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97up-list-digest Thursday, November 11 1999 Volume 02 : Number 306



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Transmission Change
Re: FTE 97up - Transmission Change
FTE 97up - synthetic fluids
Re: FTE 97up - synthetic fluids
Re: FTE 97up - Transmission Change
Re: FTE 97up - synthetic fluids
FTE 97up - Transmission temp gague Was - synthetic fluids
RE: FTE 97up - Transmission temp gague Was - synthetic fluids
Re: FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods
RE: FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:39:17 -0600
From: "Allemand, Andre'"
Subject: FTE 97up - Transmission Change

I have a standard transmission. Can it be replaced with an automatic..? I
asked the guys at my dealership, they said "we don't know.." My truck is a
v-6 f-150 XL extended cab. I have installed a Gibson cat back exhaust, KN
filter, Tornado air management system and a hypertech chip. Now if I could
only get rid of the "stick" I could tow my camper with no problems..

Thanks,
Boomer
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:03:28 -0500
From: Stan Wright
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmission Change

My opinion: If your truck is a non-computer controlled 2WD then it could be
done relatively easily. Otherwise I'd look at getting a different truck.

"Allemand, Andre'" wrote:

> I have a standard transmission. Can it be replaced with an automatic..? I
> asked the guys at my dealership, they said "we don't know.." My truck is a
> v-6 f-150 XL extended cab. I have installed a Gibson cat back exhaust, KN
> filter, Tornado air management system and a hypertech chip. Now if I could
> only get rid of the "stick" I could tow my camper with no problems..
>
> Thanks,
> Boomer
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:11:08 -0600
From: RBalling distcrt18.state.ks.us
Subject: FTE 97up - synthetic fluids

1998 1504x4sc.5.4 K&N filter,Superchip,Gibson cat-back,26575R16Bridgestones
my question is where is the best place to find synthetic tranny fluid. I
tow a boat and sometimes a trailer..both weighing around 4,300lb...so I want
to help the tranny as much as possible...the 4R70W does the job..I put a
tranny temp gauge on it and it revealed some problems with my towing
habits...well worth the money. I use Mobil1 with my boat and van...but have
never used synthetics for the transmissions. Would like a local dealer or
outlet. Any advice? thanks..
also the toy:
1979Bronco 351M.MSD6a,headers,TBI
Richard in Derby,Ks
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:45:19 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - synthetic fluids

In a message dated 11/10/99 11:15:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
RBalling distcrt18.state.ks.us writes:

I am a firm believer in synthetics for everything, i have seen them save
many a transmission, especially under load conditions in racing applications.
I would use either Redline D4ATF if you can get it, or Amsoil second, and
then mobil or valvoline. I usually did a change after every race and it came
out clean and no burn smells.=, yea it can get expensive,lol.

RS

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1998 1504x4sc.5.4 K&N filter,Superchip,Gibson cat-back,26575R16Bridgestones
my question is where is the best place to find synthetic tranny fluid. I
tow a boat and sometimes a trailer..both weighing around 4,300lb...so I want
to help the tranny as much as possible...the 4R70W does the job..I put a
tranny temp gauge on it and it revealed some problems with my towing
habits...well worth the money. I use Mobil1 with my boat and van...but have
never used synthetics for the transmissions. Would like a local dealer or
outlet. Any advice? thanks..
also the toy:
1979Bronco 351M.MSD6a,headers,TBI
Richard in Derby,Ks
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:45:21 EST
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Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmission Change

In a message dated 11/10/99 10:42:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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sure you can, but it will take some work and retrofiting .you will have
probably 3000+/- before its over in it.

RS

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I have a standard transmission. Can it be replaced with an automatic..? I
asked the guys at my dealership, they said "we don't know.." My truck is a
v-6 f-150 XL extended cab. I have installed a Gibson cat back exhaust, KN
filter, Tornado air management system and a hypertech chip. Now if I could
only get rid of the "stick" I could tow my camper with no problems..

Thanks,
Boomer
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:59:55 -0500
From: roger e guilford
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - synthetic fluids

Hello:
are you sure that you have a 4R70W? I have the same equipment and I have an E40D

What happened?
Roger

RBalling distcrt18.state.ks.us wrote:

> 1998 1504x4sc.5.4 K&N filter,Superchip,Gibson cat-back,26575R16Bridgestones
> my question is where is the best place to find synthetic tranny fluid. I
> tow a boat and sometimes a trailer..both weighing around 4,300lb...so I want
> to help the tranny as much as possible...the 4R70W does the job..I put a
> tranny temp gauge on it and it revealed some problems with my towing
> habits...well worth the money. I use Mobil1 with my boat and van...but have
> never used synthetics for the transmissions. Would like a local dealer or
> outlet. Any advice? thanks..
> also the toy:
> 1979Bronco 351M.MSD6a,headers,TBI
> Richard in Derby,Ks
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:29:19 -0500
From: "Larry Hackler"
Subject: FTE 97up - Transmission temp gague Was - synthetic fluids

How did you set up your tranny temp gauge? What gauge, range of
temps, temp of sump or in one of the lines?

What was the problem with your towing habits, and who did the problems
show on the temp gauge?

Larry
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Date: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 11:12 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - synthetic fluids


>1998 1504x4sc.5.4 K&N filter,Superchip,Gibson
cat-back,26575R16Bridgestones
>my question is where is the best place to find synthetic tranny
fluid. I
>tow a boat and sometimes a trailer..both weighing around 4,300lb...so
I want
>to help the tranny as much as possible...the 4R70W does the job..I
put a
>tranny temp gauge on it and it revealed some problems with my towing
>habits...well worth the money. I use Mobil1 with my boat and
van...but have
>never used synthetics for the transmissions. Would like a local
dealer or
>outlet. Any advice? thanks..
>also the toy:
>1979Bronco 351M.MSD6a,headers,TBI
>Richard in Derby,Ks
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:02:03 -0800
From: "Jeff Schapker"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Transmission temp gague Was - synthetic fluids

Check out this link. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dieselpage.com/giall99f.htm



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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:31:18 EST
From: Brrojo aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods

In a message dated 11/10/99 3:43:22 AM Pacific Standard Time,
owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:

> Bullet proof the 4R70W Tranny with Art Carr mods

Hey Joe,

I'm curious. What are your plans?

Brian
97 F150 ORP 4.6 and 4R70W
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:46:36 -0600
From: jmann living.com
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods

Brian,

Here is a post from the performance list that got me thinking about shoring
up the 4R70W. But I have much more research to do.


From: FLR150 AOL.COM
Joe,
I must have missed your earlier post on this subject. I also have the 4R70W
trans. in my 300+ HP 5.0 powered 1994 Supercab. I contacted Art Carr about
the problems with this transmission. In reality this trans. is actually an
AODE with a better 1st gear ratio. The total parts cost to make this tranny
virtually bulletproof was a little over $500 and then of course you have to
figure in the labor to install it. The rebuild kit basically contained a
stronger drum assembly with more clutches, Torrington bearings and other
internal parts, it also would be a wise idea to buy the Art Carr valve body
kit. I made the mistake of putting in the Transgo kit and I am not really
happy with it. I sold the Art Carr kit to a buddy of mine for his 4R70W and
after installation the tranny woke right up. It shifts better then my
Transgo equipped trans. and the temps stay steady, whereas mine has various
temp readings. If you want more info and part numbers, Email me off list and
I can send them to you.
Again my 5.0 is putting out over 300+ HP to the rear wheels and I have yet
to have a problem with the trans. since the rebuild using the Art Carr
parts. I compete in the Fun Ford Weekend Top Truck class, 2nd in the points
for the nation, and also race my truck regularly on the weekends. Plus I am
a Maintenance Supervisor for an apartment complex and have my truck loaded
regularly.
Hope I have helped,
Wayne Foy


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In a message dated 11/10/99 3:43:22 AM Pacific Standard Time,
owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:

> Bullet proof the 4R70W Tranny with Art Carr mods....


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