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97up-list-digest Tuesday, September 21 1999 Volume 02 : Number 254



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Aftermarket parts
FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.
Re: FTE 97up - F150 Sheetmetal Cracks
Re: FTE 97up - Chassis Lubrication-97 F150 4X4: Please help!
Re: FTE 97up - discovery
Re: FTE 97up - Ford Splash Guards (Mud Flaps)
Re: FTE 97up - discovery
FTE 97up - Flowmaster Exhaust Sounds
Re: FTE 97up - Flowmaster Exhaust Sounds
Re: FTE 97up - Lemon Law

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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:07:37 -0400
From: Alan
Subject: FTE 97up - Aftermarket parts

This might have been discussed before but. Can anyone tell ma where I
might find some choices of Fiberglass running boards, air dams, ect for
a crew cab super duty, LWB. Everywhere I look there isn't very much.

Thanks
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 04:34:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hunter
Subject: FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.

I wonder what will happen if someone contact (20 /20, troubleshooter team) or any other
TV station with the problem. I think this will bring the attention of everyone.

> calling Ford and Ford might be a little more open
> about getting it fixed
> (before the gov't steps in and makes them).
>
> Maybe a petition and photos to illustrate this
> problem across the country
> would be a good place to start. Especially people
> who have fleets of F150s-
> they would have PLENTY of evidence for the gov't. If
> one person or a group
> of a few people would collect the photos and a
> written description for each
> truck, you would have conclusive evidence. I don't
> see how Ford could NOT
> fix the trucks.

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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 04:46:13 PDT
From: "Frank Spor"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F150 Sheetmetal Cracks

Myself, after reading all of the stuff about the cracks, and then the stuff
about the torsion bars, Would be far more upset about the torsion bar
problem...

Lets face it folks, the "1997" F150 Came out in January 1996. It will
probably be replaced in the next 18 mos to two years....Ford will quietly
admit they had a problem, Fix the ones that catch them in Warranty, and Brag
about the "totally redisigned" F150 for 2002

The public will love them....26 cupholders, and a 36 disk CD changer as
standard equipment.

Fatigue cracks or stress cracks...Neither is a new thing.

Accept the fact that your vehicle "WILL NOT" last forever, and use it until
the wheels fall off. Or trade it every 2 Years...

When is the last time that you personally saw a 1977 Chevy Nova ?

My usually very jaded .02

Frank


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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:11:27 EDT
From: "Christian Bagley"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Chassis Lubrication-97 F150 4X4: Please help!

You can't lube the joints. Well, you can only lube one and some have two
fittings. I have one on my truck, it is located on the top side of the
idler arm. The squeak you are most likely hearing is comming from the
pitman arm. It is a common problem and is very annoying. The dealer will
tell you "They all do that" and "Don't worry about it. If it is still under
warranty, tell them you want it fixed because it will get worse and drive
you crazy.

Chris


>From: dlsipe webtv.net (Darin Sipe)
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>Subject: FTE 97up - Chassis Lubrication-97 F150 4X4: Please help!
>Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 19:08:28 -0400 (EDT)
>
>My 97 4X4 has developed some serious squeaks in the driver's side front
>end in the last 2 days. I went under today to take a look for anything
>obvious, and to lube the pivot points. The only obvious thing I found
>was the lack of grease fittings. There were none anywhere on the ball
>joints or steering linkage. How is one supposed to get grease into the
>joints?
>
>Darin
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:14:21 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - discovery

In a message dated 99-09-20 00:35:50 EDT, you write:


interesting, i thought they were just so someone wouldnt give you a jeep
style door. :)

btw . what size were those speakers?

thanks
RS

Date: 99-09-20 00:35:50 EDT
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I installed new speakers in the doors of my 1999 F250 Super Duty crew
cab XLT. I had to remove the red reflector on the door to get to a
screw to remove the door trim. I noticed a light socket with no bulb.
I put a bulb in and the light came on. It's part of the courtesy light
system. Same for the passenger door. I'm guessing the Lariat package
has the door lights, but the lesser packages don't. Putting a couple
bulbs in is a cheap upgrade. Thought I'd pass on my finding.

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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:39:25 -0500
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Ford Splash Guards (Mud Flaps)

Hi Perry,

Thanks Perry, always good to hear from you. And good to hear too
that the splash guards (and steps) survived in the field so honorably.

One thing I left out on the D'dge mud flaps: my friend paid $50 a pair!
So even if my set didn't last the winter here in Northern Illinois, I could
still buy another pair for $10 less than he paid for his original pair.

Did you ever install that supercharger on your V10? Another friend of
mine got the Ford '99 F-150 "Lightning", and with a superchip on top
of his stock supercharger, clocked 13.6 at the drag strip.

On that same day at the strip, a Super Duty PSD, with a superchip (vendor
unknown), ran in the low 16s!

Regards.

Perry Klein wrote:

> Mine are the 1 piece design. I'm assuming they will make it through the
> winter fine. I took my truck hunting this Aug. and in the process high
> centered it across what Southeast Alaska's Forest Service call a water bar,
> essentially they are 6' deep holes in the road. I ended up bending both my
> front flaps strait back, they were running parallel, sandwiched between the
> ground and the underside of the truck. Once I got the truck out they
> snapped right back to normal. I was impressed with how well they held
> up. The stock running boards that come with the Lariat are also quite
> impressive. I had the whole truck sitting on one. It deformed some but
> popped right back into shape after getting off the burm. Aluminum ones
> would have been toast.
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:58:22 -0500
From: Stan Wright
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - discovery

6X8's. Pioneer 3-ways. They are replacement speakers, and bolted right into
place. They sound ALOT better.

RSnovi aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 99-09-20 00:35:50 EDT, you write:
>
> interesting, i thought they were just so someone wouldnt give you a jeep
> style door. :)
>
> btw . what size were those speakers?
>
> thanks
> RS
>
> Date: 99-09-20 00:35:50 EDT
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> cab XLT. I had to remove the red reflector on the door to get to a
> screw to remove the door trim. I noticed a light socket with no bulb.
> I put a bulb in and the light came on. It's part of the courtesy light
> system. Same for the passenger door. I'm guessing the Lariat package
> has the door lights, but the lesser packages don't. Putting a couple
> bulbs in is a cheap upgrade. Thought I'd pass on my finding.
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:26:18 -0500
From: Landen Stoker
Subject: FTE 97up - Flowmaster Exhaust Sounds

I am looking into replacing my exhaust with a Flowmaster dual exhaust. After looking at Flowmaster's catalog I realized how many different series and associated sounds they have. I was wondering if
anyone has recorded what there setup sounds like. If you have done this or can do this, please send it to me along with what size engine you have. If I get several I will be glad to post them on my
page, so hopefully it can help others make a decision. Also has anyone bought a complete Flowmaster exhaust kit for a '99? If so where did you get it and what is the part number.

Thanks
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:59:37 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Flowmaster Exhaust Sounds

In a message dated 99-09-20 11:31:47 EDT, you write:


either do 3 chamber kit or go bassani kit.

RS

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I am looking into replacing my exhaust with a Flowmaster dual exhaust. After
looking at Flowmaster's catalog I realized how many different series and
associated sounds they have. I was wondering if
anyone has recorded what there setup sounds like. If you have done this or
can do this, please send it to me along with what size engine you have. If I
get several I will be glad to post them on my
page, so hopefully it can help others make a decision. Also has anyone
bought a complete Flowmaster exhaust kit for a '99? If so where did you get
it and what is the part number.

Thanks
Landen
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:47:23 -0400
From: zman
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Lemon Law

first of all check the internet, then if you can't find anything check a
LAW library at one of the colleges. ask me how I know.


joe

Freddy wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where I can get information about Lemon Law In Georgia??
>
> Thanks
>
> p.s. No problem yet with my new Ford but few problems with 98 dodge ram
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alan
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 DRW PSD Crew Cab AT
>
> > Mike,
> > Don't have the shimmy, but my truck F350 psd,drw cc is in the shop 15k
> miles
> > getting new front and rear brakes. Massive oil leak on the intake
> manifold, new
> > heater/air box (dealer mess-up) I think. Shifting is very iradic (oh man I
> need
> > school spell ck couldn't even help) and it won't do it at the dealer. Been
> a
> > ford truck man all my life but this one takes the cake. Lemon law in Ohio
> next
> > set of brakes it's theirs. The ole 3 strikes your out addage.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > Michael R. Burlingham wrote:
> >
> > > Here is a list of the problems with my truck with 28,000 miles. If
> anyone
> > > has a clue let me know.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > 1. Shimmy at high speed. Comes and goes. At about 80 mph it can get very
> > > strong. The tires and wheels have been balanced so many times they are
> all
> > > barked up. All of this hasn't changed the shimmy. I saw a Super Duty
> with a
> > > steering stabilizer the other day. Maybe a fix?
> > >
> > > 2. Brake warpage. We have turned the rotors twice already. I am not
> crazy
> > > about doing it again. It pulls hard to the side at times which leaves me
> to
> > > believe one of the calipers is dragging. This is much worst when I am
> > > pulling a trailer or carrying a load and brakes have warmed up a bit.
> > >
> > > 3. Transmission hunting. I have not been happy since new with the way
> the
> > > transmission shifts.
> > > a. Multiple shifts. It jumps in and out of a gear sometimes as many as
> > > three times in very rapid succession (in one second) before it hooks up.
> > > Most often it is when I have been working it for a while such as pulling
> > > the trailer.
> > > b. It drops out of overdrive very quickly on up hills. This is true with
> or
> > > without a load. On slight grades, even in cruise, it will drop down and
> > > resist going back up once you crest the hill.
> > >
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