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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Supercharged V-10???
RE: FTE 97up - Supercharged V-10???
FTE 97up - Auto Lamp
FTE 97up - The Crack!!!! Fixed!
Re: FTE 97up - Supercharged V-10???
Re: FTE 97up - Alarms (was Trucks Gone!)
Re: FTE 97up - Alarms
FTE 97up - Fwd: Truckless in Seattle
Re: FTE 97up - Supercharged V-10???
FTE 97up - Antitheft solutions
Re: FTE 97up - Antitheft solutions
Re: FTE 97up - Antitheft solutions
Re: FTE 97up - Antitheft solutions
Re: FTE 97up - Antitheft solutions
Re: FTE 97up - Antitheft solutions

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:45:40 EDT
From: JDavis1277 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Supercharged V-10???

Paxton is advertising a 55% HP increase for the V-10 using their
supercharger. I currently have a diesel but am planning to get a new SD
soon, and due to the VERY HIGH cost of the PSD and the relatively low cost of
the V-10, am seriously considering a switch. The icing on the cake is that
the V-10 has almost as much torque as the diesel.

It seems to me that an F-250 SD with a supercharged V-10 would be a monster
performer. I use my truck almost exclusively for towing a fiver, and don't
do a lot of that. My 90 only has 54K miles, so the better fuel economy of
the diesel is pretty much a non-issue.

So, what is the consensus? Would the Paxton supercharged V-10 be a barn
burner, or not?

The web site is at www.paxtonautomotive.com, FWIW.

Thanks,

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:36:32 -0500
From: jmann living.com
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Supercharged V-10???

Butch, take a look at Kenne Bell (Whipple type) SuperChargers

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific-audio.com/kennebell.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cybermotorsports.com/jeepeatr/why/

These blowers produce 90% of their boost at lower (1500-2000) RPMs. The
Paxton and Vortec blowers are functionally belt driven turbos and require
much higher RPMs to produce there boost

Joe
Austin, TX.

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Subject: FTE 97up - Supercharged V-10???

Paxton is advertising a 55% HP increase for the V-10 using their
supercharger. I currently have a diesel but am planning to get a new SD
soon, and due to the VERY HIGH cost of the PSD and the relatively low cost
of
the V-10, am seriously considering a switch. The icing on the cake is that
the V-10 has almost as much torque as the diesel.

It seems to me that an F-250 SD with a supercharged V-10 would be a monster
performer. I use my truck almost exclusively for towing a fiver, and don't
do a lot of that. My 90 only has 54K miles, so the better fuel economy of
the diesel is pretty much a non-issue.

So, what is the consensus? Would the Paxton supercharged V-10 be a barn
burner, or not?

The web site is at www.paxtonautomotive.com, FWIW.

Thanks,

Butch
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 06:58:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: JA Turner
Subject: FTE 97up - Auto Lamp

Does anyone know if the sensitivity of the "Auto Lamp" automatic lights
can be adjusted? The manual refers to adjusting the time delay they
will stay on, but during twilight they are blinking on and off at the
delay intervals.

Tony Turner
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Deep Wedgwood Blue 99 Lariat Supercab, 5.4L, 3.55LS, Superchip, K&N
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Date: 28 Oct 1999 20:55:12 -0700
From: "Nicholas Theyer"
Subject: FTE 97up - The Crack!!!! Fixed!

I just brought my 1998 F150 SC Lariat in to my dealer to have a few problem=
s addressed; The infamous crack on the driver's door (none on passenger),=
new steering wheel due to paint coming off, a new speaker in the third doo=
r (it blew), a squeaking sound from the front end when cold (diagnosed as s=
erpentine belt) and the piston slap issue.

Absolutely no problem getting most of these issue addressed. Just to let =
you know, they have welded the crack on the door and repainted the entire d=
oor as well as the back half of the extended cab. My concern is about gett=
ing another crack in the same spot, but was assured that the work is guaran=
teed as long as I own the truck, which is all that really concerns me!

So, I recommend if you have the crack and are under warranty, go get it fi=
xed now! Another thing, has anyone had any issues getting their 5.4L repla=
ced with piston slap?

Nicholas Theyer
Production Planner
Crown Packaging - Corrugated Division
Kelowna, British Columbia
250-712-3306
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:46:37 -0600
From: Perry Klein
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Supercharged V-10???

The main problem is they want 4 K, ( approx what a diesel runs ), for the
belt driven unit.

>Paxton is advertising a 55% HP increase for the V-10 using their
>supercharger. I currently have a diesel but am planning to get a new SD
>soon, and due to the VERY HIGH cost of the PSD and the relatively low cost of
>the V-10, am seriously considering a switch. The icing on the cake is that
>the V-10 has almost as much torque as the diesel.
>
>It seems to me that an F-250 SD with a supercharged V-10 would be a monster
>performer. I use my truck almost exclusively for towing a fiver, and don't
>do a lot of that. My 90 only has 54K miles, so the better fuel economy of
>the diesel is pretty much a non-issue.
>
>So, what is the consensus? Would the Paxton supercharged V-10 be a barn
>burner, or not?
>
>The web site is at www.paxtonautomotive.com, FWIW.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Butch
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:24:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Douglas R. Floyd"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Alarms (was Trucks Gone!)

>
> This discussion reminds me of a movie a few years back (RoboCop?). It was a
> bad movie but one of the opening scenes was of a would be car thief being
> electrocuted in the drivers seat buy a very serious anti-theft device. I'm
> not in favor of this tactic but it does make me wonder what would happen to
> auto theft rates if........
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas R. Floyd
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Alarms (was Trucks Gone!)

I like the Magnavolt system as well.

About as bad was one person who rigged a shotgun in the steering column of
his pickup when I was going to high school. I hate to be the one beta-testing
that system.
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:27:01 -0700
From: Dave Santo
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Alarms

In 1968 I owned a 1957 Ford. I installed a ignition coil attached to
copper wires shaped like multiple "S"'s snaked back and forth under
the cloth of the front seat that was turned on with a misnamed switch
under the dash AFTER I shut off the engine.

ANYONE seated in the front seat when hot-wiring or starting the car
with the key got an UPLIFTING EXPERIENCE. That also included ME one
or twice.

It was kinda-hard to reach the shut-off switch when you are stretched
out (feet pressed FIRMLY on the firewall and shoulders perched on the
TOP of the seat-back!) trying to avoid the strong shock to (or UP)
your a**!
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:26:43 +700
From: bwat wa.freei.net
Subject: FTE 97up - Fwd: Truckless in Seattle

****** Forwarded Message Follows *******
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>From: bwat wa.freei.net
>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:59:12 +700
>Sorry about the original multi-post, I had a message that it didn't
>get sent....
>
>Art's "CommandLink" System sounds pretty interesting! Has
>anybody heard of it or had experiance with it?
>
>Art, who would install ? I will contact you when I get a new truck!
>
>Thanks to everyone out there, Brent
>
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:38:26 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Supercharged V-10???

In a message dated 10/29/99 8:49:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
JDavis1277 aol.com writes:

all depends on which one they use in the kit, NOVI 2000 or SN93, it would be
a great tire burner, 2000 is a reliable unit able to produce boost down low
where truck needs it. I have had 2 of the race versions (Rx) approx 20lbs of
boost. But the street version is a good unit. I know one of the people who
previously owned Paxton and he told me about the whole devolpment of all the
units.

Ever thought about a Vortech S trim, there also very good units. I have had
about 5 or 6 different vortech's and never really had a failure due to
manufactureing, always operator errors,lol.


Kenne bell sells sc's but only people who buy them are chevy people.

RS


Date: 10/29/99 8:49:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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Paxton is advertising a 55% HP increase for the V-10 using their
supercharger. I currently have a diesel but am planning to get a new SD
soon, and due to the VERY HIGH cost of the PSD and the relatively low cost
of
the V-10, am seriously considering a switch. The icing on the cake is that
the V-10 has almost as much torque as the diesel.

It seems to me that an F-250 SD with a supercharged V-10 would be a monster
performer. I use my truck almost exclusively for towing a fiver, and don't
do a lot of that. My 90 only has 54K miles, so the better fuel economy of
the diesel is pretty much a non-issue.

So, what is the consensus? Would the Paxton supercharged V-10 be a barn
burner, or not?

The web site is at www.paxtonautomotive.com, FWIW.

Thanks,

Butch
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Date: 29 Oct 99 21:19:25 EDT
From: Andthensometoo
Subject: FTE 97up - Antitheft solutions

OK Steve #1 lets see what ya got. I have to leave my truck running while
working. That has already been established as the best way to go as oppos=
ed to
starting the motor 60 or 70 times a day. I have an extra set of keys on m=
e and
the one in the ignition is ony the truck key, not the house keys ect. to
reduce loss if the Truck were to be stolen. Now I was thinking that the o=
nly
way to prevent theft in this case would be some kind of transmission lock=
=2E
Meaning a device that only I would be able to operate. That "fake" fuse t=
hing
would be great except it's running. Anyone know how to disable or "lock" =
the
trans?

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:23:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Douglas R. Floyd"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Antitheft solutions

Steve recommended Clifford alarms which allow you to arm the alarm but leave
the car running.

www.clifford.com.

If desperate, stick a club on it.

>
> OK Steve #1 lets see what ya got. I have to leave my truck running while
> working. That has already been established as the best way to go as opposed to
> starting the motor 60 or 70 times a day. I have an extra set of keys on me and
> the one in the ignition is ony the truck key, not the house keys ect. to
> reduce loss if the Truck were to be stolen. Now I was thinking that the only
> way to prevent theft in this case would be some kind of transmission lock.
> Meaning a device that only I would be able to operate. That "fake" fuse thing
> would be great except it's running. Anyone know how to disable or "lock" the
> trans?
>
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:48:02 -0500
From: Steve #1
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Antitheft solutions

Andthensometoo wrote:

> OK Steve #1 lets see what ya got. I have to leave my truck running while
> working. That has already been established as the best way to go as opposed to
> starting the motor 60 or 70 times a day. I have an extra set of keys on me and
> the one in the ignition is ony the truck key, not the house keys ect. to
> reduce loss if the Truck were to be stolen. Now I was thinking that the only
> way to prevent theft in this case would be some kind of transmission lock.
> Meaning a device that only I would be able to operate. That "fake" fuse thing
> would be great except it's running. Anyone know how to disable or "lock" the
> trans?
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
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I have a Clifford AvantGuard III on my F150. This system has remote start
built into the unit. It also has a feature called "ShortStop". The way it works
is once you get to where you're going, you use the same command on the remote as
you use to remote start, then you remove your keys, shut the door and arm the
alarm. While in the is mode, it sets off the shock sensor, but all the other
sensors are active. If someone opens the door, or sets off the motion sensor, the
engine shuts off and the alarm sounds. If the alarm is not armed, the engine will
shut down if the break is pressed without the key on. Clifford has recently
changed there model lineup, so I don't what model you would need to look at, but
check out http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.clifford.com/indexb.html . This sounds like exactly what
you need.
You could also use a break lock. It hooks into the break lines. When you
park the vehicle, you put pressure on the break and lock the lock which is mounted
inside the vehicle. The only way the vehicle could be stolen is if the bad guy
used a tow truck with a dolly.
Any other questions? :-)

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 23:40:59 -0400
From: Jean Marc Chartier
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Antitheft solutions

Andthensometoo wrote:
>
> OK Steve #1 lets see what ya got. I have to leave my truck running while
> working. That has already been established as the best way to go as opposed to
> starting the motor 60 or 70 times a day. I have an extra set of keys on me and
> the one in the ignition is ony the truck key, not the house keys ect. to
> reduce loss if the Truck were to be stolen. Now I was thinking that the only
> way to prevent theft in this case would be some kind of transmission lock.
> Meaning a device that only I would be able to operate. That "fake" fuse thing
> would be great except it's running. Anyone know how to disable or "lock" the
> trans?
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
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Andthensometoo,

If you are running an automatic you could tap into the BOO
switch circuit with a switch to turn it off and the truck
would never shift out of park. If you want to know more let
me know. If you have a manual tranny let me know and I will
think of something.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:59:45 -0600
From: tvsjr sprynet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Antitheft solutions

I've done this on my Expedition. All you need to do is put a relay on the
output side of the brake light switch on the brake pedal. It should be
wired so that, when energized, the light is disconnected. That way, if you
have a fault in your wiring, it will still be drivable. Some vehicles, like
my Explorer, are a little different. They use a three-pin connection for
interlock and two-pin for brake light. For these, you must disconnect one
side and provide +12VDC to the other. I'll be happy to explain further if
somone needs- however, if you have no clue what I'm talking about, you may
not want to attempt it personally. Whacking up your brake wiring and then
having something fail is a distinctly bad thing ;-)

Terry


At 11:40 PM 10/29/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>Andthensometoo wrote:
>>
>> OK Steve #1 lets see what ya got. I have to leave my truck running while
>> working. That has already been established as the best way to go as
>opposed to
>> starting the motor 60 or 70 times a day. I have an extra set of keys on me
>and
>> the one in the ignition is ony the truck key, not the house keys ect. to
>> reduce loss if the Truck were to be stolen. Now I was thinking that the only
>> way to prevent theft in this case would be some kind of transmission lock.
>> Meaning a device that only I would be able to operate. That "fake" fuse
thing
>> would be great except it's running. Anyone know how to disable or "lock" the
>> trans?
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________________
>> Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
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>
>Andthensometoo,
>
> If you are running an automatic you could tap into the BOO
>switch circuit with a switch to turn it off and the truck
>would never shift out of park. If you want to know more let
>me know. If you have a manual tranny let me know and I will
>think of something.
>
>Regards
>
>Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 01:11:48 -0500
From: Steve #1
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Antitheft solutions

tvsjr sprynet.com wrote:

> I've done this on my Expedition. All you need to do is put a relay on the
> output side of the brake light switch on the brake pedal. It should be
> wired so that, when energized, the light is disconnected. That way, if you
> have a fault in your wiring, it will still be drivable. Some vehicles, like
> my Explorer, are a little different. They use a three-pin connection for
> interlock and two-pin for brake light. For these, you must disconnect one
> side and provide +12VDC to the other. I'll be happy to explain further if
> somone needs- however, if you have no clue what I'm talking about, you may....


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