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97up-list Digest Tue, 09 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 071

In This Issue:
F350 Payloads
Re: F350 Payloads
Re: F350 Payloads
Performance Chips, again
Payload
Re: Performance Chips, again
Big, BAD, Pickups and SUVs (consumer reports article) to b
Re: Performance Chips, again
Re: Performance Chips, again

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From: "Bruce Dane" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: F350 Payloads
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:18:52 -0400


Reference recent posts concerning payload of these trucks - I certainly agree that the best way to find out what you can really carry is to weigh the truck, fully fueled with all the passengers on board and with all the stuff you intend to carry, and subtract that from the GVWR. I have a '99 F350 4x4 diesel. It weighs in "wet" at 7350 pounds. Subtract that from the 9900 pound GVWR and it leaves only around 2500 pounds of payload capacity. I'm having a tough time finding a decent slide in camper that stays within this limit. Still, I wouldn't trade it for a gas motor!

Bruce Dane


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Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 18:39:12 -0700
From: johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: F350 Payloads

Popup sliders meet the criteria. Northstar even makes some pretty nice ones.
Lance lite makes a potential camper in your weight range.

But the top-end hardsided campers (Lance, Bigfoot, Elkhorn, Alpenlite etc),
are in the 3000 - 4000 lb range, by the time you start adding options.

New this year is "slide outs" on truck campers. More weight.
F450 or F550 starts to look real appealing, especially if you are
looking at a 75% under max GVWR buffer.

My impression is that the newer campers use lighter material, but
keep adding back in "upscale" stuff, for a net heavier weight of camper.


Bruce Dane wrote:

> Reference recent posts concerning payload of these trucks - I certainly agree that the best way to find out what you can really carry is to weigh the truck, fully fueled with all the passengers on board and with all the stuff you intend to carry, and subtract that from the GVWR. I have a '99 F350 4x4 diesel. It weighs in "wet" at 7350 pounds. Subtract that from the 9900 pound GVWR and it leaves only around 2500 pounds of payload capacity. I'm having a tough time finding a decent slide in camper that stays within this limit. Still, I wouldn't trade it for a gas motor!
>
> Bruce Dane




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From: "Erik Marquez" alaska.com>
Subject: Re: F350 Payloads
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 17:53:38 -0800

with all the discussion on payload and camper weight, I ponder this.. just
what truck do you buy to carry that new 4k pound camper, 2~4 adults and all
the gear that goes with them???

I guess my 97 F350 CC PSD 4x4 is more a puller than a hualer :-(


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Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 20:47:20 +0100
Subject: Performance Chips, again
From: Kirk Werner Werner.org>

Howdy all,

sorry for the duplication, but I was unable to receive email for the past 3
days. Any messages which were sent to my address would have been bounced as
undeliverable due to server outages. Because of this, I never received any
list mailing with regard to my request for chip module information. I had
asked if any of you had information/opinions on any performance chips other
than Superchips, as Superchips are the only ones I've looked into. What
gains in HP and Torque do other chips claim to offer?

Thanks for resending any information.

Kirk


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From: "Ian R. Poyntz" canada.com>
Subject: Payload
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:16:47 +0800


Hey Guys:

I have a stock 1999 F250 SB SC 4x4 with the payload package. I filled the tank, got in, weighed the front and rear axles and ended up with a LEGAL payload capacity of 2,550 pounds. In British Columbia last summer the gov't decided it would penalize trucks over the GVWR so before I bought I checked actual weights with truck, fuel, me and camper.

Most small 8-9 foot campers weigh in at 1,600 pounds dry with no stores. HOWEVER, I bought a second hand (1988) 'Bigfoot', all fiberglass, 8.5 foot camper which only weighs 962 pounds! When you put in on the truck you hardly know it is there it is so light.

The point of this story is... if you find yourself with a truck with insufficient payload capacity look for light weight campers. They do exist.

Ian...



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From: RSnovi aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 12:49:34 EDT
Subject: Re: Performance Chips, again

In a message dated 5/9/00 11:48:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Kirk Werner.org
writes:


Either Superchips or hypertech, both are very similar.Hypertech are cheaper,
i got mine through dieselpage.com , diesel service it TX. Great people to
deal with. Both will get you about the same #'s power wise.


RS
<<
Howdy all,

sorry for the duplication, but I was unable to receive email for the past 3
days. Any messages which were sent to my address would have been bounced as
undeliverable due to server outages. Because of this, I never received any
list mailing with regard to my request for chip module information. I had
asked if any of you had information/opinions on any performance chips other
than Superchips, as Superchips are the only ones I've looked into. What
gains in HP and Torque do other chips claim to offer?

Thanks for resending any information.

Kirk >>

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From: "Keith Veren" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Big, BAD, Pickups and SUVs (consumer reports article) to b
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:48:43 -0400

Just read Consumer Reports latest issue. They hated the Excursion (rides
like a truck-what did they expect, it is built on the F-350 frame). Of
course, they loved the little SUVs that looked like minivans and had the
ground clearance of a mouse. They said that both Ford and Chevy are going
to "lighten-up" the heavy SUVs, lower them, weaken them, etc., etc. So they
don't hurt people driving tiny eggshells. If you want a Large, SAFE, Heavy,
Strong, Tall, SUV, you better buy soon, or they will soon be "wimpified" by
2002 to 2004. They have even already started, look at the Suburban, it is
now much lighter, shorter, lower, etc.

Keith


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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:21:59 -0500
From: Steve #1 swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Performance Chips, again

RSnovi aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 5/9/00 11:48:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Kirk Werner.org
> writes:
>
> Either Superchips or hypertech, both are very similar.Hypertech are cheaper,
> i got mine through dieselpage.com , diesel service it TX. Great people to
> deal with. Both will get you about the same #'s power wise.
>
> RS

There is one significant difference in the Superchip and the Hypertech. The
Hypertech only works at WOT. The Superchip is worth the cost premium over the
Hypertech.
--
Steve #1

'99 F150 "Little Foot" Regular Cab XLT 5.4 4X4
'97 Mustang GT 4.6 < FOR SALE >
'87 K5 Blazer "Monster" Silverado 350 4X4 < FOR SALE >

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/f15099/

When you come to a fork in the road...
Go straight.



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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:09:09 -0500
From: "Charles Abraham" agcs.com>
Subject: Re: Performance Chips, again

I'll bite, what's "WOT"?

Steve #1 wrote:

> Hypertech only works at WOT.


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