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97up-list-digest Monday, December 6 1999 Volume 02 : Number 326



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - K&N noise
FTE 97up - 99 F250 oil leak
Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250 oil leak
RE: FTE 97up - 99 F250 oil leak
FTE 97up - need help
RE: FTE 97up - need help
Re: FTE 97up - need help
Re: FTE 97up - need help
Re: FTE 97up - need help
Re: FTE 97up - need help
Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250 oil leak

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 06:49:14 -0600
From: "Doug Pogatetz"
Subject: FTE 97up - K&N noise

I have a 1997 F150 with the 4.6 and I put a K&N filter charger kit on it. I had
no problems with in the beginning. Then it started making a howling noise. This
happened at low rpms or idling. I talked with K&N and this is what it tuned out
for me. I live in the Chicago area and this would only happen in the winter. I
originally left off the stock plastic bypass box that was on the stock
installation. I had just run a rubber hose for the K&N installation. By splicing
the plastic bypass box into that hose the noise disappeared. During cold weather
the recirculation is fast enough to create a howling noise. The box in a
resonator type thing which disrupts the air flow enough to stop the noise.

Will a Granatelli (is this an after market mass air flow sensor) help
performance or mileage and what is the cost?

Doug


Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:50:24 -0600
From: "Bill Bowen"
Subject: FTE 97up - K&N FIPK Induction Noise

> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:18:18 -0500
> From: "Mitchell"
> Subject: FTE 97up - K&N FIPK Induction Noise

> I have had a K&N FIPK in my 98 F150 4.6L since last year. The engine just
> started making a loud resonating sound from the area of the induction tube
> on the FIPK. It occurs generally when I let off the gas to coast,
> especially when coasting after cruising for a couple of minutes. The
sound
> will go away if I blip the throttle and will generally not reoccur until I
> cruise along again for a couple of minutes. Could it be the mass flow air
> sensor? I have tried disconnecting the battery to clear the computer and
I
> checked the connections for the FIPK. Has anyone else experienced this
> phenomenon?

I have experienced the same problem with my '98 F150XLT SC FS 4.6 AT, though
it doesn't happen very often. Sounds similar to a belt slipping? I noticed
the problem shortly after the K&N installation about a year ago. I wonder if
I was too generous with the first "charging" of the filter? About five
months ago, a Ford mechanic friend warned me to be careful because excess
oil could damage the mass air sensor. Since then, I've been applying the oil
sparingly. Maybe a good excuse to the wife for replacing the sensor with a
Granatelli...




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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 19:13:25 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 F250 oil leak

where is the best place to get those stupid copper washers for oil drain? i
am at 24K and she is starting to Valdez. I noticed a lil puddle underneath
yesterday.

RS
99F250 PSD/SC/4x4
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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 16:24:43 -0800
From: john yee
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250 oil leak

I bought some from my local ford dealer for 1.02 each. One dealer wanted
1.37 though, but was out of stock.

Now that I have a few spares, I'll check the local hardware stores.

- -john

RSnovi aol.com wrote:

> where is the best place to get those stupid copper washers for oil drain? i
> am at 24K and she is starting to Valdez. I noticed a lil puddle underneath
> yesterday.
>
> RS
> 99F250 PSD/SC/4x4
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 19:25:40 -0500
From: "Suarez, William"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 99 F250 oil leak

Perhaps it's time to get one of the Fumoto drain valves and not worry about
removing the plug again. At $18.00 it's one of my smarter investments.

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Subject: FTE 97up - 99 F250 oil leak


where is the best place to get those stupid copper washers for oil drain? i
am at 24K and she is starting to Valdez. I noticed a lil puddle underneath
yesterday.

RS
99F250 PSD/SC/4x4
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 19:24:35 EST
From: TRITON46L aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - need help

hey, my father has requested that i ask everyone on the list a question
about the new super duty trucks. he plans to buy a 99 or 2000 f-350 sd.
or a 99 or 2000 dodge. he is self employed and has a small ranch. all he
would use the truck for is towing and hauling, normal trailers and fifth
wheels. he wants to know which truck is a better buy. he has owned ford
trucks all his life. he swears by the powerstroke diesel.
what he wants is opinions from people on what they recommend. we know the
psd has more power than the cummins, but it's not rated to tow as much as the
cummins engine. we have towed great big john deere tractors out of the mud
before when they have run out of fuel. we have always owned the ford
trucks, we tried chevy but they just didn't seem to have the kahunas to
get the job done.

thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.

bill
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:57:44 -0600
From: "pennhead"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - need help

I've heard from people who know that Ford's rearend holds up much better
than the Dodge. I'm talking about people who buy them to use for tow
trucks, ambulances, etc. The proof is in the pudding. Go Ford.

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Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 6:25 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - need help


hey, my father has requested that i ask everyone on the list a question
about the new super duty trucks. he plans to buy a 99 or 2000 f-350 sd.
or a 99 or 2000 dodge. he is self employed and has a small ranch. all he
would use the truck for is towing and hauling, normal trailers and fifth
wheels. he wants to know which truck is a better buy. he has owned ford
trucks all his life. he swears by the powerstroke diesel.
what he wants is opinions from people on what they recommend. we know the
psd has more power than the cummins, but it's not rated to tow as much as
the
cummins engine. we have towed great big john deere tractors out of the
mud
before when they have run out of fuel. we have always owned the ford
trucks, we tried chevy but they just didn't seem to have the kahunas to
get the job done.

thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.

bill
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 22:20:41 EST
From: RAMWORKER aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need help

I guess you're talking about the Dana 80 Dodge uses
in the 3500 and Ford uses in the F-450?

Robert

In a message dated 12/5/99 9:05:56 PM Central Standard Time,
pennhead bscn.com writes:

> I've heard from people who know that Ford's rearend holds up much better
> than the Dodge. I'm talking about people who buy them to use for tow
> trucks, ambulances, etc. The proof is in the pudding. Go Ford.
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 22:28:09 EST
From: JudgeR aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need help

I have a new 250 power stroke my brother has a new dodge with the Cummins. We
both pull Farm equipment. And we both agree the Ford has more power and
better fuel mileage. It is also better built
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 23:33:51 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need help

In a message dated 99-12-05 19:28:55 EST, you write:


well i always seem to go right on by dodge's with a load, that seem to be
good enough for me. Plus the dodges are more expensive to fix. Yea, they
make more on a cummins sale than you even want to know too.

RS

hey, my father has requested that i ask everyone on the list a question
about the new super duty trucks. he plans to buy a 99 or 2000 f-350 sd.
or a 99 or 2000 dodge. he is self employed and has a small ranch. all he
would use the truck for is towing and hauling, normal trailers and fifth
wheels. he wants to know which truck is a better buy. he has owned ford
trucks all his life. he swears by the powerstroke diesel.
what he wants is opinions from people on what they recommend. we know the

psd has more power than the cummins, but it's not rated to tow as much as
the
cummins engine. we have towed great big john deere tractors out of the
mud
before when they have run out of fuel. we have always owned the ford
trucks, we tried chevy but they just didn't seem to have the kahunas to
get the job done.

thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.

bill >>
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:34:23 -0800
From: "Brad Moulton"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need help

In our Business, we haul heavy loads in Goose neck utility trailers. We had
a 1996 Dodge 1 ton Dually
that was in an accident and totaled. We replaced it last fall with 1999
Super Duty 1 ton Powerstroke. After 53,000 miles the Ford is the hands down
winner in hauling power (mountain driving), fuel economy, and the overall
Quality of the truck is much better.
....Brad
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From: TRITON46L aol.com
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 4:31 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - need help


>hey, my father has requested that i ask everyone on the list a question
>about the new super duty trucks. he plans to buy a 99 or 2000 f-350 sd.
>or a 99 or 2000 dodge. he is self employed and has a small ranch. all
he
>would use the truck for is towing and hauling, normal trailers and fifth
>wheels. he wants to know which truck is a better buy. he has owned ford
>trucks all his life. he swears by the powerstroke diesel.
>what he wants is opinions from people on what they recommend. we know
the
>psd has more power than the cummins, but it's not rated to tow as much as
the
>cummins engine. we have towed great big john deere tractors out of the
mud
>before when they have run out of fuel. we have always owned the ford
>trucks, we tried chevy but they just didn't seem to have the kahunas to
>get the job done.
>
>thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.
>
>bill
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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 01:03:20 EST
From: DJBurry aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250 oil leak
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