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Please do not repost, forward or otherwise publish messages contained in these archives without consent from the respective author(s). These archives may not, in whole or part, be stored on any public retrieval system (FTP, web, gopher, newsgroup, etc.) by individuals or companies, without consent of the respective authors. Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 97up-list); Thu, 11 May 2000 14:42:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:42:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 97up-list digest users Reply-to: 97up-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 97up-list Digest V2000 #72 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1997 and Newer Truck Mailing List(Use the Small Chassis List for Rangers, Explorers, Aerostars and Bronco IIs. Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 97up-list Digest Wed, 10 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 072 In This Issue: Re: Performance Chips, again Re: Performance Chips, again Re: F350 Payloads Wide Open Throtle (WOT) Re: Payloads Re: Performance Chips, again Superchips Re: Superchips Rear Hangers Tow Pkg Wiring Re: Tow Pkg Wiring Re: Tow Pkg Wiring ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJBurry aol.com Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 15:15:59 EDT Subject: Re: Performance Chips, again WOT = Wide open throttle... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:54:33 -0500 From: Stan Wright Subject: Re: Performance Chips, again Wide Open Throttle. Charles Abraham wrote: > I'll bite, what's "WOT"? > > Steve #1 wrote: > > > Hypertech only works at WOT. > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ From: "Steve J. Hodson" Subject: Re: F350 Payloads Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 17:15:46 -0400 Your point about pulling vs hauling is spot on. If you look at the spec sheets an F-350 srw is rated to carry less than the identical drw, but rated to tow more. If you don't specifically want a drop in camper it migbt be cheaper to get a 5th wheel instead trading a srw truck for a drw or F450-550. -----Original Message----- From: Erik Marquez To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com <97up-list ford-trucks.com> Date: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 8:57 PM Subject: [97up-list] Re: F350 Payloads >with all the discussion on payload and camper weight, I ponder this.. just >what truck do you buy to carry that new 4k pound camper, 2~4 adults and all >the gear that goes with them??? > >I guess my 97 F350 CC PSD 4x4 is more a puller than a hualer :-( > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the >message. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:41:48 -0700 (PDT) From: JA Turner Subject: Wide Open Throtle (WOT) Wide Open Throtle (WOT) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:09:09 -0500 From: "Charles Abraham" Subject: Re: Performance Chips, again I'll bite, what's "WOT"? Steve #1 wrote: > Hypertech only works at WOT. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 15:00:36 -0700 From: Bill Funk Subject: Re: Payloads I have to admit my surprise. This is a *TRUCK* list, and it seems that no one knows how to buy a truck Having specced several trucks in the past, I can tell you how to do it: *FIRST*, determine your payload. *THEN*, purchase the truck to haul the payload. This means that if you want to carry a camper, you determine which camper you want first. When you do this, make sure you have a realistic idea of what that camper will weigh wet, loaded. That means with all your gear, food, dishes, soap, silverware, dog food, bedding, EVERYTHING in it. Don't forget ice, drinks, souvenirs, etc. Now you're ready to look for a truck. Given how much the payload for the camper is, add the weights of passengers & everything that will be in the cab. If you want options (grill guard, running boards, whatever), add these weights, too. Now look at the truck itself. Want crewcab? Diesel? 4X4? All these add weight to the truck, and reduce available payload. During this procedure, you may decide that you don't need all that camper. That's great! Now's the time to find out! However, if your estimates come within 75-80% of the truck's maximum payload, it would be wise to look at either a lighter camper or heavier truck. In many cases, we find that that F-350, 4X4, CC, P/S truck is so optioned out that there's no meaningful payload capacity left. In that case, there's a hard decision to be made: give up the camper, or buy a new truck. The F-450/550 trucks would make an extremely good choice for this type of use, especially since we seem to want the extras on the truck. The days of being happy with a bare-bones F-whatever are long gone - and with good reason! This does require a rethinking about trucks, though. The more we want to carry, whether we see it as creature comforts or payload, the bigger we need to go in truck size. I see this as the cost of admission. -- Bill Funk Doesn't a lightning rod on a church steeple show a lack of faith? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:28:39 -0700 From: Ralph Lindberg Subject: Re: Performance Chips, again >There is one significant difference in the Superchip and the Hypertech. The >Hypertech only works at WOT. The Superchip is worth the cost premium over the >Hypertech. >-- > Steve #1 Could you tell were you learned this, nothing I have seen in the Hypertech publications imply that it only kicks in at WOT. Ralph Lindberg ICQ 5988954 RV and Camping FAQ Just because MS-Window's holds 90% of the market doesn't mean it's superior. Remember 90% of all animals are insects. ------------------------------ From: "Ian R. Poyntz" Subject: Superchips Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:07:35 +0800 Forgive the ignorance, but do they make superchips for gas engines like the 5.4 L or only for diesel engines? If so do they work well on gas engines? Thanks, Ian... NEW ! ! ! ! CLICK HERE TO REPLY: poyntz canada.com ATTITUDE IS CONTAGIOUS... Is yours worth catching? ------------------------------ From: "Christian Bagley" Subject: Re: Superchips Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 06:54:45 EDT Yes, they make them for the 5.4L and the 4.6L and many many more. I have one in my 4.6 and have been very pleased with it. If you want it for power and are not concerned about running premium fuel then it is the best performance booster you can add for the money. Chris n va >>Forgive the ignorance, but do they make superchips for gas engines like >>the 5.4 L or only for diesel engines? If so do they work well on gas >>engines? ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 07:29:28 -0400 From: Dean Baruffi Subject: Rear Hangers Has anyone installed a 2"/4" front/rear suspession drop on a 1997 - 2000 F-150? The kit I have uses coil springs in the front and shackles and hangers in the rear. I am interested in knowing how to tackle the removal of the rear hangers as the stock hangers hold the 2 piece frame together. If you remove the rear hangers, the back portion of the frame will become detached from the front portion of the frame. Any ideas? Thanks, -Dean ------------------------------ From: "Pete Calabrese" Subject: Tow Pkg Wiring Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:31:03 -0400 I took the advice and got the DrawTiteII - showed up the other day. I know that there is supposed to be a wiring harness under the dash if you have the trailer tow pkg on your SD. Only problem is I see 3 different harnesses under my fuse panel and they aren't labeled. Anyone know which is the correct set to use for the quick/painless brake controller installation? Thanks! Pete ___________________________________________________________________ 1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver 493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back... Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com 1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped! 2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:21:05 -0700 From: johny Subject: Re: Tow Pkg Wiring If you have the wiring harness from Ford, (part of the trailer tow package), I think it's a 6 pin connector, that has 5 wires, and only 4 of which you will use. The hot lead is connected to a 30Amp fuse which is located in a fuse box which is next to the master brake cylinder in the engine bay. All the other fuses are there too. I used a test light to verify hot, and brake pedal activation. The other two leads are ground and brake controller. The connector is in the vicinity behind the "cubbyhole" in the dash. The other 2 connectors I am aware of are: - test port located just below the ash tray - aux idle control port located on the lower metal brace below the steering wheel column. I currently use the default settings, as described in the docs, of 4o for "sync" and 2 for "whatever it's called". Seems to work just fine for a 3 horse slant loaded w/ 2 horses. (roughly 3000 - 4000 lbs total weight). I'm still trying to decide where to mount the controller though. Either in the flat spot under the "cubbyhole" or on the far left, on the removable panel, just below the fuse block. Pete Calabrese wrote: > I took the advice and got the DrawTiteII - showed up the other day. I know > that there is supposed to be a wiring harness under the dash if you have the > trailer tow pkg on your SD. Only problem is I see 3 different harnesses > under my fuse panel and they aren't labeled. > > Anyone know which is the correct set to use for the quick/painless brake > controller installation? > > Thanks! > > Pete > > ___________________________________________________________________ > 1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver > 493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back... > Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com > 1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped! > 2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ From: "Pete Calabrese" Subject: Re: Tow Pkg Wiring Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:42:00 -0400 Thanks....my weight should be about the same so I'll try that. Those are the exact two spots that I was considering. The fuse panel can be replaced, but it might get in the way entering/exiting the vehicle. ___________________________________________________________________ 1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver 493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back... Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com 1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped! 2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually -----Original Message----- From: 97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com [mailto:97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of johny Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 1:21 PM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [97up-list] Re: Tow Pkg Wiring If you have the wiring harness from Ford, (part of the trailer tow package), I think it's a 6 pin connector, that has 5 wires, and only 4 of which you will use. The hot lead is connected to a 30Amp fuse which is located in a fuse box which is next to the master brake cylinder in the engine bay. All the other fuses are there too. I used a test light to verify hot, and brake pedal activation. The other two leads are ground and brake controller. The connector is in the vicinity behind the "cubbyhole" in the dash. The other 2 connectors I am aware of are: - test port located just below the ash tray - aux idle control port located on the lower metal brace below the steering wheel column. I currently use the default settings, as described in the docs, of 4o for "sync" and 2 for "whatever it's called". Seems to work just fine for a 3 horse slant loaded w/ 2 horses. (roughly 3000 - 4000 lbs total weight). I'm still trying to decide where to mount the controller though. Either in the flat spot under the "cubbyhole" or on the far left, on the removable panel, just below the fuse block. Pete Calabrese wrote: > I took the advice and got the DrawTiteII - showed up the other day. I know > that there is supposed to be a wiring harness under the dash if you have the > trailer tow pkg on your SD. Only problem is I see 3 different harnesses > under my fuse panel and they aren't labeled. > > Anyone know which is the correct set to use for the quick/painless brake > controller installation? > > Thanks! > > Pete > > ___________________________________________________________________ > 1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver > 493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back... > Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com > 1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped! > 2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the > message. ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ....To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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