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97up-list-digest Thursday, November 18 1999 Volume 02 : Number 313



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - My new 2000 is here
Re: FTE 97up - Gift ideas for a father who loves his truck...
FTE 97up - Free Bike Magazine Subscription
re: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Don't post your chain letters and urban
RE: FTE 97up - Re: Box height (& 5th wheels)
FTE 97up - '00-350SD-SC-TD-4x4 dually setup
FTE 97up - F-550 springs on F-350 ??
Re: FTE 97up - F-550 springs on F-350 ??
Re: FTE 97up - Re:XLT Door Lights

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:10:32 -0500
From: Dean Baruffi
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - My new 2000 is here

Condrads Joe. I envy you. I still have not gotten a delivery date yet on
my 2000 F-150.


It's real easy to find out if you have the 44U or 44E tranny. Look at the
tranny pan. The 44U has a flat, smooth bottom. The 44E has a very
irregular hump in the pan.


I also noticed that every F-150 with the 44E has an aluminum drive shaft
(or maybe stainless steel). Anyway, the driveshaft is shinny.

- -Dean




At 10:09 PM 11/16/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>We'll, my new 2000 F150 Lariat 4x4 SC Flareside showed up a week early. Now
>all I have to do is sell my Jetta. With the custom work that still has to
>be done and Thanksgiving, that should give me a little time. The dealer
>also said they would hang on to the truck until I sold my car. But I'm sure
>there is a limit to that. Man, I love the A-Plan!
>
>Just wanted to share the joy.
>
>Joe
>Austin ,TX.
>
>PS: Hey, where do I look to see if I got the 44U or the 44E tranny? Just in
>case I got lucky.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:30:29 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gift ideas for a father who loves his truck...

How about a diecast metal model of your dad's truck? This way he can
place it on his desk/workbench/night table, and always be able to amire
it. (Looks good under the Christmas tree too.)

I bought a model of a F-350 Super Duty pickup, from Amazon.com, for
$10, and it's really cool: wheels turns, doors and tailgate open. It's even in
red, the actual color of my truck. They have radio-controlled models too,
just search under "toys", with keyword: F-350, or "trucks" to see them all.
(Use the code GREAT-PRESENT and get $10 off purchases of $25 or more.)

Regards,



"Ron,Marge,Ted" wrote:

> Hi Matt,
> How about a remote starter!!! ....I know I would like one
>
> Ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Matthew Marietta
> To:
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 6:04 PM
> Subject: FTE 97up - Gift ideas for a father who loves his truck...
>
> >
> > My father is a Ford F150 enthusiast, if there ever was one.
> > So, think of what you would love to have most for your vehicles and
> > drop me a line...any and all suggestions are much appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:10:16 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: FTE 97up - Free Bike Magazine Subscription

I posted months back the free Motor Trend and Motorcycle
subscriptions; here's another one for Bike magazine.

Go to:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mtbr.com/newsletter/

And enter your email to receive newsletter and below that, your
address for delivery of magazine.

Regards,

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:00:06 -0500
From: kpayne ford-trucks.com
Subject: re: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Don't post your chain letters and urban

>
> Let's see, how did that line go in the movie Stripes, "Lighten up Francis."

Deal with 300+ emails a day, do it for three years, and then suddenly
deal with enormous numbers of bounces because of the posting and
all the people on the distribution list doing a reply-to-all. Then
spend $6,000-$10,000/year of your personal money doing it. If you
can do that, over, over, over, and over yet again, and not get just
a wee bit upset, then you're a better man than I. Considering how
often it happens, I think I handle myself quite well.

> I agree that these "gullibility viruses" are annoying as hell. I've put up
> with them for almost 10 years.

Its gotten far worse. I get at least 3-4 per day. The lists get
hit 3-4 times per month. In the 80s, I NEVER had this happen.
Then again, 99% of the sites where ARPA or education sites (if you
can really call FTP and GOPHER "sites") and the users had lots more
net savvy.

> But you will have new users who wont no about
> this little rule, and current uses that either wont see this, oh so kind
> message, that will surely make the evidently fatal mistake of sending one of
> these out to your lists. And when, not IF, they do I would hope that da
> fuhrer wouldn't take them out back and shoot the for their first mistake.

You, like everyone else, received a welcome message when you
subscribed. I'll post it here as a reminder to everyone:

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Everyone has been given FAIR WARNING. My administrative post
to the lists was a reminder. Your response shows that you
probably didn't bother to read the FAQ. Between my job and the
web site/mailing lists, I spent 80+ hours a week working.
Should I have to bear the burden of responsibility for another
user's laziness?

>
> There are a number of sites that list these messages. Try writing a filter
> that looks for a substring in commonly known "gullibility viruses" and dumps
> them before they hit the list. It might work a bit better than threatening
> your users.

I'll write the Perl filters if you volunteer to handle telling
the users why they mail didn't show up on the lists when they
complain about it. Deal? (suddenly it gets quiet)

In the future, please don't play list cop with sarcastic replies
to administrative posts if you haven't bothered to read the FAQ.

Ken Payne
Admin
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:28:39 -0700
From: Jay Murphy
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Re: Box height (& 5th wheels)

My dealer did a reverse TSB (2" to 4" blocks) on my 2000 SD - shocks, sway
bar and blocks. It didn't cost me anything. I suggest you talk to your
dealer.

Jay

- -----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Adams [mailto:adamsb asu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 10:10 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Box height (& 5th wheels)


Well I am in the reverse situation. I just got in my 2000 SD CC V10 LWB
last week (after 5months) and it has the 2" blocks in the back. I wanted
the four so I could just put the leveling kit on it and call it good. But
my truck sits level as it is. From what I got out of other posts, they
would have to swap the shocks, and the sway bar to swap the blocks out. I
dont know if they will do this. For free anyways.

Brandon

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Dorff
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 9:16 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Box height (& 5th wheels)


> Note also that the trailer should be riding approximately level. So, if
> extending the pin box makes the front of your trailer sit too much (more
> than a couple inches) higher than the back of your trailer, your only
> resort to getting "sufficient" clearance between the truck and the
> trailer, is to lower the truck.
>
> I'm having the dealer checking on the possibility of them covering
> having the 4" rear spacer blocks replaced with 2" blocks (between the
> rear axle and the leaf springs). Back in January when we bought the
> truck, I'd heard Ford was covering the procedure, but I thought it was
> to remove the 4" spacer block (4x4) altogether. That wasn't immediately
> appealing, but I didn't investigate the 2" lowering either then.
>
> Now that we have the 5th wheel, and having towed it a bit, I see the
> current 4" clearance should really be 6". It's touched a few times, but
> I've been partially expecting it and have been slow and careful when in
> those situations. We had the the factory-installed 2" lift on the
> trailer. I don't want to make the trailer sit too high by additionally
> "flipping the axles". The trailer sits about level with 4" clearance,
> so the next step is to lower the rear of the truck by 2".
>
> I'll try to let you know what the dealer responds with.
>
> -Dick Dorff
>
> '99 F250 SD CC SB XLT V10 3.73LS
>
> > Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 06:43:13 -0500
> > From: Bill
> > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Box height
> >
> > When the trailer is hitched and the full pin weight is on the truck you
should have
> > a least 6" of clearance between trailer and bed rail at the rear of the
truck and
> > no more than 1" higher at the front. If when you try to hitch on level
ground the
> > distance between the rear bed rail and trailer is only 2" or 3" its to
close.
> > Either adjust pin box or lower rear of truck.
> >
> >
> >
> > > > I cannot comfortably get the truck under my 5th wheel without the
> > > > rear of the box almost contacting the bottom part of the trailer.
> > > >
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:50:01 -0500
From: "White, Robert W"
Subject: FTE 97up - '00-350SD-SC-TD-4x4 dually setup

I am placing an order for a '00 350SD Super-Cab camper special TD automatic
4x4 dually. I will be using a Lance 1040 cab-over slide-in (also extends
back about 18" to provide space for generator (note: Lance and Reese make an
extension that will handle 6k tow if main hitch handles 10k)and will be
towing an enclosed 20 footer (about 5500lb gross wt- old CJ, an AVON raft w
3hp outboard and some other gear) I plan to add the following:
1. ARB's (used them before, both front and rear on F-40 they are fantastic-
PROVIDING one replaces the air-lines with braided steel- I used
stainless-steel aircraft brake-lines)
2. Gear Vender OR US Gear over /under drive
3. Banks Turbo upgrade and "chip"
4. "Jake brake" retarder
5. 12k Hydro winch
6. Firestone air suspension front & rear (should provide for instant
leveling and better ride w/o camper or load- same rule on air-lines apply)
7. "20 row" engine oil cooler w thermostat
8. Auxiliary tranny cooler w temp gage

I plan to keep same size tires, unless there is an outstanding reason to
change sizes ( I do not want to increase the ride height with a camper, I
had a tough trip through the rockies with a big slide-in!). My primary
driving will coast to coast (I'm retiring and want to see my own country) on
secondary roads, with some interstate and some off road (with and without
trailer).
The questions are:
1. which way should I go on final drive:
a) 3.73 and under-drive
b) 4.10 and over-drive - I'll scrap the lim-slip for ARB anyway
c) some other combo
2. will "electronic-shift-on-the-fly" transfer case work (auto locking hubs)
work in 4x4 with a "Jake" (exhaust) brake?
3. has anyone used ARB's with shift-on-the-fly?
4. are there any other "tuff truck" options I should look into

All comments and suggestions are welcome, thanks bw
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:04:57 -0500
From: "Mike Ruth"
Subject: FTE 97up - F-550 springs on F-350 ??

Hello Fordnatics!
I have a 99 F350 4X4 Superduty powerstroke ,supercab with the heavy front
susp. pkg and I noticed the front end was sagging at 36,000 miles. The
dealer suggested they could put F550 springs on my truck. Does anyone know
what this will do to the height and the ride of my truck. Does anyone know
if the 550 have positive arched springs? I think this is what I want, can
somone give me ideas or have experience with this? Thanks!
Mike
xplorit erols.com

99 SD SC Spwr Stk Lariat
94 E.B. Explorer


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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:15:46 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-550 springs on F-350 ??

Tuff Country makes special 6-leaf positive arch springs for the diesel
F-350, in their 3-1/2" "leveling" kit lift. I even used them on my V-10
F-350 because I have an 850 pound snowplow that I put on for 5 months during
the winter. Now the front stays nice and level with the back, even when I
lift the plow blade up (the front used to go down 3 orso inches with the
stock "snow-plow suspension" option - worthless).

Keith



- ----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Ruth
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 10:04 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - F-550 springs on F-350 ??


> Hello Fordnatics!
> I have a 99 F350 4X4 Superduty powerstroke ,supercab with the heavy front
> susp. pkg and I noticed the front end was sagging at 36,000 miles. The
> dealer suggested they could put F550 springs on my truck. Does anyone
know
> what this will do to the height and the ride of my truck. Does anyone know
> if the 550 have positive arched springs? I think this is what I want, can
> somone give me ideas or have experience with this? Thanks!
> Mike
> xplorit erols.com
>
> 99 SD SC Spwr Stk Lariat
> 94 E.B. Explorer
>
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:46:02 -0500
From: zman
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re:XLT Door Lights

does anybody know what bulb will fit? I to have a xlt and would like to
put light bulbs in there.


thanks
joe

Alan wrote:
>
> Found mine sockets in place, just put the bulbs in and replaced the red lense.
> None on the rear doors though.
> Alan
>
> MadPoodle aol.com wrote:
>
> > Were the sockets just loose behind panel? I looked ....


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