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97up-list-digest Monday, October 25 1999 Volume 02 : Number 289



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info
FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info
RE: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info
Re: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info
FTE 97up - Re: Spray On Bedliners
Re: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info
FTE 97up - ADMIN: Free t-shirt and window sticker
Re: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info
Re: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info
FTE 97up - ADMIN: Web site updates
Re: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info
FTE 97up - Truck rally in Southern California

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 08:31:15 EDT
From: MFAPHOTO aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info

Thanks to everyone who answered my bedliner questions. Figured that I'd get a
couple of responses and got a dozen or so! Well, now I know about bedliners.
Contrary to most of your suggestions, I'm probably going with a drop in. Four
reasons for this. 1. The place that sprays Rhino Linings is about 35 miles
away and I'm lazy. 2. You said the price would be $350 and up. I Spent $365
on bars just yesterday and with high payments on the truck, the wife is
getting a little crazy right now! 3. I'm not going to be hauling stuff very
frequently. Shouldn't get much if any rubbing under the liner. Fingers
crossed! 4. I like having the feature of locking things in with 2X4's and
also making a second level if necessary. Will be able to do that with the
Duraliner. One other thing. Occasionally, I'll take it out and check the bed.
If necessary, I'll touch it up. So, I may be making a mistake, but ya put yer
money down and ya takes yer chances!

Keep on Truckin!
Russ
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 10:46:10 EDT
From: MFAPHOTO aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info

Thanks to everyone who answered my bedliner questions. Figured that I'd get a
couple of responses and got a dozen or so! Well, now I know about bedliners.
Contrary to most of your suggestions, I'm probably going with a drop in. Four
reasons for this. 1. The place that sprays Rhino Linings is about 35 miles
away and I'm lazy. 2. You said the price would be $350 and up. I Spent $365
on bars just yesterday and with high payments on the truck, the wife is
getting a little crazy right now! 3. I'm not going to be hauling stuff very
frequently. Shouldn't get much if any rubbing under the liner. Fingers
crossed! 4. I like having the feature of locking things in with 2X4's and
also making a second level if necessary. Will be able to do that with the
Duraliner. One other thing. Occasionally, I'll take it out and check the bed.
If necessary, I'll touch it up. So, I may be making a mistake, but ya put yer
money down and ya takes yer chances!

Keep on Truckin!
Russ
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:19:45 -0500
From: "pennhead"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info

It is my understanding that the wear under a bedliner actually comes more
from vibration while driving rather than from use. That didn't stop me from
going with the drop-in. I just made sure I got one that fit well, a RUGGD
LINER, in this case. There are mats available that isolate the drop-in from
the bed, however I've heard some say that particular product retains
moisture, and holds it against your bed. All in all, you have to make up
your own mind. Like I said in an earlier post... Anything beats nothing.

Good luck!
Penn


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Subject: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info


Thanks to everyone who answered my bedliner questions. Figured that I'd get
a
couple of responses and got a dozen or so! Well, now I know about bedliners.
Contrary to most of your suggestions, I'm probably going with a drop in.
Four
reasons for this. 1. The place that sprays Rhino Linings is about 35 miles
away and I'm lazy. 2. You said the price would be $350 and up. I Spent $365
on bars just yesterday and with high payments on the truck, the wife is
getting a little crazy right now! 3. I'm not going to be hauling stuff very
frequently. Shouldn't get much if any rubbing under the liner. Fingers
crossed! 4. I like having the feature of locking things in with 2X4's and
also making a second level if necessary. Will be able to do that with the
Duraliner. One other thing. Occasionally, I'll take it out and check the
bed.
If necessary, I'll touch it up. So, I may be making a mistake, but ya put
yer
money down and ya takes yer chances!

Keep on Truckin!
Russ
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:39:39 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info

In a message dated 10/24/99 4:16:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
pennhead bscn.com writes:


well friction or moisture they both cause havoc to painted surfaces!

RS


Date: 10/24/99 4:16:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: pennhead bscn.com (pennhead)
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It is my understanding that the wear under a bedliner actually comes more
from vibration while driving rather than from use. That didn't stop me from
going with the drop-in. I just made sure I got one that fit well, a RUGGD
LINER, in this case. There are mats available that isolate the drop-in from
the bed, however I've heard some say that particular product retains
moisture, and holds it against your bed. All in all, you have to make up
your own mind. Like I said in an earlier post... Anything beats nothing.

Good luck!
Penn
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:03:47 -0500
From: Scot Cline
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Spray On Bedliners

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 08:06:47 EDT
> From: MFAPHOTO aol.com
> Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Spray On Bedliners
>
> Thanks for the information about bedliners that some of you sent in. What
> I'd like to know now is how difficult are the spray ons to apply and how much
> of a mess do they create in the process? I have a brand new Lariat and I'm
> not eager to mess it or me up in the process. Also, I don't own a sprayer.
> Seen some that are brush on, but might they look messy after application? I
> want to keep this truck real pretty. I may be keeping it a very long time. By
> the way, I'm not going to use the bed heavily. Just an occasional job now and
> then. Got the truck because we didn't need the space of an Expedition!
> Besides, the truck is much more fun!
>
> Russ
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> ------------------------------

A friend just did his Dodge truck a few weeks ago with Herculiner, a roll on liner.
It costs $100, and looks every bit as good as the $350-400 jobs. We compared
them side by side and the only difference was the spray-in seemed a little spongier.

It takes about a 6-8 hrs to do, you have to rough sand the bed (just scratch the
paint for the coating to stick to), put on a coat and let dry, and then do a second
coat. His only problem, he left the masking tape on a little to long after he got
talking on the phone. It stuck in the coating a little in a couple of places, but
the
instructions did say to remove immediately after finishing. All-in-all, I couldn't
see where the spray in is worth $250-300 more.



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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 18:20:15 EDT
From: TRITON46L aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info

Here's my opinion.
Sprayed on bedliners may increase the value of your truck, but only the
amount put into it.
Drop in bedliners are great. If you wax the bed before installing the
liner there should be no problems. Maybe after a long time, there might be
some rubbing. As far as durability, I believe the drop in liners are
stronger and will look nicer for a longer period. The reason I think this is
because the plastic in the drop ins are thicker. It can take the impact of
something hitting it. I know people that have spray on liners and dropped a
heavy piece of equipment into the bed. Now there is an indentation in his
bed. The would not happen as easily if he had a drop in.

For looks, spay on are great, if you want to spend the $. For durability and
for saving some $, go for the drop in

bill
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 18:34:06 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Free t-shirt and window sticker

The web site is getting stale so we've decided to give
a free t-shirt and window sticker to anyone who submits
an item we publish on the web site. Anyone who has
submitted anything since the 1st of October will also
get a t-shirt and sticker. Details can be found at:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/free.html

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:53:29 -0400
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info

Or, for those that have money to freely spend, get BOTH! First, get the
spray-in liner, then install the drop-in liner. The spray-in liner under
the drop-in liner will protect your truck's bed from ever rotting away due
to the drop-in liner rubbing the paint off!

Keith


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Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info


> Here's my opinion.
> Sprayed on bedliners may increase the value of your truck, but only
the
> amount put into it.
> Drop in bedliners are great. If you wax the bed before installing the
> liner there should be no problems. Maybe after a long time, there might
be
> some rubbing. As far as durability, I believe the drop in liners are
> stronger and will look nicer for a longer period. The reason I think this
is
> because the plastic in the drop ins are thicker. It can take the impact
of
> something hitting it. I know people that have spray on liners and dropped
a
> heavy piece of equipment into the bed. Now there is an indentation in his
> bed. The would not happen as easily if he had a drop in.
>
> For looks, spay on are great, if you want to spend the $. For durability
and
> for saving some $, go for the drop in
>
> bill
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:56:24 -0400
From: Jean Marc Chartier
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info

TRITON46L aol.com wrote:
>
> Here's my opinion.
> Sprayed on bedliners may increase the value of your truck, but only the
> amount put into it.
> Drop in bedliners are great. If you wax the bed before installing the
> liner there should be no problems. Maybe after a long time, there might be
> some rubbing. As far as durability, I believe the drop in liners are
> stronger and will look nicer for a longer period. The reason I think this is
> because the plastic in the drop ins are thicker. It can take the impact of
> something hitting it. I know people that have spray on liners and dropped a
> heavy piece of equipment into the bed. Now there is an indentation in his
> bed. The would not happen as easily if he had a drop in.
>
> For looks, spay on are great, if you want to spend the $. For durability and
> for saving some $, go for the drop in
>
> bill
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Bill,

I had a drop in (Penda Liner) on my 97 and now my 00 has a
Duraliner. The bottom of these liners is corrugated, like a
ripple chip. This absorbs the impact and spares the metal
from damage. I stupidly put a high lift jack in my box in
97 and secured it with bungie cords. My first jump off road
and the jack did a number on the bed. The liner took most
of the jolt and bounced back into shape but the bed got
dented. You couldn't see the damage on the liner but under
it, it was dented. If I would have had a spray in the
damage would have been worse. I would have to have had the
bed pounded back into shape and probably re-sprayed. To
each his own, I go with drop ins.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:38:07 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Web site updates

Ford Truck Enthusiasts web site updates:

- -Nearly every pictorial section has had at least one truck added
to it.
- -Four articles added to tech articles section.
- -Links section updated.
- -Forum section updated.

Enjoy!

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:04:28 -0700
From: Ralph Lindberg
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Thanks for bedliner info

>
> I had a drop in (Penda Liner) on my 97 and now my 00 has a
>Duraliner. The bottom of these liners is corrugated, like a
>ripple chip. This absorbs the impact and spares the metal
>from damage. I stupidly put a high lift jack in my box in
>97 and secured it with bungie cords. My first jump off road
>and the jack did a number on the bed. The liner took most
>of the jolt and bounced back into shape but the bed got
>dented. You couldn't see the damage on the liner but under
>it, it was dented. If I would have had a spray in the
>damage would have been worse. I would have to have had the
>bed pounded back into shape and probably re-sprayed. To
>each his own, I go with drop ins.

Well, if you had the spray-on the liner would have followed the curve the
bed, both on the goes on and on the comes back. I've seen photo's of a bed
after a tail-end wreck. The bed was bent over 18 inchs, and the liner was
still attached.

Ralph Lindberg ICQ 5988954
RV and Camping FAQ
Just because MS-Window's holds 90% of the market doesn't mean it's
superior. Remember 90% of all animals are insects.



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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:21:39 -0700
From: Nicolas Mosaquites III
Subject: FTE 97up - Truck rally in Southern California

Hi!
To all fellow list members in the greater Los Angeles area.I have
been reading about the Texas rally, from the looks of the pictures and
Sean's write up it seems like everyone had a lot's of fun, the pictures
definitely showed some beautiful trucks.
I'm probably going to get myself over my head as usual but how about
a get together in good old Southern California what do you say Chris
from L.A. and Darin from San Diego and anybody else from California, im
in Montclair, about 30 miles from L.A. I know there has to be at least
10 members from the L.A. area on the list lets pull together and get the
rally going .I don't want to tackle this alone but I'm sure willing to
get it started.Im looking forward to hearing from all the California
members.


Thanks

Nick Mosaquites
1998 F150 5.4 triton Cruiser, White lowered 4/5 17 inch Boyd's Evolution
with 275/60/17 BFG's
in the back and 255/60/17 in the front snug top tonneau top 3 inch cad....


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