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97up-list Digest Wed, 21 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 104

In This Issue:
Re: Brite box
Re: Decent tires ??
Re: Sticker
Re: Decent tires ??
A question on Chicago Gas prices.
Re: Decent tires ??
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Important FTE Announcement
Re: Decent tires ??
Re: Subject: Re: ADMIN: Important FTE Announcement

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:10:00 -0400
From: RICK KANE netzero.net>
Subject: Re: Brite box

When I got mine I had already installed 80/100w bulbs. They lasted a
few months and burned out the Brite Box. The company replaced it with
no questions, I went back to stock bulbs and haven't lost one in over a
year. I'm driving in the dark at least 1 1/2 hours every day. No heat
problems at all. BTW, the high watt bulbs were a waste of money.
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From: RRESTORE aol.com
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:22:27 EDT
Subject: Re: Decent tires ??

Hi all,

My '97 4.6 2 X 4 36,000 mile Flareside is in need of tires. Not that the
Generals are worn out, it's just that I can't stand any longer the hideous
traction they provide, especially on wet roads. I tow a car trailer with my
lovable F-150 and enough is enough. I need a tire that grips in the rain.
I'm open to good suggestions on make, type and cost. Who do I talk to?
Thanks and GO FORD!

John Mc
'97 F-150
'64 T'bird
'63 Falcon
'77 Lincoln

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From: RRESTORE aol.com
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:22:28 EDT
Subject: Re: Sticker

In a message dated 6/21/00 10:22:25 AM Central Daylight Time,
listar ford-trucks.com writes:

> Can anyone tell me where I can find a "Piss On Chevy" sticker on the
internet?
> ???????

Yes, I'd like one too, they really show a lot of class.

John Mc
'97 F-150

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From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:10:08 EDT
Subject: Re: Decent tires ??

At the risk of getting shot at, I have a set of Goodyear rain tires on one of
my cars and I will admit, they work well in rain. In snow they are not worth
squat but rain they work well. These are the siped tread with the single
groove down the middle.

Goodyear make a truck tire of a similer design with two grooves. A friend of
mine has them on his 97 F150 and generally likes them BUT again, they are not
an agressive tread and are limited in off road situations. If I remember
there are some folks on this site that use the smae tire in the Seattle area
(rain/drizzle capital of the US) and they seemed pretty pleased.

JohnG.

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From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:16:27 EDT
Subject: A question on Chicago Gas prices.

To anyone in the Chicago area. Some has told me that the city of Chicago
levies a tax on gasoline over and avove the IL fuel tax. I was quoted an
astronomical number of 51 cents a gallon just for the Chicago tax. Can
anyone verify or set me straight on the real number?

John G.

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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 02:10:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Decent tires ??
From: Glenn S See juno.com>

I got 41k on the original Generals on my '98 4x2 SC, but they slipped and
slid all over the place. Now have Michelin LTX M/S and am very pleased
with their ride and handling, especially in the rain. I believe the
A/T tread has a slightly more open tread design than the M/S but I don't
do that much off road work.

Steve


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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 06:47:07 -0400
Subject: Subject: Re: ADMIN: Important FTE Announcement
From: "Steve and Caryl Baron" rcn.com>

1. Sorry that Ford doesn't see fit to provide the needed support for these
sites. They should have a bit of appreciation for how tightly bonded these
groups are, how accessible and open, and what a really good a sales tool the
presence of the sites is. And, I think that by allowing free criticism of
the products (Ford Trucks) they aren't sending us to the other folks, but
are really keeping us in their family.

2. Hope the ads won't be the same kind of con-job on the Ford internet site
- that is really hateful advertising, and that our ads won't be so colorful
or intrusive. I'll hope for something close to the infamous subliminal
popcorn ads of the 1980's.

3. Hope you'll be able to find sufficient advertisers to do the job for you
- provide sufficient income - easily. This will be a interesting test.

Would you mind sharing (I don't see the figures on the site) how many
subscribers are in these various sites, please?

Steve
--
Steve Baron New York, NY baronny rcn.com

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From: RSnovi aol.com
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 08:45:20 EDT
Subject: Re: Decent tires ??

In a message dated 6/22/00 3:12:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sseeplane juno.com writes:

Michelins ride great , i had a set on the stang a while back, and i was
amazed at the difference between them and goodyears. They did awesome in the
rain too , when ever you would his a big puddle it would never skid left or
right. If i didnt have such a heavy truck now, i would have bought them.

RS

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Date: 6/22/00 3:12:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: sseeplanejuno.com (Glenn S See)
Sender: 97up-list-bounceford-trucks.com
Reply-to: ford-trucks.com">97up-listford-trucks.c
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To: 97up-listford-trucks.com

I got 41k on the original Generals on my '98 4x2 SC, but they slipped and
slid all over the place. Now have Michelin LTX M/S and am very pleased
with their ride and handling, especially in the rain. I believe the
A/T tread has a slightly more open tread design than the M/S but I don't
do that much off road work.

Steve
>>

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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 12:24:42 -0400
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: ADMIN: Important FTE Announcement

At 06:47 AM 6/22/00 , you wrote:
>1. Sorry that Ford doesn't see fit to provide the needed support for these
>sites. They should have a bit of appreciation for how tightly bonded these
>groups are, how accessible and open, and what a really good a sales tool the
>presence of the sites is. And, I think that by allowing free criticism of
>the products (Ford Trucks) they aren't sending us to the other folks, but
>are really keeping us in their family.

If Ford sponsored sites like this, it would be difficult (though not
impossible) to keep them from influencing content.

>2. Hope the ads won't be the same kind of con-job on the Ford internet site
>- that is really hateful advertising, and that our ads won't be so colorful
>or intrusive. I'll hope for something close to the infamous subliminal
>popcorn ads of the 1980's.

The ads will be text, not graphics. Plus, each of them has to be
pre-approved by me. Catchy is cool, tacky is not.


>3. Hope you'll be able to find sufficient advertisers to do the job for you
>- provide sufficient income - easily. This will be a interesting test.
>
>Would you mind sharing (I don't see the figures on the site) how many
>subscribers are in these various sites, please?
>
>Steve

The mailing lists have roughly 5000, the message boards, at last count,
had in excess of 5000 (and the message boards are growing very fast).

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts



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