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97up-list Digest Thu, 25 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 083

In This Issue:
Re: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake
Tonneau Covers
Re: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake
Re: A/C smell
tonneau cover
ADMIN: Supernationals Report, part I

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From: "Keith Veren" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 02:24:36 -0400

Take it in, tell them to thoughouly clean the throttle-body and throttle
plate and the assembly plate of any debris, carbon, or any other bad junk
that has accumulated there, causing the throttle plate not to return
smoothly. If they are nice, you may want to throw them a like an oil change
or some thing. If they are NOT nice ask for a complete set of copies
(originals if you can get the) describing you vehicles problem Most of the
time when they here that they will take peek under the hood. I the car does
not run write, talk to the service manager ( or do as I did and made friends
with the Owner of the store).


----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Veren" worldnet.att.net>
To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 1:47 AM
Subject: [97up-list] Re: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake


> Either you are a great aggressive four-wheeler, or they forgot to
inststall
> a deflector plate or cover.
>
> Keith
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lou Mallia" attglobal.net>
> To: "Ford Trucks" <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:37 PM
> Subject: [97up-list] A/C smell & intermittent idle shake
>
>
> > Greetings!
> >
> > I have a 99 F-150 SC 4x4 with 4.6L and auto trans.
> >
> > Now that A/C season is upon us here in Raleigh NC, I'm getting an awful
> > musty odor from the vents when I first turn on the A/C. I seem to
> > recall hearing about this a long time ago, and was wondering what to
> > expect from the dealer when I bring it in. No - scratch that, I'd like
> > to know what to DEMAND from the dealer in terms of a fix, when I bring
> > it in! Can this problem be permanently rectified? Can I fix it myself,
> > and
> > save myself time and aggrivation?
> >
> > I'm also encountering something that has me far more concerned. I have
> > only 12K on the truck, and am getting a very, very intermittent (once a
> > month or so) condition at hot idle, in "drive". The truck will be
> > idling
> > fine, then suddenly begin idling very irregularly, with a shake. If I
> > pump the gas, it seems to straighten right out. It never stalls, just
> > shakes for a few seconds until I bump the gas.
> >
> > Strangely enough, I've also encountered this in my 95 Windstar 3.8L. It
> >
> > is also very, very intermittent in that vehicle as well. My wife
> > brought the Windstar to the local dealer recently after it happened,
> > hoping to have them catch the problem. Of course, they could not
> > re-create it, nor did it show up as a stored trouble code. They
> > classified it as "drivability concern", which seems to be a catch-all
> > phrase for something that they cannot isolate.
> >
> > My concern is that there is some underlying problem that, of course,
> > will need to be fixed at my expense after the respective warranties
> > expire. Has anyone encountered and determined a fix for this idle
> > condition?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lou
> >
> > ==========================================================
> > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
> > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the
> > message.
> >
> >
>
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From: "Allemand, Andre'" KMG.com>
Subject: Tonneau Covers
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 06:32:51 -0500

Tonneau Covers

This is to who wants the Tonneau cover for his truck. I've tried the vinyl
cover with the snaps and found it to be un reliable. I now have a Roll and
lock brand aluminum cover. It paid for itself the first day I used it. It
is 99% water tight. The only place that water comes in when it rains is
right at the corner of the tailgate. During traveling, this is no problem.
I work at Talladega during races as part of the fire and safety team. We
haul tons of equipment to and from the track. This cover keeps everything
dry, it also locks at four points. Two points on the tailgate and two on
the bed rails. It is installed using clamps and the only place they drill
is to mount the locking bar on the tailgate. The price was about 1100.00
installed at a local accessory shop. I thought it was pretty pricey, but,
I'm very satisfied with it. It does not rattle or move during travel. It
opens into five locking positions such as half bed, quarter bed. I have had
many compliments and questions concerning it. Hope this helps.

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From: "Mark Browning" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 08:19:53 EDT

i have a 99 regular cab f150 and it does the same thing when idoling it goes
nuts the rpms don't move much but the engine does its like it wants to die
but it doesn't.....
and for the smell i never use the a/c and i get this rank smell after the
truck sits in the sun for a bit.. i can't explain the smell the truck is
immaculate... i never ate or drank anything in my truck and
it still has a really noticable smell and its definitly not me...
so i don't know what these problems are and i'm not going back to ford . I
have never recieved such bad service in my life i will wait till the truck
really goes bad and claim my warranty on it but till then i will suffer with
the problems at hand...

>From: "Keith Veren" worldnet.att.net>
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
>Subject: [97up-list] Re: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake
>Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 01:47:20 -0400
>
>Either you are a great aggressive four-wheeler, or they forgot to inststall
>a deflector plate or cover.
>
>Keith
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lou Mallia" attglobal.net>
>To: "Ford Trucks" <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:37 PM
>Subject: [97up-list] A/C smell & intermittent idle shake
>
>
> > Greetings!
> >
> > I have a 99 F-150 SC 4x4 with 4.6L and auto trans.
> >
> > Now that A/C season is upon us here in Raleigh NC, I'm getting an awful
> > musty odor from the vents when I first turn on the A/C. I seem to
> > recall hearing about this a long time ago, and was wondering what to
> > expect from the dealer when I bring it in. No - scratch that, I'd like
> > to know what to DEMAND from the dealer in terms of a fix, when I bring
> > it in! Can this problem be permanently rectified? Can I fix it myself,
> > and
> > save myself time and aggrivation?
> >
> > I'm also encountering something that has me far more concerned. I have
> > only 12K on the truck, and am getting a very, very intermittent (once a
> > month or so) condition at hot idle, in "drive". The truck will be
> > idling
> > fine, then suddenly begin idling very irregularly, with a shake. If I
> > pump the gas, it seems to straighten right out. It never stalls, just
> > shakes for a few seconds until I bump the gas.
> >
> > Strangely enough, I've also encountered this in my 95 Windstar 3.8L. It
> >
> > is also very, very intermittent in that vehicle as well. My wife
> > brought the Windstar to the local dealer recently after it happened,
> > hoping to have them catch the problem. Of course, they could not
> > re-create it, nor did it show up as a stored trouble code. They
> > classified it as "drivability concern", which seems to be a catch-all
> > phrase for something that they cannot isolate.
> >
> > My concern is that there is some underlying problem that, of course,
> > will need to be fixed at my expense after the respective warranties
> > expire. Has anyone encountered and determined a fix for this idle
> > condition?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lou
> >
> > ==========================================================
> > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
> > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the
> > message.
> >
> >
>
>==========================================================
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>the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the
>message.
>

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From: davesomers worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: A/C smell
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 08:32:04 -0400

There is a TSB out for the A/C smell on the SuperDuty, that basically just
has you spraying an anti-mold into the heater-A/C air intake while the fan
is running to pull it in. Be careful not to use too much - you don't want
to have to smell the spray for the next week.
There are special fluids available for this sort of thing (including a Ford
product mentioned in the TSB), but some people just use lysol or a 10%
bleach spray. You want something that will kill mold and mildew, not just
hide the odor.
Keep it off the paint - a long wand like on a WD40 can could make this
easier.
I don't think that there is a permanent fix - apparently there is a low
spot in the intake tube that collects moisture, becoming a breeding ground.
I've added a spray to my maintenance list every time I do an oil change.
Dave Somers
-----Original Message-----
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 21:37:09 -0400
From: Lou Mallia attglobal.net>
Subject: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake
Now that A/C season is upon us here in Raleigh NC, I'm getting an awful
musty odor from the vents when I first turn on the A/C. I seem to
recall hearing about this a long time ago, and was wondering what to
expect from the dealer when I bring it in. No - scratch that, I'd like
to know what to DEMAND from the dealer in terms of a fix, when I bring
it in! Can this problem be permanently rectified? Can I fix it myself,
and
save myself time and aggrivation?


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Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 20:06:33 -0500
From: bridgtap swbell.net>
Subject: tonneau cover

I just moved to this list from the 80 up list after I sold my 89 f150.Now
have 97 and am learning to like it.I had fiberglass lift up on my 89 and got
along with it find but it seamed like I was taking it off about weekly to
haul one thing or another, higher than it would lift on the the cab side and
generally was, my better half that had to help me get it off(to prevent
damage).On this truck I decided to go with roll and lock roll top cover,they
are well made and fit well as each one is prefab for your truck when you
order it.It does lock in four open positions and double locks when closed
up.However with the last 4 or 5 days of 94 plus heat I did find it almost to
hot to open at home depoit.and you have to lube the side rails and clean the
top with a special lube they send you.I have notice some wind waver at 80
mph plus but nothing bad. all and all I have been happy with it No leaks to
speak of,3 drains in the front box to the outside of the bed yes you have to
drill out and install 3/4 tube they supply.And I did help the shop install
it if there is questions.will hold 5 sheets of drywall up under the front
box.


bridgtap swbell.net


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Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 16:31:01 -0400
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Supernationals Report, part I

Part one in a series of articles about the 22nd Annual F100
Supernationals in Pigeon Forge, Tennesee is now on the web
site.

Go to the main page of the site, www.ford-trucks.com, and
click on the link in the Recent Site additions.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts




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