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97up-list-digest Thursday, November 25 1999 Volume 02 : Number 320



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In this issue:

RE: FTE 97up - F350 vs F550 towing
FTE 97up - The X-Plan
Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan
Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan
Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan
Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan
Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan
FTE 97up - Re: F350 vs F550 towing
Re: FTE 97up - Door Ajar Sensors
Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:22:17 -0500
From: "White, Robert W"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - F350 vs F550 towing

The Big issue is the Dif, go to a dana-spicer dealer get the capacities of
the difs, bw

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Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F350 vs F550 towing


Springs, frame, running gear, brakes. In the 350, the engines got more
capability than the rest of the truck.

John G
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:04:54 PST
From: "Scott Matus"
Subject: FTE 97up - The X-Plan

I found out that my company offers the purchase of Ford Vehicles under the
"X-Plan".

Does anyone know the details of this plan? Is this the "Shaft Plan"? Or
should I just negotiate a deal on my own.

The Letter "X" is quite far from the letter "A". Which "A" is a better
plan, Right?

Scott.

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:24:47 EST
From: RAMWORKER aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan

Hi Scott,

Somewhere around twenty years ago, a Ford-natic friend of mine
was not inpressed that my Wife qualified for the "A" plan. He said that
the "X" plan was code for the "executive" level plan and that the "A"
and "B" were for the lower level employees with lower level discounts
to match. Maybe he was wrong or things have changed since then?

Best Regards,
Robert

In a message dated 11/24/99 12:11:52 PM Central Standard Time,
mr_scsi hotmail.com writes:


"X-Plan".

Does anyone know the details of this plan? Is this the "Shaft Plan"? Or
should I just negotiate a deal on my own.

The Letter "X" is quite far from the letter "A". Which "A" is a better
plan, Right? >>
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:21:26 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan

"X" plan is a much better deal than normal price (I wish I could buy at "X"
plan, but dealership employees just get a $500 rebate, but not the a or x
plan). A plan is better than X plan but not much. to figure X plan you
take A plan and add 4%.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

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From: Scott Matus
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 12:04 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - The X-Plan


> I found out that my company offers the purchase of Ford Vehicles under the
> "X-Plan".
>
> Does anyone know the details of this plan? Is this the "Shaft Plan"? Or
> should I just negotiate a deal on my own.
>
> The Letter "X" is quite far from the letter "A". Which "A" is a better
> plan, Right?
>
> Scott.
>
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:09:01 -0500
From: Bill
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan

Don't know about X plan, but I have Z plan its the same as A plan.

Scott Matus wrote:

> I found out that my company offers the purchase of Ford Vehicles under the
> "X-Plan".
>
> Does anyone know the details of this plan? Is this the "Shaft Plan"? Or
> should I just negotiate a deal on my own.
>
> The Letter "X" is quite far from the letter "A". Which "A" is a better
> plan, Right?
>
> Scott.
>
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:48:53 -0500
From: "Steve J. Hodson"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan

Nathan: On an entirely different topic, can you find out what exactly Ford
did to the 2000 V10 to add the
~ 35 hp over the 1999? My dealer says generic things like "different
computer chip and cylinder heads" but I would like to know the exact nature
of the changes (e.g. technical specifications on valve size, cam duration
and lift etc.) Can you offer any help?
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From: Union Auto
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Date: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan


>"X" plan is a much better deal than normal price (I wish I could buy at "X"
>plan, but dealership employees just get a $500 rebate, but not the a or x
>plan). A plan is better than X plan but not much. to figure X plan you
>take A plan and add 4%.
>
>Nathan Bernard
>Union Auto, Inc.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Scott Matus
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 12:04 PM
>Subject: FTE 97up - The X-Plan
>
>
>> I found out that my company offers the purchase of Ford Vehicles under
the
>> "X-Plan".
>>
>> Does anyone know the details of this plan? Is this the "Shaft Plan"? Or
>> should I just negotiate a deal on my own.
>>
>> The Letter "X" is quite far from the letter "A". Which "A" is a better
>> plan, Right?
>>
>> Scott.
>>
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>
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:04:29 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan

I don't have the exact specs, but I know they went to bigger valves (I think
aprox 1mm bigger) and they did some computer changes. The 2000's also seem
to be slightly louder (but that could be my imagination).

Nathan

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Steve J. Hodson
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan


> Nathan: On an entirely different topic, can you find out what exactly
Ford
> did to the 2000 V10 to add the
> ~ 35 hp over the 1999? My dealer says generic things like "different
> computer chip and cylinder heads" but I would like to know the exact
nature
> of the changes (e.g. technical specifications on valve size, cam duration
> and lift etc.) Can you offer any help?


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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:27:56 PST
From: "Mike & Susan Clow"
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: F350 vs F550 towing

As stated by others the rear end and springs, shocks etc are all factors
but one that is often overlooked is the brakes, its often harder to STOP a
big load than to pull it, and the brakes are a critical part of what makes a
550 so strong.

Ford has a "towing guide" with all the numbers in it, readily available at
most any dealer. The GCVWR (combined wieght of truck and trailer) is about
25,000 (more or less, I am not exactly sure) , and my 550 with the centurion
bed weighs in at about 9,600 giving a towing capacity of about something in
the 8 ton vicinity.

Depending on what you are towing that might be sort of overkill, most 5th
wheels are around 12,000 which a F-350 can do easily. Of course if you go
too much over that in what you are towing you are risking control problems
when things get dicey, and that is not something you want with a bunch of
tons following you around.

Also you want to take tongue wieght into account (how much wieght is put on
the truck by the hitch). In the F-550 the GVWR is 17,000 so the cargo
capacity is around 8,000+ (GVWR-Net truck wieght). In my case that is well
over the tongue weight of my 5th wheel (3,500)but I would be real close to
max on the F-350 I think. Naturally all that towing capacity will be wasted
unless you are using a 5th wheel or gooseneck tow, a rear-hitch tow is still
limited to about the same as a F350, due to the inherent disadvantages of
rear-hitch towing.

Happy Towing!

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:20:37 PST
From: "gene milton"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Door Ajar Sensors

I had the same problem about a month ago. What i did was spray some carb
cleaner into the door latches; they can get over lubricated. The light
hasn't been on since.

hope this helps


spray the latch with a light lub ie WD40.

>From: "Swan, Joel"
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>To: "'97up-list ford-trucks.com'"
>Subject: FTE 97up - Door Ajar Sensors
>Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:06:34 -0600
>
>I have a 97 F250 Extended Cab with the third door. Just recently, the
>"DOOR
>AJAR" indicator and the inside light stays on after closing the passenger
>side door. The door appears to be shut completely.
>
>Has anyone else had a similar problem? I thought it may just be a stuck
>sensor of some sort but couldn't find anything which appeared to be the
>"normal" door open light switch in or around the door jambs. Any
>clues/suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>
>joel
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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:57:48 -0500
From: "Steve J. Hodson"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan

Thanks Nathan. When the service manuals (chilton or similar) come out I'll
check to see if they include any other information in their specifications
tables.
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From: Union Auto
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan


>I don't have the exact specs, but I know they went to bigger valves (I
think
>aprox 1mm bigger) and they did some computer changes. The 2000's also seem
>to be slightly louder (but that could be my imagination).
>
>Nathan
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Steve J. Hodson
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 3:48 PM
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The X-Plan
>
>
>> Nathan: On an entirely different topic, can you find out what exactly
>Ford
>> did to the 2000 V10 to add the
>> ~ 35 hp over the 1999? My dealer says generic things like "different
>> computer chip and cylinder heads" but I would like to know the exact
>nature
>> of the changes (e.g. technical specifications on valve size, cam duration....


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