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97up-list-digest Wednesday, November 10 1999 Volume 02 : Number 305



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Re:transmission troubles
FTE 97up - RE: Musty Odor in Vents
FTE 97up - Transmission Problems
FTE 97up - E
FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods
FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods
FTE 97up - Piston Slap??
Re: FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods
Re: FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods

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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 07:06:59 -0600
From: Lee Haefele
Subject: FTE 97up - Re:transmission troubles

As this was explained to me, my dad's Mercury Grand Marc had the same
problem. He only got half a sentence out of his mouth at the dealer and
the dealer finished it "and it feels like rumble strips". Then the
dealer said "didn't change your trans fluid, as recommended, did you".
Changing the fluid fixed it, something about moisture in the fluid. He
was also warned that it might take 1000 miles to go away after, but his
was good immed.
Lee Haefele
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:07:38 -0800
From: Dennis Kennedy
Subject: FTE 97up - RE: Musty Odor in Vents

My ac also has an odor, but I don't think it's really musty. About starting
or killing your truck with the ac on, my truck only has three settings that
don't use the ac, straight vent, straight heat (air blowing at your feet),
and the off position. All other settings use the ac, which is dissapointing
to me as my Toyota just had an on/off switch for the ac which allowed me to
turn it on no matter where the air was blowing. Anyway, you may be using
your ac lots more than you think.
Dennis Kennedy
kennedy roguewave.com
'99.5 F250 PSD SC 4x4

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:41:08 EST
From: Fordman4L aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Musty Odor in Vents

Ron,
The musty odor started the first time I used my a.c. I got my truck during
the winter so I had no need to run anything other than the heat until the
spring. Oh, and I bought the '99 F-150 brand new. I'm not sure if leaving
it on caused the problem to persist or not but I really don't think it
caused
the problem to begin with in my truck. I've never been told anything
special
about starting up the truck with the a.c. on but then again I've been told
that the crack in my door and the odor in the vents are supposed to be
there.
Your guess is as good as mine.

Daniel Moore




I have always heard that it is not a good practice to start or kill the
engine in any vehicle with the a/c on. I have always made sure that the a/c
in my truck is off when turning the engine off and also starting it. And by
the way.......I have no musty smell from my vents.....I have a 1998 F150
with 20,000 miles.
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:12:45 EST
From: Cop786 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Transmission Problems

I had this same problem with my 97 F-150 4.6L auto. The dealership did a
transmission flush and replaced it with synthetic fluid. Although I was
doubtful, it really did work.
Chris Gerstner
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:29:51 -0600
From: "Jarrell, Josh"
Subject: FTE 97up - E

Hello,
I have been in this discussion group before but because my
only internet access is through the school I have to cut off every
summer. Anyway I have a question. I have a 97 5.4 triton 4x4
Lariat and I was wondering what I could do to my truck for
performance. I already just ordered 2 chamber Flowmasters. Also,
I have dual exhaust (w/14 in. long 4 in. round tips) should I take
these tips off when I put my Flowmasters on, or will they sound
alright with them on there? I also have a K&N airfilter and love it. It
does not really matter the price on these upgrades. You answers
will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Josh
Josh Jarrell Dexter Bearcat
Dexter High School Wrestling Organization
1997 Ford 4x4 F-150
5.4 Triton Lariat

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:40:38 -0600
From: jmann living.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods

Good morning Gents,

Well my 2000 5.4 Lariat 4x4 should be rolling in sometime next week. In the
mean time I've been conjuring up all kinds of performance mods to make to it
once it gets here. But the overriding question is what will void a warranty
and what wont?

Here are a few mods I was thinking about:
K&N filter
Power pulleys
Electric cooling fans
Synthetic oils
Low Temp thermostat.
Mass Airflow Sensor
Big Bore Throttle Body
ECM Chip
Bullet proof the 4R70W Tranny with Art Carr mods
Whipple type Supercharger

Of course the last 2 will probably void the warranty. But I've always heard
that the dealer/manufacturer has to prove that the modification caused the
failure, and that a mod by it self does not constitute a voided warranty.

Joe


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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:16:43 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods

Bottom line...talk to your dealer (the owner, if possible), show him the
list and tell him that you would like to pay his mechanics put everything on
at the dealership. He most likely will be honored and agree to warrant not
only all of your original Ford warrantee issues, but also the labor on the
aftermarket parts installation (the aftermarket company would have to honor
any aftermarket parts warrantees). Mine did. On both my Expy and my F-350
SuperDuty V-10 Pick-up.

Of course, if he says "no", tell him that you would be glad to drive down to
his competitor and pay their service department for installing everything!
Then do it.

Also, if you install some of the easier to install parts (K&N Filter,
throttle-body, etc.) Ford must still warrant everything original unless they
can prove that the aftermarket part itself and/or the installation process
used to install the aftermarket part, was faulty and directly caused the
failure. This won't happen. Don't worry about it. Get the stuff on your
truck and have fun!! (I am)

Keith


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From:
To: ;
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 11:40 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods


> Good morning Gents,
>
> Well my 2000 5.4 Lariat 4x4 should be rolling in sometime next week. In
the
> mean time I've been conjuring up all kinds of performance mods to make to
it
> once it gets here. But the overriding question is what will void a
warranty
> and what wont?
>
> Here are a few mods I was thinking about:
> K&N filter
> Power pulleys
> Electric cooling fans
> Synthetic oils
> Low Temp thermostat.
> Mass Airflow Sensor
> Big Bore Throttle Body
> ECM Chip
> Bullet proof the 4R70W Tranny with Art Carr mods
> Whipple type Supercharger
>
> Of course the last 2 will probably void the warranty. But I've always
heard
> that the dealer/manufacturer has to prove that the modification caused the
> failure, and that a mod by it self does not constitute a voided warranty.
>
> Joe
>
>
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 10:56:15 PST
From: "Scott Simpson"
Subject: FTE 97up - Piston Slap??

I own a ‘99 F-250, 5.4, but am not familiar with the term ‘piston slap’
that’s been under discussion for a while now. The noise I hear, only on a
‘cold’ start, is what I take to be ‘valve-train’ noise which disappears
when oil-pressure builds sufficiently (10-20 sec.). It is more noticeable
upon acceleration. Once past startup it is a smooth runner.

Perhaps someone could clarify this for me.

Thanx

Scott

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:46:55 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods

In a message dated 11/9/99 1:20:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net writes:

most are covered under SEMA, if you get some resistance from a dealer on a
issue look them up and give them a call , i beleive they are at sema.org .

RS


Date: 11/9/99 1:20:22 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net (Keith Veren)
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Bottom line...talk to your dealer (the owner, if possible), show him the
list and tell him that you would like to pay his mechanics put everything on
at the dealership. He most likely will be honored and agree to warrant not
only all of your original Ford warrantee issues, but also the labor on the
aftermarket parts installation (the aftermarket company would have to honor
any aftermarket parts warrantees). Mine did. On both my Expy and my F-350
SuperDuty V-10 Pick-up.

Of course, if he says "no", tell him that you would be glad to drive down to
his competitor and pay their service department for installing everything!
Then do it.

Also, if you install some of the easier to install parts (K&N Filter,
throttle-body, etc.) Ford must still warrant everything original unless they
can prove that the aftermarket part itself and/or the installation process
used to install the aftermarket part, was faulty and directly caused the
failure. This won't happen. Don't worry about it. Get the stuff on your
truck and have fun!! (I am)

Keith


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From:
To: ;
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 11:40 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods


> Good morning Gents,
>
> Well my 2000 5.4 Lariat 4x4 should be rolling in sometime next week. In
the
> mean time I've been conjuring up all kinds of performance mods to make to
it
> once it gets here. But the overriding question is what will void a
warranty
> and what wont?
>
> Here are a few mods I was thinking about:
> K&N filter
> Power pulleys
> Electric cooling fans
> Synthetic oils
> Low Temp thermostat.
> Mass Airflow Sensor
> Big Bore Throttle Body
> ECM Chip
> Bullet proof the 4R70W Tranny with Art Carr mods
> Whipple type Supercharger
>
> Of course the last 2 will probably void the warranty. But I've always
heard
> that the dealer/manufacturer has to prove that the modification caused the
> failure, and that a mod by it self does not constitute a voided warranty.
>
> Joe
>
>
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:20:18 -0800
From: Dave Santo
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Warranties and Perf. Mods

>In a message dated 11/9/99 1:20:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net writes:
>
>most are covered under SEMA, if you get some resistance from a dealer on a
>issue look them up and give them a call , i beleive they are at sema.org .....

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