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97up-list-digest Friday, September 17 1999 Volume 02 : Number 250



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - 98 Windstar dashboard trim question
Re: FTE 97up - Roof Leak, 97 F150 SC
Re: FTE 97up - Bug Shields?
Re: FTE 97up - Bug Shields? - corrected price!
FTE 97up - Update on Cracked Sheetmetal
RE: FTE 97up - Update on Cracked Sheetmetal - Photo request
Re: FTE 97up - Update on Cracked Sheetmetal
RE: FTE 97up - Update on Cracked Sheetmetal - Photo request
RE: FTE 97up - Update on Cracked Sheetmetal - Photo request
Re: FTE 97up - Update on Cracked Sheetmetal - Photo request

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:50:35 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 98 Windstar dashboard trim question

I'm not sure witch plate your talking about but it could be for trucks that
have Fog lights or the traction control slot. If you don't get these
options, they put a plug where the switches would be.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Scott
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 10:08 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - 98 Windstar dashboard trim question


> Greetings to all in the land of the blue oval!
> My wife and I recently bought a used 98 Windstar. It seem to have a rather
> complete options package, but we didn't get the owners manual or any of
the
> other books that ordinarily come with them. The books are on backorder and
> won't be available for six weeks yet.
> I have figured out just about everything, but I am having a hard time with
a
> 3/4X5 inch slot that is located just above the vent outlets in the middle
of
> the dashboard. It has what appears to be a factory installed plate sealing
> it up.
> Anybody got a clue?
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:26:35 -0500
From: Glenn S See
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Roof Leak, 97 F150 SC

I had a 1988 SC (not my 1998 I have now) that had a leak in nearly the
same location, where the sheetmetal joint in the roof was (factory
sliding window, too). Sounds like the same sheetmetal guy at the factory
is still there.

Steve

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:53:55 -0400 Norm Hurst
writes:
> Anyone had this one? I got in my truck the other morning after a
> heavy
> rainfall and saw water dripping down from the headliner onto the
> back seat,
> at a point in line with the right edge of the sliding rear window.
>
> My truck is still in warranty, so I plan to have this fixed. I also
> have
> "the crack", and I plan to have that repaired as well. I am very
> thankful
> for this group -- I never would have seen that crack before the
> warranty
> ran out!
>
> -Norm
>
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:59:23 -0500
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Bug Shields?

The Ford deflector (I hesitate to use the word "bug" from the contents smeared
over my windows from driving country roads), is negotiable like everything else.
So if you choose the Ford, as I did, you might check on how much the dealer
takes, or better yet, the minimum they would take for both shield - and
installation.

Unless you plan to install the deflector yourself on the dealership's lot, I don't
recommend driving home without it already installed. The deflector is more of
a rock than bug deflector. And it would be just your luck to have some passing
ch'vy or d'dge truck kick-up a rock into the lip of the hood of your new truck
while you "babying" it home.

The price of the Ford shield with installation ranges from $180 to $270. In
fact, my dealer started at $270, until I worked him down to $200. (Still a
little high but he through in some other stuff.)

Important - whomever does the install, make sure they remove the stock
gasket from under the front of the hood where the deflector will mount.
If you don't remove the gasket you will have a hell of a time closing the hood.
The instruction clearly state this - but the "prep-boy" at the dealerships
apparently, can't read.

I also recommend the Ford mud guards (flaps), for the wheel wells. They
really protect and they look good too. I paid $40 altogether for the front
and rear guards, plus another $10 for the dealer to install them ($50 total).
(I had to return the next day, because the "prep-boys" failed to attach the
front guards via one of those black plastic, x-mas tree type fasteners, to the
rocker panel just in front of the cab steps.)

If you can watch the prep-boy work I would suggest you do so. It's either
that or prepare a checklist and go over it thoroughly before leaving the lot.

When you order the Super Duty mud guards, there are two types - one for
2x4 trucks and one for 4x4s, so make sure you get the right type.

And order these parts early, mine for some reason took about two weeks.
Still in time but was starting to worry that I wouldn't have them upon delivery.

Now for the real decision - drop-in bed liner or spray-in? Good luck!

Regards,

Charles.



"Gilbert D. Warren" wrote:

> I bought my bug shield right from the ford accessory catalog for 99 250 sd. it
> is pretty nice and works fine. Had to drill holes but it was complete. The ford
> stuff has really good directions I have bought a lot of stuff from my ford
> dealer. prices are right on par with after market and the more i bought the
> better the prices I got
>
> Gary Edwards wrote:
>
> > I had a question about bug shields (as I wait for my 2000 SD F-250)...
> > I've seen some nice ones on 99 units I've seen around my area, what is the
> > recommended brand name? Also, the ones I have seen are very form fittings,
> > how do you wash underneath them to remove dirt and grime?
> >
> > On my current truck, I had installed a bug shield in '83 or '84 which
> > actually had to be screwed into the metal of the hood... these screw holes
> > have developed rust. What would be a good compound to put on the screws or
> > drill holes to prevent this from happening to my new truck? Thanks for any
> > info :)
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:14:35 -0500
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Bug Shields? - corrected price!

Charles Abraham wrote:

>
>
> The price of the Ford shield with installation ranges from $180 to $270. In
> fact, my dealer started at $270, until I worked him down to $200. (Still a
> little high but he through in some other stuff.)
>

Sorry, this is what I paid for the Ford Duraliner drop-in bed liner (another story).

The bug shield was $75 installed. Don't have the price for the shield alone.

Charles.

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:04:55 -0600
From: "Peter"
Subject: FTE 97up - Update on Cracked Sheetmetal

For all of those who have cracks in their doors:

I also have a crack in the sheetmetal of my driver's side door. The crack
is about 1/4 inch up from the bottom of the window. It is visible without
having to lift up the weather stripping.

I took my 98 F150 Lariat to the dealer yesterday (Wed, Sep 15th). They've
ordered a new driver's side door and informed me that it will take 2 days,
once they get the door, to get the door installed and painted.

I've also got the company digital camera in hand, and will take some
pictures tonight(Sept 16th) of the crack for all those that have been
wanting "1000 words". ;-)

I'll have them tomorrow, and will send them to Ken. If any one else want's
a copy, let me know.

Peter Taylor



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Date: 16 Sep 1999 15:52:31 -0700
From: "Nicholas Theyer"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Update on Cracked Sheetmetal - Photo request

Pete, I would like to get a copy of that digital photo when you get one,

Thanks,

Nicholas Theyer
Production Planner
Crown Packaging Kelowna
Corrugated Division
2092 Enterprise Way, Kelowna, BC V1Y 6H7
(250) 712-3306


I've also got the company digital camera in hand, and will take some
pictures tonight(Sept 16th) of the crack for all those that have been
wanting "1000 words". ;-)

I'll have them tomorrow, and will send them to Ken. If any one else want's
a copy, let me know.

Peter Taylor

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:58:19 -0500
From: "Mike Brula"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Update on Cracked Sheetmetal

Peter

I'd like a copy please

Mike Brula
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Peter
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 10:04 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Update on Cracked Sheetmetal


> For all of those who have cracks in their doors:
>
> I also have a crack in the sheetmetal of my driver's side door. The crack
> is about 1/4 inch up from the bottom of the window. It is visible without
> having to lift up the weather stripping.
>
> I took my 98 F150 Lariat to the dealer yesterday (Wed, Sep 15th). They've
> ordered a new driver's side door and informed me that it will take 2 days,
> once they get the door, to get the door installed and painted.
>
> I've also got the company digital camera in hand, and will take some
> pictures tonight(Sept 16th) of the crack for all those that have been
> wanting "1000 words". ;-)
>
> I'll have them tomorrow, and will send them to Ken. If any one else
want's
> a copy, let me know.
>
> Peter Taylor
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:42:48 -0700
From: "Jeff Schapker"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Update on Cracked Sheetmetal - Photo request

I would like to see a photo too.



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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:26:26 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Update on Cracked Sheetmetal - Photo request

At 07:42 PM 9/16/99 -0700, you wrote:
>I would like to see a photo too.


They'll be posted on the web site.

Ken

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:41:43 -0500
From: "Mike Fairleigh"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Update on Cracked Sheetmetal - Photo request

Me, too.

Mike Fairleigh
mikef sky.net
...Always remembering our veterans.

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To:
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 9:42 PM....

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