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97up-list Digest Thu, 20 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 058

In This Issue:
Re: Pickup bed in Fourwheeler mag.
Truck Bed
Re: Pickup bed in Fourwheeler mag.
Re: Tire rotation
Utility bed
Guess What? More Jokes!!!!!!!!!1
EGT Gauge
Re: EGT Gauge
Speaking of Gauges - I need a good Trans temp gauge
Re: EGT Gauge
Re: Speaking of Gauges - I need a good Trans temp gauge
Re: Speaking of Gauges - I need a good Trans temp gauge
Annual Pigeon Forge Supernationals

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From: RSnovi aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:43:39 EDT
Subject: Re: Pickup bed in Fourwheeler mag.

In a message dated 4/20/00 8:36:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
MongoCaver aol.com writes:


i know what you are talking about, let me do some thinking about who is mfg.
or if i have it laying around here, if so I will give it a scan. Give me a
bit to do some research, something i have been doing alot of lately.

RS
<<
A couple of months back, in Fourwheeler magazine, there was a pic and
article
about a neat bed that you could get with a new Ford pickup. It had sides
that opened for storage. Kinda like tool boxes, but it was a normal looking
bed, not like a utility bed at all. Anybody see or have the article? I
can't find mine.
Thanks, James
======================== >>

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From: "Scott Matus" hotmail.com>
Subject: Truck Bed
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:14:03 PDT

Yea, I think I may still have it. The mag was "Truck Trends", the Motor
Trend Knock off. I think it was the Jan '00 or Dec '99 issue.

I think the company was in Nevada, I remember thinking of picking one up
with "Lost Wages" winnings.

If you want more I'll search for the mag.

Scott.
________________________________________________________________________


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From: RAMWORKER aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:02:36 EDT
Subject: Re: Pickup bed in Fourwheeler mag.

Is this what you're looking for?:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hidenside.com/Default.asp

Best Regards,
Robert

In a message dated 4/20/00 7:36:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
MongoCaver aol.com writes:

> A couple of months back, in Fourwheeler magazine, there was a pic and
article
>
> about a neat bed that you could get with a new Ford pickup. It had sides
> that opened for storage. Kinda like tool boxes, but it was a normal
looking
>
> bed, not like a utility bed at all. Anybody see or have the article? I
> can't find mine.

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From: "Harald" foxinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Tire rotation
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:03:28 -0700

You didn't say if you have single or dual rear wheels. On a dually, Ford
recommends front tire rotation only. Reason is that front rim is different
from outside rear rim, which is different from inside rear rim. You can
rotate, but inner rear is grey steel and the outer aluminum rims are only
polished on the outside surface, so rotated rims would look bad.

That said, the torque is 140 to 155 ft/lbs. Standard practice is to go
midrange on your torque wrench, so use 148 ft/lbs. Be sure to tighten in a
cross over star pattern for even torqueing. There's a nice picture in the
owners manual telling you which nut to tighten in which order.

Harald

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin


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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:45:37 -0500
From: Michael Ray Jones lcc.net>
Subject: Utility bed

I don't remember the name of the company either, but I believe our Ford
dealer had some brochures on the bed. I looked at those, too, for some
company trucks (SD250's), but they are mucho expensivo! I'm thinking in
the $6-7000 ranger if I remember correctly! That's versus about $3500
for a well optioned standard utility bed. They do look a lot like a
regular F-series bed, though. If I find any of my old brochures at work
next week, I'll let you know their name.


> From: MongoCaver aol.com
> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:34:02 EDT
> Subject: Pickup bed in Fourwheeler mag.
>
> A couple of months back, in Fourwheeler magazine, there was a pic and article
> about a neat bed that you could get with a new Ford pickup. It had sides
> that opened for storage. Kinda like tool boxes, but it was a normal looking
> bed, not like a utility bed at all. Anybody see or have the article? I
> can't find mine.
> Thanks, James

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From: "Sandy Swallow" orionre.com>
Subject: Guess What? More Jokes!!!!!!!!!1
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:19:41 -0700


I liked this first one!


>There was this party in the woods and all of a sudden there was a downpour
>of thunder and rain. These two young guys ran for about 10 minutes in the
>pouring rain, finally reaching their car just as the rain let up. They
>jumped in the car, started it up and headed down the road, laughing and, of
>course, still drinking one beer after the other.
> All of a sudden an old Indian man's face appeared in the passenger window
>and tapped lightly on the window! The passenger screamed out, "eeeeekkk!
>Look at my window!!! There's an old Indian guy's face there!" (Was this a
>ghost?!?!?!?) This old Indian man kept knocking, so the driver said, "Well
>open the window a little and ask him what
> he wants!"
> So the passenger rolled his window down part way and said, scared out of
>his wits, "What do you want???" The old Indian
> softly replied, "You have any tobacco?" The passenger, terrified, looked
>at the driver and said, "He wants tobacco!" "Well offer him a cigarette!
>HURRY!!" the driver replies. So he fumbles around with the pack and hands
>the
> old man a cigarette and yells, "Step on it!!!" rolling up the window in
>terror.
> > Now going about 80 miles an hour, they calm down and they start
>laughing again, and the passenger says, "What do you think of that?"
> The driver says, "I don't know? How could that be? I am going pretty
>fast?" Then all of a sudden AGAIN there is a knock on the window and there
>is the old Indian man again. "aaaaaaaaaaaaa, there he is again!", the
>passenger yells."
> Well see what he wants now!" yells back the driver. He rolls down the
>window a little ways and shakily says "Yes?" "Do you have a light?" the old
>Indian quietly asks. The passenger throws a lighter out the window at him
>and rolls up the window and yells, "STEP ON IT!"
>They are now going about 100 miles an hour and still guzzling beer, trying
>to forget what they had just seen and
> heard, when all of a sudden again there is more knocking! "Oh my God!
>HE'S BACK!" He rolls down the window and screams out, "WHAT DO YOU WANT?"
>in stark fear.
> The old man gently replies, "You want some help getting out of the mud?"
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An old lady had always wanted to travel abroad. Now that she
was getting on in years, she thought she would really like to do
so before she died.

But until now, she'd never even been out of the country. So she
began by going in person to the Passport Office and asking
how long it would take to have one issued.

"You must take the loyalty oath first," responded the passport
clerk. "Raise your right hand, please."

The old gal raised her right hand.

"Do you swear to defend the Constitution of the United States
against all its enemies, domestic or foreign?" was the first
question.

The little old lady's face paled and her voice trembled as she
asked in a small voice, "Uhhh . . . all by myself?"
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----------------------------------------------


The truck driver stopped to picked up the girl hitchhiker in short
shorts.
"Say, What's your name, mister?" she inquired, after she climbed up in
the truck.
"It's Snow...Roy Snow," he answered, "and what's yours?" "I'm
June...June Hansen," she said.
"Hey, why do you keep sizing me up with those sidelong glances?" she
challenged the trucker some miles down the road. "Can you imagine what
it might be like," he countered with a question of his own, "having
eight inches of Snow in June?"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------


A blonde teenage girl comes home from school and asks her mother, "Is it
true what Rita just told me ..... Babies come out of the sameplace where
boys put their thingies?"

"Yes, dear." replies her mother, pleased that the subject had finally come
up, and she wouldn't have to explain it in detail to her daughter.

"But then when I have a baby," responded the blonde teenager, "won't it
knock my teeth out?"
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---------------------------------------------


Two little potatoes are standing on the street corner.
How can you tell which one is the prostitute???

It's the one with the little sticker that says IDAHO





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From: "Pete Calabrese" banet.net>
Subject: EGT Gauge
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:26:35 -0400

Getting ready to install some gauges in the PSD and was reading that some
people install the EGT before the turbo and some after.

Anyone have any insight on the pro's and con's of each installation?

Thanks,

Pete

___________________________________________________________________
1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240w/driver
493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually


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From: RSnovi aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:38:41 EDT
Subject: Re: EGT Gauge

In a message dated 4/21/00 11:33:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
snkypete banet.net writes:

what good does it do before? no use to know inlet temp.

RS
<<
Getting ready to install some gauges in the PSD and was reading that some
people install the EGT before the turbo and some after.

Anyone have any insight on the pro's and con's of each installation?

Thanks,

Pete
>>

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From: jmann living.com
Subject: Speaking of Gauges - I need a good Trans temp gauge
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:56:56 -0500

I have a 2000 F150 with a 5.4 and the smaller auto transmission. I tow a
4000lbs boat and trailer every weekend and I'm not known for babying my
vehicles. Total weight is around 9000 lbs. I've heard that heat is the
biggest enemy of this automatic tranny. Who makes the best transmission temp
gauge for this truck?

Thanks,

Joe
Ausitn, TX

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Calabrese [mailto:snkypete banet.net]
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 10:27 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] EGT Gauge

Getting ready to install some gauges in the PSD and was
reading that some
people install the EGT before the turbo and some after.

Anyone have any insight on the pro's and con's of each
installation?

Thanks,

Pete


___________________________________________________________________
1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! :
3240w/driver
493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few
years back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman
equipped!
2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually

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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:57:27 -0700
From: johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: EGT Gauge

On www.ford -diesel. com, this has been discussed at length.
In general, the more accurate readings are pre turbo. There could be
as high as 300-500F difference between pre and post turbo readings.

Consensus is to limit EGT temps to 1100F pre-turbo and 900F post turbo
or something very close to that. (Parts start to degrade, aluminum melts,
stuff like that :-) at about 1300F ).


(one of the guys installed thermocouples pre *and* post turbo to
get the readings.)

The thermocouples are different temp readings.


If you install it post turbo, drilling into the down pipe is not much of
a concern.
Drilling into the turbo casing for pre turbo install is a bit more
nerve-racking,
but very doable, with a set of sharp bits to incrementally increase size.

Pre turbo install issues include having the thermocouple break and damage the
turbo. Most arguments seem to say this is a *very* unlikely event to occur.

Post turbo issues are the accuracy of the temp readings when you are
pushing the limits.

I have mine installed post turbo, but if I were to do it again, I'd go
pre-turbo.

-john


Pete Calabrese wrote:

> Getting ready to install some gauges in the PSD and was reading that some
> people install the EGT before the turbo and some after.
>
> Anyone have any insight on the pro's and con's of each installation?




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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:07:25 -0700
From: johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: Speaking of Gauges - I need a good Trans temp gauge



Many choices here.
www.summitracing.com has Autometer, VDO, intellitronix, etc.
(and are very good guages).

If you are more price sensitive, jc whitney, or the local auto parts store.

Digial, analog, 2" 1/16 or around 3"+ guage sizes are typical.
White faced guages, black faced guages, high tec style, liquid filled,
air filled ad nauseum.

jmann living.com wrote:

> I have a 2000 F150 with a 5.4 and the smaller auto transmission. I tow a
> 4000lbs boat and trailer every weekend and I'm not known for babying my
> vehicles. Total weight is around 9000 lbs. I've heard that heat is the
> biggest enemy of this automatic tranny. Who makes the best transmission temp
> gauge for this truck?




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From: RSnovi aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:23:58 EDT
Subject: Re: Speaking of Gauges - I need a good Trans temp gauge

In a message dated 4/21/00 11:57:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jmann living.com writes:

all depends on what size you want and are willing to spend, Autometer i
believe you can get a decent small 2 in or 2 5/8 and mount on lower side of
dash. They should have a fairly easy hookup for a temp sensor, or you may
have to drill 1 hole at most. Really don't need liquid filled (Pro Comp) in
your application (only in high vibration enviroment), the Sport Comp series
line or Z series should be fine.

RS

<<
I have a 2000 F150 with a 5.4 and the smaller auto transmission. I tow a
4000lbs boat and trailer every weekend and I'm not known for babying my
vehicles. Total weight is around 9000 lbs. I've heard that heat is the
biggest enemy of this automatic tranny. Who makes the best transmission temp
gauge for this truck?

Thanks,

Joe
Ausitn, TX
>>

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Subject: Annual Pigeon Forge Supernationals

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