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97up-list Digest Mon, 21 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 012

In This Issue:
High pitched whine when in gear
Re: High pitched whine when in gear
Which Motor?
Re: Which Motor?
Rattle in F-150 Dash area?Wel
Re: Leaking Rear Window OR??
Re: Rattle in F-150 Dash area?Wel
Re: Rattle in F-150 Dash area?Wel
Re: Leaking Rear Window OR??
Re: Leaking Rear Window OR??

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From: "Paul Anderson" www.esielect.com>
Subject: High pitched whine when in gear
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:55:26 -0500


Hi Everyone,
I was unpleasantly surprised with a high pitched whine just before I got home tonight. When I have the truck (2000 F350 4x4/ V10, 3.73) in gear I get a high pitched whine. It doesn`t do it in neutral/park. Any ideas?

Thanks in Advance
Paul


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From: "Phil Rosenkranz" slip.net>
Subject: Re: High pitched whine when in gear
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:09:16 -0800

I can't resist! Is the passengers seat being occupied? :-)

Phil Rosenkranz

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> Hi Everyone,
> I was unpleasantly surprised with a high pitched whine just
> before I got home tonight. When I have the truck (2000 F350 4x4/
> V10, 3.73) in gear I get a high pitched whine. It doesn`t do it
> in neutral/park. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in Advance
> Paul
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From: "Jim and Anita Demetropoulos" javanet.com>
Subject: Which Motor?
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:04:18 -0800


We are looking at used 15 passenger Club Wagons(1998-1999) and have an engine question. Is the big V8 enouth for a van of that size or should we get the V 10? We'll be doing mostly highway driving with some load at times and maybe a small trailer ( 8x12 enclosed). There will be some around town driving also. We do not expect great mileage, but I have been told the V10 is very thirsty. Most of the vans I have had in the past were under powered so I want to try and avoid that. Also any other pros or cons on these vans would be helpful. Thanks Jim


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From: "Nicholas Androulidakis" significance.com>
Subject: Re: Which Motor?
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:25:38 -0500

I've got the V-10 in my new Excursion, Jim.

Although I've only driven about 1600 miles so far (and others have said gas
mileage improves for the first few 44-gallon tankfuls) I've been averaging
about 12.5 MPG in combined driving on highway and around town.

And of course, if you go into this apprehensive about inadequate power, buy
the V8, and then are disappointed when running loaded -- you'll only have
yourself to blame. As you know, this totally contravenes Rule #1 of the
Greek code: "Always determine early on who else can be blamed for the
problem."

So if you want to get the V8, just be sure to arrange to have your wife
suggest it.

Hope this helps. Yia sas.

Nick

Nicholas Androulidakis
nick significance.com


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| We are looking at used 15 passenger Club Wagons(1998-1999) and have an
engine question. Is the big V8 enouth for a van of that size or should we
get the V 10? We'll be doing mostly highway driving with some load at times
and maybe a small trailer ( 8x12 enclosed). There will be some around town
driving also. We do not expect great mileage, but I have been told the V10
is very thirsty. Most of the vans I have had in the past were under powered
so I want to try and avoid that. Also any other pros or cons on these vans
would be helpful. Thanks Jim
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:44:52 -0500
From: Dean Baruffi yale.edu>
Subject: Rattle in F-150 Dash area?Wel

My 2000 F-150 SC 4x2 5.4L lariat has an annoying Rattle (sounds like it's
under the entire dash) whenever I go over a bump. It sounds like a cable
is hitting something when I encounter some rough road. The weird thing is
it sounds like it's the entire dash that makes the sound.

I did find a loose plastic cover on the bottom of the steering column
touching the power steering mechanism in the engine compartment. It looks
like it servers no purpose except maybe for assembly. Maybe this is
casuing the noise and it is getting magnified by the steering column.

Any ideas? The truck made this sound when I left the dealers lot. It now
has 30 miles on it. I'm waiting for the snow to melt before I send it off
to the dealer (if I cannot cure it myself).

Thanks in advance.

-Dean



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 05:45:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Hunter yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Leaking Rear Window OR??

Dave,
I hope you will have a better luck than me. I have the same truck and the same leak,
after many trips to the dealer (trying to resolve the problem). I decided to go to a
different one. I was shocked when the other dealer told me this is a (wear and tear)
item and I have to pay for it. I really didn't know what to say, I just took my truck
and went home.
I'm going to Toledo, Ohio this weekend and I'll try a different dealer there. If
nothing happen, I just have to call and write to FORD.

I'll be interested to hear your experience.

Hunter.


> I just found a problem after it rained about 2 inches on Friday. I have a
> '97 F-150 XLT Extended Cab. Bought this just over 3 months ago and this is
> the first I have noticed this. After setting out in the parking lot at
> work all day in the rain, I noticed water dripping just above the rear
> sliding window. It seemed to come from/though the roof onto the headliner
> just above the rear window. It dripped down the seatback of the rear seat
> on to the rear seat cushion and then the carpet. Needless to say my
> thoughts went back to all the past postings about the rear window leaking
> which I have not kept. Could it be that? Or is it possibly coming from
> the grey molding which runs the complete width of the back of the cab that
> also has the high mount stop light in it? The seal looks good and tight to
> me. Got any suggestions or help? This truck is still in warranty (only
> have 27K on it) so I will be paying a visit to my dealer but any help for
> you listers would be appreciated before I go!

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:24:48 -0400
From: Mark MacDonald onlinesupport.pe.ca>
Subject: Re: Rattle in F-150 Dash area?Wel

Geeze, I have been there, and done that.... I had the same annoying clunk
when I went over a bump.. After having it in to the dealer, and them test
driving it, they could not make it make the noise, and told me to try and
find out where it was coming from myself... After 2 months of trying to
find the source of this noise, I finally figured it out. If you grab onto
your brake pedal and wiggle it from side to side, I noticed that mine had a
good 1/4 inch play in it... I took it back to the dealer, and they looked
at it, and said there was a little nylon bushing on it that was cracked and
needed to be replaced... a 10 cent item, but since they don't make just the
bushings, had to order the whole pedal assembly... I waited a week for this
to come in, and took it back to them, they replaced the pedal assy, and it
made absolutely NO difference at all.. That play is still there.. I am
pretty fed up with it at this point, and I am just going to live with it...

But I too thought that something was hitting somewhere it shouldn't, but
that's what it turned out to be with me..

I'm interested to know if this is the same thing you are experiencing.

Cheers.



At 07:44 AM 2/22/00 -0500, you wrote:
>My 2000 F-150 SC 4x2 5.4L lariat has an annoying Rattle (sounds like it's
>under the entire dash) whenever I go over a bump. It sounds like a cable
>is hitting something when I encounter some rough road. The weird thing is
>it sounds like it's the entire dash that makes the sound.
>
>I did find a loose plastic cover on the bottom of the steering column
>touching the power steering mechanism in the engine compartment. It looks
>like it servers no purpose except maybe for assembly. Maybe this is
>casuing the noise and it is getting magnified by the steering column.
>
>Any ideas? The truck made this sound when I left the dealers lot. It now
>has 30 miles on it. I'm waiting for the snow to melt before I send it off
>to the dealer (if I cannot cure it myself).
>
>Thanks in advance.


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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:29:37 -0800
From: Jean Marc Chartier sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Rattle in F-150 Dash area?Wel

Dean Baruffi wrote:
>
> My 2000 F-150 SC 4x2 5.4L lariat has an annoying Rattle (sounds like it's
> under the entire dash) whenever I go over a bump. It sounds like a cable
> is hitting something when I encounter some rough road. The weird thing is
> it sounds like it's the entire dash that makes the sound.
>
> I did find a loose plastic cover on the bottom of the steering column
> touching the power steering mechanism in the engine compartment. It looks
> like it servers no purpose except maybe for assembly. Maybe this is
> casuing the noise and it is getting magnified by the steering column.
>
> Any ideas? The truck made this sound when I left the dealers lot. It now
> has 30 miles on it. I'm waiting for the snow to melt before I send it off
> to the dealer (if I cannot cure it myself).
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Dean
>

Dean,

This may sound stupid, but try opening the garage door
opener storage compartment door in the over head console and
see it the noise disappears. I had the same noise in my
XLT, and it sounded like it was coming from the dash. I
stuffed foam in the hinges.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:47:30 -0800
From: Jean Marc Chartier sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Leaking Rear Window OR??

Hunter wrote:
>
> Dave,
> I hope you will have a better luck than me. I have the same truck and the same leak,
> after many trips to the dealer (trying to resolve the problem). I decided to go to a
> different one. I was shocked when the other dealer told me this is a (wear and tear)
> item and I have to pay for it. I really didn't know what to say, I just took my truck
> and went home.
> I'm going to Toledo, Ohio this weekend and I'll try a different dealer there. If
> nothing happen, I just have to call and write to FORD.
>
> I'll be interested to hear your experience.
>
> Hunter.
>
> > I just found a problem after it rained about 2 inches on Friday. I have a
> > '97 F-150 XLT Extended Cab. Bought this just over 3 months ago and this is
> > the first I have noticed this. After setting out in the parking lot at
> > work all day in the rain, I noticed water dripping just above the rear
> > sliding window. It seemed to come from/though the roof onto the headliner
> > just above the rear window. It dripped down the seatback of the rear seat
> > on to the rear seat cushion and then the carpet. Needless to say my
> > thoughts went back to all the past postings about the rear window leaking
> > which I have not kept. Could it be that? Or is it possibly coming from
> > the grey molding which runs the complete width of the back of the cab that
> > also has the high mount stop light in it? The seal looks good and tight to
> > me. Got any suggestions or help? This truck is still in warranty (only
> > have 27K on it) so I will be paying a visit to my dealer but any help for
> > you listers would be appreciated before I go!
>
Hunter,

Ask your dealer to show you in the warranty book where
the window is not covered? It says Bumper to Bumper except
for .......

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:33:09 -0600
From: Jeff Hagen he.net>
Subject: Re: Leaking Rear Window OR??

My dealer agreed to replace the seal in the rear window, but not replace
the window. I told him that I read on this list that the old window had a
design flaw and it was not the seal. They replaced the seal and the window
leaked the next day at the car wash. I received a survey from Ford a
couple weeks later regarding my last service. At the end of survey I wrote
a paragraph about how the dealer wouldn't listen to me.
I received a phone call from Ford shortly after and they called my dealer
who then called me and I had a newly designed rear window installed 2 days
later. The same guy that wouldn't believe me regarding the design flaw
couldn't wait to show me the difference between the two. The old one was a
two piece design and the new one was one piece.

- Jeff
98 F150 SC XLT 5.4



> > > I just found a problem after it rained about 2 inches on
> Friday. I have a
> > > '97 F-150 XLT Extended Cab. Bought this just over 3 months ago and
> this is
> > > me. Got any suggestions or help? This truck is still in warranty (only
> > > have 27K on it) so I will be paying a visit to my dealer but any help for
> > > you listers would be appreciated before I go!
> >
>Hunter,
....


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