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97up-list-digest Friday, November 12 1999 Volume 02 : Number 307



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - synthetic fluids
FTE 97up - Re: transmission change
Re: FTE 97up - Re: transmission change
FTE 97up - Box height
Re: FTE 97up - Box height
Re: FTE 97up - Box height
FTE 97up - V-10 breakin-in period
Re: FTE 97up - V-10 breakin-in period

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:56:38 -0500
From: "Steve"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - synthetic fluids

If your transmission temp is getting too high I would add a cooler first
and then try synthetic fluid if you don't have a stock tranny cooler. I got
my B&M Kit from Summit for $50. The kit had everything needed for
installation and I mounted mine in the stock location. As far as I know all
97-98 F150s with the 5.4l have the E4OD transmission. At least that is what
my 97 has. I think they changed the tranny for 99-up. Hope this helps.

Steve
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Mesa/9131


>1998 1504x4sc.5.4 K&N filter,Superchip,Gibson
cat->back,26575R16Bridgestones
>my question is where is the best place to find ?synthetic tranny fluid. I
>tow a boat and sometimes a trailer..both weighing >around 4,300lb...so I
want
>to help the tranny as much as possible...the 4R70W >does the job..I put a
>tranny temp gauge on it and it revealed some problems >with my towing
>habits...well worth the money. I use Mobil1 with my >boat and van...but
have
>never used synthetics for the transmissions. Would >like a local dealer or
>outlet. Any advice? thanks..

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:46:47 EST
From: Cookies aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: transmission change

In a message dated 11/11/99 3:33:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,
owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


Subject: FTE 97up - Transmission Change

I have a standard transmission. Can it be replaced with an automatic..? I
asked the guys at my dealership, they said "we don't know.." My truck is a
v-6 f-150 XL extended cab. I have installed a Gibson cat back exhaust, KN
filter, Tornado air management system and a hypertech chip. Now if I could
only get rid of the "stick" I could tow my camper with no problems..

Thanks,
Boomer >>

~~~~ Todays trucks have a computer for the transmission (TCM) and one for the
engine management (PCM) which interfaces with the TCM. Your vehicle would
likely not meet emissions, and would also likely require a new PCM and
possibly a complete new wiring harness. The transmission takes it's signals
from the engine PCM.

Time to trade for a truck with a automatic

Randy
cookies aol.com
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:03:18 -0500
From: Dean Baruffi
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: transmission change

The other option is to leave the ECU alone and go with an after market
Non-electric-shift- transmission (read fully mechanical). I don't know
what will fit a late model Ford v6 but I would start by calling the big
tranny dealers B&M, Art Carr etc..

Passing emissions should not be too hard if it already passes with the
standard transmission. The ECU would do its thing as if the user is
shifting the transmission.

My guess is with labor and parts the swap will be in the $3000 range.


- -Dean



At 09:46 AM 11/11/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 11/11/99 3:33:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:
>
>
> Subject: FTE 97up - Transmission Change
>
> I have a standard transmission. Can it be replaced with an automatic..? I
> asked the guys at my dealership, they said "we don't know.." My truck is a
> v-6 f-150 XL extended cab. I have installed a Gibson cat back exhaust, KN
> filter, Tornado air management system and a hypertech chip. Now if I could
> only get rid of the "stick" I could tow my camper with no problems..
>
> Thanks,
> Boomer >>
>
>~~~~ Todays trucks have a computer for the transmission (TCM) and one for
the
>engine management (PCM) which interfaces with the TCM. Your vehicle would
>likely not meet emissions, and would also likely require a new PCM and
>possibly a complete new wiring harness. The transmission takes it's signals
>from the engine PCM.
>
>Time to trade for a truck with a automatic
>
>Randy
>cookies aol.com
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:35:37 -0600
From: "Harold P. Balitski"
Subject: FTE 97up - Box height

I have a few questions.

I have a 99 F250 PSD SC long box 4X4.

1. I cannot comfortably get the truck under my 5th wheel without the
rear of the box almost contacting the bottom part of the trailer. I
need to have the TSB done that pertains to this problem. I would like
to know if anybody has had this done, and what costs am I responsible
for.

2. Does anybody on this list have a comparable truck and has had it
weighed. I would like to know what it weighs as I would like to
calculate how to load my trailer, by moving the load to different
areas, so i do not exceed the GVW of the truck. Our closest scale that
works is approx. 250 miles from my hometown.

3. I have, gone offroad, and scratched the clearcoat on the Hunter
Green paint, which leaves a white strip in the center of the scratch.
I would like to know if there is any easy method of repair.

Thanks
Harold
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:29:01 EST
From: DJBurry aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Box height

Rear end height.. Ford has 2 different size spaces they install on the F-250.
One is a 4 inch and a 2 inch. Look under the back of truck and see what
size you have. The spacer is between the top of axle and rear leaf spring.
Check out a few different trucks and you will see what I am talking about.
The 2000 F-250 have the smaller spacer. I think Ford will replace that for
you for "Free", I have heard that. If you do change the spacer, you have to
re-align the rear end I think, check that out... Dave Burry- Denver, CO
303-425-1100
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:12:26 -0800
From: Ralph Lindberg
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Box height

>1. I cannot comfortably get the truck under my 5th wheel without the
>rear of the box almost contacting the bottom part of the trailer.
You should have 4 or 5 inchs height difference between the top to the
rail and the botton of the trailer.
Part of the problem is the bed-rail to bed height on the new body style
is about 1 inch more then the old style.
The only cure I know for that is resetting the hitch height and then
(maybe) jacking up the trailer.


>2. Does anybody on this list have a comparable truck and has had it
>weighed. I would like to know what it weighs as I would like to
>calculate how to load my trailer, by moving the load to different
>areas, so i do not exceed the GVW of the truck. Our closest scale that
>works is approx. 250 miles from my hometown.
I haven't bothered weighing the truck or the truck/trailer, just the trailer.

Wow, 250 miles is a long way, there isn't a moving company, trucking
company, grain elevator, or heavy truck service facility any closer?

Ralph Lindberg ICQ 5988954
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superior. Remember 90% of all animals are insects.



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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:02:43 +0100
From: "Kirk Werner"
Subject: FTE 97up - V-10 breakin-in period

To all you knowledgable V-10 owners, at what point mileage-wise is that
motor considered broken in? A friend of mine has the V10 in his '98 class C
motor home, and he said that the engine has a chip which burns out after a
certain point...this chip is designed to protect the engine during break-in,
and after the chip burns, performance increases.

Is he feeding me a bunch of bull, or is that right? I assume that if it's
correct, that my '00 F350 V-10 would be equipped with the same chip...?

Thanks

Kirk
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:37:48 -0700
From: "Brandon Adams"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - V-10 breakin-in period

Kirk
I just picked up my F250 CC LWB V10 4x4 yesterday (11/10) at the dealer and
one guy told me to keep it easy for the first 1000 miles, not do any towing,
and vary top speeds frequently. About five minutes before I left the dealer
another guy told me to drive it like I would any other time.

So i am confused, also.
I highly doubt that there is a chip that gets "burned out"

Brandon


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From: Kirk Werner
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 2:02 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - V-10 breakin-in period


>
> To all you knowledgable V-10 owners, at what point mileage-wise is that
> motor considered broken in? A friend of mine has the V10 in his '98 class
C
> motor home, and he said that the engine has a chip which burns out after a
> certain point...this chip is designed to protect the engine during
break-in,
> and after the chip burns, performance increases.
>
> Is he feeding me a bunch of bull, or is that right? I assume that if it's
> correct, that my '00 F350 V-10 would be equipped with the same chip...?
>
> Thanks
>
> Kirk
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