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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - pickup truck ratings...
RE: FTE 97up - 4-Sale: New Ford Lightning Engines
Re: FTE 97up - K&N FIPK Induction Noise
FTE 97up - Hmmmmm...$4,000 for a Supercharged Engine???
Re: FTE 97up - Hmmmmm...$4,000 for a Supercharged Engine???
RE: FTE 97up - Hmmmmm...$4,000 for a Supercharged Engine???
Re: FTE 97up - Shift sloppyness w/4R100
Re: FTE 97up - Hmmmmm...$4,000 for a Supercharged Engine???
FTE 97up - More HP for F350
FTE 97up - Just what every weekend worrier with a Class 3 hitch needs
FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC
Re: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC
RE: FTE 97up - More HP for F350
Re: FTE 97up - More HP for F350
FTE 97up - SecuriLock, info anyone??
Re: FTE 97up - a little question on torque and horsepower...
Re: FTE 97up - Shift sloppyness w/4R100
Re: FTE 97up - More HP for F350

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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 12:31:37 -0500
From: Karen Wall / Steve Offiler
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - pickup truck ratings...

At 12:14 AM 12/8/99 EST, you wrote:

>no kidding, i remember i think when toyota commercials used to lay claim to
>being 1 ton, what a joke.

I recall back in the mid-80's Toyota had a version of the 2wd mini-pickup
they were pushing as a "1-Ton". Might have even had it on the mudflaps, if
my memory serves correctly. This vehicle actally had a payload capacity of
2000lb. In other words, a "real" 1-ton! Of course, the rest of the world
thinks "F-350" when the term "1-ton" is used.


>.... Not exactly, Since the old F100 was called the 1/2 ton and the F150
the
> 5/8's. Infact the old F1's were also called 1/2 ton. The actual naming of
> them that dates back to the first trucks. Like all pickups it seems like
> the ratings for each model change. I wouldn't at all be surprised that the
> 99F250-SD has a higher GVW rating then the 97F250-HD....

Since I have one, I can tell you the '97 F-250HD is rated at 8600lb GVWR.
An extremely common designation for vehicles in this class, having
something to do with emissions. I don't have exact dates, but there was a
time in the 80's and possibly into the early 90's (??) that vehicles over
8600 lb GVWR had lower emissions reg's. Citing an example, my
father-in-law's '85 F-250, rated at 8600lb, has no catalytic converter.

I can also tell you that the '97 F-350 4x4 differs from the 250 in the
front axle, and that's *it*. The 350 4x4 front axle is a leaf-sprung,
non-independed ("live axle") design that carries the additional weight of a
snow plow better. The beefier front axle is good for another 400lb on the
GVWR, up to 9000lb. Both the '97 F-250HD and F-350 use the exact same rear
axle, rated at 6250lb.

I was hoping to learn a bit of history from this thread. I too have always
wondered exactly where the "1/2 ton", "3/4 ton", and "1-ton" nicknames came
from. Kinda funny that my "3/4 ton" F-250HD can carry an honest 3000lb
load (I go across the scales, bed empty, with driver and two full tanks of
gas, at 5600lb.)

Steve O.
soffiler ici.net
North Scituate RI

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:26:45 -0500
From: "Shaun Mahoney"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 4-Sale: New Ford Lightning Engines

Try this link with complete engines advertised for $4,000.00
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hotrodhotline.com/vendors/perform.html

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Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 7:30 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 4-Sale: New Ford Lightning Engines

I'm adding ot to my Christmas list! Please Santa, all I want for christmas
is
a Lighting engine,please, oh please!

Jeff Craigmyle
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:44:16 -0600
From: "Bill Bowen"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - K&N FIPK Induction Noise

I purchased it a few months ago from Jacobs Electronics for $359 including
the plug wires. The URL for the ignition is
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.jacobselectronics.com/DIS.htm. The documentation highly
recommends replacing the stock (platinum!) plugs with a "solid copper core"
type, too.



> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 07:40:44 EST
> From: "Christian Bagley"
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - K&N FIPK Induction Noise
>
> Where would I be able to see a price and details of this Jacobs
Electronics
> Mileage Master ignition with 8mm plug wires?

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:03:03 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: FTE 97up - Hmmmmm...$4,000 for a Supercharged Engine???

Having purchased engines before, and currently getting ready to install a
650 horsepower (597 ft.-lb. torque) naturally-aspirated 454 Big-Block Chevy
into a nice 1967 Camero RS/SS 4-speed, I am surprised at the low cost of
$4,000 for the Lightning Engine. Hell, most Superchargers cost from $2,500
to $4,500 by themselves, so a whole, supercharged engine for $4,000??? I
wonder what the "catch" is??


Keith




- ----- Original Message -----
From: Shaun Mahoney
To:
Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 4-Sale: New Ford Lightning Engines


> Try this link with complete engines advertised for $4,000.00
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hotrodhotline.com/vendors/perform.html
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com] On Behalf Of Wolvrin704 aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 7:30 PM
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> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 4-Sale: New Ford Lightning Engines
>
> I'm adding ot to my Christmas list! Please Santa, all I want for christmas
> is
> a Lighting engine,please, oh please!
>
> Jeff Craigmyle
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:04:14 EST
From: ATUMLAW aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Hmmmmm...$4,000 for a Supercharged Engine???

In a message dated 12/13/99 12:09:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net writes:


$4,000 for the Lightning Engine. Hell, most Superchargers cost from $2,500
to $4,500 by themselves, so a whole, supercharged engine for $4,000??? I
wonder what the "catch" is?? >>

I was wondering the same thing...

VTY

Atilla
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:44:34 -0500
From: "Shaun Mahoney"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Hmmmmm...$4,000 for a Supercharged Engine???

I have no idea. Although the thought of what a supercharger might do for
your 454 scares me half to death.....I did hear that they did sell a large
lot of them - they made more than SVT needed for the Lightning production
run.

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Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 12:03 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Hmmmmm...$4,000 for a Supercharged Engine???

Having purchased engines before, and currently getting ready to install a
650 horsepower (597 ft.-lb. torque) naturally-aspirated 454 Big-Block Chevy
into a nice 1967 Camero RS/SS 4-speed, I am surprised at the low cost of
$4,000 for the Lightning Engine. Hell, most Superchargers cost from $2,500
to $4,500 by themselves, so a whole, supercharged engine for $4,000??? I
wonder what the "catch" is??


Keith




- ----- Original Message -----
From: Shaun Mahoney
To:
Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 4-Sale: New Ford Lightning Engines


> Try this link with complete engines advertised for $4,000.00
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hotrodhotline.com/vendors/perform.html
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com] On Behalf Of Wolvrin704 aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 7:30 PM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 4-Sale: New Ford Lightning Engines
>
> I'm adding ot to my Christmas list! Please Santa, all I want for christmas
> is
> a Lighting engine,please, oh please!
>
> Jeff Craigmyle
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:47:07 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Shift sloppyness w/4R100

In a message dated 12/10/99 10:54:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
szinski richmond.edu writes:

today i ordered a hypertech chip from diesel services in TX (great to deal
with) hopeing to cure some of the slop into OD and other gears and pickup
some mileage. power would be nice to turn mud terrains too. Will let you
guys know how it comes out. I can't justify spending 250 more for same thing
in a Superchip, since i know who those people are.

RS



Date: 12/10/99 10:54:56 AM Eastern Standard Time
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I had the same problem with my E40D transmission. I have tried several
products that work well to resolve the problem.

The Banks Transcommand worked very nicely. It's a module that plugs into the
transmission which will increase line pressure proportional to load. So,
shifts are normal under light driving, and more firm under heavy load. Not
sure if Banks makes a unit for the 4R100. You might want to check with them.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bankspower.com/GBhome.html

I ended up returning my Transcommand and opting for a Superchips brand
Superchip for my truck. It firmed up the transmission and also tweaked the
engine settings (timing) for added performance. The only downside to the
Superchip is now I must run premium fuel. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superchips.com

I believe that B&M makes an electronic "shift kit" for under $50 which will
allow you to change your shift characteristics on-the-fly.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bmracing.com




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Subject: FTE 97up - Shift sloppyness w/4R100


I don't like the way the 4R100 auto transmission in my new F350,duelly crew
cab shift. There is a lag of up to 3 sec after changing gears before the
clutch locks up. When towing this is particularly noticeable. I called the
Ford customer service # and was told they had no tech people and that I had
to go to a dealer. I had already done this without getting an answer. If
anyone has a good answer or the # of a tech person at Ford I would greatly
appreciate your help.
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:07:14 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Hmmmmm...$4,000 for a Supercharged Engine???

My friend ordered one of the first 10 made available, and should
have it sometime this week. I keep you posted to how it all worked
out. By-the-way, he currently has a new F-150 Lightning, but this
engine is destined for his '67 Mustang, which is presently w/o an engine.

One of many concerns he has is will it match up to the '67's trans,
which is stick-shift. A relative and owner of a local performance shop,
says "yes". We'll see. Another concern is the computer module.

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:23:49 -0700
From: "Robert Benne"
Subject: FTE 97up - More HP for F350

I don't think my first post made it - if it did, and this is a dupe, I
apologize.

I see that the 2000 F350 have approx. 35 more HP then the 99's. Great move
by Ford - the extra HP would be very nice, especially when towing to higher
altitudes. Now here's my question -

I am seriously considering adding a Banks system to the V10 on my F350 4x4
CC. They claim a 68 HP and 85 Ft Lbs. torque increase (details at
www.getpower.com/GBford.html).

I'm curious if anyone on the list has added this system and would
appreciate your first-hand comments.


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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:46:32 -0600
From: jmann living.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Just what every weekend worrier with a Class 3 hitch needs

A friend of mine just sent me this. It's an actual product!

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bumperdumper.com/bumper2.htm


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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:49:09 -0600
From: jmann living.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC

Does anyone have a recommendation for speaker upgrades in an F150 SuperCab?
I don't want to do any cutting. Just Plug-n-Play,...loud and clear. I've
been looking at Crutchfield's site and they have a nice set of Kenwood
eXcelon KFC-X576C 5"x7" 2-ways for 129.95 per set. Their sensitivity is
pretty good at 92dB. I'm thinking about a set for front and back.

I have a Lariat with premium sound and a six disc changer, will new
aftermarket speakers make it sound significantly better???

Thanks,

Joe


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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:21:23 -0800
From: Gene Ball
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Speaker upgrade for a 2000 F150 SC

Speakers are the last thing you really need to upgrade !
Believe it or not you really need a better radio with amps.
I changed my radio to a nice Kenwood and MTX amps.
I also installed a sub woofer. And I used the stock premium
speakers that came in the truck!
Gene

jmann living.com wrote:

> Does anyone have a recommendation for speaker upgrades in an F150 SuperCab?
> I don't want to do any cutting. Just Plug-n-Play,...loud and clear. I've
> been looking at Crutchfield's site and they have a nice set of Kenwood
> eXcelon KFC-X576C 5"x7" 2-ways for 129.95 per set. Their sensitivity is
> pretty good at 92dB. I'm thinking about a set for front and back.
>
> I have a Lariat with premium sound and a six disc changer, will new
> aftermarket speakers make it sound significantly better???
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:54:48 -0500
From: "Shaun Mahoney"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - More HP for F350

They claim 68 HP and 85 ft/lbs torque for the old 460ci V8. The V-10's have
a much better stock exhaust system and you will see less of an increase.
Several people have installed the PowerPack and mentioned small increases in
MPG and more power going up hills and while towing. I haven't heard of
anyone saying that the increase was worth as much as the $1,500 price tag
for the full PowerPack plus installation unless you are drastically
increasing the amount of air going into the engine in the first place by
adding a supercharger.

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Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 5:24 PM
To: Trucks Ford
Subject: FTE 97up - More HP for F350

I don't think my first post made it - if it did, and this is a dupe, I
apologize.

I see that the 2000 F350 have approx. 35 more HP then the 99's. Great move
by Ford - the extra HP would be very nice, especially when towing to higher
altitudes. Now here's my question -

I am seriously considering adding a Banks system to the V10 on my F350 4x4
CC. They claim a 68 HP and 85 Ft Lbs. torque increase (details at
www.getpower.com/GBford.html).

I'm curious if anyone on the list has added this system and would
appreciate your first-hand comments.


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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:59:51 -0500
From: "Steve J. Hodson"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - More HP for F350

Robert: The numbers you mentioned are for the old 7.5L V8. I've spoken
with folks at Banks and the numbers they quote for the V10 are more modest,
along the lines of +48hp and +69ft*lbs. (I don't have the exact numbers
handy, the brochure is tucked behind the rear seat of my 99-F350cc. I plan
to add spring for the Banks system when I'm a little more flush, at ~$1400
I'll have to wait until I can sell it as a minor mid-life crisis
expenditure! I'm interested in what exactly Ford has done to add 35 hp for
2000. Others on this site have said that the valves got ~ 1mm larger and
I've heard that cam timing may have changed along with the computer control
of fuel and spark settings. I'm really curious to see what a Banks set-up
will do for the 2000 V-10. With the improved breathing it could and a Banks
system the V-10 might produce in the range of 350hp and 500 ft*lbs. That
would be exciting!
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From: Robert Benne
To: Trucks Ford
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 5:25 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - More HP for F350


>I don't think my first post made it - if it did, and this is a dupe, I
>apologize.
>
>I see that the 2000 F350 have approx. 35 more HP then the 99's. Great move
>by Ford - the extra HP would be very nice, especially when towing to
higher
>altitudes. Now here's my question -
>
>I am seriously considering adding a Banks system to the V10 on my F350 4x4
>CC. They claim a 68 HP and 85 Ft Lbs. torque increase (details at
>www.getpower.com/GBford.html).
>
> I'm curious if anyone on the list has added this system and would
>appreciate your first-hand comments.
>
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:53:05 -0600
From: jmann living.com
Subject: FTE 97up - SecuriLock, info anyone??

Ok, my nice new beautiful blacked out 2000 F150 SC 4x4 Lariat is sitting at
the dealer's custom shop. They're waiting on a Flowmaster Deltaflow muffler
and trying to fix the keypad entry that was screwed up when they tried to
install a Viper alarm. SO, I'm thinking that Ford must offer some sort of
security/alarm module to extend the keyless entry and that might work with
the diverside keypad entry. Yet, according to Ford and the dealer, no such
animal exists. But, Ford customer service tells me about this thing they
call "SecuriLock". Something my dealer didn't really stress when I asked
about a car alarm. Hmmmm.....

SO, does anyone know anything about "SecuriLock". Does this disable the
truck unless the proper key is inserted into the ignition?? I've looked all
over Fords site and haven't found much info on it. I just see it
referenced. But, no real description. Is an alarm going to do anything for
me that SecuriLock wont, besides false and make a lot of noise.

Thanks,

Joe


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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:14:02 -0500
From: Karen Wall / Steve Offiler
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - a little question on torque and horsepower...

At 09:26 PM 12/12/99 EST, you wrote:
>ok, back to this again. in a truck, you want low rpm torque. i would think
>that you would want most of the torque made in an engine from 1500-3500
rpm.
> what i don't understand is why gmc/chevy engineers build engines with
torque
>peaking around 4000 rpm.

Two reasons:

1) to provide higher peak HP numbers which allows them to make all sorts
of advertising claims
2) because the vast majority of truck owners drive them like cars these
days, and want carlike acceleration at highway speeds


Regards,
Steve O.

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:52:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Vinnie
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Shift sloppyness w/4R100

Please let me know ASAP, how the hyperchip works. I am
interested in getting one too!!!!
Vince


- --- RSnovi aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 12/10/99 10:54:56 AM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> szinski richmond.edu writes:
>
> today i ordered a hypertech chip from diesel
> services in TX (great to deal
> with) hopeing to cure some of the slop into OD and
> other gears and pickup
> some mileage. power would be nice to turn mud
> terrains too. Will let you
> guys know how it comes out. I can't justify
> spending 250 more for same thing
> in a Superchip, since i know who those people are.
>
> RS
>
>
>
> Date: 12/10/99 10:54:56 AM Eastern Standard Time
> From: szinski richmond.edu (Zinski, Steve)
> Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Reply-to:
>
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> CC: Bammini aol.com ('Bammini aol.com')
>
> I had the same problem with my E40D transmission. I
> have tried several
> products that work well to resolve the problem.
>
> The Banks Transcommand worked very nicely. It's a
> module that plugs into the
> transmission which will increase line pressure
> proportional to load. So,
> shifts are normal under light driving, and more
> firm under heavy load. Not
> sure if Banks makes a unit for the 4R100. You might
> want to check with them.
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bankspower.com/GBhome.html
>
> I ended up returning my Transcommand and opting for
> a Superchips brand
> Superchip for my truck. It firmed up the
> transmission and also tweaked the
> engine settings (timing) for added performance. The
> only downside to the
> Superchip is now I must run premium fuel.
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superchips.com
>
> I believe that B&M makes an electronic "shift kit"
> for under $50 which will
> allow you to change your shift characteristics
> on-the-fly.
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bmracing.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bammini aol.com [mailto:Bammini aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 10:09 AM
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> Subject: FTE 97up - Shift sloppyness w/4R100
>
>
> I don't like the way the 4R100 auto transmission in
> my new F350,duelly crew
> cab shift. There is a lag of up to 3 sec after
> changing gears before the
> clutch locks up. When towing this is particularly
> noticeable. I called the
> Ford customer service # and was told they had no
> tech people and that I had
> to go to a dealer. I had already done this without
> getting an answer. If
> anyone has a good answer or the # of a tech person
> at Ford I would greatly
> appreciate your help.
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 01:36:20 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - More HP for F350

In a message dated 99-12-13 17:27:22 EST, you write:


you can do better for much cheaper, just wait a little bit give some poeple
some time to fabricate. Or just but a Paxton or Vortech and be done.

RS

Date: 99-12-13 17:27:22 EST
From: Benne-Scottsdale worldnet.att.net (Robert Benne)
Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
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To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com (Trucks Ford)

I don't think my first post made it - if it did, and this is a dupe, I
apologize.

I see that the 2000 F350 have approx. 35 more HP then the 99's. Great move
by Ford - the extra HP would be very nice, especially when towing to higher
altitudes. Now here's my question -

I am seriously considering adding a Banks system to the V10 on my F350 4x4
CC. They claim a 68 HP and 85 Ft Lbs. torque increase (details at
www.getpower.com/GBford.html).

I'm curious if anyone on the list has added this system and would
appreciate your first-hand comments.


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