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97up-list Digest Thu, 04 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 067

In This Issue:
A QUESTION
Re: Fwd: Expedition Questions
FW: VIRUS ALERT UPDATE- "ILOVEYOU" virus
Re: FW: VIRUS ALERT UPDATE- "ILOVEYOU" virus
VIRUS WARNING! (Yes this is REAL!)
Rhino liner experience
Fuel/Water Valve?
Re: Rhino liner experience
Re: Fuel/Water Valve?
Re: Fuel/Water Valve?
Re: Fuel/Water Valve?
ADMIN: Re: Re: FW: VIRUS ALERT UPDATE- "ILOVEYOU" virus
97 F350 PowerStroke Crewcab payload & Dually questions
Re: ADMIN: Re: Re: FW: VIRUS ALERT UPDATE- "ILOVEYOU"
SEMA Action Network Legislative Alert - U.S. House of
Re: 97 F350 PowerStroke Crewcab payload & Dually questions
Re: 97 F350 PowerStroke Crewcab payload & Dually questions

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From: "Mark Browning" hotmail.com>
Subject: A QUESTION
Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 09:32:07 EDT

Well again i have a few questions 1 is the wiper system... there starting to
go off on there own now more often then ever. does anyone know if i could
just buy a new switch or do i have to get an electrical system check or
something... 2 i've started noticing that when i am picking up speed fast my
tranny feels like its smashing the gear into place (shifting extremely hard)
any known reasoning??? 3 i have a vibration on my engine when stopped it
feels like its going to die my rpms are around 600 to 900 is that ok... and
also if anyone could tell me about the more horse power chip the super chip
what it does and how much canadian and tell me thinks to look for and how to
match the code for the truck.. stuff like that would be great thanks
99 Ford F-150 4.2L 2wd long box regular cab
________________________________________________________________________


------------------------------

From: RSnovi aol.com
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:34:03 EDT
Subject: Re: Fwd: Expedition Questions

In a message dated 5/3/00 11:05:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ty1911 webtv.net
writes:

I know quite a few people whom have added all you listed, all depending on
what exactly you want I can refer you to whom has the best service for each
product. most just do exhaust, and s/c, mass air meter, and put a lowering
kit , wheels, etc. Thats pretty much bolt on stuff that will really help it
out.

RS
<<
I was just wondering if any expedition owners has performanced modified
theirs (intake, exhaust, supercharger (which one?), droppped?). Thanks,
Alan




Alan & Ku'uipo DeRego
'93 Blue / Grey Typhoon
Hawaii Representatives
of www.SyTy.org
Ty1911 WebTV.net >>

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From: jmann living.com
Subject: FW: VIRUS ALERT UPDATE- "ILOVEYOU" virus
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:00:56 -0500

Friends and Family,

I just received this ALERT from our Network Operations Center here in
Austin. This is an ACTUAL virus.

More info can be found at ...
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/vbs.loveletter.a.html

Always be careful when opening atachemnts.

Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Osterholm
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 9:26 AM
To: 0-Austin
Subject: VIRUS ALERT UPDATE- "ILOVEYOU" virus

There's an e-mail virus coursing through the Internet bearing the
title "ILOVEYOU". This is an actual virus that the Austin NOC has
seen and confirmed with SAIC and Symantec's web sites.

DELETE ANY MESSAGE WITH THE SUBJECT OF "ILOVEYOU"! DO NOT OPEN THE MESSAGE,
DO NOT FORWARD IT TO THE NOC.
Do not reply to any mail list other than 0-NOC with your concerns!
WSJ Interactive reports that it was creating havoc in Asia on
Thursday afternoon.

It appears there is no antivirus program immediately available to
fight it at this time. We use Norton AntiVirus, and will send out
updates as soon as they are available.

It is understood that the virus corrupts the Internet Explorer browser
and Microsoft's Outlook e-mail and office system.

Here's more details that I have stitched together from various
sources...

VBS_LOVELETTER (continued from profile page)
In the wild: Yes
Trigger date 1: Any Day
Payload 1: Others (spreads via email and mIRC)
Detected by pattern file#: 693
Detected by scan engine#: 5.12
Language: English
Platform: Windows
Encrypted: No
Size of virus: 10,307 Bytes

Details:
Once executed, this virus drops the following files:
\windows\Win32DLL.vbs
\system\MSKernel32.vbs
\system\LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs.

NOTE: An additional piece of data we discovered not covered in this data is
that the virus also reassociates jpg, jpeg, mpeg, mpg, mp3 files to the
Windows Scripting host. If these files are opened after being infected, it
will rerun the virus.
It also modifies the following registry entries so that the virus is run at
each Windows starts up:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\Run\MSKernel32",
:\windows\system \MSKernel32.vbs

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\RunServices\Win32DLL",
:\windows\Win32DLL.vbs.

It searches for a file named WinFAT32.exe in the :\windows\system
folder. If the file exists, then it modifies Internet Explorers startup page
with one of the following sites:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.skyinet.net/~young1s/
HJKhjnwerhjkxcvytwertnMTFwetrdsfmhPnjw6587345gvsdf7679njbvYT/
WIN-BUGSFIX.exe

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.skyinet.net/~angelcat/skladjflfdjghKJnwetryDGFikjUIy

qwerWe546786324hjk4jnHHGbvbmKLJKjhkqj4w/
WIN-BUGSFIX.exe

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.skyinet.net/~koichi/
jf6TRjkcbGRpGqaq198vbFV5hfFEkbopBdQZnmPOhfgER67b3Vbvg/
WIN-BUGSFIX.exe
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.skyinet.net/~chu/sdgfhjksdfjklNBmnfgkKLHjkqwtuHJBh

AFSDGjkhYUgqwerasdjhPhjasfdglkNBhbqwebmznxcbvnmadshfgqw
237461234iuy7thjg/WIN-BUGSFIX.exe

It also searches for a file named WIN-BUGSFIX.exe in the
:\windows\system folder. If the file does not exists, then it modifies
Internet Explorers startup page with "about:blank" page and modifies the
registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\Run\WIN-BUGSFIX, \WIN-BUGSFIX.exe

This worm primarily propagates using Microsoft Outlook by sending an email
with an attachment file "LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs" to all email addresses
listed in the address list with the Subject: ILOVEYOU
Other than this, it starts modifying the mIRCs script.ini file by
overwriting the script.ini. After connecting to a chat server using mIRC,
the virus initiates a DCC send to all the users in the current channel and
sends a copy of itself, "LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.HTM"

------------------------------

From: "Pete Calabrese" banet.net>
Subject: Re: FW: VIRUS ALERT UPDATE- "ILOVEYOU" virus
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 11:23:21 -0400

Speaking from an IT standpoint....

It already has gone through here at work this morning - this is my first
chance to breathe. Started in HongKong late last night and replicates as
fast - if not faster than Melissa. Without flying off topic, try to catch
this one early! It took down 2 exchange servers here.

___________________________________________________________________
1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver
493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually

-----Original Message-----
From: 97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of jmann living.com
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 11:01 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com; volp prodigy.net;
anjanetteg eurekasoft.com; cmannk execpc.com; horsluvr ev1.net;
centexvwaudi concero.com; jbraun fuse.net; efinn n2net.net;
Brian.Gutierrez gtedc.gte.com; jrisinger TEPPCO.COM;
lstaley di.mdacc.tmc.edu; Lewbernard aol.com; sum.lo prodigy.net;
LPASINSKI aamescorp.com; Irishky10 fuse.net; pfinn infoengineering.com;
rkeimowi gc.gundluth.org; swigser one.net; Stacey.Longust Eng.Sun.COM;
JShield brobeck.com; SKEIMOWITZ OJRNR.COM; trenkamp cu-online.com;
toms tomsscuba.com; wigser.sarahb kendle.com; AMahon9448 aol.com
Subject: [97up-list] FW: VIRUS ALERT UPDATE- "ILOVEYOU" virus


Friends and Family,

I just received this ALERT from our Network Operations Center here in
Austin. This is an ACTUAL virus.

More info can be found at ...
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/vbs.loveletter.a.html

Always be careful when opening atachemnts.

Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Osterholm
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 9:26 AM
To: 0-Austin
Subject: VIRUS ALERT UPDATE- "ILOVEYOU" virus

There's an e-mail virus coursing through the Internet bearing the
title "ILOVEYOU". This is an actual virus that the Austin NOC has
seen and confirmed with SAIC and Symantec's web sites.

DELETE ANY MESSAGE WITH THE SUBJECT OF "ILOVEYOU"! DO NOT OPEN THE MESSAGE,
DO NOT FORWARD IT TO THE NOC.
Do not reply to any mail list other than 0-NOC with your concerns!
WSJ Interactive reports that it was creating havoc in Asia on
Thursday afternoon.

It appears there is no antivirus program immediately available to
fight it at this time. We use Norton AntiVirus, and will send out
updates as soon as they are available.

It is understood that the virus corrupts the Internet Explorer browser
and Microsoft's Outlook e-mail and office system.

Here's more details that I have stitched together from various
sources...

VBS_LOVELETTER (continued from profile page)
In the wild: Yes
Trigger date 1: Any Day
Payload 1: Others (spreads via email and mIRC)
Detected by pattern file#: 693
Detected by scan engine#: 5.12
Language: English
Platform: Windows
Encrypted: No
Size of virus: 10,307 Bytes

Details:
Once executed, this virus drops the following files:
\windows\Win32DLL.vbs
\system\MSKernel32.vbs
\system\LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs.

NOTE: An additional piece of data we discovered not covered in this data is
that the virus also reassociates jpg, jpeg, mpeg, mpg, mp3 files to the
Windows Scripting host. If these files are opened after being infected, it
will rerun the virus.
It also modifies the following registry entries so that the virus is run at
each Windows starts up:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\Run\MSKernel32",
:\windows\system \MSKernel32.vbs

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\RunServices\Win32DLL",
:\windows\Win32DLL.vbs.

It searches for a file named WinFAT32.exe in the :\windows\system
folder. If the file exists, then it modifies Internet Explorers startup page
with one of the following sites:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.skyinet.net/~young1s/
HJKhjnwerhjkxcvytwertnMTFwetrdsfmhPnjw6587345gvsdf7679njbvYT/
WIN-BUGSFIX.exe

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.skyinet.net/~angelcat/skladjflfdjghKJnwetryDGFikjUIy

qwerWe546786324hjk4jnHHGbvbmKLJKjhkqj4w/
WIN-BUGSFIX.exe

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.skyinet.net/~koichi/
jf6TRjkcbGRpGqaq198vbFV5hfFEkbopBdQZnmPOhfgER67b3Vbvg/
WIN-BUGSFIX.exe
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.skyinet.net/~chu/sdgfhjksdfjklNBmnfgkKLHjkqwtuHJBh

AFSDGjkhYUgqwerasdjhPhjasfdglkNBhbqwebmznxcbvnmadshfgqw
237461234iuy7thjg/WIN-BUGSFIX.exe

It also searches for a file named WIN-BUGSFIX.exe in the
:\windows\system folder. If the file does not exists, then it modifies
Internet Explorers startup page with "about:blank" page and modifies the
registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\Run\WIN-BUGSFIX, \WIN-BUGSFIX.exe

This worm primarily propagates using Microsoft Outlook by sending an email
with an attachment file "LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs" to all email addresses
listed in the address list with the Subject: ILOVEYOU
Other than this, it starts modifying the mIRCs script.ini file by
overwriting the script.ini. After connecting to a chat server using mIRC,
the virus initiates a DCC send to all the users in the current channel and
sends a copy of itself, "LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.HTM"
==========================================================
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From: "Pete Calabrese" banet.net>
Subject: VIRUS WARNING! (Yes this is REAL!)
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 12:05:39 -0400

I usually don't do this, but since the one of the mustang lists was already
hit by a user - DO NOT OPEN A MESSAGE THAT SAYS I LOVE YOU IN THE SUBJECT
FIELD - THIS VIRUS IS VERY DESTRUCTIVE!!!

I've just spent the entire morning fighting it here at work. If you did
open this message, go to McAfee or Norton and update your DAT files
immediately!!!! This virus goes after jpg's and mp3's as well!

This one's a nasty one kids!!!
___________________________________________________________________
1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver
493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually


------------------------------

From: "Harald" foxinternet.net>
Subject: Rhino liner experience
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 11:11:26 -0700

Recently had a Rhino lining sprayed in my 2000 F350 CC DRW Lariat truck. I
learned how important it is to get a good dealer to do your install. The
product is good as long as you get a good installer. The dealer in Auburn,
WA is not in the good category.

I picked up my truck after they sprayed it and couldn't close the tailgate
because they installed the rubber bumpers backwards. When I got home and
closed the tailgate again, it made a "twanging" sound. While driving, I
wondered why my stereo sounded so bad until I noticed that my antenna had
not been reinstalled. To top it off, they didn't spray the top edge of the
front bulkhead as I had requested. And the tailgate cover had so little
product on the edges I could see white paint.

So the truck gets rescheduled to fix the problems. I go to pick it up and
check the antenna first: it's only on finger tight. The dealer admits they
left a clip loose in the tailgate and also left a roll of tape inside. The
respray looks good. But there's product on the rear quarter of the cab,
around the door handle, on the inside of the door, on the steering wheel and
on the leather seat. Dealer comes out and cleans everything off himself.
Oh yea, they left the trailer tow mirrors folded in.

I just notice some more overspray on the lower part of the driver door and
don't want to go back before they screw up anything else. Needless to say,
I'm not impressed. Maybe I expect too much, being a aircraft mechanic, but
this is just the most sorry work I've seen. So be careful when you pick
your installer.

Harald


"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin


------------------------------

From: "Pete Calabrese" banet.net>
Subject: Fuel/Water Valve?
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:14:42 -0400

Was checking for the valve the other day and the manual says that it should
be on the passenger side of the block, but I wasn't able to locate it. Can
someone point me in the proper direction?

Thanks!

Pete

___________________________________________________________________
1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver
493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually


------------------------------

From: "Pete Calabrese" banet.net>
Subject: Re: Rhino liner experience
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:29:36 -0400

Harald,

You don't expect too much (at least not in my book....) you expect a job to
be done - and done properly - especially for the price they charge.

Your experience is leaning me towards getting the Durabak and doing it
myself.

If you want something done right.....

___________________________________________________________________
1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver
493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually

-----Original Message-----
From: 97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Harald
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 2:11 PM
To: Ford Trucks List
Subject: [97up-list] Rhino liner experience


Recently had a Rhino lining sprayed in my 2000 F350 CC DRW Lariat truck. I
learned how important it is to get a good dealer to do your install. The
product is good as long as you get a good installer. The dealer in Auburn,
WA is not in the good category.

I picked up my truck after they sprayed it and couldn't close the tailgate
because they installed the rubber bumpers backwards. When I got home and
closed the tailgate again, it made a "twanging" sound. While driving, I
wondered why my stereo sounded so bad until I noticed that my antenna had
not been reinstalled. To top it off, they didn't spray the top edge of the
front bulkhead as I had requested. And the tailgate cover had so little
product on the edges I could see white paint.

So the truck gets rescheduled to fix the problems. I go to pick it up and
check the antenna first: it's only on finger tight. The dealer admits they
left a clip loose in the tailgate and also left a roll of tape inside. The
respray looks good. But there's product on the rear quarter of the cab,
around the door handle, on the inside of the door, on the steering wheel and
on the leather seat. Dealer comes out and cleans everything off himself.
Oh yea, they left the trailer tow mirrors folded in.

I just notice some more overspray on the lower part of the driver door and
don't want to go back before they screw up anything else. Needless to say,
I'm not impressed. Maybe I expect too much, being a aircraft mechanic, but
this is just the most sorry work I've seen. So be careful when you pick
your installer.

Harald


"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin

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From: "Erik Marquez" alaska.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel/Water Valve?
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:31:50 -0800

Are you referring to the drain valve for the fuel filter on a PSD?

If so on my 97 PSD it is near the top of the fuel filter housing, front
right side (the filter housing is round, so no corners...LOL), should be a
little yellow lever, directly below it on the bottom you should see a hose
running down and away.. that is the fuel drain hose.

Erik Marquez
97 F350 CC PSD 4x4
bronco78 alaska.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.home.gci.net/~bronco78
Home of the BB decal
-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Calabrese banet.net>
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Thursday, May 04, 2000 10:16 AM
Subject: [97up-list] Fuel/Water Valve?


>Was checking for the valve the other day and the manual says that it should
>be on the passenger side of the block, but I wasn't able to locate it. Can
>someone point me in the proper direction?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Pete
>
>___________________________________________________________________
>1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver
>493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
>Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
>1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
>2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually
>
>==========================================================
>To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
>the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the
>message.
>


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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 11:30:04 -0700
From: johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel/Water Valve?

Do you know where the fuel filter bowl is?
It's just behind he plastic "power stroke" cover on the top center
of the block. On top of the high pressure oil pump that drives the
injectors.

You can either climb on top of the engine, and look just behind the cover....
Or from the passengers side of the engine bay look towards the base of the
fuel filter. You should see a yellow lever.

If you are contemplating draining the fuel bowl, get some rubber tubing and
attach it to the fuel drain line. 3-4" is good, and you can tie wrap it to the
axle. Otherwise you drain fuel all over your garage floor.

Where's the drain line? Looking through the passenger side wheel well, you
should
see some stainless steel line that's towards the front of the block and ends
about
where the oilpan meets, the block.


Pete Calabrese wrote:

> Was checking for the valve the other day and the manual says that it should
> be on the passenger side of the block, but I wasn't able to locate it. Can
> someone point me in the proper direction?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Pete




------------------------------

Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 14:00:42 -0500
From: "Charles Abraham" agcs.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel/Water Valve?

Pete, the drain valve on my 99.5, is at the bottom rear of the
fuel filter sump. The sump is under the black plastic "Power
Stroke" shroud that's looking you in the face when you open
the hood.

Also, the drain valve level arm is green-blue (?) in color. Theirs
a short rubber drain hose coming out the bottom of the sump
that's connected to a metal tube which is routed down the
passenger side of the block. But it stops short of clearing the block
altogether. So it's a little difficult to locate looking from underneath.

I've attached a two foot clear hose, 5/16" (?) inside diameter,
to the end of the metal tube. When draining, I stick the other end
in a 16 oz. coke bottle, which I wedge between the block and the
front axle.



Pete Calabrese wrote:

> Was checking for the valve the other day and the manual says that it should
> be on the passenger side of the block, but I wasn't able to locate it. Can
> someone point me in the proper direction?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Pete
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> 1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver
> 493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
> Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
> 1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
> 2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually
>
> ==========================================================
> To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
> the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the
> message.


------------------------------

From: "Ken Payne" ford-trucks.com>
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 19:43:48 GMT
Subject: ADMIN: Re: Re: FW: VIRUS ALERT UPDATE- "ILOVEYOU" virus

Virus warnings, no matter how serious, do not belong on our Ford truck mailing
lists. No exceptions. Our policy, from our FAQ, is very clear:

"Do not post messages warning about email viruses! It is the personal responsibility
of individuals to protect their system against viruses. Most email virus warnings
are bogus and have no basis in reality. Such postings are off-topic and do
not belong on a mailing list with thousands of participants and will cause you
to get immediately unsubscribed."

Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 14:50:36 -0700
From: SCA mindspring.com>
Subject: 97 F350 PowerStroke Crewcab payload & Dually questions

I have a '97 PowerStroke Crewcab 4X4 non-dually automatic. I've just bought
a new piggyback camper (about the size of the Nimitz, weighing 3500 lbs.
without water and such) and I think I've stupidly and inadvertently
overloaded my truck. It never occurred to me (duh) that my truck wouldn't
be able to handle a stoopid camper. It's an F350, for God's sake. I've got
a flock of questions about this situation.

1. My GVWR is listed on the inside door panel as 9200. The empty truck
weighs in at 8000 lbs at a local scale. My payload is 1200 lbs? Does this
REALLY mean that if I put in 6 adults I've exceeded my capacity with
nothing at all in the bed? What can I REALLY (safely) get away with? (Some
have argued that my truck can't be 8000 empty, that it SHOULD be around
6700. But that's what the scale folk said. What should be the known weight
of my truck?) Truck and camper and all appear to be weighing in at 11,500.

2. What is the payload difference between my truck and a factory dually
version of the same truck, all other things being equal?

3. What is the mechanical difference between my truck and a factory dually
version? Is the only difference the double tires and fender flares and fuel
tank access mods, or is there something more? As in beefier axles and
suspension and such on a dually version?

4. What about converting my truck to a dually in an aftermarket fashion?
What will its payload be then? Is an aftermarket dually conversion the same
as a factory-built dually version? Is there more than one kind of dually
conversion? (Like, heavy-duty as opposed to light weight?) What would be
the going price of such a conversion? Does that fact that it's a 4X4 have
an impact on this situation?

5. What OTHER things can I do to bring my truck up to snuff with respect to
safely carrying this camper around? Are there other ways to increase it's
load-carrying capability and overall stability under load? (I've already
done the airbag thing.)

6. Aside from the obvious fact that my load range E tires are overloaded,
what other mechanical failures are most likely?

7. I am told that airbags increase the load carrying capability. Some have
even said that it increases it by 5000 lbs., which makes no sense to me at
all. It's still the same leaf-springs and frame and axles and tires and
such under there. I can see how airbags might make things a bit smoother,
but how can they add to the useful payload?

8. Just what WOULD have been the proper truck to have with such a camper?

Having already bought this camper and put myself in this situation, I'm
beginning to feel just like those cartoon characters that briefly turn into
a sucker when they realize how stupid they've been. Any help on this would
certainly be appreciated.

SCA


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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 20:58:26 -0400
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: SEMA Action Network Legislative Alert - U.S. House of

As some of you may have noticed by the main page of the Ford
Truck Enthusiasts web site, we recently joined SEMA. Just as
FTE got SEMA alerts as a club, it now received additional
alerts as a member. Following is an alert concerning CAFE
Standards:

LEGISLATIVE ALERT

U.S. House of Representatives to Consider Stricter
Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) Standards

CAFE mandates that all manufacturers meet fuel economy targets for their
vehicle fleet. For the last several years, the automotive industry has
successfully fought to freeze the fleet fuel economy average at 27.5 mpg for
cars and 20.7 mpg for light trucks (SUV’s, pickups, minivans). Now, a few
members of the U.S. House of Representatives, in a misguided attempt to
reduce pollution, gas prices and U.S. dependence on foreign oil, are
actively seeking to end the current freeze on CAFE standards. If they are
successful, the effects on consumer choice, not to mention vehicle safety,
will be dramatic.

Contact Your Federal Representatives to Oppose Lifting the CAFE Freeze

Higher CAFE Standards will…

Limit consumer choice in purchasing vehicles. Manufacturers will be forced
to make SUVs, light trucks and minivans more expensive, smaller, less
powerful, and less useful in terms of hauling and towing capacity.

Result in less vehicle availability and higher prices. Light trucks and SUV
’s, noted as “gas guzzlers,” will inevitably be phased out in order for
manufacturers to meet increasing government-mandated fuel economy standards.
In addition, CAFE increases in the light truck market will cost consumers up
to $2,750 in higher vehicle prices.

Lead to more deaths on our nation’s highways. Increased CAFE standards for
larger vehicles will force consumers into smaller cars with higher accident
fatality rates. A USA Today analysis found that “46,000 people have died in
crashes they would have survived in bigger heavier cars.” This works out to
“roughly 7,700 deaths for every mile per gallon gained” by driving smaller
cars (USA Today, July 2, 1999).

Higher CAFE Standards will not…

Improve on pollution. CAFE was enacted in 1975 to conserve fuel, not to
reduce carbon dioxide emissions. The idea that manmade CO2 emissions will
drastically reduce through higher CAFE standards is inaccurate. Even
doubling the fuel economy of new cars in the U.S. would reduce manmade CO2
emissions less than one percent worldwide.

Reduce U.S. dependence on foreign oil. To date, CAFE and small cars have
done little to reduce gasoline consumption and the U.S. imports more foreign
oil today than when CAFE standards were first imposed.

Save the consumer money at the gas pump with more fuel efficient vehicles.
Total gas consumption depends on factors such as total miles traveled, the
make-up of the overall vehicle fleet and gasoline prices, NOT simply on new
vehicle mileage standards.

Contact your Member of the U.S. House of Representatives to oppose any
raising of CAFE standards. If you need assistance in determining who your
legislators are, this information can be obtained by calling the SEMA
Washington, D.C. office at 202/783-6007 or you can access this information
via the internet at www.sema.org/fedleg/legislatorrequest.

For assistance in turning this alert into a letter to a legislator, go to
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sema.org/consumer/fedleg/ and choose SEMA's link on "How to Lobby
Elected Officials."

Please fax a copy of your letters to us at 202/783-6024 or mail to: SEMA
Washington Office, 1317 F St., NW, Ste. 500, Washington, D.C. 20004, Attn:
Brian Caudill




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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 18:20:06 -0700
From: johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: 97 F350 PowerStroke Crewcab payload & Dually questions

Well, I have a 99 SC F350 PSD 4x4 short bed SRW.
Wet, the truck with nobody in it weighs 7000lbs.
Lance 820 wet on the truck weighs in close to 10,500. The GVWR
is 9700 lbs. (I've got a CA truck so it's not 9900 lbs.)


So what can we do to make you feel better or worse, as the case may be?...
Also see www.ford -diesel. com Towing forum.

I use Rancho 9000's on each corner to control body sway and air the
stock 265/75/16 tires up to full pressure of 80 lbs with the camper on.

I'll be going to wider tires with similar weight ratings of the stock 3400+
lbs/tire,
when I swap tires/wheels.

Are you overloaded? - yes.
If you are in an accident, or have to get weighed at a public scales
(vs private scales), there could be issues.

Some things to check. (to help you size up how much pucker factor you're up
for).

What is the front and rear GAWR? (axle weight ratings)
It will be higher than the GVWR.
Weigh the truck by axle. Are you overloading the axle?
If you are. see how much.

Are you overloading the tires.
If you are. See how much.

If you are 10% over, not good, but if you are 50% over, well...
Somewhere 10% and 50% is your pucker factor...
Probably less, but you get the idea.

You have a long bed CC. If you have larger tanks, it's quite possible you have
an unloaded weight of 8000 lbs.

As you note, air bags don't change your GVWR or GAWR.
They are great for allowing the truck to carry heavy weights level.
They don't control sway. You still need good shocks for that.

Mechanically, you've identitied, axles and tires.
On a PSD you need to watch the EGT (exhaust gas temps). Since you have
a 97, it has the squished down pipe, that's notorious for not flowing freely.
Heat builds up. Consider an EGT guage, and possibly swapping out
the down pipe.

If you have the E4OD, consider a trans cooler and or Trans temp guage.

Braking capacity might be another concern, but down the list from
what I've experienced, and read over the years.

If you have the 5 speed manual, temp is of lesser concern.

If it makes you feel better, I've seen other trucks similar to your setup.
I know they are overloaded. I try to give them clearance, and not get in
their way.

The two of us in a tangle would be one *huge* mess.

I didn't cover the dually questions. Someone better needs to answer up here.
Or www.ford -diesel. com has the expertise.

But...
In the case of the 99+ trucks, there are axle and spring differences between
SRW and DRW F350's.
Front axle is Dana 50 and Dana 60. Rear is corporate 10.5 vs. ??
GVWR's go from 9900 to 11,200 lbs.

In hindsight, the truck that gives you more weight buffer is a F350 DRW, or
as high as an F450, now that aftermarket truck beds are available.

But with some more investigation, you might not be as scr*wed as you think you
are.

Hope this helps.
Feel free to ask more. This could be quite a mouthful to digest.



-john


SCA wrote:

> I have a '97 PowerStroke Crewcab 4X4 non-dually automatic. I've just bought
> a new piggyback camper (about the size of the Nimitz, weighing 3500 lbs.
> without water and such) and I think I've stupidly and inadvertently
> overloaded my truck. It never occurred to me (duh) that my truck wouldn't
> be able to handle a stoopid camper. It's an F350, for God's sake. I've got
> a flock of questions about this situation.
>
> 1. My GVWR is listed on the inside door panel as 9200. The empty truck
> weighs in at 8000 lbs at a local scale. My payload is 1200 lbs? Does this
> REALLY mean that if I put in 6 adults I've exceeded my capacity with
> nothing at all in the bed? What can I REALLY (safely) get away with? (Some
> have argued that my truck can't be 8000 empty, that it SHOULD be around
> 6700. But that's what the scale folk said. What should be the known weight
> of my truck?) Truck and camper and all appear to be weighing in at 11,500.
>
> 2. What is the payload difference between my truck and a factory dually
> version of the same truck, all other things being equal?
>
> 3. What is the mechanical difference between my truck and a factory dually
> version? Is the only difference the double tires and fender flares and fuel
> tank access mods, or is there something more? As in beefier axles and
> suspension and such on a dually version?
>
> 4. What about converting my truck to a dually in an aftermarket fashion?
> What will its payload be then? Is an aftermarket dually conversion the same
> as a factory-built dually version? Is there more than one kind of dually
> conversion? (Like, heavy-duty as opposed to light weight?) What would be
> the going price of such a conversion? Does that fact that it's a 4X4 have
> an impact on this situation?
>
> 5. What OTHER things can I do to bring my truck up to snuff with respect to
> safely carrying this camper around? Are there other ways to increase it's
> load-carrying capability and overall stability under load? (I've already
> done the airbag thing.)
>
> 6. Aside from the obvious fact that my load range E tires are overloaded,
> what other mechanical failures are most likely?
>
> 7. I am told that airbags increase the load carrying capability. Some have
> even said that it increases it by 5000 lbs., which makes no sense to me at
> all. It's still the same leaf-springs and frame and axles and tires and
> such under there. I can see how airbags might make things a bit smoother,
> but how can they add to the useful payload?
>
> 8. Just what WOULD have been the proper truck to have with such a camper?
>
> Having already bought this camper and put myself in this situation, I'm
> beginning to feel just like those cartoon characters that briefly turn into
> a sucker when they realize how stupid they've been. Any help on this would
> certainly be appreciated.
>
> SCA




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From: RSnovi aol.com
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 22:42:35 EDT
Subject: Re: 97 F350 PowerStroke Crewcab payload & Dually questions

In a message dated 5/4/00 5:54:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
generala mindspring.com writes:

<<
I have a '97 PowerStroke Crewcab 4X4 non-dually automatic. I've just bought
a new piggyback camper (about the size of the Nimitz, weighing 3500 lbs.
without water and such) and I think I've stupidly and inadvertently
overloaded my truck. It never occurred to me (duh) that my truck wouldn't
be able to handle a stoopid camper. It's an F350, for God's sake. I've got
a flock of questions about this situation.

1. My GVWR is listed on the inside door panel as 9200. The empty truck
weighs in at 8000 lbs at a local scale. My payload is 1200 lbs? Does this
REALLY mean that if I put in 6 adults I've exceeded my capacity with
nothing at all in the bed? What can I REALLY (safely) get away with? (Some
have argued that my truck can't be 8000 empty, that it SHOULD be around
6700. But that's what the scale folk said. What should be the known weight
of my truck?) Truck and camper and all appear to be weighing in at 11,500.

-well i was just at the local dump today, weighed in a 99 F250 PSD 4x4 s/c
7200

2. What is the payload difference between my truck and a factory dually
version of the same truck, all other things being equal?

-not a whole lot just less sway

3. What is the mechanical difference between my truck and a factory dually
version? Is the only difference the double tires and fender flares and fuel
tank access mods, or is there something more? As in beefier axles and
suspension and such on a dually version?

-Bigger rear, dont know on shocks but springs are slightly different i think.

4. What about converting my truck to a dually in an aftermarket fashion?
What will its payload be then? Is an aftermarket dually conversion the same
as a factory-built dually version? Is there more than one kind of dually
conversion? (Like, heavy-duty as opposed to light weight?) What would be
the going price of such a conversion? Does that fact that it's a 4X4 have
an impact on this situation?

-There are a few places that have a kit, its not the same feel thought as
"factory", 4x4, possible but I can't think of it causeing a problem

5. What OTHER things can I do to bring my truck up to snuff with respect to
safely carrying this camper around? Are there other ways to increase it's
load-carrying capability and overall stability under load? (I've already....


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