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97up-list-digest Saturday, September 18 1999 Volume 02 : Number 251



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Super Duty trailer plug
FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.
Re: FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.
RE: FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.
FTE 97up - Rumble?????
FTE 97up - Crew Cab
Re: FTE 97up - Crew Cab
Re: FTE 97up - Crew Cab
FTE 97up - Question on Ford Splash Guards (Mud Flaps)
FTE 97up - Ford Splash Guards (Mud Flaps)
RE: FTE 97up - Crew Cab
Re: FTE 97up - Crew Cab
FTE 97up - 5 th wheel trailer questions
FTE 97up - The crack
Re: FTE 97up - 5 th wheel trailer questions
Re: FTE 97up - 5 th wheel trailer questions
Re: FTE 97up - 5 th wheel trailer questions
Re: FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.
Re: FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:25:22 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - Super Duty trailer plug

Effective Sep 19th, Super Duty F-Series (excluding bumper delete, and
chassis cabs) with the trailer towing package will have the 7 pin connector
installed (instead of the 7 wires with out a plug that they currently have.
Also the telescoping T tow mirror is now available and the regular trailer
tow mirror is discontinued.

Nathan


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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:14:31 -0600
From: "Peter Taylor"
Subject: FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.

I had so many requests for a copy of the picture and I hate having to wait
forever to download my email, so I made a web page and threw it up on my web
site so anyone can get the pictures when they want.

You will find it at:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://arrowaranch.com/truck/crack.html

Forgive the banner adds. I get free web hosting, they get banner adds.

I'll post again when I go through the replacing the door experience.

Peter Taylor

P.S. Ken, you are welcome to use the pictures on the Enthusiasts site, or
link to them. Your choice.





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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:03:14 -0700 (MST)
From: AdamsB asu.edu
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.

Wow that is really bad. Are they all this bad? I would be raising hell. If
someone is willing to use these pictures and make a flyer, I would be willing
to put them on all f150's I see. Just to get the word out.

I am in Mesa, AZ. (borders Phoenix)

Brandon

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:49:00 -0500
From: "David Moore"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.

I've got scratches and dints in my 99 F250SD bigger than this - you can't
even hardly see the crack. As for the replacement doors - my impression is
that the repair work would be more noticeable than the original crack in the
door.

David

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Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.


Wow that is really bad. Are they all this bad? I would be raising hell.
If
someone is willing to use these pictures and make a flyer, I would be
willing
to put them on all f150's I see. Just to get the word out.

I am in Mesa, AZ. (borders Phoenix)

Brandon

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Becks2
Subject: FTE 97up - Rumble?????

Hey, i have the same thing with my truck, One day i rode in the back of my bed and look on the side and found that the mud flap cover on my dully was just loose. (Its that black plastic cover that goes around in the inside and covers the metal) after about 60 it will start flapping wich gives it that rumble sound.

Adry

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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:52:19 -0500
From:"Strukel,Mike"
Subject: FTE 97up - Superduty 60 MPH rumble????

I while back I asked if anyone else was experiencing a rumble/vibration in
the rear of their Superduty at 50 - 60 mph? Mine happens from 60 - 63
mph. If you are experiencing this problem, please reply back to me. I
took the truck into the dealer and they are blaming it on my tires (BFG Mud
Terrains) I had already swapped back to my stock tires and it is still
present.


Mike Strukel
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:28:55 -0500
From: "Tom McGuire"
Subject: FTE 97up - Crew Cab

Is Ford going to make an F150 crew cab soon? I'm looking for a pickup with
4 full doors.


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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:51:53 -0400
From: "Kenneth J. Nagy"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Crew Cab

Go to this site. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.downsford.com/orderguide.htm There is a .pdf
file that lists alot of info / specs on the truck.


Ken


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From: Tom McGuire
To:
Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 16:28
Subject: FTE 97up - Crew Cab


> Is Ford going to make an F150 crew cab soon? I'm looking for a pickup
with
> 4 full doors.
>
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:24:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hunter
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Crew Cab

I think they said 2001 should have the crew cab. I was the dealer the other day, and
they said "we will have them by Sept." now I don't know if that's true or not. But they
said (Ricart) is the biggest dealer in the world.
I guess we will have to wait and see.


> Is Ford going to make an F150 crew cab soon? I'm looking for a pickup with
> 4 full doors.

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:28:45 -0500
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: FTE 97up - Question on Ford Splash Guards (Mud Flaps)

Anyone got two piece Ford splash guards? Not two guards, but each
guard being made up of two separate pieces: a molded piece and a
flat sheet attached to the cupped, tire facing side.

I ask this because a D'dge owning friend showed me his mud flaps
on his truck, which were almost identical to mine except for the logo,
and one other important difference: the molded part with the logo had
a flat sheet of plastic attached to it to minimize ice and snow build-up.

In fact he commented that mine would probably not make it through
this upcoming winter. And when you look at how they're designed, he's
right. Their going to catch everything the tires throw at them.

So I started thinking maybe mine did come like his, only the dealership's
"prep boys" forgot to installed them?

Or maybe that's why Ford calls them splash guards? That's all they're
meant for.


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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:59:48 -0500
From: Perry Klein
Subject: FTE 97up - Ford Splash Guards (Mud Flaps)

Mine are the 1 piece design. I'm assuming they will make it through the
winter fine. I took my truck hunting this Aug. and in the process high
centered it across what Southeast Alaska's Forest Service call a water bar,
essentially they are 6' deep holes in the road. I ended up bending both my
front flaps strait back, they were running parallel, sandwiched between the
ground and the underside of the truck. Once I got the truck out they
snapped right back to normal. I was impressed with how well they held
up. The stock running boards that come with the Lariat are also quite
impressive. I had the whole truck sitting on one. It deformed some but
popped right back into shape after getting off the burm. Aluminum ones
would have been toast.

pk

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:13:16 -0500
From: "David Moore"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Crew Cab

F250. Then you get a full sized truck cab and a full sized bed and it's not
that much more.



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[mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Tom McGuire
Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 3:29 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Crew Cab


Is Ford going to make an F150 crew cab soon? I'm looking for a pickup with
4 full doors.


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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:34:17 -0700
From: "Neil Plocek"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Crew Cab

You can order one now if you'd like, but the prices are not yet available to
the dealers. The new truck can not be sold until Jan.2 2000

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:52:18 EDT
From: TRITON46L aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - 5 th wheel trailer questions

hey, i keep on seeing these fifth wheel trailers on the highways in
oklahoma. i was just wanting to know why they called it a fifth wheel. i
know what the difference in a normal trailer is in comparison, but i was
never quite sure why it was called a fifth wheel.


any help would be appreciated

thanks Bill
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 21:54:49 -0500
From: "Mike Fairleigh"
Subject: FTE 97up - The crack

Today after lunch I checked the other two '98's parked in my office
building's parking lot. One of them had the cracks on both doors, the other
only had it on the driver's door. Gee, 75% failure isn't *that* bad. (My
'98 hasn't done it yet, knock on wood.)

Mike Fairleigh
mikef sky.net
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:39:12 -0700
From: "mlester"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 5 th wheel trailer questions

The fifth wheel is the one the trailer hooks up to in the bed of the truck

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Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 5:02 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - 5 th wheel trailer questions


>hey, i keep on seeing these fifth wheel trailers on the highways in
>oklahoma. i was just wanting to know why they called it a fifth wheel. i
>know what the difference in a normal trailer is in comparison, but i was
>never quite sure why it was called a fifth wheel.
>
>
>any help would be appreciated
>
>thanks Bill
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:52:49 -0700
From: The Hepburn
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 5 th wheel trailer questions

TRITON46L aol.com wrote:
>
> hey, i keep on seeing these fifth wheel trailers on the highways in
> oklahoma. i was just wanting to know why they called it a fifth wheel. i
> know what the difference in a normal trailer is in comparison, but i was
> never quite sure why it was called a fifth wheel.
>
The name "fifth wheel" actually refers to the hitch - it sits in the
bed of the truck, and the mating surface is a round plate with a slot
cut in it for the king pin. The plate is the "fifth wheel" of the
truck - four on the ground and the fifth in the bed. Over time, the
name got associated with the trailers, hence we now own "fifth wheel"
trailers, or "travel" trailers (the conventional bumper pull guys).

Alan Hepburn


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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:55:49 EDT
From: TRITON46L aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 5 th wheel trailer questions

i know where it hooks up to. but why is it called a fifth wheel trailer?
that's what i wanna know


Bill
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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:49:03 -0400
From: "Ron,Marge,Ted"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.

I have the crack in my 98 and I agree that it so small. I never would have
even noticed it myself if it wasn't brought to my attention on this list. My
only concern is that it might get bigger with time and start to rust. I am
going to bring it to my dealer's attention next month when I take it in for
another problem and see what he says. I am hoping there is a less drastic
fix for it other than replacing the whole door. I'm afraid they either won't
get the paint to match or won't do as good a job as factory or else I will
start having trouble with the way it closes or seals after someone changes
it. In other words, I don't want to trade a small blemish for a bigger
quality problem brought on by a bad installation job.

Ron
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From: David Moore
To:
Cc:
Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 12:49 PM
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.


> I've got scratches and dints in my 99 F250SD bigger than this - you can't
> even hardly see the crack. As for the replacement doors - my impression
is
> that the repair work would be more noticeable than the original crack in
the
> door.
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of AdamsB asu.edu
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 10:03 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - The Ford F-150 Crack Page.
>
>
> Wow that is really bad. Are they all this bad? I would be raising hell.
> If
> someone is willing to use these pictures and make a flyer, I would be
> willing
> to put them on all f150's I see. Just to get the word out.
>
> I am in Mesa, AZ. (borders Phoenix)
>
> Brandon
>
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