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97up-list Digest Mon, 22 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 080

In This Issue:
Re: Xenon Headlights
Re: Xenon Headlights
Vibration (grinding) while accelerating 2,100 RPM
Re: Vibration (grinding) while accelerating 2,100 RPM
Re: Vibration (grinding) while accelerating 2,1
Re: Vibration (grinding) while accelerating 2,1
Popping in the front suspension of my 2000 F150 4X4
Dreaded Check Engine Light
Rear Hangers
Re: Dreaded Check Engine Light

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar_Huse?= bgnett.no>
Subject: Re: Xenon Headlights
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:32:54 +0200

>I was wondering if anyone else has tried them and if they
>liked them or not?
>Thanks!
>Chris
>------------------------------

A friend has a transport business with two (Mercedes) vans in traffic. One
has "standard" Hella aux lights, the other xenon lights. The difference is
astounding. If I had a business and was dependent on the rig to keep the
dinares rolling in, I'd have no problem justifying them. As a private person
on a personal rig; hmmmm... They're awful expensive... I don't think so...
(I'm ready to get a set of square Hella 220s in the Luverne grille guard on
my Excursion. I go for looks as well as function...). Lots of deer and stuff
here too. My Excursion came with "Euro lights", but they put out less light
than the standard lights, so I swapped back. See
www.bgnett.no/~bjornar/truck.html

Bjørnar




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From: jmann living.com
Subject: Re: Xenon Headlights
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:44:57 -0500

(Does any one know the standard wattage output or bulb type for the F150,
2000 in my case.)

Chris,

Xenon/Gas Discharge/HID headlights will most likely not work in you truck.
TRUE Xenon light conversions are over $1000 and require a ballast, similar
to florescent lights. If someone tries to sell you just a "bulb" and claims
it's a Xenon bulb that will work with your truck, they're jerking your
chain!

Try looking into upgrading to a brighter Halogen bulb. There seems to be
some good info on the following web page.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/info/bulb_types/

Joe


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From: Cop786 aol.com [mailto:Cop786 aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 6:04 PM
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Subject: [97up-list] Xenon Headlights

I was thinking of ordering a pair of extra bright xenon headlights for my
truck so I can see a little better when driving home at night (Lots of deer
in the area). I was wondering if anyone else has tried them and if they
liked them or not?
Thanks!
Chris
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From: "Craig, Dennis" intel.com>
Subject: Vibration (grinding) while accelerating 2,100 RPM
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 10:33:55 -0700

gang,
I have a 1999 SD CC, V-10 and while accelerating, gradually or fast doesn't
matter, I am getting a vibration 2,100 RPMs. It happens in every gear
regardless of speed. The slower I go the longer it will last while passing
through this RPM zone. It feels to me that it is the tranny because it seems
to happen right before/during shifting up. But it isn't gear specific. Could
it be the torque converter?

I had it in the shop and the Ford dealership initially tried replacing the
exhaust manifold brackets with no help. I asked the dealer this morning what
the issue was and he said FoMoCo didn't know, and that there was a TSB on
it, anybody have the TSB?

thanks, dennis



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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:03:57 -0500
From: kline002 bama.ua.edu>
Subject: Re: Vibration (grinding) while accelerating 2,100 RPM

Dennis,
Here is the NHTSA web site for recalls and TSB's on specific vehicles. Hope
this helps. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/
BamaFord

>
>I had it in the shop and the Ford dealership initially tried replacing the
>exhaust manifold brackets with no help. I asked the dealer this morning what
>the issue was and he said FoMoCo didn't know, and that there was a TSB on
>it, anybody have the TSB?
>
>thanks, dennis

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Paul S. Kline
Dept. of Geology
The University of Alabama
P.O.Box 870338
Tuscaloosa, Al. 35487-0338
Office: 205-348-9293
kline002 bama.ua.edu


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From: "Strukel, Mike" westgroup.com>
Subject: Re: Vibration (grinding) while accelerating 2,1
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:27:04 -0500

The tsb that you are probably refering to is the one that has to do with a
resonance at 2100rpm through the exhaust system. They hang a 2lb weight on
the exhaust at a certain spot. That cancels out the vibration. I had
this on mine, but I removed the stock exhaust and installed a cat back
system. Mo more vibration.

Mike
99 F250SD SC, V10, Superchip, 2"Superlift, 35x12.50 BFG Mud Terrains

-----Original Message-----
From: kline002 [mailto:kline002 bama.ua.edu]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 1:04 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Vibration (grinding) while accelerating 2,100
RPM


Dennis,
Here is the NHTSA web site for recalls and TSB's on specific vehicles. Hope
this helps. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/
BamaFord

>
>I had it in the shop and the Ford dealership initially tried replacing the
>exhaust manifold brackets with no help. I asked the dealer this morning
what
>the issue was and he said FoMoCo didn't know, and that there was a TSB on
>it, anybody have the TSB?
>
>thanks, dennis

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Paul S. Kline
Dept. of Geology
The University of Alabama
P.O.Box 870338
Tuscaloosa, Al. 35487-0338
Office: 205-348-9293
kline002 bama.ua.edu

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From: "Craig, Dennis" intel.com>
Subject: Re: Vibration (grinding) while accelerating 2,1
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:37:38 -0700

thanks for the responses.
I found the TSB numbers on this issue, i missed the diagnosis by 100 rpm.
Does anybody have #680 and #710 they could forward on to me. The dealer has
tried something, not sure if it is the 21 lb weight or not, I will check.
Regardless it didn't fix it or even quiet it down. Funny thing it didn't
start doing this until I hit about 10K.

dc


Service Bulletin Number: 060199
Bulletin Sequence Number: 680
Date of Bulletin: 9906
NHTSA Item Number: SB606803
Make: FORD TRUCK
Model: F SUPER DUTY
Year: 1999
Component: POWER TRAIN
Summary: SOME VEHICLES MAY EXHIBIT A POWERTRAIN MOAN AROUND 2200 RPM. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number: 9912791
Bulletin Sequence Number: 710
Date of Bulletin: 9905
NHTSA Item Number: SB607108
Make: FORD TRUCK
Model: F SUPER DUTY
Year: 1999
Component: POWER TRAIN
Summary: ADDRESSING CONCERNS OF POWERTRAIN MOAN AROUND 2200 RPM. *TT






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From: Strukel, Mike [mailto:Mike.Strukel westgroup.com]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 11:27 AM
To: '97up-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Vibration (grinding) while accelerating 2,1
00 RPM


The tsb that you are probably refering to is the one that has to do with a
resonance at 2100rpm through the exhaust system. They hang a 2lb weight on
the exhaust at a certain spot. That cancels out the vibration. I had
this on mine, but I removed the stock exhaust and installed a cat back
system. Mo more vibration.

Mike
99 F250SD SC, V10, Superchip, 2"Superlift, 35x12.50 BFG Mud Terrains

-----Original Message-----
From: kline002 [mailto:kline002 bama.ua.edu]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 1:04 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Vibration (grinding) while accelerating 2,100
RPM


Dennis,
Here is the NHTSA web site for recalls and TSB's on specific vehicles. Hope
this helps. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/
BamaFord

>
>I had it in the shop and the Ford dealership initially tried replacing the
>exhaust manifold brackets with no help. I asked the dealer this morning
what
>the issue was and he said FoMoCo didn't know, and that there was a TSB on
>it, anybody have the TSB?
>
>thanks, dennis

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Paul S. Kline
Dept. of Geology
The University of Alabama
P.O.Box 870338
Tuscaloosa, Al. 35487-0338
Office: 205-348-9293
kline002 bama.ua.edu

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From: jmann living.com
Subject: Popping in the front suspension of my 2000 F150 4X4
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:01:04 -0500

Well, with 6300 miles on my 2000 F150 Lariat 4x4 I've started hearing a
loud, or at least audible, popping in the front suspension when performing
low speed tight turning maneuvers, like parallel parking and maneuvering
around parking lots.

Any ideas? Remember it's a 4x4.

Thanks,

Joe


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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:42:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brett Habben juno.com>
Subject: Dreaded Check Engine Light

Folks,
The dreaded "Check Engine" light has come on a '97 F150 4.6.with 89,000
miles. It seems to run fine. Where do you start troubleshooting? The
owners manual mentions the Big Brother ODB II computer detecting an
emissions related problem as a possible cause. It has had normal maintenance
including fuel and air filters replaced. It's been rainy and wet lately, if
that matters. Is this a case where you really have to dump the computers
error log to figure out what the cause is? If so, what's the cheapest way
to get to this info?
Thanks in advance,
Brett


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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:51:46 -0400
From: Dean Baruffi yale.edu>
Subject: Rear Hangers

Well,

I put on the new 2" lower rear hangers this weekend on my 2000 F-150 SC
4x2. It was not an easy feat. I had to grind off the rivet heads and then
drill out all the rivets (8 in all) The most important part of the whole
install was to secure the frame so that when the old hangers are removed
the 2 piece frame doesn't decide to move (the hangers hold the frame
together here).

I did not put on the 2" drop shackles as I am waiting to do the 2" drop
coils up front first. The shackles will be a piece of cake compared to the
hangers.

If anyone wants more info on this procedure, feel free to email me.

The truck looks killer now!

-Dean



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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:07:32 -0700
From: Glenn See telapex.com>
Subject: Re: Dreaded Check Engine Light

My 4.6 did the same thing at about 45,000 mi. At a local community college
program I found that the no. 4 plug had been fouling out. The dealer
mechanic confirmed the finding, put some grease around the plug. Said
evidently water had leaked into the cavity and cause the miss. They only
charged 75.00 for the tablespoon of grease. Said that Ford had a new fix
for this problem for almost 200.00. I have over 60,000 on the original
plugs. If you have the original plugs and the wet weather you mentioned,
you may have the same problem. Good luck in finding a cheap solution.....


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