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97up-list-digest Saturday, December 11 1999 Volume 02 : Number 331



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - Engine replacement (piston slap)
FTE 97up - (piston slap) the sound
FTE 97up - Shift sloppyness w/4R100
FTE 97up - 4-Sale: New Ford Lightning Engines
RE: FTE 97up - Shift sloppyness w/4R100
FTE 97up - RE: piston slap) the sound
Re: FTE 97up - RE: piston slap) the sound
RE: FTE 97up - Shift sloppyness w/4R100

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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 07:52:01 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Engine replacement (piston slap)

Components can vary, but a Short block is with out heads and a long block
comes with the heads on.

Nathan

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Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Engine replacement (piston slap)


> pardon my stupidity, but what is the difference between a long block and a
> short block? or did i just answer my own question?
>
> thanks, bill
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:25:59 -0500
From: "T.Lee"
Subject: FTE 97up - (piston slap) the sound

I own a 97 mountaineer(same to explorers) with 5.0 v8 awd. The engine makes
a funny noise in the morning during warm up. After reading below, the noise
sounds just like the diesel engine. The noise is more noticeable during
very cold morning. The noise would go away after a minute or so. The
dealer is telling me that it is perfectly normal for this type of truck. It
will make that noise until the oil is pumped up. But others are telling me
there maybe hair line cracks in the manifold. Even though the vehicle is
under warranty, they say they cant do anything. What am I to do? Any help
is appreciated
P.S. Called up headquarters and they said they cant help me because they
have to listen to the technician at the dealer.

T.Lee
> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:51:03 4
> From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
> Subject: FTE 97up - (piston slap) the sound
> The best way I can put it (the sound) is if your truck sounds anything
like a Diesel when you start it up cold, like in the >morning. You hear a
kind of "rattle" like a Diesel. When I dropped it off at the dealership I
just wrote down that it "sounds >like a Diesel when cold start in
morning", and they picked the sound right up.
>
> I had for the longest time let it go cause it sounded like it was just the
exhaust rattling/vibrating but this past week I was up > north with my
cousin, and the morning we left I started it to warm it up, and my cousin is
giving me this weird look and says > "what the hell is that?" So I
decided, what the heck I'll take it to the dealer, not expecting much and
Bingo, new engine!
>
> Hope that helped
> Vaughn
>
> 99 F250 SD SC SB XLT 4X4 5.4
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:08:56 EST
From: Bammini aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Shift sloppyness w/4R100

I don't like the way the 4R100 auto transmission in my new F350,duelly crew
cab shift. There is a lag of up to 3 sec after changing gears before the
clutch locks up. When towing this is particularly noticeable. I called the
Ford customer service # and was told they had no tech people and that I had
to go to a dealer. I had already done this without getting an answer. If
anyone has a good answer or the # of a tech person at Ford I would greatly
appreciate your help.
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:33:33 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: FTE 97up - 4-Sale: New Ford Lightning Engines

Long blocks complete with Supercharger and exhuast manifold
for just $4000.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hotrodhotline.com/vendors/perform.html



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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:51:51 -0500
From: "Zinski, Steve"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Shift sloppyness w/4R100

I had the same problem with my E40D transmission. I have tried several
products that work well to resolve the problem.

The Banks Transcommand worked very nicely. It's a module that plugs into the
transmission which will increase line pressure proportional to load. So,
shifts are normal under light driving, and more firm under heavy load. Not
sure if Banks makes a unit for the 4R100. You might want to check with them.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bankspower.com/GBhome.html

I ended up returning my Transcommand and opting for a Superchips brand
Superchip for my truck. It firmed up the transmission and also tweaked the
engine settings (timing) for added performance. The only downside to the
Superchip is now I must run premium fuel. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superchips.com

I believe that B&M makes an electronic "shift kit" for under $50 which will
allow you to change your shift characteristics on-the-fly.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bmracing.com




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Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 10:09 AM
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Subject: FTE 97up - Shift sloppyness w/4R100


I don't like the way the 4R100 auto transmission in my new F350,duelly crew
cab shift. There is a lag of up to 3 sec after changing gears before the
clutch locks up. When towing this is particularly noticeable. I called the
Ford customer service # and was told they had no tech people and that I had
to go to a dealer. I had already done this without getting an answer. If
anyone has a good answer or the # of a tech person at Ford I would greatly
appreciate your help.
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:14:03 -0800
From: Dennis Kennedy
Subject: FTE 97up - RE: piston slap) the sound

I have a question. Has Ford done anything to these remanufactured engines
to prevent the piston slap from returning?
Dennis Kennedy
kennedy roguewave.com
'99.5 F250 XLT PSD

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:51:03 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: FTE 97up - (piston slap) the sound


missed this thread at some point, sorry. Alan>>


The best way I can put it (the sound) is
if your truck sounds anything like a Diesel
when you start it up cold, like in the morning.
You hear a kind of "rattle" like a Diesel.

When I dropped it off at the dealership I just
wrote down that it "sounds like a Diesel
when cold start in morning", and they picked
the sound right up.

I had for the longest time let it go
cause it sounded like it was just the
exhaust rattling/vibrating but this
past week I was up north with my cousin,
and the morning we left I started it to warm
it up, and my cousin is giving me this weird
look and says "what the hell is that?"

So I decided, what the heck I'll take it
to the dealer, not expecting much and
Bingo, new engine!

Hope that helped
Vaughn
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:39:56 -0700
From: "Wayne Steele"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - RE: piston slap) the sound

Yes. They are using different pistons.

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From: Dennis Kennedy
To:
Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 9:14 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - RE: piston slap) the sound


> I have a question. Has Ford done anything to these remanufactured engines
> to prevent the piston slap from returning?
> Dennis Kennedy
> kennedy roguewave.com
> '99.5 F250 XLT PSD

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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 18:23:02 -0800
From: Ralph Lindberg
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Shift sloppyness w/4R100

>I ended up returning my Transcommand and opting for a Superchips brand
>Superchip for my truck. It firmed up the transmission and also tweaked the
>engine settings (timing) for added performance. The only downside to the
>Superchip is now I must run premium fuel. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superchips.com


Banks also makes a single unit that will reprogram both engine and trany
(at least that what their ads say)

Ralph Lindberg ICQ 5988954
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