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97up-list-digest Thursday, December 9 1999 Volume 02 : Number 329



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - pickup truck ratings...
Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250 oil leak
Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250 oil leak
FTE 97up - Engine replacement (piston slap)
Re: FTE 97up - Engine replacement (piston slap)
FTE 97up - ADMIN: ALL NEW SERVICES ON THE FTE WEB SITE
FTE 97up - ADMIN: New server
FTE 97up - ADMIN: New events guide
Re: FTE 97up - pickup truck ratings...
Re: FTE 97up - Engine replacement (piston slap)
Re: FTE 97up - Engine replacement (piston slap)
FTE 97up - K&N FIPK Induction Noise

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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 05:45:16 -0800
From: Ralph Lindberg
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - pickup truck ratings...

>In a message dated 99-12-08 00:04:36 EST, you write:
>
>
>no kidding, i remember i think when toyota commercials used to lay claim to
>being 1 ton, what a joke.

Total vehicle weight? But really remember that Toyota was the -only-
frame that RV makers used for class-C mini units.

Ralph Lindberg ICQ 5988954
RV and Camping FAQ
Just because MS-Window's holds 90% of the market doesn't mean it's
superior. Remember 90% of all animals are insects.



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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 08:17:36 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250 oil leak

Well it works! Now I'm not talking about an industrial strength shop-vac,
if there is such a thing. But the typical vac one might have in their garage
or basement. The suction is just enough to suspend the oil from running
out the drain hole when the plug is removed - but not enough to suck out
the oil. In fact, I picked-up this "tip", on the Ford Diesel web site.

Kevin Jerome wrote:

> Put a shop vac hose over the oil fill plug and turn it on??? ARE YOU
> NUTS????
>
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 08:35:05 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250 oil leak

Well I first open the hood.

Yes, I remove the filler cap - and even the dipstick as well. I kept my
"sequence of events" confined to what I may be doing different or new to
another on this forum.

Keith Veren wrote:

> I hope the first thing you do is remove the oil-filler cap so air can enter
> the engine and allow the oil to flow out freely without forming a vacuum!
>
> Keith
>
> >My oil changing sequence of events goes like this: loosen filter, place
> > drain pan under filter, make hole in filter and allow to drain (take a
> little time
> > so I
> > do this first), while filter is draining I move on to the oil valve with
> four, one
> > gallon
> > bottles (or a five gallon bucket), and start draining the oil pan. By the
> time I'm
> > done
> > here the filter has drained and is ready to be removed.
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:10:04 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: FTE 97up - Engine replacement (piston slap)

Had my SD at the dealers over night for
them to listen for the "piston slap"
problem. Picked it up tonight and was
told they are ordering a new engine.

Its going to take 8-10 weeks to get
and 2-3 days to install.
They said its a remanufactured engine.
I'm hoping its as good as a "new" engine.
I'm not sure if they extend warranty on the
new engine or not. I still have 2 years
left on my initial warranty.


Vaughn
99 F250 SD SC SB XLT4X4 5.4
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:29:09 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Engine replacement (piston slap)

The Ford Reman engines have been good engines. The Warranty remains the
same, you should have the remainder of your 2 year or until 36K miles. Many
people don't realize that if you got a new engine at 35,900 miles, it would
only have a 100 mile warranty and wouldn't extend out again.

Nathan
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Vaughn (VDB)
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 6:10 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Engine replacement (piston slap)


>
>
> Had my SD at the dealers over night for
> them to listen for the "piston slap"
> problem. Picked it up tonight and was
> told they are ordering a new engine.
>
> Its going to take 8-10 weeks to get
> and 2-3 days to install.
> They said its a remanufactured engine.
> I'm hoping its as good as a "new" engine.
> I'm not sure if they extend warranty on the
> new engine or not. I still have 2 years
> left on my initial warranty.
>
>
> Vaughn
> 99 F250 SD SC SB XLT4X4 5.4


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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 19:56:55 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: ALL NEW SERVICES ON THE FTE WEB SITE

Ford Truck Enthusiasts is pleased to announce the addition
of AutoGuide to web site. The AutoGuide features the
following services:

- - Price quote on a new or used truck, car or van. FREE
- - Insurance quote. FREE
- - Finance quote. FREE
- - Car Title Check, $17.50
- - Warranty purchase, varies
- - Personal credit check (useful to know BEFORE you go to
the dealer), $8.00
- - Auto accessories, varies

Check them out on the main page of the web site:
http://www.ford-trucks.com

We hope you find these services useful. Services such as
these enable us to continue to offer our free web services
to our users as we grow.

Regards,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts



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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 20:10:56 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: New server

Ford Truck Enthusiasts is pleased to announce that we
now have a new dedicated server to host our web services.
This high powered machine will be able to handle several
million file hits per day (the current server does about
100,000-200,000 per day).

The system, in a nutshell:

500Mhz Pentium III
256 megabytes of RAM
10 gigabyte 10,000 RPM hard drive.
100 megabit network connection
Redhat Linux with secure SSL server
MAE-East and Neutral network backbone connections

Currently, FTE is hosted on two shared servers with a total
of 500 meg of drive space available to us. During the
next 2-3 weeks we will transition the site over to the new
server. You should not notice any changes other than
much faster response time. As part of the move, the entire
mailing archive will be placed online with full searching
capabilities! The archive takes about 200 meg of space.
Expect to see many new free services added to the site
as we leverage the power of this new server.

Regards,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 20:47:04 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: New events guide

Go to the main page of the web site (www.ford-trucks.com)
to see our all new events guide. This calendar based
guide will allow you to add your Ford truck events.

Enjoy!
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 20:51:08 -0500
From: Paul
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - pickup truck ratings...

It was in '75 I believe that the F150 started production. I had bought an
F100 that year and kicked myself after for not going with the F150. The
F100 had the cat converter, ran unleaded gas and had the restricted fuel
filler opening. The F150 used leaded gas. I'm not sure if you mean from
your post that the F250 and F350 started production the same time as the
F150. If so you'd be incorrect. The F250 was being made at least as far
back as 1961. I don't remember ever seeing, or hearing of, a F200 or F300.
If they made 'em it was prior to the sixties. Anyone know?

At 08:55 PM 12/7/99 EST, you wrote:
>You are right, the terms 1/4 ton, 1/2t ton and so forth don't mean a lot in
>todays market. Back when the model designations were F100, F200, F300 it
>meant something close to those numbers. I was I believe around 1978 when
the
>emmissions standards suddenly got stiffer. If you had a vehicle over 5/8
ton
>the restrictions were eased considerably. So, the 150 class was born, all
the
>model numbers jumped accordingly and it's been with us ever since.
>
>John G
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:00:32 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Engine replacement (piston slap)

Hi Nathan,

Thanks for the response.
Do you know if the Ford reman. engines are built
from the block up? (Everything but block replaced)
Or are they just replacing pistons, or whatever
is going bad, and leaving rest as is? (Hope not)!

Thanks
Vaughn







remains the same, you should have the remainder of your 2 year
or until 36K miles. Many people don't realize that if you got a
new engine at 35,900 miles, it would only have a 100 mile
warranty and wouldn't extend out again.>>

Nathan
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From: Vaughn (VDB)
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 6:10 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Engine replacement (piston slap)


>
>
> Had my SD at the dealers over night for
> them to listen for the "piston slap"
> problem. Picked it up tonight and was
> told they are ordering a new engine.
>
> Its going to take 8-10 weeks to get
> and 2-3 days to install.
> They said its a remanufactured engine.
> I'm hoping its as good as a "new" engine.
> I'm not sure if they extend warranty on the
> new engine or not. I still have 2 years
> left on my initial warranty.
>
>
> Vaughn
> 99 F250 SD SC SB XLT4X4 5.4
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 22:18:33 -0500
From: Alan
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Engine replacement (piston slap)

What do I need to listen for to hear this slap? I might have missed this
thread at some point, sorry.
Alan

"Vaughn (VDB)" wrote:

> Had my SD at the dealers over night for
> them to listen for the "piston slap"
> problem. Picked it up tonight and was
> told they are ordering a new engine.
>
> Its going to take 8-10 weeks to get
> and 2-3 days to install.
> They said its a remanufactured engine.
> I'm hoping its as good as a "new" engine.
> I'm not sure if they extend warranty on the
> new engine or not. I still have 2 years
> left on my initial warranty.
>
>
> Vaughn
> 99 F250 SD SC SB XLT4X4 5.4
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:56:39 -0600
From: "Bill Bowen"
Subject: FTE 97up - K&N FIPK Induction Noise

Thanks for the tip. I'll try it this weekend. And I kept telling the wife
there was a good reason for keeping that "old stuff"...

A Granatelli Motor Sports Mass Airflow Sensor is advertised in Performance
Products Ford catalog for $264.10. They claim one is "an easy, bolt-on way
to pick up a noticeable 10 to 15 rearwheel horsepower". I've been wanting to
put one on my truck but haven't found the $$$ around the Christmas season.
I've already installed, in order, a K&N FIPK, a Flowmaster dual exhaust, a
JET Ford Performance module, and a Jacobs Electronics Mileage Master
ignition with 8mm plug wires all in the pursuit of "mileage (wife) and
performance (me)". So far, I've managed to increase highway mpg from 17 to
20. City mpg has been hard to measure due to "lead foot syndrome" but seems
to be around 14. The Jacobs was the most noticeable modification
performance-wise. Now the truck is very responsive and accelerates at a high
rate. Lots of fun...


> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 06:49:14 -0600
> From: "Doug Pogatetz"
> Subject: FTE 97up - K&N noise
>
> I have a 1997 F150 with the 4.6 and I put a K&N filter charger kit on it.
I had
> no problems with in the beginning. Then it started making a howling noise.
This
> happened at low rpms or idling. I talked with K&N and this is what it
tuned out
> for me. I live in the Chicago area and this would only happen in the
winter. I
> originally left off the stock plastic bypass box that was on the stock
> installation. I had just run a rubber hose for the K&N installation. By
splicing
> the plastic bypass box into that hose the noise disappeared. During cold
weather
> the recirculation is fast enough to create a howling noise. The box in a....


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