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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
RE: FTE 97up - Transmission Problems
RE: FTE 97up - After market Ford SVT Lightning Blower (was Perfor mance Questi...
RE: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
Re: FTE 97up - Re:Need a pickup bed
Re: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
RE: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
RE: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
RE: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
FTE 97up - front leveling 99 F250SD 4x4 PSD..
Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
Re: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
FTE 97up - F250SD 4x4 tire sizeing Q's
FTE 97up - 99 E-450 gas cap help

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 06:36:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: dlsipe webtv.net (Darin Sipe)
Subject: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal

1. Ken - thanks for posting the survey.
2. I sent letters to the editors of Truckin and Truck Trend magazines
detailing the problems and Ford's lack of response to those beyond the
3/36 warranty.
3. I strongly suggest that all those who have this problem file a
complaint with the NTHSA. This can be done at dot.gov
4. Spread the word to fellow 97+ F150 owners. There is strength in
numbers!

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:12:18 -0500
From: "Owens, Robbie A"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Transmission Problems

It feels like getting tapped from behind. All the other shifts 2-3-4th
shift smooth and normal. I'll tell the dealer to pay attention to the Slip
Yoke when I take it in Fri.
Thanks for you help Chris!
Rob Owens
Boeing Aerospace Operations
Buyer
Navy E-6 Program
405-739-1953

> ----------
> From: Christian Bagley[SMTP:c_bagley hotmail.com]
> Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:47 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmission Problems
>
> Rob,
>
> Do the RPM's go up and then it slams in to gear or does it just feel like
> a
> jolt or almost like getting hit from behind? It may be the slip yoke
> binding up. This has happened to my truck and after I grease the slip
> yoke,
> it goes away.
>
> Chris
>
>
> >From: "Owens, Robbie A"
> >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >To: "'F-150 Mailing List'" ,
> "'Ford-Trucks
> >list'"
> >Subject: FTE 97up - Transmission Problems
> >Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:20:57 -0500
> >
> >Has anyone else on the list with the 4.2L Auto tranny had any problems
> with
> >their truck shifting really hard into gear from 1st to 2nd? It just
> slams
> >into gear like a bang, bang sound as if it missed the gear the first time
> >and grabbed on the second. It doesn't do it when I'm accelerating
> >normally,
> >but when I get on it like on on-ramps it happens. It only does it when
> I'm
> >putting a load on the throttle. I'm going to make an appointment for
> this
> >Friday to take it in and hopefully get it fixed along with getting some
> new
> >rotors because mind have gone Kaput!!
> >
> >Thanks for any input.
> >Rob Owens
> >Boeing Aerospace Operations
> >Buyer
> >Navy E-6 Program
> >405-739-1953
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:14:01 -0500
From: "Owens, Robbie A"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - After market Ford SVT Lightning Blower (was Perfor mance Questi...

I'll trade you a '98 Red STX for it!!..........no?............damn! :-)
Rob Owens
Boeing Aerospace Operations
Buyer
Navy E-6 Program
405-739-1953

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> Performance Questi...
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> I have the 99 ford lightning anfd it is sweet as hell. The combination
> Ford
> built is incrediable. Hats off to the Ford boys.
>
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:29:23 -0500
From: "Owens, Robbie A"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal

What are you all using to lift the weather stripping? I just went outside
to look at mine and I saw nothing outside the weather stripping. This crack
is on the drivers side starting in the bottom corner above the door handle
right? I tried to lift up the stripping but it is too stiff. How did you
all lift it up?
Rob Owens
Boeing Aerospace Operations
Buyer
Navy E-6 Program
405-739-1953

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> Subject: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
>
> 1. Ken - thanks for posting the survey.
> 2. I sent letters to the editors of Truckin and Truck Trend magazines
> detailing the problems and Ford's lack of response to those beyond the
> 3/36 warranty.
> 3. I strongly suggest that all those who have this problem file a
> complaint with the NTHSA. This can be done at dot.gov
> 4. Spread the word to fellow 97+ F150 owners. There is strength in
> numbers!
>
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:12:43 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re:Need a pickup bed

In a message dated 99-09-07 22:47:46 EDT, you write:


pretty sure your going to have to bed painted in order to match up , because
most fleet sale trucks are white or sometimes black. short bed may also pose
a problem.

Are you sure the frames are the same? i thought the larger 450 and up was
slightly different, maybe its just more spring and brakes. I naturally i cant
find the old brochure......anyone need some fire starter paper? :)

RS


Date: 99-09-07 22:47:46 EDT
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Hi Guys,

I have a friend who has just ordered a '00 F-450
crew cab. He's ordered it in dark torreador (sp?) red
and wants to make a pickup out of it. This brings
up two questions:

1. Does anyone have or know where he can find
a dually bed in this color? We can find lots of
white and black, but no red.

2. Has anyone actually swapped one of these
beds onto an F-450 or F-550? Alan, Lee? He says
he ordered the "short" wheel base version so he
won't have the gap between the cab and bed. So
I believe that leaves us with the relatively easy job
of making up the difference in frame rail heights
between the different chassis.

TIA and Best Regards,
Robert

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:37:58 -0400
From: Rob
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal

rob... the crack is about 1/4 inch down from the top of the curved
piece of molding at the rear (not bottom) of the window. to lift the
molding you have to have the window down! this tightness (when up) and
looseness when down (the flexing of the sheet metal) is whats causing
this to happen... i looked at this on mine yesterday, sprayed it with
wd40 with the straw and painted with touch up paint. it will probably
crack again. the crack dont bother me as much as the thought of rust
right there. i saw that this is where the window cutout ends (from that
point up the rear of the door is solid) maybe better said from that
point up the window is outside of the inside of the door. it is a built
in, natural hinge point for the flex of the metal. watch it as you put
your window down and up, boy does it flex. if you do not have the
problem now - you will if you do not get the proposed stiffener put in.
of course that depends on how much you put the windows up and down when
it will happen, but it will happen sooner or later. i just hope the
crack doesnt spread anymore on mine.

rob in PA

"Owens, Robbie A" wrote:
>
> What are you all using to lift the weather stripping? I just went outside
> to look at mine and I saw nothing outside the weather stripping. This crack
> is on the drivers side starting in the bottom corner above the door handle
> right? I tried to lift up the stripping but it is too stiff. How did you
> all lift it up?
> Rob Owens
> Boeing Aerospace Operations
> Buyer
> Navy E-6 Program
> 405-739-1953
>
> > ----------
> > From: dlsipe webtv.net[SMTP:dlsipe webtv.net]
> > Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 5:36 AM
> > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
> >
> > 1. Ken - thanks for posting the survey.
> > 2. I sent letters to the editors of Truckin and Truck Trend magazines
> > detailing the problems and Ford's lack of response to those beyond the
> > 3/36 warranty.
> > 3. I strongly suggest that all those who have this problem file a
> > complaint with the NTHSA. This can be done at dot.gov
> > 4. Spread the word to fellow 97+ F150 owners. There is strength in
> > numbers!
> >
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:42:21 -0400
From: Rob
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)

> > ----------
> > From: Christian Bagley[SMTP:c_bagley hotmail.com]
> > Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:47 AM
> > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmission Problems
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> > Do the RPM's go up and then it slams in to gear or does it just feel like
> > a
> > jolt or almost like getting hit from behind? It may be the slip yoke
> > binding up. This has happened to my truck and after I grease the slip
> > yoke,
> > it goes away.
> >
> > Chris
> >

chris... could you give us a little procedural guidance on how (and
what with) to grease this slip yoke?

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 11:10:24 EDT
From: "Christian Bagley"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)

I just used regular bearing grease. I removed the bolts from the drive
shaft which hold it to the rear diff then pulled the drive shaft out of the
tranny/slipyoke, I then just took a lot of grease and rubbed it on the part
of the drive shaft that goes in to the slip yoke(inside and outside) and
then greased the slip yoke as much as I could. Then I put the drive shaft
back in to the slip yoke and took it out several times to grease it good and
added grease each time I took it back out to make sure it is very well
greased. When I was satisfied that it was greased enough, I just put the
drive shaft back in place and bolted it up. This worked for about 6-8
months with no problems. I did start to get the "bump" feeling at about 8
months after driving to and from work and taking several trips to the Outer
Banks of NC on the beach, but I very rarely have this happen now and it has
been almost a year since I did this. I hope this helps. If you go to a
dealer, they will tell you "they all do that" and say it is not a problem
but there is a TSB(Technical Service Bulletin) on this. Here is the web
site for TSB's and recalls for the 97 trucks
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/pro/TSB/9720_mo.html and here is the web site for
98's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/pro/TSB/9820_mo.html

Good Luck,
Chris

P.S. Sorry for the long post.

>From: Rob
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
>Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:42:21 -0400
>
>
>
>
> > > ----------
> > > From: Christian Bagley[SMTP:c_bagley hotmail.com]
> > > Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:47 AM
> > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmission Problems
> > >
> > > Rob,
> > >
> > > Do the RPM's go up and then it slams in to gear or does it just feel
>like
> > > a
> > > jolt or almost like getting hit from behind? It may be the slip yoke
> > > binding up. This has happened to my truck and after I grease the slip
> > > yoke,
> > > it goes away.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
>
>chris... could you give us a little procedural guidance on how (and
>what with) to grease this slip yoke?
>
>rob in PA
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:10:39 -0500
From: "Owens, Robbie A"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal

I just went outside and put the windows completely down. Pulled the weather
stripping off of the frame on the drivers and passengers side window, and
looked at the top back side corner and found nothing on either side all the
way down to the bottom corner just above the door handle. I'm looking in
the right place right?
Rob Owens
Boeing Aerospace Operations
Buyer
Navy E-6 Program
405-739-1953

> ----------
> From: Rob[SMTP:lonewolf-97 home.com]
> Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 9:37 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
>
> rob... the crack is about 1/4 inch down from the top of the curved
> piece of molding at the rear (not bottom) of the window. to lift the
> molding you have to have the window down! this tightness (when up) and
> looseness when down (the flexing of the sheet metal) is whats causing
> this to happen... i looked at this on mine yesterday, sprayed it with
> wd40 with the straw and painted with touch up paint. it will probably
> crack again. the crack dont bother me as much as the thought of rust
> right there. i saw that this is where the window cutout ends (from that
> point up the rear of the door is solid) maybe better said from that
> point up the window is outside of the inside of the door. it is a built
> in, natural hinge point for the flex of the metal. watch it as you put
> your window down and up, boy does it flex. if you do not have the
> problem now - you will if you do not get the proposed stiffener put in.
> of course that depends on how much you put the windows up and down when
> it will happen, but it will happen sooner or later. i just hope the
> crack doesnt spread anymore on mine.
>
> rob in PA
>
> "Owens, Robbie A" wrote:
> >
> > What are you all using to lift the weather stripping? I just went
> outside
> > to look at mine and I saw nothing outside the weather stripping. This
> crack
> > is on the drivers side starting in the bottom corner above the door
> handle
> > right? I tried to lift up the stripping but it is too stiff. How did
> you
> > all lift it up?
> > Rob Owens
> > Boeing Aerospace Operations
> > Buyer
> > Navy E-6 Program
> > 405-739-1953
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: dlsipe webtv.net[SMTP:dlsipe webtv.net]
> > > Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 5:36 AM
> > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > Subject: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
> > >
> > > 1. Ken - thanks for posting the survey.
> > > 2. I sent letters to the editors of Truckin and Truck Trend magazines
> > > detailing the problems and Ford's lack of response to those beyond the
> > > 3/36 warranty.
> > > 3. I strongly suggest that all those who have this problem file a
> > > complaint with the NTHSA. This can be done at dot.gov
> > > 4. Spread the word to fellow 97+ F150 owners. There is strength in
> > > numbers!
> > >
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:22:24 -0500
From: jmann living.com
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal

Folks,

I'm not sure about Ford, but I once had a problem with my 95 VW and after
bitching to the dealer and VW to no avail, I called the auto division of the
Better Business Bureau and filed a complaint. I'm not kidding her, a
manager from VWoA called me within 24 hrs.

I was complaining about squeaky interior door panel, which everyone had
refused to deal with up to that point. The VWoA manager called the dealer
and told them to fix the problem, even if it involved completely replacing
them.

For those of you who may think, "well VW is small and needs to work harder
at the customer relationship" keep in mind VW AG is the third largest
automobile manufacture in the world. Right behind Ford.

Joe


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From: dlsipe webtv.net [mailto:dlsipe webtv.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 5:37 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal

1. Ken - thanks for posting the survey.
2. I sent letters to the editors of Truckin and Truck Trend magazines
detailing the problems and Ford's lack of response to those beyond the
3/36 warranty.
3. I strongly suggest that all those who have this problem file a
complaint with the NTHSA. This can be done at dot.gov
4. Spread the word to fellow 97+ F150 owners. There is strength in
numbers!

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 11:19:12 EDT
From: "Christian Bagley"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)

For the 97 trucks the TSB is:

97-13-21 JUN 97 Clunking or Grunting Noise from Driveline

The 98 does not show this TSB but you can referenced the 97 TSB for the same
problem.



>From: Rob
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
>Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:42:21 -0400
>
>
>
>
> > > ----------
> > > From: Christian Bagley[SMTP:c_bagley hotmail.com]
> > > Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:47 AM
> > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmission Problems
> > >
> > > Rob,
> > >
> > > Do the RPM's go up and then it slams in to gear or does it just feel
>like
> > > a
> > > jolt or almost like getting hit from behind? It may be the slip yoke
> > > binding up. This has happened to my truck and after I grease the slip
> > > yoke,
> > > it goes away.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
>
>chris... could you give us a little procedural guidance on how (and
>what with) to grease this slip yoke?
>
>rob in PA
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:46:14 -0700
From: "Rivera, Max"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal

Just went out to look at my 97 f150, and found a small crack, about quarter
inch in length, about 4-5 inches from the bottem right, above the door
handle, on the drivers side. It is right on the seam where two strips of
window trim meet. I did not see one on the passenger side. Fortunatly i am
still under the 3/36 warranty, going to the dealer asap.

Max Rivera
max.rivera compaq.com

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From: Rob [mailto:lonewolf-97 home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 9:38 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal


rob... the crack is about 1/4 inch down from the top of the curved
piece of molding at the rear (not bottom) of the window. to lift the
molding you have to have the window down! this tightness (when up) and
looseness when down (the flexing of the sheet metal) is whats causing
this to happen... i looked at this on mine yesterday, sprayed it with
wd40 with the straw and painted with touch up paint. it will probably
crack again. the crack dont bother me as much as the thought of rust
right there. i saw that this is where the window cutout ends (from that
point up the rear of the door is solid) maybe better said from that
point up the window is outside of the inside of the door. it is a built
in, natural hinge point for the flex of the metal. watch it as you put
your window down and up, boy does it flex. if you do not have the
problem now - you will if you do not get the proposed stiffener put in.
of course that depends on how much you put the windows up and down when
it will happen, but it will happen sooner or later. i just hope the
crack doesnt spread anymore on mine.

rob in PA

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:17:05 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - front leveling 99 F250SD 4x4 PSD..

Well i have been doing some researching and all i can locate is 2 different
companies that have corrections for front end. They are Skyjacker and FST.
Skyjacker seems to be have the best setup all around, and FST just have some
type of bracketry.

What have all you guys done on the list, give me some ideas here.

RS
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:23:39 -0400
From: Rob
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)

thanks for the info chris... i am familiar with the dreaded clunk...
had mine done several years ago and just started to notice it starting
to bind again. they use a teflon grease. just wanted to know what you
used and the procedure... mine is just out of warranty so this maneuver
will be all mine... how long does it take to do this? i hear there is
a bronze bearing in there that cannot be replaced and i dont want the
binding to get too bad...

rob in PA

Christian Bagley wrote:
>
> I just used regular bearing grease. I removed the bolts from the drive
> shaft which hold it to the rear diff then pulled the drive shaft out of the
> tranny/slipyoke, I then just took a lot of grease and rubbed it on the part
> of the drive shaft that goes in to the slip yoke(inside and outside) and
> then greased the slip yoke as much as I could. Then I put the drive shaft
> back in to the slip yoke and took it out several times to grease it good and
> added grease each time I took it back out to make sure it is very well
> greased. When I was satisfied that it was greased enough, I just put the
> drive shaft back in place and bolted it up. This worked for about 6-8
> months with no problems. I did start to get the "bump" feeling at about 8
> months after driving to and from work and taking several trips to the Outer
> Banks of NC on the beach, but I very rarely have this happen now and it has
> been almost a year since I did this. I hope this helps. If you go to a
> dealer, they will tell you "they all do that" and say it is not a problem
> but there is a TSB(Technical Service Bulletin) on this. Here is the web
> site for TSB's and recalls for the 97 trucks
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/pro/TSB/9720_mo.html and here is the web site for
> 98's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/pro/TSB/9820_mo.html
>
> Good Luck,
> Chris
>
> P.S. Sorry for the long post.
>
> >From: Rob
> >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
> >Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:42:21 -0400
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From: Christian Bagley[SMTP:c_bagley hotmail.com]
> > > > Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:47 AM
> > > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmission Problems
> > > >
> > > > Rob,
> > > >
> > > > Do the RPM's go up and then it slams in to gear or does it just feel
> >like
> > > > a
> > > > jolt or almost like getting hit from behind? It may be the slip yoke
> > > > binding up. This has happened to my truck and after I grease the slip
> > > > yoke,
> > > > it goes away.
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> >
> >chris... could you give us a little procedural guidance on how (and
> >what with) to grease this slip yoke?
> >
> >rob in PA
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:34:34 -0400
From: Rob
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal

yep... your in the right place. the crack will form right at the top of
the curved molding where it enters the inside cavity of the door. i read
the NHTSA complaints database (took about an hour!) and saw 2 reports of
this, one as early as may 15 1998... both reports were in 1998...
certainly isolated cases back then, but look now.

rob in PA

"Owens, Robbie A" wrote:
>
> I just went outside and put the windows completely down. Pulled the weather
> stripping off of the frame on the drivers and passengers side window, and
> looked at the top back side corner and found nothing on either side all the
> way down to the bottom corner just above the door handle. I'm looking in
> the right place right?
> Rob Owens
> Boeing Aerospace Operations
> Buyer
> Navy E-6 Program
> 405-739-1953
>
> > ----------
> > From: Rob[SMTP:lonewolf-97 home.com]
> > Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 9:37 AM
> > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
> >
> > rob... the crack is about 1/4 inch down from the top of the curved
> > piece of molding at the rear (not bottom) of the window. to lift the
> > molding you have to have the window down! this tightness (when up) and
> > looseness when down (the flexing of the sheet metal) is whats causing
> > this to happen... i looked at this on mine yesterday, sprayed it with
> > wd40 with the straw and painted with touch up paint. it will probably
> > crack again. the crack dont bother me as much as the thought of rust
> > right there. i saw that this is where the window cutout ends (from that
> > point up the rear of the door is solid) maybe better said from that
> > point up the window is outside of the inside of the door. it is a built
> > in, natural hinge point for the flex of the metal. watch it as you put
> > your window down and up, boy does it flex. if you do not have the
> > problem now - you will if you do not get the proposed stiffener put in.
> > of course that depends on how much you put the windows up and down when
> > it will happen, but it will happen sooner or later. i just hope the
> > crack doesnt spread anymore on mine.
> >
> > rob in PA
> >
> > "Owens, Robbie A" wrote:
> > >
> > > What are you all using to lift the weather stripping? I just went
> > outside
> > > to look at mine and I saw nothing outside the weather stripping. This
> > crack
> > > is on the drivers side starting in the bottom corner above the door
> > handle
> > > right? I tried to lift up the stripping but it is too stiff. How did
> > you
> > > all lift it up?
> > > Rob Owens
> > > Boeing Aerospace Operations
> > > Buyer
> > > Navy E-6 Program
> > > 405-739-1953
> > >
> > > > ----------
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> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 5:36 AM
> > > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > Subject: FTE 97up - Cracked Door Sheetmetal
> > > >
> > > > 1. Ken - thanks for posting the survey.
> > > > 2. I sent letters to the editors of Truckin and Truck Trend magazines
> > > > detailing the problems and Ford's lack of response to those beyond the
> > > > 3/36 warranty.
> > > > 3. I strongly suggest that all those who have this problem file a
> > > > complaint with the NTHSA. This can be done at dot.gov
> > > > 4. Spread the word to fellow 97+ F150 owners. There is strength in
> > > > numbers!
> > > >
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:42:42 EDT
From: "Christian Bagley"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)

It took me total about 1 hour. It's not too hard to do. Just make sure you
use a good twelve point wrench when taking and putting back on those bolts
on the drive shaft. If you strip them, they are hard to get off and you
will have to replace it. One of my bolts is almost stripped because I used
a bad wrench. I have not heard of the bronze bearing, what is it and where
is it? I also sanded and painted my drive shaft before I greased it. This
took much longer than 1 hour but just greasing, is just an hour.

Chris in VA


>From: Rob
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
>Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:23:39 -0400
>
>thanks for the info chris... i am familiar with the dreaded clunk...
>had mine done several years ago and just started to notice it starting
>to bind again. they use a teflon grease. just wanted to know what you
>used and the procedure... mine is just out of warranty so this maneuver
>will be all mine... how long does it take to do this? i hear there is
>a bronze bearing in there that cannot be replaced and i dont want the
>binding to get too bad...
>
>rob in PA
>
>Christian Bagley wrote:
> >
> > I just used regular bearing grease. I removed the bolts from the drive
> > shaft which hold it to the rear diff then pulled the drive shaft out of
>the
> > tranny/slipyoke, I then just took a lot of grease and rubbed it on the
>part
> > of the drive shaft that goes in to the slip yoke(inside and outside) and
> > then greased the slip yoke as much as I could. Then I put the drive
>shaft
> > back in to the slip yoke and took it out several times to grease it good
>and
> > added grease each time I took it back out to make sure it is very well
> > greased. When I was satisfied that it was greased enough, I just put
>the
> > drive shaft back in place and bolted it up. This worked for about 6-8
> > months with no problems. I did start to get the "bump" feeling at about
>8
> > months after driving to and from work and taking several trips to the
>Outer
> > Banks of NC on the beach, but I very rarely have this happen now and it
>has
> > been almost a year since I did this. I hope this helps. If you go to a
> > dealer, they will tell you "they all do that" and say it is not a
>problem
> > but there is a TSB(Technical Service Bulletin) on this. Here is the web
> > site for TSB's and recalls for the 97 trucks
> > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/pro/TSB/9720_mo.html and here is the web site
>for
> > 98's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/pro/TSB/9820_mo.html
> >
> > Good Luck,
> > Chris
> >
> > P.S. Sorry for the long post.
> >
> > >From: Rob
> > >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > >To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > >Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
> > >Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:42:21 -0400
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > From: Christian Bagley[SMTP:c_bagley hotmail.com]
> > > > > Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:47 AM
> > > > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmission Problems
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob,
> > > > >
> > > > > Do the RPM's go up and then it slams in to gear or does it just
>feel
> > >like
> > > > > a
> > > > > jolt or almost like getting hit from behind? It may be the slip
>yoke
> > > > > binding up. This has happened to my truck and after I grease the
>slip
> > > > > yoke,
> > > > > it goes away.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > >
> > >
> > >chris... could you give us a little procedural guidance on how (and
> > >what with) to grease this slip yoke?
> > >
> > >rob in PA
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 13:21:31 -0400
From: Rob
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)

good lord chris... sanded and painted the driveshaft!!!! wasnt white
with a red spiraling stripe was it! although that would look cool
especially with white/red rancho's! LOL... the sanding and painting
can be done much faster and easier with the rear up and the driveshaft
rotating, although much more risk involved!!!... the bronze bearing is
pressed into the tailstock i think... i remember reading about this
sometime ago so dont quote me... if it gets damaged you have to replace
the entire tailstock. maybe another listmember can shed some more light
on the bearing for us.

rob in PA

Christian Bagley wrote:
>
> It took me total about 1 hour. It's not too hard to do. Just make sure you
> use a good twelve point wrench when taking and putting back on those bolts
> on the drive shaft. If you strip them, they are hard to get off and you
> will have to replace it. One of my bolts is almost stripped because I used
> a bad wrench. I have not heard of the bronze bearing, what is it and where
> is it? I also sanded and painted my drive shaft before I greased it. This
> took much longer than 1 hour but just greasing, is just an hour.
>
> Chris in VA
>
> >From: Rob
> >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
> >Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:23:39 -0400
> >
> >thanks for the info chris... i am familiar with the dreaded clunk...
> >had mine done several years ago and just started to notice it starting
> >to bind again. they use a teflon grease. just wanted to know what you
> >used and the procedure... mine is just out of warranty so this maneuver
> >will be all mine... how long does it take to do this? i hear there is
> >a bronze bearing in there that cannot be replaced and i dont want the
> >binding to get too bad...
> >
> >rob in PA
> >
> >Christian Bagley wrote:
> > >
> > > I just used regular bearing grease. I removed the bolts from the drive
> > > shaft which hold it to the rear diff then pulled the drive shaft out of
> >the
> > > tranny/slipyoke, I then just took a lot of grease and rubbed it on the
> >part
> > > of the drive shaft that goes in to the slip yoke(inside and outside) and
> > > then greased the slip yoke as much as I could. Then I put the drive
> >shaft
> > > back in to the slip yoke and took it out several times to grease it good
> >and
> > > added grease each time I took it back out to make sure it is very well
> > > greased. When I was satisfied that it was greased enough, I just put
> >the
> > > drive shaft back in place and bolted it up. This worked for about 6-8
> > > months with no problems. I did start to get the "bump" feeling at about
> >8
> > > months after driving to and from work and taking several trips to the
> >Outer
> > > Banks of NC on the beach, but I very rarely have this happen now and it
> >has
> > > been almost a year since I did this. I hope this helps. If you go to a
> > > dealer, they will tell you "they all do that" and say it is not a
> >problem
> > > but there is a TSB(Technical Service Bulletin) on this. Here is the web
> > > site for TSB's and recalls for the 97 trucks
> > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/pro/TSB/9720_mo.html and here is the web site
> >for
> > > 98's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/pro/TSB/9820_mo.html
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > P.S. Sorry for the long post.
> > >
> > > >From: Rob
> > > >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > >To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > >Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
> > > >Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:42:21 -0400
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > From: Christian Bagley[SMTP:c_bagley hotmail.com]
> > > > > > Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:47 AM
> > > > > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmission Problems
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rob,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do the RPM's go up and then it slams in to gear or does it just
> >feel
> > > >like
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > jolt or almost like getting hit from behind? It may be the slip
> >yoke
> > > > > > binding up. This has happened to my truck and after I grease the
> >slip
> > > > > > yoke,
> > > > > > it goes away.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >chris... could you give us a little procedural guidance on how (and
> > > >what with) to grease this slip yoke?
> > > >
> > > >rob in PA
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 14:16:04 EDT
From: "Christian Bagley"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)

No, I did not paint it red and white...well, at least not yet. My truck is
red and I have Rancho shocks on it so I think that would be pretty cool
looking. Well, I checked my truck for the CRACK and YES I have it on BOTH
doors. The one on the passenger door is bigger than the driver. Neither
are rusting yet but the passeger one looks a little like it will rust soon
since it is exposed to the weather and not hidden by the weather strip. So,
include me on any action taken.

Chris


>From: Rob
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
>Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 13:21:31 -0400
>
>good lord chris... sanded and painted the driveshaft!!!! wasnt white
>with a red spiraling stripe was it! although that would look cool
>especially with white/red rancho's! LOL... the sanding and painting
>can be done much faster and easier with the rear up and the driveshaft
>rotating, although much more risk involved!!!... the bronze bearing is
>pressed into the tailstock i think... i remember reading about this
>sometime ago so dont quote me... if it gets damaged you have to replace
>the entire tailstock. maybe another listmember can shed some more light
>on the bearing for us.
>
>rob in PA
>
>Christian Bagley wrote:
> >
> > It took me total about 1 hour. It's not too hard to do. Just make sure
>you
> > use a good twelve point wrench when taking and putting back on those
>bolts
> > on the drive shaft. If you strip them, they are hard to get off and you
> > will have to replace it. One of my bolts is almost stripped because I
>used
> > a bad wrench. I have not heard of the bronze bearing, what is it and
>where
> > is it? I also sanded and painted my drive shaft before I greased it.
>This
> > took much longer than 1 hour but just greasing, is just an hour.
> >
> > Chris in VA
> >
> > >From: Rob
> > >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > >To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > >Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
> > >Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:23:39 -0400
> > >
> > >thanks for the info chris... i am familiar with the dreaded clunk...
> > >had mine done several years ago and just started to notice it starting
> > >to bind again. they use a teflon grease. just wanted to know what you
> > >used and the procedure... mine is just out of warranty so this
>maneuver
> > >will be all mine... how long does it take to do this? i hear there is
> > >a bronze bearing in there that cannot be replaced and i dont want the
> > >binding to get too bad...
> > >
> > >rob in PA
> > >
> > >Christian Bagley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just used regular bearing grease. I removed the bolts from the
>drive
> > > > shaft which hold it to the rear diff then pulled the drive shaft out
>of
> > >the
> > > > tranny/slipyoke, I then just took a lot of grease and rubbed it on
>the
> > >part
> > > > of the drive shaft that goes in to the slip yoke(inside and outside)
>and
> > > > then greased the slip yoke as much as I could. Then I put the drive
> > >shaft
> > > > back in to the slip yoke and took it out several times to grease it
>good
> > >and
> > > > added grease each time I took it back out to make sure it is very
>well
> > > > greased. When I was satisfied that it was greased enough, I just
>put
> > >the
> > > > drive shaft back in place and bolted it up. This worked for about
>6-8
> > > > months with no problems. I did start to get the "bump" feeling at
>about
> > >8
> > > > months after driving to and from work and taking several trips to
>the
> > >Outer
> > > > Banks of NC on the beach, but I very rarely have this happen now and
>it
> > >has
> > > > been almost a year since I did this. I hope this helps. If you go
>to a
> > > > dealer, they will tell you "they all do that" and say it is not a
> > >problem
> > > > but there is a TSB(Technical Service Bulletin) on this. Here is the
>web
> > > > site for TSB's and recalls for the 97 trucks
> > > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/pro/TSB/9720_mo.html and here is the web
>site
> > >for
> > > > 98's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/pro/TSB/9820_mo.html
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck,
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > P.S. Sorry for the long post.
> > > >
> > > > >From: Rob
> > > > >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > >To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
> > > > >Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:42:21 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > > From: Christian Bagley[SMTP:c_bagley hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:47 AM
> > > > > > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmission Problems
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rob,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do the RPM's go up and then it slams in to gear or does it
>just
> > >feel
> > > > >like
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > jolt or almost like getting hit from behind? It may be the
>slip
> > >yoke
> > > > > > > binding up. This has happened to my truck and after I grease
>the
> > >slip
> > > > > > > yoke,
> > > > > > > it goes away.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >chris... could you give us a little procedural guidance on how
>(and
> > > > >what with) to grease this slip yoke?
> > > > >
> > > > >rob in PA
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 14:26:51 -0400
From: Rob
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)

did you do the survey on the door crack? besides sending email to the
major truck mags about this, taking this survey is about all we can do
right now. i just wish it was a little more extensive and could reach
people that dont have computers and are not on this list. like a big
bulletin board posted next to a major highway would do me justice.

rob in PA

Christian Bagley wrote:
>
> No, I did not paint it red and white...well, at least not yet. My truck is
> red and I have Rancho shocks on it so I think that would be pretty cool
> looking. Well, I checked my truck for the CRACK and YES I have it on BOTH
> doors. The one on the passenger door is bigger than the driver. Neither
> are rusting yet but the passeger one looks a little like it will rust soon
> since it is exposed to the weather and not hidden by the weather strip. So,
> include me on any action taken.
>
> Chris
>
> >From: Rob
> >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
> >Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 13:21:31 -0400
> >
> >good lord chris... sanded and painted the driveshaft!!!! wasnt white
> >with a red spiraling stripe was it! although that would look cool
> >especially with white/red rancho's! LOL... the sanding and painting
> >can be done much faster and easier with the rear up and the driveshaft
> >rotating, although much more risk involved!!!... the bronze bearing is
> >pressed into the tailstock i think... i remember reading about this
> >sometime ago so dont quote me... if it gets damaged you have to replace
> >the entire tailstock. maybe another listmember can shed some more light
> >on the bearing for us.
> >
> >rob in PA
> >
> >Christian Bagley wrote:
> > >
> > > It took me total about 1 hour. It's not too hard to do. Just make sure
> >you
> > > use a good twelve point wrench when taking and putting back on those
> >bolts
> > > on the drive shaft. If you strip them, they are hard to get off and you
> > > will have to replace it. One of my bolts is almost stripped because I
> >used
> > > a bad wrench. I have not heard of the bronze bearing, what is it and
> >where
> > > is it? I also sanded and painted my drive shaft before I greased it.
> >This
> > > took much longer than 1 hour but just greasing, is just an hour.
> > >
> > > Chris in VA
> > >
> > > >From: Rob
> > > >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > >To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > >Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
> > > >Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:23:39 -0400
> > > >
> > > >thanks for the info chris... i am familiar with the dreaded clunk...
> > > >had mine done several years ago and just started to notice it starting
> > > >to bind again. they use a teflon grease. just wanted to know what you
> > > >used and the procedure... mine is just out of warranty so this
> >maneuver
> > > >will be all mine... how long does it take to do this? i hear there is
> > > >a bronze bearing in there that cannot be replaced and i dont want the
> > > >binding to get too bad...
> > > >
> > > >rob in PA
> > > >
> > > >Christian Bagley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I just used regular bearing grease. I removed the bolts from the
> >drive
> > > > > shaft which hold it to the rear diff then pulled the drive shaft out
> >of
> > > >the
> > > > > tranny/slipyoke, I then just took a lot of grease and rubbed it on
> >the
> > > >part
> > > > > of the drive shaft that goes in to the slip yoke(inside and outside)
> >and
> > > > > then greased the slip yoke as much as I could. Then I put the drive
> > > >shaft
> > > > > back in to the slip yoke and took it out several times to grease it
> >good
> > > >and
> > > > > added grease each time I took it back out to make sure it is very
> >well
> > > > > greased. When I was satisfied that it was greased enough, I just
> >put
> > > >the
> > > > > drive shaft back in place and bolted it up. This worked for about
> >6-8
> > > > > months with no problems. I did start to get the "bump" feeling at
> >about
> > > >8
> > > > > months after driving to and from work and taking several trips to
> >the
> > > >Outer
> > > > > Banks of NC on the beach, but I very rarely have this happen now and
> >it
> > > >has
> > > > > been almost a year since I did this. I hope this helps. If you go
> >to a
> > > > > dealer, they will tell you "they all do that" and say it is not a
> > > >problem
> > > > > but there is a TSB(Technical Service Bulletin) on this. Here is the
> >web
> > > > > site for TSB's and recalls for the 97 trucks
> > > > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/pro/TSB/9720_mo.html and here is the web
> >site
> > > >for
> > > > > 98's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/pro/TSB/9820_mo.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Good Luck,
> > > > > Chris
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. Sorry for the long post.
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Rob
> > > > > >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > > >To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > > >Subject: Re: FTE 97up - greasing the slip yoke (Chris)
> > > > > >Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:42:21 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > > > From: Christian Bagley[SMTP:c_bagley hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > > Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:47 AM
> > > > > > > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmission Problems
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rob,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do the RPM's go up and then it slams in to gear or does it
> >just
> > > >feel
> > > > > >like
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > jolt or almost like getting hit from behind? It may be the
> >slip
> > > >yoke
> > > > > > > > binding up. This has happened to my truck and after I grease....

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