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97up-list Digest Fri, 24 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 036

In This Issue:
Re: Brakes
Exhaust System
Re: Brakes
Thanks to all....
Re: SD mud flap ??
Re: SD mud flap ??
I need a non trailer tow mirror...
Re: SD mud flap ??
Brakes
Re: Exhaust System
Wallpaper???
Superduty/camper height

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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:30:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Vinnie yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Brakes

My 2000 F350 has the same promblem....real baad when I
drove it off the lot. I have 5000 miles now and it has
gotten a little better.
Vince LaRocca

--- Dave Santo home.com> wrote:
> Are there any owners of 2000 F-250 Superduty 4x4's
> (maybe 350's or 4x2's
> also) on this list that have experienced hood
> shudder and/or steering-wheel
> shudder at the "instant" JUST BEFORE your vehicle
> comes to a full and
> complete stop? And, just as you take off from your
> complete stop, you can
> kind-of feel it "sort-of" releasing, somewhat in the
> opposite direction?
>
> When I got my SD last October, it had 8 miles on the
> odo. When I drove it
> off the lot, I turned around and drove it right into
> the service dept. They
> looked, listened and felt AND VERIFIED what I had
> told them the truck was
> doing. They told me if it didn't go away in 700 or
> 800 miles to bring it
> back and they would check it out. I did.
>
> Result: "Can't find anything wrong. It's probably
> normal. If it's still
> doing it at about 1,500 miles, bring it back in and
> we'll do a more complete
> check." I decided not to bother with them (37 miles
> from the house) anymore.
>
> At 2,000 miles I took it to another dealer (2 miles
> from the house). During
> THIS test drive, the service person said he "kind
> of" felt it and that it
> might be normal. He told me that when I bring it in
> for its first service
> (3k) they'd check everything on the front end and
> make sure everything was
> tight.
>
> Well, this morning I took it in (3,042 mi.). After I
> had explained this
> problem to the service-writer, he called the person
> who had test-driven the
> truck with me at 2,000 miles. But, instead of
> driving MY TRUCK again, we
> drove a newly-sold (not delivered yet) F-250 SD 4x4
> that had pulled in
> behind me. I only drove it 15 or 20 feet, applied
> the brakes, came to a stop
> AND IT WAS JUST LIKE MY TRUCK FELT THAT DAY IN
> OCTOBER WHEN I DROVE IT OFF
> THE OTHER DEALERS LOT.
>
> The service mgr.(?) that was with me said that the
> shudder I'm feeling IS
> NORMAL. He said that the calipers/brake-pads are
> moving back and forth; that
> he's experienced it in other trucks and in some cars
> too.
>
> From my first '57 Ford (drum brakes, for sure) in
> 1968, through more than 20
> cars/pickups, etc. since then, I HAVE NEVER
> EXPERIENCED THIS SAME THING IN
> ***ANY*** OF MY MOTORCYCLES, CARS, PICKUPS AND
> BIG-RIGS.
>
> So then, WHY are 2000 Ford F-250 SD's different than
> ALL the rest of any
> other vehicles I've owned or driven in the last 32
> years???
>
> I called Ford Customer whatever, 1-800-392-FORD, and
> they told me that my
> only recourse is to have the dealer call HIS
> district rep., or something
> like that. CS said that the dealer is the only one
> who can do that. So, it
> was useless to have called Ford in the first place.
>
> When I returned to the dealer to pick up my truck, I
> asked the service mgr.
> to call his rep. He said that there is NO ONE he can
> call for this kind of
> problem. Then, he apologized for Ford having told me
> that there WAS someone
> he could call. So, I thought I'd rely on this list,
> at least for now.
>
> TIA for your responses.
> --
> Dave Santo
> dhsanto home.com
>
>
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From: Fordman4L aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 02:24:52 EST
Subject: Exhaust System

Hello All,
I am looking for a cat-back dual exhaust system for my '99 4.6L F-150. I am
really looking for a deep mellow tone and improved power. I have been
looking at the Flowmaster 50 series but I really wanted to get some input
from all of you. My father just used glass packs on his old truck and he is
trying to get me to do the same, but I want to check out my options before I
spend my money. What kind of mufflers would you suggest for my truck? Any
opinions would be appreciated.

Daniel

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From: "dhf150dude" email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Brakes
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:26:42 -0800

Hi Dave,

Funny that i'm reading your post at this time. My 98 F-150 does it as well,
as a matter of fact just last night I had my friend drive it to verify that
I wasn't nuts. It almost feels like the trans is not downshifting until
just before the truck stops.
He is a state trooper and said that his 00 Crown Vic does the same thing....
I have the 4.2 eng. with auto. The Crown Vic has the 4.6 and they both do
it
so i'm guessing it's normal. I have 18k miles on my truck but just started
to notice this. His "Police Interceptor" has about 3k miles on it and has
done this
since he got it new.

I don't know but maybe others can enlighten us further as to it being the
trans. or brakes.

D. Holmes 98 f-150 standard cab, short bed XL, 4.2, Dk Tor/Praire Tan, 99
side moldings, factory mud flaps. And about to buy a bed-extender for
groceries, etc.


----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Santo home.com>
To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 6:24 PM
Subject: [97up-list] Brakes


> Are there any owners of 2000 F-250 Superduty 4x4's (maybe 350's or 4x2's
> also) on this list that have experienced hood shudder and/or
steering-wheel
> shudder at the "instant" JUST BEFORE your vehicle comes to a full and
> complete stop? And, just as you take off from your complete stop, you can
> kind-of feel it "sort-of" releasing, somewhat in the opposite direction?
>
> When I got my SD last October, it had 8 miles on the odo. When I drove it
> off the lot, I turned around and drove it right into the service dept.
They
> looked, listened and felt AND VERIFIED what I had told them the truck was
> doing. They told me if it didn't go away in 700 or 800 miles to bring it
> back and they would check it out. I did.
>
> Result: "Can't find anything wrong. It's probably normal. If it's still
> doing it at about 1,500 miles, bring it back in and we'll do a more
complete
> check." I decided not to bother with them (37 miles from the house)
anymore.
>
> At 2,000 miles I took it to another dealer (2 miles from the house).
During
> THIS test drive, the service person said he "kind of" felt it and that it
> might be normal. He told me that when I bring it in for its first service
> (3k) they'd check everything on the front end and make sure everything was
> tight.
>
> Well, this morning I took it in (3,042 mi.). After I had explained this
> problem to the service-writer, he called the person who had test-driven
the
> truck with me at 2,000 miles. But, instead of driving MY TRUCK again, we
> drove a newly-sold (not delivered yet) F-250 SD 4x4 that had pulled in
> behind me. I only drove it 15 or 20 feet, applied the brakes, came to a
stop
> AND IT WAS JUST LIKE MY TRUCK FELT THAT DAY IN OCTOBER WHEN I DROVE IT OFF
> THE OTHER DEALERS LOT.
>
> The service mgr.(?) that was with me said that the shudder I'm feeling IS
> NORMAL. He said that the calipers/brake-pads are moving back and forth;
that
> he's experienced it in other trucks and in some cars too.
>
> From my first '57 Ford (drum brakes, for sure) in 1968, through more than
20
> cars/pickups, etc. since then, I HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED THIS SAME THING IN
> ***ANY*** OF MY MOTORCYCLES, CARS, PICKUPS AND BIG-RIGS.
>
> So then, WHY are 2000 Ford F-250 SD's different than ALL the rest of any
> other vehicles I've owned or driven in the last 32 years???
>
> I called Ford Customer whatever, 1-800-392-FORD, and they told me that my
> only recourse is to have the dealer call HIS district rep., or something
> like that. CS said that the dealer is the only one who can do that. So, it
> was useless to have called Ford in the first place.
>
> When I returned to the dealer to pick up my truck, I asked the service
mgr.
> to call his rep. He said that there is NO ONE he can call for this kind of
> problem. Then, he apologized for Ford having told me that there WAS
someone
> he could call. So, I thought I'd rely on this list, at least for now.
>
> TIA for your responses.
> --
> Dave Santo
> dhsanto home.com
>
> ==========================================================
> To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
> the words "unsubscribe 97up-list" in the subject of the
> message.
>
>



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From: "Pete Calabrese" banet.net>
Subject: Thanks to all....
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:46:39 -0500

...who offered to help me find the truck I really wanted....

Should be picking it up next week...found exactly what I really wanted...
2000 PSD DRW Lariat LE

Can't wait!!!!!

Pete

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1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14 112 No NOS yet! : 3240
w/driver 493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64 121.53 A few years
back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
1986 GMC Suburban - New paint, rims, 350/245hp


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From: "Keith Veren" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: SD mud flap ??
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 07:00:07 -0500

That's B.S. Just go into the parts department of another Ford or L.M.
dealer and request the front and rear molded mudflaps for your year. I got
them and they are great. Keeps a lot of slop off the sides of your truck
and out of the "cavity" of your rear bumper.

Keith


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill" ismi.net>
To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 4:09 PM
Subject: [97up-list] SD mud flap ??


> Seems I have seen part numbers listed for the Superduty
> front and rear mud flaps. Does anyone have the numbers.
> Dealer tells me they have no part numbers for flaps for the
> Superduty. Are these flaps a molded flap? Thanks for any
> help. Bill
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:34:56 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham" agcs.com>
Subject: Re: SD mud flap ??

If I remember correctly, there were two different styles available
when I ordered my "Splash Guards", one for 2x4s and another for
4x4s. Make sure you get the right ones.

Keith Veren wrote:

> That's B.S. Just go into the parts department of another Ford or L.M.
> dealer and request the front and rear molded mudflaps for your year. I got
> them and they are great. Keeps a lot of slop off the sides of your truck
> and out of the "cavity" of your rear bumper.
>
> Keith
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill" ismi.net>
> To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 4:09 PM
> Subject: [97up-list] SD mud flap ??
>
> > Seems I have seen part numbers listed for the Superduty
> > front and rear mud flaps. Does anyone have the numbers.
> > Dealer tells me they have no part numbers for flaps for the
> > Superduty. Are these flaps a molded flap? Thanks for any
> > help. Bill
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From: DJBurry aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:13:53 EST
Subject: I need a non trailer tow mirror...

Hello Super Duty Owners,
I have a 2000 SD PSD and I need a non-trailer tow, small size, passenger side
mirrow housing assembly. I only need the housing and dont need the mirror.
( I hit the mirror backing into the garage and cracked the mirror housing,
but not the
mirror..:<(..) Please e-mail back or call me ...Thanks ...Dave Burry -
Denver 1-888-711-6384

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From: DJBurryaol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:25:11 EST
Subject: Re: SD mud flap ??

In a message dated 03/24/2000 8:36:19 AM Mountain Standard Time,
abrahamcagcs.com writes:

<< 97up-listford-trucks.com >>
Hello,
Mud Flaps: I checked very thoroughly for mud flaps. The best ones I found
are from J&J Supply out of California. They are frame mounted and no mounted
to the fender well lip. Very solid and work well. I had them on my 97 PSD
for 60K, never a minutes problem and looked great. I then took a pair of
flaps (less the rear mounting brackets) and installed them on the front
wheel. They worked great also. Really looks nice and you have a matching
set of mud flaps. The molded flaps Ford has for sale really are not
effective enough to keep the road dirt off the truck. (my opinion) I have to
e-mail address on my home puter, e-mail me if you want it....DAve Burry -
Denver

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From: "Douglas Petschow" metlife.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:08:13 -0500
Subject: Brakes



Same thing with my truck Dave. I have a 2000 F250SD with 1500 miles. I just
figured the shudder when I let off the brakes slightly was just part of the
break in period.





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From: "Mitchell" maine.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Exhaust System
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:19:57 -0500


> Hello All,
> I am looking for a cat-back dual exhaust system for my '99 4.6L F-150. I
am
> really looking for a deep mellow tone and improved power.

Daniel

I have a 98 F150, 4.6L and a Gibson catback exhaust. I think it improved
performance and there is a greater amount of sound on the highway. But I
wouldn't say it provides a deep mellow tone. Who knows why. Perhaps its
the size of the engine or the single overhead cam. I have a friend with a
98 Dodge Dakota and a 5.2?L V8 (not their biggest) and his Gibson catback
rally rumbles. It sounds great. I love it. Mine sounds like some Japanese
tiny thing in comparison. So if sound is what you want pass up on a Gibson
IMHO.

Stephen


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From: "Pete Calabrese" banet.net>
Subject: Wallpaper???
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:33:37 -0500

Anyone have any good Ford Truck or Powerstroke wallpaper or know where I can
get some for a webpage?

Thanks...

Pete

___________________________________________________________________
1991 Mustang LX Coupe 347 : 12.14112 No NOS yet! : 3240
w/driver 493RWHP/582RWTQ Griggs, Wilwood, NOS : 11.64121.53 A few years
back...
Hudson Valley 5.0 #00 Poughkeepsie Sports Car Club 924EM
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.snkypete.com
1993 Taurus SHO:LPM, C&L : 1998 SeaDoo XPLimited - Coffman equipped!
2000 F-350 CrewCab Powerstroke Lariat LE Dually - on it's way!


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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:47:07 +0100
Subject: Superduty/camper height
From: Kirk Werner Werner.org>

Anyone out there use their 4x4 Superduty to haul a camper?
I'm interested to know the height of the camper roof when loaded on your
truck. I Have an F350 4x4 SRW crew cab.

Thanks

Kirk


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