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RE: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's
Re: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's
RE: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's
Re: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's
RE: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's
Re: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's
Re: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's
FTE 97up - Floor Mats for Sale
FTE 97up - Where is survey located?
Re: FTE 97up - Where is survey located?
Re: FTE 97up - Where is survey located?
Re: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke and steering shaft clunk
Re: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's
Re: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
Re: FTE 97up - Re:Need a pickup bed

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 06:21:05 -0500
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's

I put the 2" Superlift in my F250SD and changed to 35x2.50 BFGs. My
original plan was to put the 2" lift and 295/75R16s, but I saw one with
this setup and the tires looked to small. I would suggest that if you are
going to put the 285s on, skip the lift. They will fit with no problem.
If you do end up with a lift, I personnaly would shy away from the
Skyjacker lift. that one uses add a leafs. I know there have been some
issues with the add a leafs causing the stock springs to crack. Not to
mention a stiffer ride.


Mike Strukel

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Subject: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's


Ok right now i have stock 265/75 / 16s, on the 99 XLT rims, i have 99 F250SD

XLT 4x4 142wb , 7.3, auto. I was thinking 285/ 75 / 16s... I plan on
putting
2- 2.5" Skyjacker front lift on sometime soon.

What do you guys have? I would like to stay with stock rims right now.

Thanks
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:24:02 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's

In a message dated 99-09-09 07:23:45 EDT, you write:

ok well could you tell me what the superlift kit includes, i am trying to
figure out why there is such a price difference.

RS

Date: 99-09-09 07:23:45 EDT
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I put the 2" Superlift in my F250SD and changed to 35x2.50 BFGs. My
original plan was to put the 2" lift and 295/75R16s, but I saw one with
this setup and the tires looked to small. I would suggest that if you are
going to put the 285s on, skip the lift. They will fit with no problem.
If you do end up with a lift, I personnaly would shy away from the
Skyjacker lift. that one uses add a leafs. I know there have been some
issues with the add a leafs causing the stock springs to crack. Not to
mention a stiffer ride.


Mike Strukel

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Subject: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's


Ok right now i have stock 265/75 / 16s, on the 99 XLT rims, i have 99 F250SD

XLT 4x4 142wb , 7.3, auto. I was thinking 285/ 75 / 16s... I plan on
putting
2- 2.5" Skyjacker front lift on sometime soon.

What do you guys have? I would like to stay with stock rims right now.

Thanks
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:31:03 -0500
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's

The superlift includes front spring hanger and shackles, track bar drop
bracket, and shocks.
Trailmater includes hanger/shackles, sway bar extensions and shocks.

Mike Strukel

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In a message dated 99-09-09 07:23:45 EDT, you write:

ok well could you tell me what the superlift kit includes, i am trying to
figure out why there is such a price difference.

RS

Date: 99-09-09 07:23:45 EDT
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I put the 2" Superlift in my F250SD and changed to 35x2.50 BFGs. My
original plan was to put the 2" lift and 295/75R16s, but I saw one with
this setup and the tires looked to small. I would suggest that if you are
going to put the 285s on, skip the lift. They will fit with no problem.
If you do end up with a lift, I personnaly would shy away from the
Skyjacker lift. that one uses add a leafs. I know there have been some
issues with the add a leafs causing the stock springs to crack. Not to
mention a stiffer ride.


Mike Strukel

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Subject: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's


Ok right now i have stock 265/75 / 16s, on the 99 XLT rims, i have 99
F250SD

XLT 4x4 142wb , 7.3, auto. I was thinking 285/ 75 / 16s... I plan on
putting
2- 2.5" Skyjacker front lift on sometime soon.

What do you guys have? I would like to stay with stock rims right now.

Thanks
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 08:33:15 -0700
From: Gene Ball
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's

Ross, do you know what blocks you have between the rear axle and the springs?
You know the early 99SDs had 4in blocks, and the later have 2in blocks!
I have replaced my 4in with 2in to make the truck sit much closer to level.
Alot of guys have raised the front to compromise for this ?
So what I am saying is 285/75/16 looks real nice with 2in blocks in the rear!
You need to be careful when going to taller tires, cause you through your gearing

right out the door. Then it takes dam near a$1000 to straighten that out!
Gene
RSnovi aol.com wrote:

> Ok right now i have stock 265/75 / 16s, on the 99 XLT rims, i have 99 F250SD
> XLT 4x4 142wb , 7.3, auto. I was thinking 285/ 75 / 16s... I plan on putting
> 2- 2.5" Skyjacker front lift on sometime soon.
>
> What do you guys have? I would like to stay with stock rims right now.
>
> Thanks
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:40:42 -0500
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's

I would agree that the 2" blocks in the rear with 285s would look great.
As far as gearing goes..... It depend, is the best answer. yes, larger
tires will definately affect gearing, but in some cases, does it matter?
I have a V10 with 3.73s in mine. I ended up putting on 35s, but the
v10/3.73 combination does fine. I do pull my boat which weighs about
4000lbs and it does not even phase the truck. If you are pulling
10,000lbs, now that is a different story.


Mike Strukel

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Ross, do you know what blocks you have between the rear axle and the
springs?
You know the early 99SDs had 4in blocks, and the later have 2in blocks!
I have replaced my 4in with 2in to make the truck sit much closer to level.
Alot of guys have raised the front to compromise for this ?
So what I am saying is 285/75/16 looks real nice with 2in blocks in the
rear!
You need to be careful when going to taller tires, cause you through your
gearing

right out the door. Then it takes dam near a$1000 to straighten that out!
Gene
RSnovi aol.com wrote:

> Ok right now i have stock 265/75 / 16s, on the 99 XLT rims, i have 99
F250SD
> XLT 4x4 142wb , 7.3, auto. I was thinking 285/ 75 / 16s... I plan on
putting
> 2- 2.5" Skyjacker front lift on sometime soon.
>
> What do you guys have? I would like to stay with stock rims right now.
>
> Thanks
> Ross Smith
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 08:53:33 -0700
From: Gene Ball
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's

I agree with you Mike, I am refering to anything much taller!
And who knows what gears he has now?
I have the V10 3.73LS I pull about 5000lb boat!
Gene

Strukel, Mike wrote:

> I would agree that the 2" blocks in the rear with 285s would look great.
> As far as gearing goes..... It depend, is the best answer. yes, larger
> tires will definately affect gearing, but in some cases, does it matter?
> I have a V10 with 3.73s in mine. I ended up putting on 35s, but the
> v10/3.73 combination does fine. I do pull my boat which weighs about
> 4000lbs and it does not even phase the truck. If you are pulling
> 10,000lbs, now that is a different story.
>
> Mike Strukel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Ball [mailto:granvill megsinet.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 10:33 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's
>
> Ross, do you know what blocks you have between the rear axle and the
> springs?
> You know the early 99SDs had 4in blocks, and the later have 2in blocks!
> I have replaced my 4in with 2in to make the truck sit much closer to level.
> Alot of guys have raised the front to compromise for this ?
> So what I am saying is 285/75/16 looks real nice with 2in blocks in the
> rear!
> You need to be careful when going to taller tires, cause you through your
> gearing
>
> right out the door. Then it takes dam near a$1000 to straighten that out!
> Gene
> RSnovi aol.com wrote:
>
> > Ok right now i have stock 265/75 / 16s, on the 99 XLT rims, i have 99
> F250SD
> > XLT 4x4 142wb , 7.3, auto. I was thinking 285/ 75 / 16s... I plan on
> putting
> > 2- 2.5" Skyjacker front lift on sometime soon.
> >
> > What do you guys have? I would like to stay with stock rims right now.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Ross Smith
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:12:17 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's

In a message dated 99-09-09 09:34:10 EDT, you write:

so, it sounds like the trailmaster or superlift is the correct way to keep
geometry.



Ross Smith
99 F250SD PSD/SC/4x4



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The superlift includes front spring hanger and shackles, track bar drop
bracket, and shocks.
Trailmater includes hanger/shackles, sway bar extensions and shocks.

Mike Strukel

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In a message dated 99-09-09 07:23:45 EDT, you write:

ok well could you tell me what the superlift kit includes, i am trying to
figure out why there is such a price difference.

RS

Date: 99-09-09 07:23:45 EDT
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I put the 2" Superlift in my F250SD and changed to 35x2.50 BFGs. My
original plan was to put the 2" lift and 295/75R16s, but I saw one with
this setup and the tires looked to small. I would suggest that if you are
going to put the 285s on, skip the lift. They will fit with no problem.
If you do end up with a lift, I personnaly would shy away from the
Skyjacker lift. that one uses add a leafs. I know there have been some
issues with the add a leafs causing the stock springs to crack. Not to
mention a stiffer ride.


Mike Strukel

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Subject: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's


Ok right now i have stock 265/75 / 16s, on the 99 XLT rims, i have 99
F250SD

XLT 4x4 142wb , 7.3, auto. I was thinking 285/ 75 / 16s... I plan on
putting
2- 2.5" Skyjacker front lift on sometime soon.

What do you guys have? I would like to stay with stock rims right now.

Thanks
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 14:11:51 -0500
From: John A Walker
Subject: FTE 97up - Floor Mats for Sale

I have a set of NPI Nifty Catch-All floormats for sale. They are brand new,
still in box and never used. They are tan in color. These are really nice
floormats that are a custom fit for 97-up F150's. I ordered them shortly
after ordering my 99 F150. Unfortunatelly, I waited 13 weeks, never got the
truck and the deal fell through. Now I am stuck with the floormats. I have
$85 invested. Will sell for $60, buyer pays shipping. They can be seen in
Truckin magazine, Trader's Truck, and Sport Truck magazine. Reply to me
personally so that we don't upset others on the list. The e-mail is
walkeja1 wku.edu.

Thanks,

John Walker
walkeja1 wku.edu

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 12:55:12 -0700
From: Don and Nancy Yoder
Subject: FTE 97up - Where is survey located?

Where is the survey at? I would like to do it as I have a crack in my
door also. I am going to
my dealer today my truck is still under warrantee. Thanks, Don, In
Oregon


Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 06:36:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: dlsipe webtv.net (Darin Sipe)
Subject: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal

1. Ken - thanks for posting the survey.
2. I sent letters to the editors of Truckin and Truck Trend magazines
detailing the problems and Ford's lack of response to those beyond the
3/36 warranty.
3. I strongly suggest that all those who have this problem file a
complaint with the NTHSA. This can be done at dot.gov
4. Spread the word to fellow 97+ F150 owners. There is strength in
numbers!

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 16:12:08 -0400
From: kpayne ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Where is survey located?

Read all email which starts with "ADMIN"

Don and Nancy Yoder wrote:
>
> Where is the survey at? I would like to do it as I have a crack in my
> door also. I am going to
> my dealer today my truck is still under warrantee. Thanks, Don, In
> Oregon
>
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:16:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hunter
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Where is survey located?

Try this URL...
http://www.ford-trucks.com/cgi-bin/vcenter.cgi

Hunter in Ohio.

> Where is the survey at? I would like to do it as I have a crack in my
> door also. I am going to
> my dealer today my truck is still under warrantee. Thanks, Don, In
> Oregon

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:31:58 EDT
From: ATUMLAW aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal

Does anybody have the Ford service number for the cracked door sheetmetal? I
lost the email that had it.

Thanks in advance.

Atilla
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:11:42 -0400
From: "Anthony Ciarfello"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke and steering shaft clunk

My 98 4x4 does the same thing all the time. I've let it go all summer, I
think I am going grease it also. What about the steering clunk do you have a
solution for that fix. Dealers repairs don't last very long, a couple days.

Thanks
Tony C

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 21:21:10 -0400
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's

I have the 4" block in the rear of my '99 SuperDuty / SuperCab / F-350 / 4X4
/ V-10 / 3.73LS / etc., and I went with the Tuff Country 3-1/2" lift
(includes 2 new 6-leaf spring packs for the front, including track bar
replacement, sway-bar end links, etc., etc.) for the front which damn near
made the truck dead level; however, I have not yet purchased new wheels
and/or tires. One thing I have to be concerned about is going too tall with
tires, because I snowplow in the winter on occasion (my and my familys
various driveways around town) and when I lift the front, my snowplow
"Minute-Mount" system automatically adjusted to the new height, but did so
by going all the way out to the very end of adjustment range! Of course, I
could always spend a little $$$ and add range to the plow's adjustment
mechanism if I found the right size tires and wheels! Anyone else with a
similar set-up and concerns??

Keith



- ----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ball
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's


> Ross, do you know what blocks you have between the rear axle and the
springs?
> You know the early 99SDs had 4in blocks, and the later have 2in blocks!
> I have replaced my 4in with 2in to make the truck sit much closer to
level.
> Alot of guys have raised the front to compromise for this ?
> So what I am saying is 285/75/16 looks real nice with 2in blocks in the
rear!
> You need to be careful when going to taller tires, cause you through your
gearing
>
> right out the door. Then it takes dam near a$1000 to straighten that out!
> Gene
> RSnovi aol.com wrote:
>
> > Ok right now i have stock 265/75 / 16s, on the 99 XLT rims, i have 99
F250SD
> > XLT 4x4 142wb , 7.3, auto. I was thinking 285/ 75 / 16s... I plan on
putting
> > 2- 2.5" Skyjacker front lift on sometime soon.
> >
> > What do you guys have? I would like to stay with stock rims right now.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Ross Smith
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:02:40 -0400
From: "Larry Hackler"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal

Yea it was: Also checked two trucks in the parking lot today. A 97
F-150 and a F-250 (NOT super duty) and they both had the crack on the
drivers AND passenger side.

Larry

> This surfaced a few months ago, it seems to be '97 and '98's. There
is a
> special service message (ssm 12071 ) that says that the fix for now
is to
> replace the door, a fix will be announced 3rd quarter '99 which will
consist
> of a reinforcement plate to prevent cracking. So if the truck is
still in
> warranty Ford will pay for a new door, and then in the next few
months
> they'll have a reinforcing plate to stop it from happening again.
>
> Nathan Bernard
> Union Auto, Inc.
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From: ATUMLAW aol.com
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal


>Does anybody have the Ford service number for the cracked door
sheetmetal? I
>lost the email that had it.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Atilla
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 21:28:51 -0700
From: The Hepburn
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re:Need a pickup bed

RAMWORKER aol.com wrote:
>
> 2. Has anyone actually swapped one of these....


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