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In this issue:

Re: FW: FTE 97up - F-150 99L/44E [4R100 tranny] The party's over...
FTE 97up - HELP!
FTE 97up - 5-speed Problem
FTE 97up - 99 F250 SD - RPMs
FTE 97up - tires today!
Re: FTE 97up - tires today!
FTE 97up - 97 Expedition wandering also wants to know
FTE 97up - High end audio installation?
Re: FTE 97up - tires today!
Re: FTE 97up - tires today!
Re: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?
Re: FTE 97up - 5-speed Problem
RE: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?
Re: FTE 97up - tires today!
Re: FTE 97up - 5-speed Problem
Re: FTE 97up - tires today!
Re: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?
RE: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?
Re: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:28:49 -0400
From: Dean Baruffi
Subject: Re: FW: FTE 97up - F-150 99L/44E [4R100 tranny] The party's over...

That's unfortunate. I don't think you should need a California address to
get California emissions (that's what order Code 93N is for). I went over
my order of a 2000 F-150 4x2 Lariat, 5.4L SC with my dealer and they put in
the 422 code with my order. I did not have to give them a Cal address. I
just said, the truck I want must have the 44E tranny and to get this I need
the 422 added to my order. They put it in and I signed the order last
Saturday.

The big question is: will Ford deliver it to Connecticut where my dealer is?

I noticed the 44U tranny changes to the 44E on the order when Cal emissions
(422) is added.

Sorry to hear about your misfortune Joe. It sounds like you dealer doesn't
want to work with you.

- -Dean





At 11:46 AM 10/20/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Ok Guys,
>
>The fight for the 4R100 (code 44E) transmission on my 2000 F150 5.4 SC
>Flareside Lariat 4x4 is over, and I lost. My last ditch effort was to try
>to order the CA Emissions pkg., code 422, which would give me the stronger
>tranny. But that didn't work either. I even spoke with a "supervisor" at
>Ford Customer Service and told him I would be relocated to CA in 2 two 3
>months and he told me that it could be done and even recommended I do it so
>that I wouldn't have to pay the CA emissions penalty. But the dealer here in
>Austin, Covert Ford, still came back and said I needed to have a permanent
>address in CA.
>
>I give! I'll just live with the 4R70W tranny and just hope it survives the
>Kenne Bell Supercharger (an extra 80 hp).
>
>Thanks for your earlier help and advise guys!!
>
>Joe
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dean Baruffi [mailto:dean.baruffi yale.edu]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 6:51 AM
>To: jmann living.com
>Subject: RE: FTE 97up - F-150 99L/44E
>
>Joe,
>
>Take a look at this website. Look at the 2000 F-150 info. On page 10 of the
>2000f150.pdf file is says that with order code 93N, Vehicles MUST be
>registered in California or Northeast States. Since you live in Texas, you
>might want to ask your dealer about his? In the same paragraph, it says that
>this is for vehicles not being delivered to California or Northeast States.
>Since my vehicle will be delivered to a Northeast State, I hope I don't have
>a problem. It's already on my order!
>
>-Dean
>
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.downsford.com/orderguide.htm
>
>
>
> At 03:32 PM 10/11/99 -0500, you
>wrote:
>>I'm trying to find out what is included (what they do to the truck) with
>the
>>CA emissions.
>>
>>I'm going to call a couple of CA dealers tonight.
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dean Baruffi [mailto:dean.baruffi yale.edu]
>
>>Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 3:04 PM
>>To: jmann living.com
>>Subject: RE: FTE 97up - F-150 99L/44E
>>
>>I should have checked my mail first. I saw your change-in-telephone number
>>message as I sent you this message.
>>
>>Thanks. I just called them and they need my order number which I don't
>>have. If I have to get Cal emissions to get the 44E, I will.
>>
>>-Dean
>>
>>
>>At 02:55 PM 10/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Hey Dean, sorry about that. I posted a correction about six messages ago.
>>>Here's a copy of it. I have NO idea where I got that number.
>>>
>>>Joe
>>>
>>>WOW, WRONG NUMBER!!!
>>>
>>>I gave you guys the wrong number to Ford Customer Service, it should be
>>>800-392-3673.
>>>
>>>Oops...
>>>
>>>Joe
>>>
>>>PS: My dealer just called me and said he can't order the truck with the
>44E
>>>unless it's with the CA. emissions package!! I'll call Ford again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Dean Baruffi [mailto:dean.baruffi yale.edu]
>
>>>Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 2:37 PM
>>>To: jmann living.com
>>>Subject: RE: FTE 97up - F-150 99L/44E
>>>
>>>I tried the number you gave below but did not get Ford. I got an AC
>>>company.
>>>
>>>Can you please check the number?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Dean Baruffi
>>>
>>>At 10:14 AM 10/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>Call Ford Customer Service at 800-426-1283 and ask them about it. I spoke
>>>>with them last week and they confirmed that it was possible to order the
>>>44E
>>>>on my 2000 F-150 Lariat SC Flareside 4x4. But I don't know about 4x2s.
>>>>
>>>>Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Dean Baruffi [mailto:dean.baruffi yale.edu]
>
>>>>Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 6:36 AM
>>>>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>>>>Subject: FTE 97up - F-150 99L/44E
>>>>
>>>>After several attemps to get the 44E transmission with my 2000 F-150
>5.4L,
>>>>the dealer and I came up unsuccessful.
>>>>
>>>>First we tried it with an XLT SC, Sport, 2WD. But the factory said you
>>>>cannot have the 44E with the 17" wheels. Then I tried a Lariat SC, 2WD
>>but
>>>>the Lariat comes with 17" wheels as well. The order gets rejected at the
>>>>factory because of the 17" wheels (at least that's what the dealer says.)
>>>>
>>>>Any truth to this? I would like to go back and tell my dealer he is doing
>>>>something wrong.
>>>>
>>>>I really don't want the 44U tranny on my order.
>>>>
>>>>-Dean Baruffi
>>>>
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:23:29 -0500
From: DJ Viney
Subject: FTE 97up - HELP!

Is anyone pulling a 5th wheel with a '97 Powerstroke Diesel short bed?
Truck has a 4.73 rear end..rated at 16,000 lbs. Please give detail.
Thanx! Dick djviney dialnet.net
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:24:39 -0500
From: Schmidt
Subject: FTE 97up - 5-speed Problem

Hi all,

I'm looking for feedback on an issue with 4.2 V6/5-speed equipped F150's.
Not of the magnitude of The Door Crack, but I know several people besides
myself that are having problems with 2nd gear in these trucks. Specifically,
when this powerhouse (wink) is under hard acceleration, 2nd gear is either
"locked-out" or grinds. The situation seems to get worse over time. I even
know of a guy who has to hold the gearshifter in 2nd gear with his hand or
it "jumps out".

Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a TSB on this issue? A friend
told me it's because the 4.2 F150 has a M#zda transmission.

Thanks in advance,
ms


===========================================
Mike Schmidt michael.schmidt wcom.com
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:29:50 -0400
From: "Werner, C. A. (Craig)"
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 F250 SD - RPMs

Question to you all. I have a 99 F250 SD, with the 5.4l engine
and 4:10 rear end. I pull a 30ft fifth wheel, and usually tow
with OD locked out. At 65 MPH I am running around 3000 rpms.
Is it ok to run this truck at this speed consistently? , or am
I harming the trans. by doing this? Any input is appreciated.
Thanks. CW.
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:30:14 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - tires today!

received my 285/75/ 16 from AZ , BFG mud terrains today, plan on putting
them on in the morning, will update tommorrow on fit and ride on the F250 SD
PSD 4x4. I got these because i got tired of the truck sinking down so quick
with firestones.

BTW : FOR SALE 4-265/ 75/ 16s firestone steeltex atx's, 20K miles, good
wear, plenty of tread, rotated and balanced often. $200.+ split the shipping
(ground)

RS

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:46:39 -0500
From: Stan Wright
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - tires today!

How about a picture or two of the new tires on the truck?

RSnovi aol.com wrote:

> received my 285/75/ 16 from AZ , BFG mud terrains today, plan on putting
> them on in the morning, will update tommorrow on fit and ride on the F250 SD
> PSD 4x4. I got these because i got tired of the truck sinking down so quick
> with firestones.
>
> BTW : FOR SALE 4-265/ 75/ 16s firestone steeltex atx's, 20K miles, good
> wear, plenty of tread, rotated and balanced often. $200.+ split the shipping
> (ground)
>
> RS
>
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:54:47 EDT
From: SchmidP aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - 97 Expedition wandering also wants to know

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ON Wed, 20 Oct 1999 Erik wrote

> From: "Erik Veit"
> Subject: FTE 97up - '97 Expedition wandering

> Hello,
> When the '97 Expedition came out, it had a tendency to wander at
> highway speeds, which required constant correction from the driver.
> I have one of those. By the '98 MY, this problem was fixed.
> Does anyone know what Ford did to fix the problem?
> I would like to retrofit mine if possible.
> Thanks,
> Erik

I hope that someone responds to this one.

I have a 97 F150 SC ORP (same chassis and running gear)
and it has done the same thing from the beginning.
The dealer, as always, said, "That's the way they all are".
My son in law had a 97 Expedition and he was told the same thing.

It is just plain "NOT nice to drive", not to mention tiring.
In Dec. 96 I drove from northern Ohio to Florida in the F150,
By Georgia my wrists hurt. The next year, I loaded the F150
in my Wells Cargo Trailer, and pulled it down using my
94, 3500 Dually Chevy. (Yes I don't mind spelling it)
By Georgia I was not tired, felt great.

I love the looks of my F150 and the looks it gets
but it needs something done with the steering,
the 4.6 is a bummer too.

Regards

Paul S.
Just sittin here waiten for the doors get ready to crack.


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Date: 21 Oct 1999 20:30:58 -0700
From: "Nicholas Theyer"
Subject: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?

Does any have any experience with a high end audio install in the F-150 La=
riat Extended Cab? I am looking into what I should install and thought I m=
ight ask if anyone has had any particular tidbits of info. I'm looking int=
o a multimedia type system with and LCD screen, GPS navigation hookup, CD -=
subs under the rear seat, etc. I will also install a CB unit, car kit for=
my Startac etc.

I've been following the thread on the CB install, but haven't yet really l=
earned where to install the unit. I have a split bench and think I'll have=
to get a tray installed on the transmission tunnel to mount CB, phone etc.

Any experience or better ideas of where to mount or not mount?

Thanks,


Nicholas Theyer
Production Planner
Crown Packaging Kelowna
Corrugated Division
2092 Enterprise Way, Kelowna, BC V1Y 6H7
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:56:27 -0700
From: "Steve J. Hodson"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - tires today!

Please do post the results as you put miles on them. If you have a minute
after the new tires go on place a straight edge across the top of one tire
and measure the gap at each edge of the tire tread. I'm curious to see how
it compares to the 265 tire on the same rim. I'm afraid that the center of
the tread may 'bulge' slightly more on the wider tire and cause earlier wear
of the center the tread. I'm very anxious to get a set of 285's or 295's
on mine but I've been waiting for an adventureous soul like you to try it
first!
Good luck!
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From: RSnovi aol.com
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 9:31 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - tires today!


>received my 285/75/ 16 from AZ , BFG mud terrains today, plan on putting
>them on in the morning, will update tommorrow on fit and ride on the F250
SD
>PSD 4x4. I got these because i got tired of the truck sinking down so
quick
>with firestones.
>
>BTW : FOR SALE 4-265/ 75/ 16s firestone steeltex atx's, 20K miles, good
>wear, plenty of tread, rotated and balanced often. $200.+ split the
shipping
>(ground)
>
>RS
>
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:58:03 -0700
From: "Steve J. Hodson"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - tires today!

Yea! That too. My 99 F350cc 4X4 has the tall blocks in the rear and I can
fit a small car between the tire and the wheel opening. I hope the 285's
fill this space up a little more.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Stan Wright
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - tires today!


>How about a picture or two of the new tires on the truck?
>
>RSnovi aol.com wrote:
>
>> received my 285/75/ 16 from AZ , BFG mud terrains today, plan on putting
>> them on in the morning, will update tommorrow on fit and ride on the F250
SD
>> PSD 4x4. I got these because i got tired of the truck sinking down so
quick
>> with firestones.
>>
>> BTW : FOR SALE 4-265/ 75/ 16s firestone steeltex atx's, 20K miles, good
>> wear, plenty of tread, rotated and balanced often. $200.+ split the
shipping
>> (ground)
>>
>> RS
>>
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:08:38 -0500
From: Stan Wright
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?

I did some stereo work to my F250 Super Duty. I replaced the factory radio with a Sony radio/cassette/CD controller and a Sony equalizer. I ordered the components from Crutchfield (www.crutchfield.com). Their free installation kits are very nice. I put Pioneer 3-ways in the front doors. Behind the back seat I put a Bass Bazooka, 4-channel amplifier, and a Sony CD changer.

You might check out Galls (www.galls.com), a police/fire supply place, for ways to mount your CB, etc.

Nicholas Theyer wrote:

> Does any have any experience with a high end audio install in the F-150 Lariat Extended Cab? I am looking into what I should install and thought I might ask if anyone has had any particular tidbits of info. I'm looking into a multimedia type system with and LCD screen, GPS navigation hookup, CD - subs under the rear seat, etc. I will also install a CB unit, car kit for my Startac etc.
>
> I've been following the thread on the CB install, but haven't yet really learned where to install the unit. I have a split bench and think I'll have to get a tray installed on the transmission tunnel to mount CB, phone etc.
>
> Any experience or better ideas of where to mount or not mount?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nicholas Theyer
> Production Planner
> Crown Packaging Kelowna
> Corrugated Division
> 2092 Enterprise Way, Kelowna, BC V1Y 6H7
> (250) 712-3306
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:27:19 -0400
From: Jean Marc Chartier
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 5-speed Problem

Schmidt wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking for feedback on an issue with 4.2 V6/5-speed equipped F150's.
> Not of the magnitude of The Door Crack, but I know several people besides
> myself that are having problems with 2nd gear in these trucks. Specifically,
> when this powerhouse (wink) is under hard acceleration, 2nd gear is either
> "locked-out" or grinds. The situation seems to get worse over time. I even
> know of a guy who has to hold the gearshifter in 2nd gear with his hand or
> it "jumps out".
>
> Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a TSB on this issue? A friend
> told me it's because the 4.2 F150 has a M#zda transmission.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> ms
>
> ===========================================
> Mike Schmidt michael.schmidt wcom.com
> ===========================================
>

Mike,

All the 97+ F-150/250s have the Mazda M5OD tranny. It is a
POS. My 97 4.6L was a classic example of that. I
complained since the first week I had the truck about it
grinding and I was told that it was normal. I had one
tranny replaced because of excessive whining in 3rd, 4th and
5th gear. The second one was just as bad. Synthetic gear
oil helped a little. I now have a 00 with the 4.6L and the
5 speed and it seems to be just as bad. Ford could do a
better job but it would just cost too much, so we are stuck
with the Mazda POS.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:41:57 -0500
From: jmann living.com
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?

For you truck stereo gods out there, that makes two of us. I am also very
interested in adding stereo equipment to my 2000 150 Lariat SC. But in my
case I would like to add speakers, and possibly an amp, to the existing
premium head unit. I'm sort of stuck on the factory unit because I like the
speed controlled volume, and I've yet to see a after-market head unit
implement this technology.

Thanks,

Joe
Austin, TX

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From: Nicholas Theyer [mailto:ntheyer cpk.crownpackaging.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 10:31 PM
To: Ford Truck List
Subject: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?


Does any have any experience with a high end audio install in the
F-150 Lariat Extended Cab? I am looking into what I should install and
thought I might ask if anyone has had any particular tidbits of info. I'm
looking into a multimedia type system with and LCD screen, GPS navigation
hookup, CD - subs under the rear seat, etc. I will also install a CB unit,
car kit for my Startac etc.

I've been following the thread on the CB install, but haven't yet
really learned where to install the unit. I have a split bench and think
I'll have to get a tray installed on the transmission tunnel to mount CB,
phone etc.

Any experience or better ideas of where to mount or not mount?

Thanks,


Nicholas Theyer
Production Planner
Crown Packaging Kelowna
Corrugated Division
2092 Enterprise Way, Kelowna, BC V1Y 6H7
(250) 712-3306


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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:42:14 -0400
From: "Matthew Powell"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - tires today!

speaking of tires, has anyone put 235/75 15's on the small 99 ranger? if so,
what kind and how good are they?
Matthew Powell - K8KLP
matt mpna.com
GE Aircraft Engines Client Support Center
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From: Steve J. Hodson
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 19:58
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - tires today!


> Yea! That too. My 99 F350cc 4X4 has the tall blocks in the rear and I
can
> fit a small car between the tire and the wheel opening. I hope the 285's
> fill this space up a little more.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Wright
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 9:47 AM
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - tires today!
>
>
> >How about a picture or two of the new tires on the truck?
> >
> >RSnovi aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> received my 285/75/ 16 from AZ , BFG mud terrains today, plan on
putting
> >> them on in the morning, will update tommorrow on fit and ride on the
F250
> SD
> >> PSD 4x4. I got these because i got tired of the truck sinking down so
> quick
> >> with firestones.
> >>
> >> BTW : FOR SALE 4-265/ 75/ 16s firestone steeltex atx's, 20K miles,
good
> >> wear, plenty of tread, rotated and balanced often. $200.+ split the
> shipping
> >> (ground)
> >>
> >> RS
> >>
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:00:23 -0300
From: Mark MacDonald
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 5-speed Problem

My 98 F150 doesnt seem to have the popping out of gear problem, but it can
be hard to get into second if you are trying to shift too quickly.. Almost
like the synchronizer (sp?) isnt stopping the transmission fast enough when
you clutch... But other than that, it seems fine, no weird noises... Well,
ok, it really makes loud noises when you miss second gear doing a power
shift, and the tach hits about 5500rpm :)



At 05:27 PM 10/21/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm looking for feedback on an issue with 4.2 V6/5-speed equipped F150's.
>> Not of the magnitude of The Door Crack, but I know several people besides
>> myself that are having problems with 2nd gear in these trucks. Specifically,
>> when this powerhouse (wink) is under hard acceleration, 2nd gear is either
>> "locked-out" or grinds. The situation seems to get worse over time. I even
>> know of a guy who has to hold the gearshifter in 2nd gear with his hand or
>> it "jumps out".
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a TSB on this issue? A friend
>> told me it's because the 4.2 F150 has a M#zda transmission.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:27:44 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - tires today!

In a message dated 10/21/99 12:50:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
swright hpcisp.com writes:


was rome built in a day? LOL! j/k. It was the best priceing i could find
locally or nationally(desertrat.com).
, i will get some pics this weekend probably of the truck, might be on the
road will have some reaction to them right away.
when i spoke about a 295/75, everyone that i spoke to seemed to be like,
eeeee, i don't think that would be a good idea....too much tire for 7 in rim.

RS


Date: 10/21/99 12:50:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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How about a picture or two of the new tires on the truck?

RSnovi aol.com wrote:

> received my 285/75/ 16 from AZ , BFG mud terrains today, plan on putting
> them on in the morning, will update tommorrow on fit and ride on the F250
SD
> PSD 4x4. I got these because i got tired of the truck sinking down so
quick
> with firestones.
>
> BTW : FOR SALE 4-265/ 75/ 16s firestone steeltex atx's, 20K miles, good
> wear, plenty of tread, rotated and balanced often. $200.+ split the
shipping
> (ground)
>
> RS
>
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:45:05 -0400
From: "Freddy Favela"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?

I tried the speakers for the rear seat on the f150 but I did not think that
they produced enough bass for my taste. So I am tring to make a speaker
box that replaces my back seat and that hold 4 10's. good luck with your
installation!! Alpine makes the best headunits.
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From: Nicholas Theyer
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Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 4:41 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?



Does any have any experience with a high end audio install in the F-150
Lariat Extended Cab? I am looking into what I should install and thought I
might ask if anyone has had any particular tidbits of info. I'm looking
into a multimedia type system with and LCD screen, GPS navigation hookup,
CD - subs under the rear seat, etc. I will also install a CB unit, car kit
for my Startac etc.

I've been following the thread on the CB install, but haven't yet really
learned where to install the unit. I have a split bench and think I'll have
to get a tray installed on the transmission tunnel to mount CB, phone etc.

Any experience or better ideas of where to mount or not mount?

Thanks,


Nicholas Theyer
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Corrugated Division
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:19:10 -0500
From: jmann living.com
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Blaupunkt!

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I tried the speakers for the rear seat on the f150 but I did not think that
they produced enough bass for my taste. So I am tring to make a speaker
box that replaces my back seat and that hold 4 10's. good luck with your
installation!! Alpine makes the best headunits.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas Theyer
To: Ford Truck List
Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 4:41 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?



Does any have any experience with a high end audio install in the F-150
Lariat Extended Cab? I am looking into what I should install and thought I
might ask if anyone has had any particular tidbits of info. I'm looking
into a multimedia type system with and LCD screen, GPS navigation hookup,
CD - subs under the rear seat, etc. I will also install a CB unit, car kit
for my Startac etc.

I've been following the thread on the CB install, but haven't yet really
learned where to install the unit. I have a split bench and think I'll have
to get a tray installed on the transmission tunnel to mount CB, phone etc.

Any experience or better ideas of where to mount or not mount?

Thanks,


Nicholas Theyer
Production Planner
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Corrugated Division
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 23:39:12 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?

I didnt even think they still made those things, lol! i had a few of their
head units back in their hay day, but now alpine is a standard i stay with.
I have had quite a few units with little problems

RS


Blaupunkt!

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Subject: Re: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?

I tried the speakers for the rear seat on the f150 but I did not think that
they produced enough bass for my taste. So I am tring to make a speaker
box that replaces my back seat and that hold 4 10's. good luck with your
installation!! Alpine makes the best headunits.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas Theyer
To: Ford Truck List
Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 4:41 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - High end audio installation?



Does any have any experience with a high end audio install in the F-150
Lariat Extended Cab? I am looking into what I should install and thought I
might ask if anyone has had any particular tidbits of info. I'm looking
into a multimedia type system with and LCD screen, GPS navigation hookup,
CD - subs under the rear seat, etc. I will also install a CB unit, car kit
for my Startac etc.

I've been following the thread on the CB install, but haven't yet really
learned where to install the unit. I have a split bench and think I'll have
to get a tray installed on the transmission tunnel to mount CB, phone etc.

Any experience or better ideas of where to mount or not mount?

Thanks,


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Production Planner
Crown Packaging Kelowna
Corrugated Division
2092 Enterprise Way, Kelowna, BC V1Y 6H7
(250) 712-3306


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