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97up-list Digest Mon, 07 Feb 2000 Volume: 01 Issue: 2003

In This Issue:
E4OD and the R4100 and more
Re: Dynomax Exhaust
Pop, not Clunk
more synthetic stuff
Re: Dynomax Exhaust
Synthetics
ADMIN: Quoting limits
Re: Dynomax Exhaust
Re: Synthetics
FW: Re: Dynomax Exhaust
Re: Dynomax Exhaust
Re: Synthetics
Re: Dynomax Exhaust
Re: Synthetics
Re: E4OD and the R4100 and more
Aluminum engine parts !?!?
Re: Dynomax Exhaust
Re: Aluminum engine parts !?!?
Re: Aluminum engine parts !?!?
single core radiator
Re: oils and synthetics

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Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 15:39:22 -0500
From: Dean Baruffi yale.edu>
Subject: E4OD and the R4100 and more

I just installed 2 electric fans in my 2000 F-150 4x2 Lariat. I put a 16"
and a 14" as two 16" fans would have been a tight squeeze. They are wired
up to come on at 185 deg F, or when the AC compressor kicks in or from a
manual switch inside the cab.

With these fans I now have room to fabricate a custom ram-air setup that
will take air from the lower front valance and route it up through a K&N
filter to the MAF (Mass Air flow) and IAT (Intake Air Temp) sensor to the
Throttle body. I did this on my 1996 Impala SS and it worked great. (not
recommended for four-wheeler's that will be doing some water crossings)

I also pulled the crank and water pump pulleys as I am waiting for my power
pulleys that I ordered off the online store. (Along with flowmaster exhaust).

Anyway, enough with the mods. Can someone tell me if the E4OD transmission
has the exact same transmission pan bolt pattern as the 4R100? I want to
order B&M part number 40290 (aluminum transmission pan) but B&M says it's
for an E4OD. They are closed now for 1 hour, so I will call and ask them
when they reopen. I just wanted other people's opinions on this.

BTW, I will have pictures and directions on my custom Ram-air for my F150
5.4L if anyone is interested.

Oh yea, I do have the 4R100 transmission as I ordered my vehicle with
California emissions. The tranny code is 44E and I check it out under the
vehicle to make sure.

Thank you
-Dean

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From: "Strukel, Mike" westgroup.com>
Subject: Re: Dynomax Exhaust
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:09:57 -0600

When I had my 96 D*dge, I put a custom cat back system with a Dynomax
muffler on it. The muffler lasted for 1 year and the muffler rusted out!
In my opinion, the quality was horrible.
Borla makes an excellent product, but they are expensive.

Mike Strukel
99 F250,SD,SC,V10,Superchip, 2" Superlift, 35x12.50 BFG MTs, Custom Muffler
deleted cat back

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 1:23 PM
To: 'Ford List - 97 Up'
Subject: [97up-list] Dynomax Exhaust

Hi all,
Anybody ever tried a Dynomax muffler or cat-back exhaust system on their
truck? They're much cheaper than Borla, just wondering if they're good or
not.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.a-1performance.com/super_turbo/systems/ford_trucks.htm

Thanks,
Mike

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From: "Joel Michael Sturm" home.com>
Subject: Pop, not Clunk
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:57:33 -0500

A while ago, I asked if anyone hears a "clunk" from the driveline during 3/2
and/or 2/1 downshifts with the '97 automatic, 4.2, 3.55, 2wd, or something
like it. Engine size probably doesn't matter that much.

Hearing nothing from you folks, I relistened and reassessed. It isn't a
"clunk" I hear--it's more like a "pop".

Does this "ring a bell"? (Sorry). I'd really like to settle this before
next month, when my warantee is officially over. It's true, though, that
it's noted in the truck's service record.

Thanks,

JS

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Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:17:15 -0600
Subject: more synthetic stuff
From: Bill Sample shermanisd.net>

Stumbled across the thread about synthetics and thought I'd put my .02
in. YEARS ago I had an Amsoil dealership and was really convinced of
the advantages of synthetic lubricants and high quality filters. I have
been using Mobil 1 for several years simply because of the availability
and economy. It's been several years since i priced Amsoil- but I think
Mobil 1 is a little less expensive. I would be interested in using
their synthetic gear lube and transmission fluid on my new vehicle. Any
experience out there with either of those products?

Also noticed that Pennzoil (IMHO a great company) has introduced a new
"Full Synthetic" that is only a little less expensive than Mobil 1.
Perhaps an introductory price at that.... any info on that?

Interesting story about Pennzoil... My cousin works in a facility that
mixes the additive compounds for several major oil companies. He
supervises the mixtures, verifies that the ratios are correct, and does
quality control at the site level. He told me that Pennzoil is much
more finicky about exact ratios, and is fussier about making sure the
tanks are properly cleaned prior to loading the additive compounds. He
also indicated that the "other" company that is currently under
discussion is not so picky. No affiliation with either....but certainly
made me think twice the next time I bought one of their products.

b

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From: jmann

living.com
Subject: Re: Dynomax Exhaust
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:02:21 -0600

(ok, let's hope the third time's a charm. This message has been bounced
twice by the new list server for original content, and that's after being
trimmed twice. I'm not sure, I think it wants blood.)

I don't know how the compare in cost, But I have a Flowmaster Series 50 "SUV
Performance " muffler on my 2000 5.4 F150 and it sounds and flows great. Not
loud enough to piss off your neighbors or drone you to death while cruising,
but with enough attitude to let the guy next to you know you're MOVIN ON!

The 50 Series (3 chamber) is not loud at normal driving speed or idle, but
REALLY wakes up when you step on the gas.

If you want real ATTITUDE, go with the 40 Series (2 chamber)

Joe
Austin, TX.
2000 F150 Lariat, 5.4, 4x4, SC, FS, Black
ARE fiberglass Tonue cover (color matched)
50 Series Flowmaster w/dual 3" chrome tips
K&N filter
Blacked out (Lariat label and stripes removed)

-----Original Message-----
From: Strukel, Mike
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 3:10 PM
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Dynomax Exhaust

When I had my 96 D*dge, I put a custom cat back system with a Dynomax
muffler on it. The muffler lasted for 1 year and the muffler rusted out!
In my opinion, the quality was horrible. Borla makes an excellent product,
but they are expensive.

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From: "Ron,Marge,Ted" sunlink.net>
Subject: Synthetics
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:19:57 -0500

Thanks all for your responses to my question on Mobil 1 and Castrol synthetics. Think I will be feeding my truck Mobil 1 as it needs to last me until retirement.....18+ yrs away yet!!
Ron

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Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:51:53 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Quoting limits

Quoting limits have been removed until I can get the bugs
worked out.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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From: RSnovi

aol.com
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:59:27 EST
Subject: Re: Dynomax Exhaust

-- Not too bad stuff, but i would recommend Bassani for fit and finish i had
both types on my 89 F150 and the Bassani was a bit more than dyno max but
sounded better and much better fit and quality. Also might look into
Flowmaster or Gibson.

RS

Hi all,
Anybody ever tried a Dynomax muffler or cat-back exhaust system on their
truck? They're much cheaper than Borla, just wondering if they're good or
not.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.a-1performance.com/super_turbo/systems/ford_trucks.htm

Thanks,
Mike

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From: "Jason Holmes" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Synthetics
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 04:07:07 PST

The other issue is on the Syntec bottle is says "Part Synthetic"

>From: "Ron,Marge,Ted" sunlink.net>
>Reply-To: 97up-list

ford-trucks.com
>To: <97up-list

ford-trucks.com>
>Subject: [97up-list] Synthetics
>Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 23:11:02 -0500
>
>
>Hi Gang,
>
> I am contemplating going with a synthetic oil for my '98 F150 SC 4.6L
>4x4. I am leaning towards using Mobil 1. Both Mobil 1 and Castrol Syntec
>oils are readily available here in my area. My dilemma is that the Castrol
>Syntec is cheaper by a bit over the Mobil 1 but I am thinking that since
>Mobil has been around the longest, it has the edge with more experience
>and development time over Castrol. I am going with the old adage that you
>get what you pay for! Am I right in this or is there no difference between
>them?
>Thanks!
> Ron
>
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From: jmann

living.com
Subject: FW: Re: Dynomax Exhaust
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:54:28 -0600

I don't know how the compare in cost, But I have a Flowmaster Deries 50 "SUV
Performand " muffler on my 2000 5.4 F150 and it sounds and flows great. Not
loud enough to piss off your neighbors or drone you to death while cruising,
but with enough attitude to let the guy next to you know you're MOVIN ON!

The 50 Series (3 chamber) is not loud at normal driving speed or idle, but
REALLY wakes up when you step on the gas.

If you want real ATTITUDE, go with the 40 Series (2 chamber)

Joe
Austin, TX.
2000 F150 Lariat, 5.4, 4x4, SC, FS, Black
ARE fiberglass Tonue cover (color matched)
50 Series Flowmaster w/dual 3" chrome tips
K&N filter
Blacked out (Lariat label and stripes removed)

-----Original Message-----
From: Strukel, Mike [mailto:Mike.Strukel

westgroup.com]
westgroup.com]>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 3:10 PM
To: '97up-list

ford-trucks.com'
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Dynomax Exhaust

When I had my 96 D*dge, I put a custom cat back system with a Dynomax
muffler on it. The muffler lasted for 1 year and the muffler rusted out!
In my opinion, the quality was horrible.
Borla makes an excellent product, but they are expensive.

Mike Strukel
99 F250,SD,SC,V10,Superchip, 2" Superlift, 35x12.50 BFG MTs, Custom Muffler
deleted cat back

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From: jmann

living.com
Subject: Re: Dynomax Exhaust
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:36:12 -0600

I don't know how the compare in cost, But I have a Flowmaster Deries 50 "SUV
Performand " muffler on my 2000 5.4 F150 and it sounds and flows great. Not
loud enough to piss off your neighbors or drone you to death while cruising,
but with enough attitude to let the guy next to you know you're MOVIN ON!

The 50 Series (3 chamber) is not loud at normal driving speed or idle, but
REALLY wakes up when you step on the gas.

If you want real ATTITUDE, go with the 40 Series (2 chamber)

Joe
Austin, TX.
2000 F150 Lariat, 5.4, 4x4, SC, FS, Black
ARE fiberglass Tonue cover (color matched)
50 Series Flowmaster w/dual 3" chrome tips
K&N filter
Blacked out (Lariat label and stripes removed)

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westgroup.com]
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From: "Keith Veren" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Synthetics
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:14:34 -0500

I agree, if you read my last post you know I like synthetics. I run Mobil-1
in my Toro Tractor, Kid's Go-Kart, all 5 cars, and any pumps, transmissionsm
geargboxes etcc that a compatable Mobil-1 is made for. No leaks and they
all run great.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 8:30 AM
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Synthetics

> Group, I would like to add my $.02 also
> I have a 1985 mercury grand marquis 302 etc..
>
> I have had Mobil 1 in it since I bought it new
> about a year ago I was coming home from vacation from Michigan
> (I live in Indiana) and right off the get go my radiator blew
> Antifreeze all over the road. well I decided to keep going instead of
> waiting for a state trooper to stop and have one of his towing companies
> gouge me $400 for a new radiator.
> So I set off for the 150 mile trip
> keeping an eye on my temp gauge
> my gauge got up to 337 when I pulled into my mechanic garage
> he was amazed that I was able to go that long with no antifreeze.
> We let the car cool down for about an hour then checked the oil
> it looked really baked but still liquid
> He told me if it wasn't for the Mobil 1 you would have fried the motor.
> I now have Mobil 1 in everything including my Lawn Mower
> So my point? you ask
> Mobil 1 saved my motor. Why would you go with anything else?
> and no I do not work for MOBIL or EXXON but I do have a speed pass!
>
> Sorry about the long post
> TINY
> >
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > I am contemplating going with a synthetic oil for my '98 F150 SC
4.6L 4x4. I am leaning towards using Mobil 1. Both Mobil 1 and Castrol
Syntec oils are readily available here in my area. My dilemma is that the
Castrol Syntec is cheaper by a bit over the Mobil 1 but I am thinking that
since Mobil has been around the longest, it has the edge with more
experience and development time over Castrol. I am going with the old adage
that you get what you pay for! Am I right in this or is there no difference
between them?
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From: "Keith Veren" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Dynomax Exhaust
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:59:04 -0500

You are correct, borla is expensive; however, I put the cat-back Borla Dual
Exhaust straight out the rear on my '99 SuperDuty F-350 V-10 which I plow
snow with in the winter and use on the beach in the summer. If I keep my
pickup 15 to 20 years (which many people do with pickups since it is not my
commuter vehicle so the miles will not add up fast), I will never by a
tailpipe, muffler, resonator, hanger, or end flair again. Period.
Stainless steel, 1,000,000 mile warrentee. If you lease or plan to trade at
3 years, do not go Borla. If you want to buy one exhaust system for the
life of the vehicle (and enjoy the extra power and rich sound), buy the
Borla system.

Keith

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From: "Strukel, Mike" westgroup.com>
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 4:09 PM
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Dynomax Exhaust

> When I had my 96 D*dge, I put a custom cat back system with a Dynomax
> muffler on it. The muffler lasted for 1 year and the muffler rusted out!
> In my opinion, the quality was horrible.
> Borla makes an excellent product, but they are expensive.
>
>
> Mike Strukel
> 99 F250,SD,SC,V10,Superchip, 2" Superlift, 35x12.50 BFG MTs, Custom
Muffler
> deleted cat back
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Schmidt [mailto:michael.schmidt

wcom.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 1:23 PM
> To: 'Ford List - 97 Up'
> Subject: [97up-list] Dynomax Exhaust
>
>
> Hi all,
> Anybody ever tried a Dynomax muffler or cat-back exhaust system on their
> truck? They're much cheaper than Borla, just wondering if they're good or
> not.
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.a-1performance.com/super_turbo/systems/ford_trucks.htm
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
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From: "Bill Wood" redsuspenders.com>
Subject: Re: Synthetics
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 22:14:27 -0500

----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Holmes hotmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 7:07 AM
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Synthetics

> The other issue is on the Syntec bottle is says "Part Synthetic"
>
>
> >From: "Ron,Marge,Ted" sunlink.net>
> >Reply-To: 97up-list

ford-trucks.com
> >To: <97up-list

ford-trucks.com>
> >Subject: [97up-list] Synthetics
> >Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 23:11:02 -0500
> >
> >
> >Hi Gang,
> >
> > I am contemplating going with a synthetic oil for my '98 F150 SC
4.6L
> >4x4. I am leaning towards using Mobil 1. Both Mobil 1 and Castrol Syntec
> >oils are readily available here in my area. My dilemma is that the
Castrol
> >Syntec is cheaper by a bit over the Mobil 1 but I am thinking that since
> >Mobil has been around the longest, it has the edge with more experience
> >and development time over Castrol. I am going with the old adage that you
> >get what you pay for! Am I right in this or is there no difference
between
> >them?
> >Thanks!
> > Ron
> >
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From: RSnovi

aol.com
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:04:51 EST
Subject: Re: E4OD and the R4100 and more

In a message dated 2/7/00 3:45:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dean.baruffi

yale.edu writes:

i doubt bolt pattern is the same but its possible, another option to check
for FoMoCo trannys is Performance Automatic, they are the real good when it
comes to severe race duty Ford autos. I have had a couple of their trannys.
pretty sure they have a web site too.

RS

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I just installed 2 electric fans in my 2000 F-150 4x2 Lariat. I put a 16"
and a 14" as two 16" fans would have been a tight squeeze. They are wired
up to come on at 185 deg F, or when the AC compressor kicks in or from a
manual switch inside the cab.

With these fans I now have room to fabricate a custom ram-air setup that
will take air from the lower front valance and route it up through a K&N
filter to the MAF (Mass Air flow) and IAT (Intake Air Temp) sensor to the
Throttle body. I did this on my 1996 Impala SS and it worked great. (not
recommended for four-wheeler's that will be doing some water crossings)

I also pulled the crank and water pump pulleys as I am waiting for my power
pulleys that I ordered off the online store. (Along with flowmaster exhaust).

Anyway, enough with the mods. Can someone tell me if the E4OD transmission
has the exact same transmission pan bolt pattern as the 4R100? I want to
order B&M part number 40290 (aluminum transmission pan) but B&M says it's
for an E4OD. They are closed now for 1 hour, so I will call and ask them
when they reopen. I just wanted other people's opinions on this.

BTW, I will have pictures and directions on my custom Ram-air for my F150
5.4L if anyone is interested.

Oh yea, I do have the 4R100 transmission as I ordered my vehicle with
California emissions. The tranny code is 44E and I check it out under the
vehicle to make sure.

Thank you
-Dean

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From: "dallanmiller" email.msn.com>
Subject: Aluminum engine parts !?!?
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:29:54 -0800

Hello,
I am the owner of a 1999 Ford F-150 XCab Xlt swb 2wd Pickup with the 4.2 liter V-6 engine. While I am sitting around waiting for my doors to crack ( that's another story...), I am curious to know if the ALUMINUM heads on my engine, as well as the CAST ALUMINUM oil pan provided to me as factory installed equipment on this 4.2 liter V-6 engine have HELI- COILS in the spark plug hole threads and the oil pan plug hole threads. I desperately hope Ford had a little fore- thought to protect these ALUMINUM threads. Anyone with ANY common sense and ANY mechanical knowledge would realize the possible consequences here. Torque vs. ALUMINUM. I know the Boys up in Detroit want to increase mpg. and cut overall weight, but this seems a bit much. Gimme a cast iron engine, cast iron heads and a STEEL oil pan anyday. At least the STEEL is more tolerant to torque in threaded areas. I do not have a problem yet, but I do change my oil every 2000 miles (YES, I SAID 2000 MILES)- Hey, oil is a whole lot cheaper than a new engine!
Anyone with information please contact me at mailto:dallanmiller

msn.com.
Thank you in advance. David A. Miller- Fort Worth, Texas

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From: "Strukel, Mike" westgroup.com>
Subject: Re: Dynomax Exhaust
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 05:51:30 -0600

Great point Keith, if you are going to keep the truck along time, the
extra cost definately is justified. In my case, I only keep my trucks 2
years or so. That extra cost is not justified in my case.

Mike

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Subject: [97up-list] Re: Dynomax Exhaust

You are correct, borla is expensive; however, I put the cat-back Borla Dual
Exhaust straight out the rear on my '99 SuperDuty F-350 V-10 which I plow
snow with in the winter and use on the beach in the summer. If I keep my
pickup 15 to 20 years (which many people do with pickups since it is not my
commuter vehicle so the miles will not add up fast), I will never by a
tailpipe, muffler, resonator, hanger, or end flair again. Period.
Stainless steel, 1,000,000 mile warrentee. If you lease or plan to trade at
3 years, do not go Borla. If you want to buy one exhaust system for the
life of the vehicle (and enjoy the extra power and rich sound), buy the
Borla system.

Keith

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From: "Keith Veren" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Aluminum engine parts !?!?
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:15:19 -0500

A properly cared for aluminum engine block, heads, manifold, whatever, will
last a long time. Just look at the famous '69 ZR-1 aluminum engine that put
out 500+ horsepower, some of which still are 100 stock and running and have
been rebuilt. I agree with you that steel is more forgiving in terms of
stripping threads, but, if you substitute studs in the heads instead of
bolts in every possible place they will work, that will vastly decrease the
possibility of stripping a thread. There are a couple of good books on
aluminum engines and fasteners, do not have the names with me now, but do a
"fasteners" search on www.amazon.com
and I am sure will find one applicable.

Keith

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> Hello,
> I am the owner of a 1999 Ford F-150 XCab Xlt swb 2wd Pickup with the
4.2 liter V-6 engine. While I am sitting around waiting for my doors to
crack ( that's another story...), I am curious to know if the ALUMINUM heads
on my engine, as well as the CAST ALUMINUM oil pan provided to me as factory
installed equipment on this 4.2 liter V-6 engine have HELI- COILS in the
spark plug hole threads and the oil pan plug hole threads. I desperately
hope Ford had a little fore- thought to protect these ALUMINUM threads.
Anyone with ANY common sense and ANY mechanical knowledge would realize the
possible consequences here. Torque vs. ALUMINUM. I know the Boys up in
Detroit want to increase mpg. and cut overall weight, but this seems a bit
much. Gimme a cast iron engine, cast iron heads and a STEEL oil pan anyday.
At least the STEEL is more tolerant to torque in threaded areas. I do not
have a problem yet, but I do change my oil every 2000 miles (YES, I SAID
2000 MILES)- Hey, oil is a w!
> hole lot cheaper than a new engine!
> Anyone with information please contact me at
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> Thank you in advance. David A. Miller- Fort Worth,
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:17:11 -0500

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 13:29:38 -0500
From: Dean Baruffi yale.edu>
Subject: single core radiator

I ordered my 2000 F-150 SC 5.4L 4x2 with heavy duty cooling. To my
surprise it only came with a single core radiator. I did get the external
transmission cooler but I would have thought the radiator would be at least
a double core version.

It this normal? How many have the heavy duty cooling ( I assume this comes
with the towing package) and only have a single core radiator?

Thanks,

Dean

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:03:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Ray Garcia yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: oils and synthetics

I have a question to all who might have an idea of
what is going on. I took my 2000 F150 V6 4.2 ltr. to
get an oil change at the Texico lub shop to change the
truck's oil. As come to the finish he explains to me
that he had to put 7 qtr. of oil to reach the full
marker on the dip stick. I was concern becuase the
manual says it only takes 6 qtrs. What the deal? I
call the dealer and he says that it only takes 6 qtrs.
I tell it to the man at Texico. I said to him, maybe
he needed to calibrate the pumps. He says it done
twice a week. The dip stick indicate that the levels
are fine. MY QUESTION IS!!!! Who is Right?

Ray

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> twelve years. But I will
> be facing one in a couple of months.
>
> The owner's manual says I'll need 16 quarts for my
> Powerstroke Diesel. What
> is a quart worth these days, the real stuff, the
> synthetic?
> --
> Steve Baron New York, NY baronny

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