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To: 97up-list-digest Subject: 97up-list-digest V2 #337 Reply-To: 97up-list Sender: owner-97up-list-digest Errors-To: owner-97up-list-digest Precedence: bulk 97up-list-digest Friday, December 17 1999 Volume 02 : Number 337 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC RE: FTE 97up - Invoices for F-150's RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC FTE 97up - comparison question..... Re: FTE 97up - New Lightning Engine Arrived! FTE 97up - engine squeal noise. RE: FTE 97up - New Lightning Engine Arrived! RE: FTE 97up - New Lightning Engine Arrived! Re: FTE 97up - comparison question..... Re: FTE 97up - New Lightning Engine Arrived! RE: FTE 97up - New Lightning Engine Arrived! FTE 97up - Identifying the 4R100 and 4R70W Re: FTE 97up - engine squeal noise. FTE 97up - Fresh air filter in 97-99 f150 RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Re: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Re: FTE 97up - engine squeal noise. Re: FTE 97up - comparison question..... ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:56:50 -0600 From: jmann Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Thanks. I did do some calling around. I can't stand CircuitCity and Best Buy doesn't carry Kenwood. One of the local sound shops "Custom Sounds" wanted $150. I wanted them by Friday, so I ordered them last night, along with a door panel tool, from Curtchfield. As always, that includes wire adapters for the factory wiring and a detailed instruction sheet for installation. I know they can be a bit high on price sometimes, but I wanted them by Friday and I really didn't see a better price here in town. I'm going to install them this weekend. I'll put in one pair first and using the fader I'll compare the factory set to the Kenwoods to see the real different and If I don't like them I'll send them back. Another nice, easy feature of Crutchfield. I look forward to reporting my results to the list. Joe - -----Original Message----- From: pennhead [mailto:pennhead Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 10:49 PM To: 97up-list Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Joe, Check out your local stereo shops for Christmas sales before placing your order with Crutchfield. You may find a deal. Regards, Penn - -----Original Message----- From: owner-97up-list [mailto:owner-97up-list Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 11:09 AM To: 97up-list Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Jensen? Ooooo, that gets me excited. I think I'm going to pick up a couple pairs of those Kenwood eXcelon KFC-X576C's. - -----Original Message----- From: Gene Ball [mailto:granvill Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 7:13 AM To: 97up-list Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC The weak link is the radio! The stock speakers are also made by Jensen. Gene Steve #1 wrote: > Gene Ball wrote: > > > Speakers are the last thing you really need to upgrade ! > > Believe it or not you really need a better radio with amps. > > I changed my radio to a nice Kenwood and MTX amps. > > I also installed a sub woofer. And I used the stock premium > > speakers that came in the truck! > > Gene > > > > jmann > > > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for speaker upgrades in an F150 SuperCab? > > > I don't want to do any cutting. Just Plug-n-Play,...loud and clear. I've > > > been looking at Crutchfield's site and they have a nice set of Kenwood > > > eXcelon KFC-X576C 5"x7" 2-ways for 129.95 per set. Their sensitivity is > > > pretty good at 92dB. I'm thinking about a set for front and back. > > > > > > I have a Lariat with premium sound and a six disc changer, will new > > > aftermarket speakers make it sound significantly better??? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Joe > > I completely disagree. In almost all stock audio systems, including the F150, > the speakers are the weak link and should be the first thing to replace. > > -- > Steve #1 > > '99 F150 "Little Foot" Regular Cab XLT 5.4 4X4 > '00 Focus ZX3 > '97 Mustang GT 4.6 > '87 K5 Blazer "Monster" Silverado 350 4X4 > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/f15099/ > > If you haven't scratched your truck off road, You're not doing it right. > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:52:44 -0700 From: "Noll, William E(Z01981)" Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Invoices for F-150's The invoice cost is the so-called dealer cost, and they're supposed to sell a vehicle somewhere between there and MSRP. But in reality, there are many "incentives" that the dealer can earn to make more money off the vehicle, even if he sells it "at cost." You can print out a rough version of the invoice vs. MSRP for just about any new vehicle at www.kbb.com . Thats the Kelly Blue Book site. I did it earlier this year for our Dodge Durango, and it was right on. I guess there is always the possibility that a dealer could sell a vehicle at a loss, but I think no matter what, EVERYONE gets screwed to some extent in the new car buying process. - -----Original Message----- From: Bryan A. Dann [ mailto:bdann Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 16:54 To: 97up-list Subject: FTE 97up - Invoices for F-150's Helloooo, The Ford dealers around here are advertising winter clearance sales on all cars and trucks including the F-series. They are selling $500.00 under invoice, what and how do I know they are showing me the correct invoice in which they actually paid for the vehicle. I know they will show me a bogus invoice, so what does the correct invoice look like. Thanks in advance! Bryan == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:09:59 -0700 From: Fogg Michael S Amn 75 CS/SCM Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC what size speakers are in a 1999 F-150 SC? I'm guessing 5x7 in the front. and 6x9 in the rear? - -----Original Message----- From: jmann Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 7:57 AM To: 97up-list Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Thanks. I did do some calling around. I can't stand CircuitCity and Best Buy doesn't carry Kenwood. One of the local sound shops "Custom Sounds" wanted $150. I wanted them by Friday, so I ordered them last night, along with a door panel tool, from Curtchfield. As always, that includes wire adapters for the factory wiring and a detailed instruction sheet for installation. I know they can be a bit high on price sometimes, but I wanted them by Friday and I really didn't see a better price here in town. I'm going to install them this weekend. I'll put in one pair first and using the fader I'll compare the factory set to the Kenwoods to see the real different and If I don't like them I'll send them back. Another nice, easy feature of Crutchfield. I look forward to reporting my results to the list. Joe - -----Original Message----- From: pennhead [mailto:pennhead Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 10:49 PM To: 97up-list Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Joe, Check out your local stereo shops for Christmas sales before placing your order with Crutchfield. You may find a deal. Regards, Penn - -----Original Message----- From: owner-97up-list [mailto:owner-97up-list Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 11:09 AM To: 97up-list Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Jensen? Ooooo, that gets me excited. I think I'm going to pick up a couple pairs of those Kenwood eXcelon KFC-X576C's. - -----Original Message----- From: Gene Ball [mailto:granvill Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 7:13 AM To: 97up-list Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC The weak link is the radio! The stock speakers are also made by Jensen. Gene Steve #1 wrote: > Gene Ball wrote: > > > Speakers are the last thing you really need to upgrade ! > > Believe it or not you really need a better radio with amps. > > I changed my radio to a nice Kenwood and MTX amps. > > I also installed a sub woofer. And I used the stock premium > > speakers that came in the truck! > > Gene > > > > jmann > > > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for speaker upgrades in an F150 SuperCab? > > > I don't want to do any cutting. Just Plug-n-Play,...loud and clear. I've > > > been looking at Crutchfield's site and they have a nice set of Kenwood > > > eXcelon KFC-X576C 5"x7" 2-ways for 129.95 per set. Their sensitivity is > > > pretty good at 92dB. I'm thinking about a set for front and back. > > > > > > I have a Lariat with premium sound and a six disc changer, will new > > > aftermarket speakers make it sound significantly better??? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Joe > > I completely disagree. In almost all stock audio systems, including the F150, > the speakers are the weak link and should be the first thing to replace. > > -- > Steve #1 > > '99 F150 "Little Foot" Regular Cab XLT 5.4 4X4 > '00 Focus ZX3 > '97 Mustang GT 4.6 > '87 K5 Blazer "Monster" Silverado 350 4X4 > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/f15099/ > > If you haven't scratched your truck off road, You're not doing it right. > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:40:12 EST From: TRITON46L Subject: FTE 97up - comparison question..... this is a question about the new chevys and the new fords. chevy/gmc claim that having their peak torque at an rpm like 4000 or so, gives the engine good pulling power throughout their powerband. they say the new engines make 90% of their peak torque from 2000-5000rpm. the new 6.0 puts out 355ft-lbs at like 2000 rpm give or take. so, in theory if what gm/chevy says is true of their engines, the new chevy/gm engines would be better for pulling than the fords. but i have read in a few magazines, that the new gm/chevy engines don't have enough low end torque. does anyone on the list know anything else about this topic? because around 4500rpm, my 4.6L (99 model), runs out of power, it just sounds cool!! but the 4.8 i test drove in the 99 silverado kept building speed above 4500 rpm. it seems like the new gm/chevy engines are made like dragster engines. i am right or wrong about this?.... having your peak torque at a low rpm is better for towing and hauling? i don't quite understand why gm/chevy would make engines peak out at 4000 rpm. unless they want dragster trucks. if anyone can fill my clueless self in on this i would be very thankful!!! thanks bill TRITON46L == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:36:24 -0600 From: "Charles Abraham" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - New Lightning Engine Arrived! Shipping was $275, and oh yea, there was no sales tax charged because it was an out-of-state transaction. Since the engine is not an exact fit for the '67 'tang, there are also two others to try it on: an '88 GT 'tang and a '93 LX 'tang. There is even a '96 F-150 4x4 that is being considered. All would require a hood modification for the blower. jmann > How much was shipping?? Heck, what was the total cost after delivery?? > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:46:23 EST From: TRITON46L Subject: FTE 97up - engine squeal noise. i have a 99 f-150 4.6L 4x2 ext cab. i have the following concern. when i start the engine, there is a loud squeal coming from what seems to be the belt. i figure that this must mean i have a loose belt. the question is, how do i fix it? as you look into the engine bay, on the left side(pass. side), there is a tensioner pulley. do i tighten it there? or just let the dealer get it done? with only approx 9000 miles on the engine, should this be happening? other than this squeal, everything else is great. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:54:40 -0600 From: Schmidt Subject: RE: FTE 97up - New Lightning Engine Arrived! Just for grins, I'm wondering... Would a Lightning engine bolt up to my '99 F150 SC with 4.2L V6/5-speed? Could I use a T-5 from a mustang? I know that it "can" be done, just wondering how hard it would be for a non-expert... Would I run into computer problems, could the suspension hold the new engine, would I need to shorten the driveshaft, etc. If so, this seems like the deal of the century- buy a bottom of the line f150 like mine + $4K engine = $21K lightning? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-97up-list [mailto:owner-97up-list Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:36 AM To: 97up-list Subject: Re: FTE 97up - New Lightning Engine Arrived! Shipping was $275, and oh yea, there was no sales tax charged because it was an out-of-state transaction. Since the engine is not an exact fit for the '67 'tang, there are also two others to try it on: an '88 GT 'tang and a '93 LX 'tang. There is even a '96 F-150 4x4 that is being considered. All would require a hood modification for the blower. jmann > How much was shipping?? Heck, what was the total cost after delivery?? > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:20:22 -0600 From: jmann Subject: RE: FTE 97up - New Lightning Engine Arrived! Would it be incorrect to say that this motor might be worth $6000 by summer of 2000. Considering that there would be no more left? Or is Ford likely to make the same mistake twice, and over build for the 2000 Lightning? Joe - -----Original Message----- From: Charles Abraham [mailto:abrahamc Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:36 AM To: 97up-list Subject: Re: FTE 97up - New Lightning Engine Arrived! Shipping was $275, and oh yea, there was no sales tax charged because it was an out-of-state transaction. Since the engine is not an exact fit for the '67 'tang, there are also two others to try it on: an '88 GT 'tang and a '93 LX 'tang. There is even a '96 F-150 4x4 that is being considered. All would require a hood modification for the blower. jmann > How much was shipping?? Heck, what was the total cost after delivery?? > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:28:08 EST From: CERESJohnG Subject: Re: FTE 97up - comparison question..... You have to go back to the marketing philosophy. The F150 and the 1500 Chevy are essentailly passenger oriented not truck oriented. They are designed for the guy/gal who want's a tuck but oh yeah, all opf the cool amenities and by the way can it ride like a car? It also spins out because the "1/2 tons share Chassis and running gear with the soccer moms' suv. Ford and Dodge have probably kept a bit more of the truck heritage in the 1/2 ton class, Gm has moved over more towards the passenger class and performance with their new engine. Have not checked blately but last time I liiked, the 2500 and 3500 were still using the old mouse motor locks, 5.7 liter. That I think says something past the sales hype that the new Vortecs are the greatest thing since sliced bread. The thing is, you can still get low speed power with proper gearing and that I suspect is where GM heads with this. lower gearing in first and second for the transmission should take care of any problems. Remember also, that there is a move afoot to put the "1/2" ton trucks into the CAFE computation. Corperate Average Fuel Economy if you will. Now you need a more fuel efficient engine which the OH cams, better breathing engines and lower displacement engines will give you. Bottom line, you want a truck with Grunt, and a tow vehicle, go to the 3/4 - 1 tons. Want a comfortable daily driver with some occasional light haul capability 1/2 ton. The days of throwing a cord of firewood in the back of a 1/2 ton pickup and not having it break are gone folks. JG == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:25:54 -0500 From: Jean Marc Chartier Subject: Re: FTE 97up - New Lightning Engine Arrived! Schmidt wrote: > > Just for grins, I'm wondering... > > Would a Lightning engine bolt up to my '99 F150 SC with 4.2L V6/5-speed? > Could I use a T-5 from a mustang? I know that it "can" be done, just > wondering how hard it would be for a non-expert... Would I run into computer > problems, could the suspension hold the new engine, would I need to shorten > the driveshaft, etc. If so, this seems like the deal of the century- buy a > bottom of the line f150 like mine + $4K engine = $21K lightning? > It should bolt right up but your clutch would not hold out for very long. A T-5 might fit if the bolt patterns fit but the yoke would need some work along with the drive shaft and I don't think the T-5 would hold up to the torque of the motor. I think 350 lbs ft is the max. Doesn't the T-5 use a cable clutch so more mods are needed. Heck if I had the $$$ I would put it in my 00 F-150 SC 4x4 5 spd. Anybody want to lend me $4000.00..... ;-) Regards Jean Marc Chartier == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:14:52 -0600 From: jmann Subject: RE: FTE 97up - New Lightning Engine Arrived! I've got the money, but I would have to upgrade the 4R70W tranny to a 4R100 and beef up the transfer case, not to mention the diffs in the front and back axles. I have a 00 F150 Lariat SC FlareSide 4x4. So if an SVT Motor costs $4000 I wonder what a new SuperDuty PowerStroke 4R100 Tranny would cost? - -----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Chartier [mailto:jmc.chartier Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 12:26 PM To: 97up-list Subject: Re: FTE 97up - New Lightning Engine Arrived! Schmidt wrote: > > Just for grins, I'm wondering... > > Would a Lightning engine bolt up to my '99 F150 SC with 4.2L V6/5-speed? > Could I use a T-5 from a mustang? I know that it "can" be done, just > wondering how hard it would be for a non-expert... Would I run into computer > problems, could the suspension hold the new engine, would I need to shorten > the driveshaft, etc. If so, this seems like the deal of the century- buy a > bottom of the line f150 like mine + $4K engine = $21K lightning? > It should bolt right up but your clutch would not hold out for very long. A T-5 might fit if the bolt patterns fit but the yoke would need some work along with the drive shaft and I don't think the T-5 would hold up to the torque of the motor. I think 350 lbs ft is the max. Doesn't the T-5 use a cable clutch so more mods are needed. Heck if I had the $$$ I would put it in my 00 F-150 SC 4x4 5 spd. Anybody want to lend me $4000.00..... ;-) Regards Jean Marc Chartier == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:49:42 -0600 From: jmann Subject: FTE 97up - Identifying the 4R100 and 4R70W How does one identify the 4R100 and 4R70W Transmissions? Mine has a small 4 square inch protrusion from the bottom of the tranny pan. Joe PS: someone told me how to id these trannies before I took delivery, but I can seem to locate the message. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:54:21 -0500 From: "Keith Veren" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - engine squeal noise. Actually, I have a mild case of the same thing - a squeal from the belt area. So I went to my buddy at the gas station, and he took-out the stethoscope and touched it around (I thought it might be a bad alternator). He determined that the problem was a "dry" or worn-out roller on the tensioner pulley. Just one bolt to fix it. I am ordering the parts today. Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 10:46 AM Subject: FTE 97up - engine squeal noise. > i have a 99 f-150 4.6L 4x2 ext cab. i have the following concern. > when i start the engine, there is a loud squeal coming from what seems to be > the belt. i figure that this must mean i have a loose belt. the question > is, how do i fix it? as you look into the engine bay, on the left > side(pass. side), there is a tensioner pulley. do i tighten it there? or > just let the dealer get it done? with only approx 9000 miles on the engine, > should this be happening? > > other than this squeal, everything else is great. > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:15:11 -0800 From: "Rivera, Max" Subject: FTE 97up - Fresh air filter in 97-99 f150 I found a foam filter under the dash of my 97 f150, located on the passenger side, and was wandering if this filter, filters out incoming dust, from the outside. It looks like its held in place by four screews, but cannot find any referance to this filter in the manuals. Any help will be apprecaiated. regards Maximo D. Rivera *Email mailto:max.rivera == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:47:14 -0600 From: "pennhead" Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Ditto on Circuit City. I also grow less fond of Best Buy with each visit. Really depends on the purpose of the visit. Crutchfield is top notch. Obtained a 8" powered Bazooka subwoofer tube from them. Are you going with a sub in your P/U? I put a 6" JBL powered subwoofer tube in my standard cab F150, utilizing the line level inputs and tying into the factory rear speaker wiring. I let a pro do this. The access point was under the passenger side door sill. The power is hardwired w/fuse directly to the battery, and it switches on/off as it detects signal to the speakers. The difference in sound is astounding. Please do inform me of your results with the Kenwood eXcelon speakers. I have a Kenwood eXcelon CD head unit in my Mitsu Montero Sport. That's also where the Bazooka resides. Regards, Penn - -----Original Message----- From: owner-97up-list [mailto:owner-97up-list Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 8:57 AM To: 97up-list Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Thanks. I did do some calling around. I can't stand CircuitCity and Best Buy doesn't carry Kenwood. One of the local sound shops "Custom Sounds" wanted $150. I wanted them by Friday, so I ordered them last night, along with a door panel tool, from Curtchfield. As always, that includes wire adapters for the factory wiring and a detailed instruction sheet for installation. I know they can be a bit high on price sometimes, but I wanted them by Friday and I really didn't see a better price here in town. I'm going to install them this weekend. I'll put in one pair first and using the fader I'll compare the factory set to the Kenwoods to see the real different and If I don't like them I'll send them back. Another nice, easy feature of Crutchfield. I look forward to reporting my results to the list. Joe - -----Original Message----- From: pennhead [mailto:pennhead Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 10:49 PM To: 97up-list Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Joe, Check out your local stereo shops for Christmas sales before placing your order with Crutchfield. You may find a deal. Regards, Penn - -----Original Message----- From: owner-97up-list [mailto:owner-97up-list Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 11:09 AM To: 97up-list Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Jensen? Ooooo, that gets me excited. I think I'm going to pick up a couple pairs of those Kenwood eXcelon KFC-X576C's. - -----Original Message----- From: Gene Ball [mailto:granvill Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 7:13 AM To: 97up-list Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC The weak link is the radio! The stock speakers are also made by Jensen. Gene Steve #1 wrote: > Gene Ball wrote: > > > Speakers are the last thing you really need to upgrade ! > > Believe it or not you really need a better radio with amps. > > I changed my radio to a nice Kenwood and MTX amps. > > I also installed a sub woofer. And I used the stock premium > > speakers that came in the truck! > > Gene > > > > jmann > > > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for speaker upgrades in an F150 SuperCab? > > > I don't want to do any cutting. Just Plug-n-Play,...loud and clear. I've > > > been looking at Crutchfield's site and they have a nice set of Kenwood > > > eXcelon KFC-X576C 5"x7" 2-ways for 129.95 per set. Their sensitivity is > > > pretty good at 92dB. I'm thinking about a set for front and back. > > > > > > I have a Lariat with premium sound and a six disc changer, will new > > > aftermarket speakers make it sound significantly better??? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Joe > > I completely disagree. In almost all stock audio systems, including the F150, > the speakers are the weak link and should be the first thing to replace. > > -- > Steve #1 > > '99 F150 "Little Foot" Regular Cab XLT 5.4 4X4 > '00 Focus ZX3 > '97 Mustang GT 4.6 > '87 K5 Blazer "Monster" Silverado 350 4X4 > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/f15099/ > > If you haven't scratched your truck off road, You're not doing it right. > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:55:34 -0600 From: "pennhead" Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Perhaps you can find this info at: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.crutchfield.com I know their catalogs provide this info. HTH, Penn - -----Original Message----- From: owner-97up-list [mailto:owner-97up-list 75 CS/SCM Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:10 AM To: '97up-list Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC what size speakers are in a 1999 F-150 SC? I'm guessing 5x7 in the front. and 6x9 in the rear? - -----Original Message----- From: jmann Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 7:57 AM To: 97up-list Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Thanks. I did do some calling around. I can't stand CircuitCity and Best Buy doesn't carry Kenwood. One of the local sound shops "Custom Sounds" wanted $150. I wanted them by Friday, so I ordered them last night, along with a door panel tool, from Curtchfield. As always, that includes wire adapters for the factory wiring and a detailed instruction sheet for installation. I know they can be a bit high on price sometimes, but I wanted them by Friday and I really didn't see a better price here in town. I'm going to install them this weekend. I'll put in one pair first and using the fader I'll compare the factory set to the Kenwoods to see the real different and If I don't like them I'll send them back. Another nice, easy feature of Crutchfield. I look forward to reporting my results to the list. Joe - -----Original Message----- From: pennhead [mailto:pennhead Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 10:49 PM To: 97up-list Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Joe, Check out your local stereo shops for Christmas sales before placing your order with Crutchfield. You may find a deal. Regards, Penn - -----Original Message----- From: owner-97up-list [mailto:owner-97up-list Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 11:09 AM To: 97up-list Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC Jensen? Ooooo, that gets me excited. I think I'm going to pick up a couple pairs of those Kenwood eXcelon KFC-X576C's. - -----Original Message----- From: Gene Ball [mailto:granvill Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 7:13 AM To: 97up-list Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC The weak link is the radio! The stock speakers are also made by Jensen. Gene Steve #1 wrote: > Gene Ball wrote: > > > Speakers are the last thing you really need to upgrade ! > > Believe it or not you really need a better radio with amps. > > I changed my radio to a nice Kenwood and MTX amps. > > I also installed a sub woofer. And I used the stock premium > > speakers that came in the truck! > > Gene > > > > jmann > > > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for speaker upgrades in an F150 SuperCab? > > > I don't want to do any cutting. Just Plug-n-Play,...loud and clear. I've > > > been looking at Crutchfield's site and they have a nice set of Kenwood > > > eXcelon KFC-X576C 5"x7" 2-ways for 129.95 per set. Their sensitivity is > > > pretty good at 92dB. I'm thinking about a set for front and back. > > > > > > I have a Lariat with premium sound and a six disc changer, will new > > > aftermarket speakers make it sound significantly better??? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Joe > > I completely disagree. In almost all stock audio systems, including the F150, > the speakers are the weak link and should be the first thing to replace. > > -- > Steve #1 > > '99 F150 "Little Foot" Regular Cab XLT 5.4 4X4 > '00 Focus ZX3 > '97 Mustang GT 4.6 > '87 K5 Blazer "Monster" Silverado 350 4X4 > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/f15099/ > > If you haven't scratched your truck off road, You're not doing it right. > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:58:39 EST From: Wolvrin704 Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC 6x8 front and back, 5x7 will also fit Jeff Craigmyle == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 01:54:57 -0500 From: Rob Subject: Re: FTE 97up - engine squeal noise. there is a tsb out for the 97's about this squeal at cold startup. the fix is to replace the belt with a revised belt. rob Keith Veren wrote: > > Actually, I have a mild case of the same thing - a squeal from the belt > area. So I went to my buddy at the gas station, and he took-out the > stethoscope and touched it around (I thought it might be a bad alternator). > He determined that the problem was a "dry" or worn-out roller on the > tensioner pulley. Just one bolt to fix it. I am ordering the parts today. > > Keith > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 10:46 AM > Subject: FTE 97up - engine squeal noise. > > > i have a 99 f-150 4.6L 4x2 ext cab. i have the following concern. > > when i start the engine, there is a loud squeal coming from what seems to > be > > the belt. i figure that this must mean i have a loose belt. the question > > is, how do i fix it? as you look into the engine bay, on the left > > side(pass. side), there is a tensioner pulley. do i tighten it there? or > > just let the dealer get it done? with only approx 9000 miles on the > engine, > > should this be happening? > > > > other than this squeal, everything else is great. > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 05:54:20 -0500 From: Karen Wall / Steve Offiler Subject: Re: FTE 97up - comparison question..... At 10:40 AM 12/16/99 EST, you wrote: >this is a question about the new chevys and the new fords. >chevy/gmc claim that having their peak torque at an rpm like 4000 or so, >gives the engine good pulling power throughout their powerband. they say.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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