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97up-list-digest Sunday, September 5 1999 Volume 02 : Number 237



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Re:needing info for RV E-450
FTE 97up - Re: Cracked Door Sheetmetal
Re: FTE 97up - Re:needing info for RV E-450
FTE 97up - Re: Cracked sheetmetal on door
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Cracked sheetmetal on door
Re: FTE 97up - Cracked door sheetmetal
FTE 97up - Cracked door sheetmetal
RE: FTE 97up - Cracked door sheetmetal
Re: FTE 97up - Cracked door sheetmetal
Re: FTE 97up - Cracked door sheetmetal

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Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 06:36:35 -0400
From: Rick Waldbart
Subject: FTE 97up - Re:needing info for RV E-450

Parker,

There is ....rec.outdoors.rv-travel....the news group.

Contact me by private email, I'll send you a URL for web page for the RV Club.


>wanting to get some information regarding my new '99 e-450 fun mover by four
>winds.

Rick


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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 09:19:21 EDT
From: JDavis1277 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Cracked Door Sheetmetal

Telephone calls to Ford will accomplish nothing. You must write. Keep it
short and sweet without any threats or emotion. You're seeking help on the
issue, not venting. Send the mail return receipt so they will know you are
keeping an audit trail on your correspondence.

Publicity works. Communicate this problem to every Ford related, truck
related, RV related, boating related, etc. web site. Encourage discussion on
the NGs that have interest in trucks like rec.rv, etc. Get some action going.

We all love Ford and don't want to do any harm, right. ;=) But, we need the
problem to be resolved, correctly. Potential buyers need to be warned of the
problem.

The last thing you want to do is hire a lawyer.... it'll cost you money and
you'll lose in the end. Ford has lawyers that fight claims for a living.
You won't beat them. Cheaper to buy a new door!!

Good luck,

Butch
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Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 09:58:12 -0400
From: Lamar Chapman
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re:needing info for RV E-450

At 06:36 AM 09/04/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>Parker,
>
>There is ....rec.outdoors.rv-travel....the news group.
>
>Contact me by private email, I'll send you a URL for web page for the RV
Club.
>
>
>>wanting to get some information regarding my new '99 e-450 fun mover by four
>>winds.
>
>Rick
>
>
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I would like to have the URL for the RV club web page too.
Thanks,
Lamar

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 08:21:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: chris coleman
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Cracked sheetmetal on door

Hey all, just food for thought. Doesn't Ford have a 5 year rust
through warrantee on our truck bodies??? Isn't this a way that (for
those of us outside of our warantee) we can get our doors fixed? I
haven't checked my Expedition, but, I'm sure that if all of you have
it, then, I do to.

Chris "Thermo" Coleman
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
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Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 11:48:17 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Cracked sheetmetal on door

At 08:21 AM 9/4/99 -0700, you wrote:

>Hey all, just food for thought. Doesn't Ford have a 5 year rust
>through warrantee on our truck bodies??? Isn't this a way that (for
>those of us outside of our warantee) we can get our doors fixed? I
>haven't checked my Expedition, but, I'm sure that if all of you have
>it, then, I do to.
>
>Chris "Thermo" Coleman

Unfortunately, no. Manufacturers don't warrant against
rust. They warrant again rust through. Basically, that
means the rust has to eat a hole completely through the
sheet metal before its covered.

Ken


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Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 15:34:28 -0400
From: CnC
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Cracked door sheetmetal

What kind of a truck do you have?

At 03:06 PM 9/3/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I didn't have to remove anything on mine....on both sides, the cracks were
>up about 4 inches from the bottom rear corner of the window, and in both
>cases, ran parallel with the bottom of the window....both are about 1/4 inch
>long right now
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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 00:26:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: dlsipe webtv.net (Darin Sipe)
Subject: FTE 97up - Cracked door sheetmetal

I asked a friend today to check his 97 F150 ext. cab w/p.w. He had the
same crack. This definitely seems to be a design problem. Mine is
already showing signs of rust. Any questions remaining that this is a
real problem?

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:48:14 -0500
From: "pennhead"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Cracked door sheetmetal

Once again... where is the crack? From my understanding it is a horizontal
crack parallel to the bottom of the window, and is up just a few inches from
the bottom of the rear corner of the window. On my '99 there is an extra
piece of rubber (in kind of an "L" shape) at the back corner of the side
windows that lays atop the rubber strip that surrounds the window opening.
Does everybody's have this extra layer of rubber? Is the crack visible
without pulling back any rubber seals or anything?

Thanks,
Penn

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[mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Darin Sipe
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 11:26 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Cracked door sheetmetal


I asked a friend today to check his 97 F150 ext. cab w/p.w. He had the
same crack. This definitely seems to be a design problem. Mine is
already showing signs of rust. Any questions remaining that this is a
real problem?

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 00:56:42 -0400
From: "Ron,Marge,Ted"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Cracked door sheetmetal

I checked my 98 F-150 SC today with only 14,000 miles on it and low and
behold I have the beginnings of the crack too! It is visible for probably
less than 1/8" so far.(can't really see whats behind the heavy curved corner
weatherstrip) Will need to bring this to my dealers attention later when I
take it in for a rear window leak and see what he says.
Ron
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From: Darin Sipe
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 12:26 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Cracked door sheetmetal


> I asked a friend today to check his 97 F150 ext. cab w/p.w. He had the
> same crack. This definitely seems to be a design problem. Mine is
> already showing signs of rust. Any questions remaining that this is a
> real problem?
>
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Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 01:07:29 -0400
From: Rob
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Cracked door sheetmetal

the crack on mine is about 1/4 inch down from the top of the curved
rubber piece. there is about 1/8 inch of it exposed on the sheet metal,
but is clear thru to the edge of the metal that you can see if you
gently pull back the curved rubber piece. was looking at this in motion
today... looks like the curve of the window doesnt match the curve of
the door... it really pushes out on the whole window frame along the
bottom and rear corner. i'm thinking about putting a thin layer of
silicone in the crack to seal it, then painting over it with touch up
paint (if ford doesnt respond) i dont want the rust to spread. any
bodymen out there with a good suggestion how to tackle this? i wouldnt
mind a little blemish, but damn this thing would be right in my face
everytime i opened the door.

rob in PA

pennhead wrote:
>
> Once again... where is the crack? From my understanding it is a horizontal
> crack parallel to the bottom of the window, and is up just a few inches from
> the bottom of the rear corner of the window. On my '99 there is an extra
> piece of rubber (in kind of an "L" shape) at the back corner of the side
> windows that lays atop the rubber strip that surrounds the window opening.
> Does everybody's have this extra layer of rubber? Is the crack visible
> without pulling back any rubber seals or anything?
>
> Thanks,
> Penn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Darin Sipe
> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 11:26 PM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 97up - Cracked door sheetmetal
>
> I asked a friend today to check his 97 F150 ext. cab w/p.w. He had the
> same crack. This definitely seems to be a design problem. Mine is
> already showing signs of rust. Any questions remaining that this is a
> real problem?
>
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