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Please do not repost, forward or otherwise publish messages contained in these archives without consent from the respective author(s). These archives may not, in whole or part, be stored on any public retrieval system (FTP, web, gopher, newsgroup, etc.) by individuals or companies, without consent of the respective authors. Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 97up-list); Sun, 28 May 2000 15:31:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 15:31:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 97up-list digest users Reply-to: 97up-list Subject: 97up-list Digest V2000 #83 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1997 and Newer Truck Mailing List(Use the Small Chassis List for Rangers, Explorers, Aerostars and Bronco IIs. Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 97up-list Digest Thu, 25 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 083 In This Issue: Re: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake Tonneau Covers Re: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake Re: A/C smell tonneau cover ADMIN: Supernationals Report, part I ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith Veren" Subject: Re: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 02:24:36 -0400 Take it in, tell them to thoughouly clean the throttle-body and throttle plate and the assembly plate of any debris, carbon, or any other bad junk that has accumulated there, causing the throttle plate not to return smoothly. If they are nice, you may want to throw them a like an oil change or some thing. If they are NOT nice ask for a complete set of copies (originals if you can get the) describing you vehicles problem Most of the time when they here that they will take peek under the hood. I the car does not run write, talk to the service manager ( or do as I did and made friends with the Owner of the store). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Veren" To: <97up-list Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 1:47 AM Subject: [97up-list] Re: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake > Either you are a great aggressive four-wheeler, or they forgot to inststall > a deflector plate or cover. > > Keith > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lou Mallia" > To: "Ford Trucks" <97up-list > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:37 PM > Subject: [97up-list] A/C smell & intermittent idle shake > > > > Greetings! > > > > I have a 99 F-150 SC 4x4 with 4.6L and auto trans. > > > > Now that A/C season is upon us here in Raleigh NC, I'm getting an awful > > musty odor from the vents when I first turn on the A/C. I seem to > > recall hearing about this a long time ago, and was wondering what to > > expect from the dealer when I bring it in. No - scratch that, I'd like > > to know what to DEMAND from the dealer in terms of a fix, when I bring > > it in! Can this problem be permanently rectified? Can I fix it myself, > > and > > save myself time and aggrivation? > > > > I'm also encountering something that has me far more concerned. I have > > only 12K on the truck, and am getting a very, very intermittent (once a > > month or so) condition at hot idle, in "drive". The truck will be > > idling > > fine, then suddenly begin idling very irregularly, with a shake. If I > > pump the gas, it seems to straighten right out. It never stalls, just > > shakes for a few seconds until I bump the gas. > > > > Strangely enough, I've also encountered this in my 95 Windstar 3.8L. It > > > > is also very, very intermittent in that vehicle as well. My wife > > brought the Windstar to the local dealer recently after it happened, > > hoping to have them catch the problem. Of course, they could not > > re-create it, nor did it show up as a stored trouble code. They > > classified it as "drivability concern", which seems to be a catch-all > > phrase for something that they cannot isolate. > > > > My concern is that there is some underlying problem that, of course, > > will need to be fixed at my expense after the respective warranties > > expire. Has anyone encountered and determined a fix for this idle > > condition? > > > > Thanks, > > Lou > > > > ========================================================== > > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > > message. > > > > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. > ------------------------------ From: "Allemand, Andre'" Subject: Tonneau Covers Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 06:32:51 -0500 Tonneau Covers This is to who wants the Tonneau cover for his truck. I've tried the vinyl cover with the snaps and found it to be un reliable. I now have a Roll and lock brand aluminum cover. It paid for itself the first day I used it. It is 99% water tight. The only place that water comes in when it rains is right at the corner of the tailgate. During traveling, this is no problem. I work at Talladega during races as part of the fire and safety team. We haul tons of equipment to and from the track. This cover keeps everything dry, it also locks at four points. Two points on the tailgate and two on the bed rails. It is installed using clamps and the only place they drill is to mount the locking bar on the tailgate. The price was about 1100.00 installed at a local accessory shop. I thought it was pretty pricey, but, I'm very satisfied with it. It does not rattle or move during travel. It opens into five locking positions such as half bed, quarter bed. I have had many compliments and questions concerning it. Hope this helps. ------------------------------ From: "Mark Browning" Subject: Re: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 08:19:53 EDT i have a 99 regular cab f150 and it does the same thing when idoling it goes nuts the rpms don't move much but the engine does its like it wants to die but it doesn't..... and for the smell i never use the a/c and i get this rank smell after the truck sits in the sun for a bit.. i can't explain the smell the truck is immaculate... i never ate or drank anything in my truck and it still has a really noticable smell and its definitly not me... so i don't know what these problems are and i'm not going back to ford . I have never recieved such bad service in my life i will wait till the truck really goes bad and claim my warranty on it but till then i will suffer with the problems at hand... >From: "Keith Veren" >Reply-To: 97up-list >To: <97up-list >Subject: [97up-list] Re: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake >Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 01:47:20 -0400 > >Either you are a great aggressive four-wheeler, or they forgot to inststall >a deflector plate or cover. > >Keith > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lou Mallia" >To: "Ford Trucks" <97up-list >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:37 PM >Subject: [97up-list] A/C smell & intermittent idle shake > > > > Greetings! > > > > I have a 99 F-150 SC 4x4 with 4.6L and auto trans. > > > > Now that A/C season is upon us here in Raleigh NC, I'm getting an awful > > musty odor from the vents when I first turn on the A/C. I seem to > > recall hearing about this a long time ago, and was wondering what to > > expect from the dealer when I bring it in. No - scratch that, I'd like > > to know what to DEMAND from the dealer in terms of a fix, when I bring > > it in! Can this problem be permanently rectified? Can I fix it myself, > > and > > save myself time and aggrivation? > > > > I'm also encountering something that has me far more concerned. I have > > only 12K on the truck, and am getting a very, very intermittent (once a > > month or so) condition at hot idle, in "drive". The truck will be > > idling > > fine, then suddenly begin idling very irregularly, with a shake. If I > > pump the gas, it seems to straighten right out. It never stalls, just > > shakes for a few seconds until I bump the gas. > > > > Strangely enough, I've also encountered this in my 95 Windstar 3.8L. It > > > > is also very, very intermittent in that vehicle as well. My wife > > brought the Windstar to the local dealer recently after it happened, > > hoping to have them catch the problem. Of course, they could not > > re-create it, nor did it show up as a stored trouble code. They > > classified it as "drivability concern", which seems to be a catch-all > > phrase for something that they cannot isolate. > > > > My concern is that there is some underlying problem that, of course, > > will need to be fixed at my expense after the respective warranties > > expire. Has anyone encountered and determined a fix for this idle > > condition? > > > > Thanks, > > Lou > > > > ========================================================== > > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > > message. > > > > > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the >message. > ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: davesomers Subject: Re: A/C smell Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 08:32:04 -0400 There is a TSB out for the A/C smell on the SuperDuty, that basically just has you spraying an anti-mold into the heater-A/C air intake while the fan is running to pull it in. Be careful not to use too much - you don't want to have to smell the spray for the next week. There are special fluids available for this sort of thing (including a Ford product mentioned in the TSB), but some people just use lysol or a 10% bleach spray. You want something that will kill mold and mildew, not just hide the odor. Keep it off the paint - a long wand like on a WD40 can could make this easier. I don't think that there is a permanent fix - apparently there is a low spot in the intake tube that collects moisture, becoming a breeding ground. I've added a spray to my maintenance list every time I do an oil change. Dave Somers -----Original Message----- Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 21:37:09 -0400 From: Lou Mallia Subject: A/C smell & intermittent idle shake Now that A/C season is upon us here in Raleigh NC, I'm getting an awful musty odor from the vents when I first turn on the A/C. I seem to recall hearing about this a long time ago, and was wondering what to expect from the dealer when I bring it in. No - scratch that, I'd like to know what to DEMAND from the dealer in terms of a fix, when I bring it in! Can this problem be permanently rectified? Can I fix it myself, and save myself time and aggrivation? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 20:06:33 -0500 From: bridgtap Subject: tonneau cover I just moved to this list from the 80 up list after I sold my 89 f150.Now have 97 and am learning to like it.I had fiberglass lift up on my 89 and got along with it find but it seamed like I was taking it off about weekly to haul one thing or another, higher than it would lift on the the cab side and generally was, my better half that had to help me get it off(to prevent damage).On this truck I decided to go with roll and lock roll top cover,they are well made and fit well as each one is prefab for your truck when you order it.It does lock in four open positions and double locks when closed up.However with the last 4 or 5 days of 94 plus heat I did find it almost to hot to open at home depoit.and you have to lube the side rails and clean the top with a special lube they send you.I have notice some wind waver at 80 mph plus but nothing bad. all and all I have been happy with it No leaks to speak of,3 drains in the front box to the outside of the bed yes you have to drill out and install 3/4 tube they supply.And I did help the shop install it if there is questions.will hold 5 sheets of drywall up under the front box. bridgtap ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 16:31:01 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: Supernationals Report, part I Part one in a series of articles about the 22nd Annual F100 Supernationals in Pigeon Forge, Tennesee is now on the web site. Go to the main page of the site, www.ford-trucks.com, and click on the link in the Recent Site additions. Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ End of 97up-list Digest V2000 #83 ********************************* .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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