings. A dash or overhead mounted GPS would be a
nice touch... :)

Bjørnar
Aalesund, Norway

> My 2000 4 X 4 Diesel is all outfitted now, more or less. I have
> purchased 2
> electronic compasses (and must return the second) neither of which I could
> calibrate so they would work with any consistency. After some work, I've
> figured out that something in the front of the vehicle, probably
> related to
> the diesel engine, keeps me from getting consistent and
> reasonably accurate
> readings.


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From: davesomers worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: North by North West
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:54:54 -0400

I too have had the same problems with a conventional compass in both my '86
gas and '99 diesel.
I had tried an electronic compass with a remote sensor, but even in the
back of the cab, it varied with whether motor was on or off (86 gas).
My co-worker has a minivan with an factory overhead compass that reads
N,NE,E, etc and I've found that that truly is only accurate within -/+ 90
degrees. That doesn't seem reliable enough to me.
I have given up and now use a hand compass and get out and walk away from
the truck. It's reliable, but certainly isn't convenient.

I borrowed a GPS unit to try, and have found that with an external antenna
(the handheld's are blocked by the truck's roof) they can give you a pretty
good idea if you keep driving in the same direction for a short while. It
didn't help you with the "which way is North" question when you are
standing still. The lowest price handheld with an input for a remote
antenna I found was about $400. I put it on my birthday list. When you
spend $400 vs $150 for a handheld you get a LOT of really nice features.

Dave Somers


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From: "Pete Calabrese" banet.net>
Subject: Just wanted to say thanks...
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:19:03 -0400

...to those on the list who helped me get the proper trailer wiring pkg for
my truck. It finally arrived Friday and I installed it last night when I
got home from the weekend. Installed nice and easy, and cleaned it up with
some wire loom to look a bit more presentable.

Thanks again....

Pete

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493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually


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From: RSnovi aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:58:32 EDT
Subject: Re: North by North West

In a message dated 5/30/00 8:57:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
davesomers worldnet.att.net writes:


I am going to pick up a Garmin GPS III plus, a friend has one it works great,
I have a Magellan that is a POS its a few yrs old and thing takes forever to
get position on satellites and it goes through AA batteries like water.


RS

<<
I too have had the same problems with a conventional compass in both my '86
gas and '99 diesel.
I had tried an electronic compass with a remote sensor, but even in the
back of the cab, it varied with whether motor was on or off (86 gas).
My co-worker has a minivan with an factory overhead compass that reads
N,NE,E, etc and I've found that that truly is only accurate within -/+ 90
degrees. That doesn't seem reliable enough to me.
I have given up and now use a hand compass and get out and walk away from
the truck. It's reliable, but certainly isn't convenient.

I borrowed a GPS unit to try, and have found that with an external antenna
(the handheld's are blocked by the truck's roof) they can give you a pretty
good idea if you keep driving in the same direction for a short while. It
didn't help you with the "which way is North" question when you are
standing still. The lowest price handheld with an input for a remote
antenna I found was about $400. I put it on my birthday list. When you
spend $400 vs $150 for a handheld you get a LOT of really nice features.

Dave Somers >>

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 16:07:49 -0300
From: Mark MacDonald onlinesupport.pe.ca>
Subject: Re: North by North West

I have an older Garmin GPS 45, and I can use it in the truck without an
external antenna.. Just be sure you mount it on the dash so that the
antenna has a clear view of the sky. I found that an adjustable cellular
mount works fine, or you can order their own mounting bracket, so you can
run it from "shore power" if it eats batteries too fast.




>I am going to pick up a Garmin GPS III plus, a friend has one it works great,
>I have a Magellan that is a POS its a few yrs old and thing takes forever to
>get position on satellites and it goes through AA batteries like water.


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From: "Steve J. Hodson" mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: North by North West
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 17:29:46 -0400

Hope this isn't too dumb question but why does anyone (in the US at least)
need a compass in a land based vehicle? Other than perhaps the driving in
the desert south west I can't think of a situation where you can really get
a truck far enough off road to require orientiering skills. Am I missing
something here?
-----Original Message-----
From: RSnovi aol.com aol.com>
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 1:59 PM
Subject: [97up-list] Re: North by North West


>In a message dated 5/30/00 8:57:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>davesomers worldnet.att.net writes:
>
>
>I am going to pick up a Garmin GPS III plus, a friend has one it works
great,
>I have a Magellan that is a POS its a few yrs old and thing takes forever
to
>get position on satellites and it goes through AA batteries like water.
>
>
>RS
>
><<
> I too have had the same problems with a conventional compass in both my
'86
> gas and '99 diesel.
> I had tried an electronic compass with a remote sensor, but even in the
> back of the cab, it varied with whether motor was on or off (86 gas).
> My co-worker has a minivan with an factory overhead compass that reads
> N,NE,E, etc and I've found that that truly is only accurate within -/+ 90
> degrees. That doesn't seem reliable enough to me.
> I have given up and now use a hand compass and get out and walk away from
> the truck. It's reliable, but certainly isn't convenient.
>
> I borrowed a GPS unit to try, and have found that with an external antenna
> (the handheld's are blocked by the truck's roof) they can give you a
pretty
> good idea if you keep driving in the same direction for a short while. It
> didn't help you with the "which way is North" question when you are
> standing still. The lowest price handheld with an input for a remote
> antenna I found was about $400. I put it on my birthday list. When you
> spend $400 vs $150 for a handheld you get a LOT of really nice features.
>
> Dave Somers >>
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From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:11:53 EDT
Subject: Re: Tonneau Covers

I've got the rolll n lock as well and everything you have said is right on.
The only leak is in the area od the tailgate corner and it's small. Looking
at it with all three surfaces coming together it's almost impossible to seal.
I bought mine without installation and did that part myself so I wound up
considerably cheaper although I think I probably spent the better part of
three days getting it on and right.

John G.

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