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97up-list Digest Tue, 02 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 066

In This Issue:
thankful tankful
5.4l Engine Noise
SD trailer brake ctrlrs?
Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?
Re: new truck purchase
Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?
Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?
Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?
Re: thankful tankful
Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?
Replacement Accessory Belt?
For those in need of a good laugh....
Fwd: Expedition Questions

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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 00:17:21 -0400
Subject: thankful tankful
From: "Steve and Caryl Baron" rcn.com>

My 4 x 4 is a 2000 F350 Van, RB, diesel. The 4 wheel conversion was done by
Quigley in Manchester PA. Part of their process includes actually cutting
down the fuel tank to 27 gallons. Last week an auxiliary gas tank was
installed by TEAM in Manchester, so my total fuel capacity is now 53
gallons, with two input spouts, and, of course I now have 2 locking "gas"
caps. Part of the Trans Flow auxiliary tank stuff is a new fuel gauge. The
old gauge still works fine, but the new one shows how much fuel is in each
of the two tanks, and the readings are automatically updated every few
minutes. Really cool! 100 times better than a standard fuel gauge.

I dropped about $70 on the first fill-up and later got a call from Visašs
fraud division wanting to know if everything was OK!

We averaged 17.6 mpg from SE Pennsylvania to Indiana, where we left the van
for a camper and pop-top conversion. And the van rides much better with the
extra weight - till now it has only had the two front seats and the outside
shell.

Fuel in New York State and City is expensive; it costs about $.40 less in
New Jersey (diesel in NJ was $1.329), in Pennsylvania about $.30 more than
NJ (almost New York Prices), in Indiana, about $1.54 (we didnšt need fuel
for more than 600 miles. A day and a short plane trip later in California
from San Francisco down 150 miles south, regular gas was in the $1.80 to
$2.00 range. But then a small three bedroom house with ocean view on a 7,900
square foot lot, in Carmel, CA., was asking an incredible $4,900,000. So
what is a couple of extra bucks for fuel?

Anyone know of a web site that keeps track of the relative cost of fuel by
states? Even including Canada? Išd really like to have this information on a
regular basis, now that I can go 900 miles on a tankful.

Steve Baron New York, NY baronny rcn.com

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From: "George Marchewa" tutshi.com>
Subject: 5.4l Engine Noise
Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 21:53:37 -0700


Ok, here's a possible silly question.

I bought a 99 F150 4x4 SC with a 5.4 litre. It now has just over 1,000 miles
on it.

I don't know if it's my imagination or not but it seems that there is more
engine noise under load than when I first got it. The noise sounds similar
to an exhaust leak but a visual inspection reveals nothing. I am imagining
things or has anyone else noticed this with their 5.4's?

Just curious.

George Marchewa
george tutshi.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.tutshi.com/f150

PS: fooled you all, bet you thought it was going to be a Piston Slap
question by the Subject Line.


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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 08:27:58 -0500
From: Janster bigfoot.com>
Subject: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?

Folks,

Anybody have any praises/advice/recommendations for trailer brake
controllers for F250 Super Duty's? I'm pretty sure I'll get a 6 axle,
digital(?) brake controller but there's quite a few out on the market.
If anything, I'll get a Reese or Drawtite controller just because
they're two biggies on the market.




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From: RSnovi aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 10:25:52 EDT
Subject: Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?

In a message dated 5/3/00 9:29:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dziadul bigfoot.com writes:

I think the one I have is draw-tite, it has power adjustable on top and
digital read of how much pressure you are getting, also it has some codes if
something goes a miss. Really nice unit, under 100 If i remember correct and
a good warranty


RS
<<
Folks,

Anybody have any praises/advice/recommendations for trailer brake
controllers for F250 Super Duty's? I'm pretty sure I'll get a 6 axle,
digital(?) brake controller but there's quite a few out on the market.
If anything, I'll get a Reese or Drawtite controller just because
they're two biggies on the market.

>>

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From: "Harald" foxinternet.net>
Subject: Re: new truck purchase
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:28:21 -0700

A great source of info on buying a new truck is the Ordering forum and FAQ
at www.ford -diesel. com. Even if you're getting the V10, this site has the
best info for any Super Duty owner. I have the V10 in my truck and love it.
If you plan on adults sitting in the back seat, don't get the supercab (it's
a torture chamber for adults).


Harald


"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin


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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 09:35:09 -0700
From: johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?

I just bought a Drawtite Activator II.

I've seen nice reviews on the Drawtite Activator II.
On www.ford -diesel. com towing forum, and a friend has one that
he tows his jeep trailer with.
Handles up to 8 brakes.

Bought it from here for $78 including shipping.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rvcatalog.com/towing/drawtite/activator2.asp
(best price I'm aware of, and it arrived in about a week via UPS)

Local shops wanted $115.
If you have the trailer tow package, you should have the wiring pigtail, that
plugs into a connector under the dash. Should be a snap to do.

I saw in a Reese catalog, that Reese makes a controller that looks almost
identical
to the activator II, but I'm not sure about that.

I'm using the Drawtite to tow a 3 horse trailer w/ GVW of 7000 lbs on my 99 F350

4x4 Auto PSD SRW. (for now, without the camper)

-john


Janster wrote:

> Folks,
>
> Anybody have any praises/advice/recommendations for trailer brake
> controllers for F250 Super Duty's? I'm pretty sure I'll get a 6 axle,
> digital(?) brake controller but there's quite a few out on the market.
> If anything, I'll get a Reese or Drawtite controller just because
> they're two biggies on the market.




------------------------------

From: "Pete Calabrese" banet.net>
Subject: Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 13:39:12 -0400

Nice product, crappy web site :) Just tried to order it online, got
connection errors. Can't get back into the site now...wanted to see what
else they have to offer before I placed an order.

How long did it take for you to get it after you ordered the controller?

___________________________________________________________________
1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver
493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually

-----Original Message-----
From: 97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of johny
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 12:35 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?


I just bought a Drawtite Activator II.

I've seen nice reviews on the Drawtite Activator II.
On www.ford -diesel. com towing forum, and a friend has one that
he tows his jeep trailer with.
Handles up to 8 brakes.

Bought it from here for $78 including shipping.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rvcatalog.com/towing/drawtite/activator2.asp
(best price I'm aware of, and it arrived in about a week via UPS)

Local shops wanted $115.
If you have the trailer tow package, you should have the wiring pigtail,
that
plugs into a connector under the dash. Should be a snap to do.

I saw in a Reese catalog, that Reese makes a controller that looks almost
identical
to the activator II, but I'm not sure about that.

I'm using the Drawtite to tow a 3 horse trailer w/ GVW of 7000 lbs on my 99
F350

4x4 Auto PSD SRW. (for now, without the camper)

-john


Janster wrote:

> Folks,
>
> Anybody have any praises/advice/recommendations for trailer brake
> controllers for F250 Super Duty's? I'm pretty sure I'll get a 6 axle,
> digital(?) brake controller but there's quite a few out on the market.
> If anything, I'll get a Reese or Drawtite controller just because
> they're two biggies on the market.



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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 10:53:14 -0700
From: johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?

Took about a week.
Agreed. Site wasn't the best, and it seems to be a bit light
on products, but.... They had what I wanted - in stock.

I used the 800 number.
They are located in Florida, and it looked like the package was shipped
from Southern Ca. Go figure. ( I live in CA, so possibly, this place is
affiliated with some larger chain??).

The site is up, but connections are a bit slow.

Pete Calabrese wrote:

> Nice product, crappy web site :) Just tried to order it online, got
> connection errors. Can't get back into the site now...wanted to see what
> else they have to offer before I placed an order.
>
> How long did it take for you to get it after you ordered the controller?
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> 1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver
> 493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
> Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
> 1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
> 2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of johny
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 12:35 PM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?
>
> I just bought a Drawtite Activator II.
>
> I've seen nice reviews on the Drawtite Activator II.
> On www.ford -diesel. com towing forum, and a friend has one that
> he tows his jeep trailer with.
> Handles up to 8 brakes.
>
> Bought it from here for $78 including shipping.
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rvcatalog.com/towing/drawtite/activator2.asp
> (best price I'm aware of, and it arrived in about a week via UPS)
>
> Local shops wanted $115.
> If you have the trailer tow package, you should have the wiring pigtail,
> that
> plugs into a connector under the dash. Should be a snap to do.
>
> I saw in a Reese catalog, that Reese makes a controller that looks almost
> identical
> to the activator II, but I'm not sure about that.
>
> I'm using the Drawtite to tow a 3 horse trailer w/ GVW of 7000 lbs on my 99
> F350
>
> 4x4 Auto PSD SRW. (for now, without the camper)
>
> -john




------------------------------

Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 11:12:58 -0700
From: johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: thankful tankful

> Anyone know of a web site that keeps track of the relative cost of fuel by
> states? Even including Canada? Išd really like to have this information on a
> regular basis, now that I can go 900 miles on a tankful.

Maybe.
Flying J is the better of the 2. I'm not sure if the second one is updated or
not-
although the high prices seems about right for the San Jose, Ca area.


http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.flyingJ.com/fuelprice.htm

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.heavytruck.com/newport/diesel.html



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From: "Pete Calabrese" banet.net>
Subject: Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:15:00 -0400

I can get through here and there, but the online ordering isn't working.

I'm just going to call them.

Thanks for the advice!

Pete

___________________________________________________________________
1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver
493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually

-----Original Message-----
From: 97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of johny
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 1:53 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?


Took about a week.
Agreed. Site wasn't the best, and it seems to be a bit light
on products, but.... They had what I wanted - in stock.

I used the 800 number.
They are located in Florida, and it looked like the package was shipped
from Southern Ca. Go figure. ( I live in CA, so possibly, this place is
affiliated with some larger chain??).

The site is up, but connections are a bit slow.

Pete Calabrese wrote:

> Nice product, crappy web site :) Just tried to order it online, got
> connection errors. Can't get back into the site now...wanted to see what
> else they have to offer before I placed an order.
>
> How long did it take for you to get it after you ordered the controller?
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> 1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver
> 493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
> Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
> 1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
> 2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of johny
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 12:35 PM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: SD trailer brake ctrlrs?
>
> I just bought a Drawtite Activator II.
>
> I've seen nice reviews on the Drawtite Activator II.
> On www.ford -diesel. com towing forum, and a friend has one that
> he tows his jeep trailer with.
> Handles up to 8 brakes.
>
> Bought it from here for $78 including shipping.
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rvcatalog.com/towing/drawtite/activator2.asp
> (best price I'm aware of, and it arrived in about a week via UPS)
>
> Local shops wanted $115.
> If you have the trailer tow package, you should have the wiring pigtail,
> that
> plugs into a connector under the dash. Should be a snap to do.
>
> I saw in a Reese catalog, that Reese makes a controller that looks almost
> identical
> to the activator II, but I'm not sure about that.
>
> I'm using the Drawtite to tow a 3 horse trailer w/ GVW of 7000 lbs on my
99
> F350
>
> 4x4 Auto PSD SRW. (for now, without the camper)
>
> -john



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From: "Pete Calabrese" banet.net>
Subject: Replacement Accessory Belt?
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:26:43 -0400

Since there seems to be a history of the acc. belt 'melting' has anyone
replaced theirs yet? Have you found an aftermarket vendor (preferably
Goodyear)?? I just checked www.wrenchead.com and www.carparts.com and
neither had a listing for the PSD....

Thanks,

Pete

___________________________________________________________________
1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver
493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually


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From: "Pete Calabrese" banet.net>
Subject: For those in need of a good laugh....
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:03:30 -0400

I'm going home yesterday and I'm turning off the highway and I'm behind a
99/2000 F-350 - SRW diesel pulling an empty trailer. We get onto the side
road and he gets into the right lane and I get into the left lane and we
head to the light. I don't think twice about it because he's got the
trailer behind him.

Well the light turns green and I take off like normal. He starts inching by
a bit, I start inching by a bit...he's matching me stride for stride (seems
like it was a 6spd manual). Finally I got tired of it and gave it some
pedal and went past him as I was shifting into 3rd (most of the power was
already gone). But I pull away and we get to the next light - he tucks in
behind me. We both turn left and head to the next intersection and I head
straight and he goes to turn right onto Palen - but he rolls his window down
and says 'hey! you got a chip in that thing?' I said 'yep' :) He asked if
it was the 50hp or the 75hp, I replied the 75hp - he said he had the 50hp in
his :) Obviously he thought I was going to be an easy prey - even with the
trailer behind him....

I got a good laugh out of it.....you can take the racer out of the race car
and stick him in the tow vehicle, but you can't take the race out of the
racer!

___________________________________________________________________
1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver
493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually


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From: ty1911 webtv.net (Alan & Ku'uipo)
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 17:04:29 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Fwd: Expedition Questions




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I was just wondering if any expedition owners has performanced modified
theirs (intake, exhaust, supercharger (which one?), droppped?). Thanks,
Alan




Alan & Ku'uipo DeRego
'93 Blue / Grey Typhoon
Hawaii Representatives
of www.SyTy.org
Ty1911WebTV.net




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