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97up-list-digest Monday, October 11 1999 Volume 02 : Number 275



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Re: warped 460 manifolds on motorohome
FTE 97up - Car/ Driver TV on TNN
Re: FTE 97up - "Invoice" variation
FTE 97up - ADMIN: Trying to contact the following people
FTE 97up - Help
FTE 97up - SD Brake Rotors
RE: FTE 97up - 2000 F-150 Lariat Upgrade package.
FTE 97up - Used '99 Super Duty pricing
Re: FTE 97up - Used '99 Super Duty pricing
FTE 97up - Lift Blocks & Air Suspension Mods for SD's

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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:53:17 EDT
From: Cookies aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: warped 460 manifolds on motorohome

In a message dated 10/10/99 3:37:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:

>
Thanks to all who responded. Any addtl' comments/opinions/technical bulletins
would be appreciated


Randy
cookies aol.com
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:33:46 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Car/ Driver TV on TNN

Did anyone see today that they picked the GMC 2500 over the F250SD, just
because it rides good (independent susp.) and has more room in the back seat(
ooo), and you can put a few more lbs. in the bed. But yet its still 2k
more! Plus its not as scary to others when you pull up behind someone or
want to change lanes. (RRRR)
And i wonder why they didnt try and match 7.3 to 6.5, wouldn't have been a
question there.

RS
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:41:30 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - "Invoice" variation

The Internet prices don't have the FDAF allowance (Ford Dealers Advertising
Fund) or the fuel charge. These can vary between $75 and $300 depending on
vehilce and area. Also the internet is slow to catch price increases. We
just had a $30 increase last week, but it probably won't show on the
internet sites for a few more weeks.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Waldbart
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 8:04 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - "Invoice" variation


> Hello, everyone,
>
> In doing my homework and gathering information prior to an order for a
> new Ford truck, I saw agreement in the "invoice" price with the two
Internet
> sources used. Those figures were the same.
>
> When I got to the dealer, the "invoice" figure used, and obtained from
"the
> computer", was approximately $1000 over Internet figures.
>
> Heh, heh. Can anyone share some information as to how this occurs?
>
> Thanks
>
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:03:40 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Trying to contact the following people

Hi gang,

Many of you may remember when author Judy Scott was
looking for people willing to write up stories of
their Ford truck memories. I just received an email
from her requesting a favor. Following is the request....
- -Ken Payne

ToughTales author, Judy Scott, needs to hear from the following contributors but does not have current email addresses for them. If you see your name on this list, please respond to jscott bancom.net:
.RIch Yeoman
.Martin Clarke
.Karel Cromback
.Tom Lopez
.Christine Oxford
. Dr. Rico

Thanks,

Judy Scott

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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:01:08 -0500
From: DJ Viney
Subject: FTE 97up - Help

Hi...As an owner of a 97 Ford F250 short bed..I wonder what I need to
pull a 5th wheel with a GVWR 15,000 lbs. I want a powerstroke diesel.
That would be adequate..but what about the (a) bed length, and (b)
suspension. Can someone help me? I need as much detail as possible.
Thank you! Rev.Dick Viney -djviney dialnet.net
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:39:47 -0400
From: "William Suarez"
Subject: FTE 97up - SD Brake Rotors

Thought I would relay this info on SD brake rotors.

Starting at about 9,000 miles I noticed a slight wobble in the front end
when I applied brakes at highway speed. The effect was directly proportional
to speed and braking pressure. I seemed to come and go with temperature
changes as well.

I finally got a chance to get it into the dealer (when they did my fuel tank
recall) and had them check out the front brakes. Apparenly my rotors were
warped and they couldn't be turned due to "hard spots" in the rotors. I had
not heard that term before but some research tells me that hard spots are
essentially a defect in the casting/milling process of the rotors where by
there are inconsistencies in the final product's density.

Digging deeper I found out, through my dealer, that of the first 200,000
SD's built there were a batch of 11,000 "bad" rotors from the sub contractor
supplying them to Ford.

If you have a similiar problem don't be surprised to have to wait for new
rotors, mine have been on back order now for a month.

Bill Suarez
______________________________________________
William J. Suarez - Director of Technical Services
mailto:wsuarez netsilicon.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.netsilicon.com/



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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:10:27 -0500
From: jmann living.com
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 2000 F-150 Lariat Upgrade package.

Nathan, when you say "on hold until 11/1/99", does that mean it can not be
ordered until then or it wont hit the assembly line until then. And on the
sliding rear window, it that the "rear" or the rear side widows, like that
on the expedition??

Joe
Austin, TX
2000 (99L/44E) F-150 Lariat SC Fareside 4x4 on order...

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From: Scot Evanson [mailto:sevanson ipapilot.org]
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 9:04 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 2000 F-150 Lariat Upgrade package.

It would be "nice" if they could budget for lighted vanity mirrors and an
aft
and front cupholder (crew cab) that could actually hold a coffee mug or
thermo
mug. (only designed for paper soft-drink cups (front) and oversized drinks
(aft)).

SAE

Union Auto wrote:

> Ford has just announced the Lariat Upgrade package (code 63L). It
consists
> of a power sliding rear window, moulded running boards, electrochromic
> rearview mirror, and wood grain trim (trim on dash around radio and on
door
> panels). It has a MSRP of $995 an invoice of $846. It is on hold until
> 11/1/99
>
> Nathan Bernard
> Union Auto, Inc.
>
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:59:41 -0500
From: "Sven Setterdahl"
Subject: FTE 97up - Used '99 Super Duty pricing

Anyone know if there is info on used Super Duties yet? None of the =
places I've looked has info on the '99s yet. I've looked at carpoint, =
edmunds, kbb, etc.

The reason I ask is that I've seen an early F350 xlt 4x4 supercab =
powerstroke with about 26000 miles. By early, I mean it has the badge =
on the front fender instead of the door. I know a new one with the =
options I can remember stickers at about 37,000 and invioces about =
32,000. What would a fair price for a truck that is at least a year old =
and could be almost two years old be?

Thanks,

Sven

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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:52:41 -0400
From: Jean Marc Chartier
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Used '99 Super Duty pricing

Sven Setterdahl wrote:
>
> Anyone know if there is info on used Super Duties yet? None of the places I've looked has info on the '99s yet. I've looked at carpoint, edmunds, kbb, etc.
>
> The reason I ask is that I've seen an early F350 xlt 4x4 supercab powerstroke with about 26000 miles. By early, I mean it has the badge on the front fender instead of the door. I know a new one with the options I can remember stickers at about 37,000 and invioces about 32,000. What would a fair price for a truck that is at least a year old and could be almost two years old be?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sven
>
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Sven,

Talk to the loan officer of your bank. He will have an up
to date book with its value. They will not lend you more
than it is worth. Are you a member of AAA, they also have
this info.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:23:17 -0700
From: Bill Baker
Subject: FTE 97up - Lift Blocks & Air Suspension Mods for SD's

Since Ford seems to be tweaking with the lift blocks on Superdutys, has
anyone had luck getting the factory to omit them or a dealer to remove them
entirely? I want to order a 2000 4WD soon, but the lift height on the '99s
was way more than I want or need.

On a similar note, has anyone installed an aftermarket air suspension
system on their SD? I'm really tempted, either by the air shocks or even
by the complete shock & spring replacement systems. With my bad back, a
stiff suspension limits how long I can drive, even on smooth highways.
Besides, loading and unloading the bed with the tailgate jacked up to chest
height is a real pain, literally, so being able to drop the bed a few
inches when I need to would be worth the money to me.....

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