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97up-list Digest Sat, 25 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 037

In This Issue:
Re: Brakes
Fw: Transmission vs. Brakes
Re: Superduty/camper height
Re: Brakes
Re: Wallpaper
Re: Wallpaper

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 17:55:40 -0800
From: Gary Newlin ata-sd.com>
Subject: Re: Brakes

Have you tried shifting into neutral while at speed, and then braking to a stop?

If the shudder is still there, the tranny is not likely to be the cause of the problem...

A very good example of "thinking outside of the box", in any case.



From: "dhf150dude" email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Brakes
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:26:42 -0800

Hi Dave,

Funny that i'm reading your post at this time. My 98 F-150 does it as well,
as a matter of fact just last night I had my friend drive it to verify that
I wasn't nuts. It almost feels like the trans is not downshifting until
just before the truck stops.
He is a state trooper and said that his 00 Crown Vic does the same thing....
I have the 4.2 eng. with auto. The Crown Vic has the 4.6 and they both do
it
so i'm guessing it's normal. I have 18k miles on my truck but just started
to notice this. His "Police Interceptor" has about 3k miles on it and has
done this
since he got it new.

I don't know but maybe others can enlighten us further as to it being the
trans. or brakes.

D. Holmes 98 f-150 standard cab, short bed XL, 4.2, Dk Tor/Praire Tan, 99
side moldings, factory mud flaps. And about to buy a bed-extender for
groceries, etc.





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From: "dallanmiller" email.msn.com>
Subject: Fw: Transmission vs. Brakes
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:55:18 -0600



----- Original Message -----
From: dallanmiller
To: dhf150dude email.msn.com
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 10:26 PM
Subject: Transmission vs. Brakes


Hello, Sir:
I was reading the latest posting about Ford trucks, etc., and read the different postings concerning the "shuddering" problems with different Ford vehicles. I am an owner of a 1999 F150, and don't have that problem yet.
I have had the same problem in my 1983 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham (4.1literV8, Auto. trans.), and I actually figured out myself what was wrong with the car by reading a Ford Manual! The problem is with the transmission, NOT the Brakes, as was with that car. The faulty component is called a "lockup solenoid", that electrically actuates at certain speeds, diverts transmission fluid to the torque converter, and mine would stick, therefore not letting the torque converter release when slowing down from highway speeds.
The first time my problem happened( this car only had 78,000 original miles, well serviced, mint condition) I was exiting a freeway, and started to slow down as I was exiting and the car started shuddering... I thought the engine was going to stall, maybe loss of distributor fire to the engine- and the car started bucking and scared the hell out of me. The engine started making a dieseling sound just as I stopped, and I quickly put it in neutral, and gave it a little gas to try and keep the engine alive. The car seemed to recover, and when I started to take off again, the car acted like it was in "high gear" and sluggishly moved forward, then cleared up, until I got back to 45 or 50 miles per hour, and the same thing happened again.
I own three different General Motors manuals on that car, and none of them say anything about a "lockup solenoid" for the transmission. After reading in my 1989 Ford F150 (my previous truck) I stumbled onto that problem listed somewhere in the troubleshooting tips...Go figure. THIS WAS IN A FORD MANUAL!!!
I went to a local reputable transmission shop in Fort Worth Texas where I live, and asked about this "lockup solenoid", and the repairman said "Yeah, those things WILL cause the described problems". So I purchased one for less than 20 dollars, went home, drained the pan on the Caddy's tranny, and proceeded to replace my "lockup solenoid". It was a fairly simple procedure aside from the mess from the trans fluid (no matter how careful one is, a transmission will spill fluid on you, the garage floor, etc., etc. ...) I was successful in solving MY particular dilemma with the shuddering, bucking, snorting, wheel shimmy, engine dieseling, and what seemed like the brakes locking up or the torque converter not letting go- kinda like stopping a manual transmission driven car and NOT pushing the clutch pedal in, if you know what I mean!
Well, I hope this will give you some insight to the mysterious Ford problem, and if MY truck does that, I know the first thing I will check!

David A. Miller
7412 Ridge Road West
Fort Worth, Texas. 76133-7746
dallanmiller msn.com



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From: "Harald Stenger" foxinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Superduty/camper height
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:44:34 -0800

Kirk,

I imagine it would depend some on what brand camper you have, but my 11'10"
Alpenlite camper on my 99 F350 SC SRW 4x4 brings total height to 11'10" to
the top of the air conditioner. It might be a little less than that, but
that's the liberal height I came up with by hanging a measure tape off the
top of the camper and eye balling the height to the top of the A/C (don't
want to shear the top of the camper off on some overpass).

Sincerely,

Harald Stenger


"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin


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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 23:05:16 -0800
Subject: Re: Brakes
From: Dave Santo home.com>

On 3/25/2000, Gary Newlin wrote:

> Have you tried shifting into neutral while at speed, and then braking to a
> stop?

[snip]

I've tried EVERYTHING! I think. Forward, backward, in neutral, in gear, 4x4,
4x2, uphill, downhill, with ABS fuse pulled and not and even with a New York
Yankees hat on my head while whistling "Dixie." :-) Sorry, couldn't resist.

I'm considering looking into replacing rotors, calipers and pads with
aftermarket racing parts to get rid of this annoyance; if that's possible.
But, I WILL make my feelings known to FORD!

I've only gotten 5 or 6 responses to my post, so, is this thing normal like
the dealer states??? Not with so few responses, IMHO.


--
Dave Santo
dhsanto home.com


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Date: 26 Mar 00 13:29:20 EST
From: Andthensometoo usa.net>
Subject: Re: Wallpaper

Oooops... I stayed up too late working on my Truck, read my mail, and I forgot
which list to reply to!
Anyway, I make my own wallpaper for my web pages. You can find a ford logo or
picture, lighten it, add a tint, lighten it some more, resize it ect. Did I
say LIGHTEN it?...please make sure text is readable! You can even draw your
own, or use a repeating phrase like the ones here:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://pub9.ezboard.com/bmiareafordtruckowners
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/tread/224/milan.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/daytona/843/page5.html

OK so I'm not an expert, but it's always better to make your own. If you copy
some one elses, every one will know, and the original wallpaper maker may not
be 'flattered'. Bottom line, 1) use your imagination and 2) make it light, or
at least not interfer with text.

>Anyone have any good Ford Truck or Powerstroke wallpaper or know where I >can
get some for a webpage? Thanks...Pete



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From: "Pete Calabrese" banet.net>
Subject: Re: Wallpaper
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:05:23 -0500

Yeah, I've done that will all my mustang, jetski, SHO wallpaper...was
looking for an image to start with though....Powerstroke....Ford Trucks,
etc....I have a few plain ol' Ford ones....

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1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240 w/driver
493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
1986 GMC Suburban - New paint, rims, 350/245hp


-----Original Message-----
From: 97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Andthensometoo
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 1:29 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Wallpaper


Oooops... I stayed up too late working on my Truck, read my mail, and I
forgot
which list to reply to!
Anyway, I make my own wallpaper for my web pages. You can find a ford logo
or
picture, lighten it, add a tint, lighten it some more, resize it ect. Did I
say LIGHTEN it?...please make sure text is readable! You can even draw your
own, or use a repeating phrase like the ones here:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://pub9.ezboard.com/bmiareafordtruckowners
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/tread/224/milan.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/daytona/843/page5.html

OK so I'm not an expert, but it's always better to make your own. If you
copy
some one elses, every one will know, and the original wallpaper maker may
not
be 'flattered'. Bottom line, 1) use your imagination and 2) make it light,
or
at least not interfer with text.

>Anyone have any good Ford Truck or Powerstroke wallpaper or know where I
>can
get some for a webpage? Thanks...Pete



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