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To: 97up-list-digest Subject: 97up-list-digest V2 #229 Reply-To: 97up-list Sender: owner-97up-list-digest Errors-To: owner-97up-list-digest Precedence: bulk 97up-list-digest Friday, August 27 1999 Volume 02 : Number 229 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 97up - mirrors FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! Re: FTE 97up -No L/S on Lariet diesel? RE: FTE 97up -No L/S on Lariet diesel? FTE 97up - blueovalnews.com..good read Re: FTE 97up -No L/S on Lariet diesel? FTE 97up - parts source... FTE 97up - For Nathan at Union, LS availability on 2k 150 Re: FTE 97up -No L/S on Lariet diesel? FTE 97up - engine reving question FTE 97up - BlueOvalNews "Secret" Ford Memos Re: FTE 97up - engine reving question FTE 97up - Opinion of a new Ford Hood FTE 97up - Milage RE: FTE 97up - Milage FTE 97up - Blue Oval Re: FTE 97up - Blue Oval Re: FTE 97up - engine reving question ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 05:16:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Hunter Subject: FTE 97up - mirrors Hi Jack, I'm interested in the mirrors, I just need to know 2 things, 1st. do they fit a 1997, 4X4, wiht the power mirror? 2nd. did you install them your self, or how much did it cost to install them? Thanks in Advance. > I paid $200 for the mirrors and $333 for the fog light kit. Fog lights come > with all wiring and lower valance with or w/o tow hooks (I have both). > > Make me an offer and the highest offer gets it! I'll ship it this weekend > b/c I have to return the truck on Tuesday 8/31/99. > > Any questions please email me. > > Send questions and offers to JBowell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:43:45 -0400 From: "Keith Veren" Subject: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! Geez, with all the trouble everyone is having w/Gibson, you all should think about changing to Borla, like I did. I put the Borla stainless steel exhaust on my '98 Expedition XLT 4X4 and my '99 F-350 SuperDuty XLT V-10 4X4 (dual pipes, rear entry on the f-350). Each one bolted right up, fit perfectly, no problems, directions good, 1,000,000-mile warrentee, sound great, done right the first time. Gibson is less expensive than Borla; however, we all know what that sometimes means! Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: MStock56 To: Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 5:30 PM Subject: FTE 97up - Spare Tire Adapter > Does anyone know of an adapter for relocating the spare tire under the truck > a few inches further forward than the stock location? I am having difficulty > trying to replace my spare after installing a Gibson Cat-Back system on my > '99 F-150. Thanks! > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:55:01 -0400 From: "D'Amelio, Stephen M." Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! Thanks Keith, Any idea if Borla makes a side exhaust system? I would like to retain this on my 97. Steve D'Amelio Systems Administrator CVS/Pharmacy 1 CVS Drive Woonsocket, RI 02895 401-765-1500 x3351 FAX 401-762-4607 mailto:smdamelio > ---------- > From: Keith Veren[SMTP:Spectrum-EHS > Reply To: 97up-list > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 9:43 AM > To: 97up-list > Subject: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! > > Geez, with all the trouble everyone is having w/Gibson, you all should > think > about changing to Borla, like I did. I put the Borla stainless steel > exhaust on my '98 Expedition XLT 4X4 and my '99 F-350 SuperDuty XLT V-10 > 4X4 > (dual pipes, rear entry on the f-350). Each one bolted right up, fit > perfectly, no problems, directions good, 1,000,000-mile warrentee, sound > great, done right the first time. Gibson is less expensive than Borla; > however, we all know what that sometimes means! > > Keith > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:50:33 +0200 From: eh60ip Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! Keith, Have you noticed any improvement in gas mileage with the new pipes, or is it just a better sound? Don == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:51:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Hunter Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! Check out this site for the Borla... http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.quadratec.com/fordcat/Page15.htm > Thanks Keith, Any idea if Borla makes a side exhaust system? > I would like to retain this on my 97. > > Steve D'Amelio __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:27:01 -0400 From: "Keith Veren" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! Gas milage? I do not notice a change; however, I like to stomp on it a lot, so gas milage is going to suffer no matter what I put on the motor. Why do I like to stomp on it? It sounds so good! Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Francis To: Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 9:50 AM Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! > Keith, > > Have you noticed any improvement in gas mileage with the new pipes, or > is it just a better sound? > > Don > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:28:28 -0400 From: "Keith Veren" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! Yes, they do. I have also heard that they also can work with you if you have a specific pipe design you want created ($$$$$$)! Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: D'Amelio, Stephen M. To: Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 9:55 AM Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! > Thanks Keith, Any idea if Borla makes a side exhaust system? > I would like to retain this on my 97. > > Steve D'Amelio > Systems Administrator > CVS/Pharmacy > 1 CVS Drive > Woonsocket, RI 02895 > 401-765-1500 x3351 FAX 401-762-4607 > mailto:smdamelio > > > ---------- > > From: Keith Veren[SMTP:Spectrum-EHS > > Reply To: 97up-list > > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 9:43 AM > > To: 97up-list > > Subject: FTE 97up - Gibson Troubles? Get Borla! > > > > Geez, with all the trouble everyone is having w/Gibson, you all should > > think > > about changing to Borla, like I did. I put the Borla stainless steel > > exhaust on my '98 Expedition XLT 4X4 and my '99 F-350 SuperDuty XLT V-10 > > 4X4 > > (dual pipes, rear entry on the f-350). Each one bolted right up, fit > > perfectly, no problems, directions good, 1,000,000-mile warrentee, sound > > great, done right the first time. Gibson is less expensive than Borla; > > however, we all know what that sometimes means! > > > > Keith > > > > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:46:11 EDT From: FISHNG1 Subject: Re: FTE 97up -No L/S on Lariet diesel? I received two quotes on new 2000 superdutys that may replace my 99 F-350 PSD and it was hand written on the Lariet model that the L/S was not offered with the powerstroke for 2000. I have not yet talked to the fleet manager to ask if that is correct. Does any one else know anything about this? I may be trading my 99 in because of the low power while towing issue. I have driven several other 99's, 99.5's and even a 2000 and they did not exhibit this lack of towing power! Hope that Ford can help me out of this one, because that is why I own a PSD, to tow. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:04:46 -0500 From: Alex Levinson Subject: RE: FTE 97up -No L/S on Lariet diesel? What rear end do you have? - -----Original Message----- From: FISHNG1 Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 12:46 PM To: 97up-list Subject: Re: FTE 97up -No L/S on Lariet diesel? I received two quotes on new 2000 superdutys that may replace my 99 F-350 PSD and it was hand written on the Lariet model that the L/S was not offered with the powerstroke for 2000. I have not yet talked to the fleet manager to ask if that is correct. Does any one else know anything about this? I may be trading my 99 in because of the low power while towing issue. I have driven several other 99's, 99.5's and even a 2000 and they did not exhibit this lack of towing power! Hope that Ford can help me out of this one, because that is why I own a PSD, to tow. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:50:26 EDT From: RSnovi Subject: FTE 97up - blueovalnews.com..good read anyone who wants to know fords plans on most all important cars and trucks i recommend they take a look at all the documents on blueovalnews.com before it is shutdown by Ford and the legal system. RS == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:50:25 EDT From: RSnovi Subject: Re: FTE 97up -No L/S on Lariet diesel? In a message dated 99-08-26 13:49:24 EDT, you write: Sure you didnt get a lemon? if you really want to know if you are pitching you money away put it on the dyno like many of the Mustang cobra owners have done and now they getting the HP they deserve w/ fix in mufflers/ intake and computer. The RWHP numbers were quite far off from the advertised FoMoCo #s RS Date: 99-08-26 13:49:24 EDT From: FISHNG1 Sender: owner-97up-list Reply-to: 97up-list To: 97up-list I received two quotes on new 2000 superdutys that may replace my 99 F-350 PSD and it was hand written on the Lariet model that the L/S was not offered with the powerstroke for 2000. I have not yet talked to the fleet manager to ask if that is correct. Does any one else know anything about this? I may be trading my 99 in because of the low power while towing issue. I have driven several other 99's, 99.5's and even a 2000 and they did not exhibit this lack of towing power! Hope that Ford can help me out of this one, because that is why I own a PSD, to tow. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (rly-zc05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.5]) by air-zc04.mail.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:49:24 -0400 Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [192.41.63.203]) by rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:49:08 -0400 Received: (fordtruc 26 Aug 1999 13:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id NAA09226; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:47:06 -0400 (EDT) From: FISHNG1 Received: from FISHNG1 by imo13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id sCDGa13735 (4258) for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:46:11 EDT Subject: Re: FTE 97up -No L/S on Lariet diesel? To: 97up-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: owner-97up-list Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 97up-list >> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:01:03 -0700 From: Dave Conde Subject: FTE 97up - parts source... Anyone know of a good dealership (or other source) offering Ford parts for a discount? I need a few parts for my 95 F350 CC, and am used to buying parts for my Pontiac GTP via mailorder from a dealership far far away. It's been worth the significant discount Lambert Pontiac offers, and I'm hoping one of you has a similar parts source for our trucks. thanks, Dave Conde == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:37:21 EDT From: CERESJohnG Subject: FTE 97up - For Nathan at Union, LS availability on 2k 150 Nathan; I'm trying to sort out the availability of the limited slip differential on = a=20 2000 4x4 XLT supercab. 139" wb and I'm not sure I care for what I see. The way I read the literature I have, is it is only available in the =BD ton = as=20 a 3.55 ratio unless you get the 627 7700 lb optionwhere it is included as a=20 3.73 ratio. Now comes the odd part. What I have says that the XH9 option also requires=20 tires T55, T5N, or T5E. Going to those options I see: T55 4x2 only except included with 4x3 and 4x4 on xl w/94s sport group T5N available and included only w/Sport Group 94T on 4WD models T5E Available and included only with Off-Road Equipment Group 55R So, if I read that correctly, the only way to get a Limited Slip Differentia= l=20 on a 4x4 139"wb is to get the sport , offroad or 7700 lb packages.=20 It seems to get more restrictive with the 157" wb since the sport and 627=20 options are not available there. Am I reading this correctly? Thanks=20 John Gustafson == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:02:10 EDT From: FISHNG1 Subject: Re: FTE 97up -No L/S on Lariet diesel? I would be choosing the 3.73, as that is what I have now. Keep in mind that for now all I tow is my 18 ft. 3000 lb alumaweld boat. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:51:28 EDT From: TRITON46L Subject: FTE 97up - engine reving question i have a 99f-150 sc 4.6L v-8 4 spd auto 4x2 3.55 axle. it's got the sport package. the question or concern i have is as follows: when i'm at a stop or if i'm cruising along, and i punch the gas to the floor to pass or just see how much power the engine has, the tachometer spikes up to about 5000rpm. at this point i release the gas pedal because i feel that it is reving to high. the engine also has dohc which i've read allow the engine to rev and redline at a higher rpm point. redline is 6000 rpm. is it normal for the engine to spike up like this, or is this not good. i don't think it's a problem, but i'm not real confident in my opinion. also, when it revs up that high, the engine roars up pretty loudly this is why i back off the gas, i don't want to blow the engine. the engine has about 4500 MI on it thanks in advance for any help Bill TRITON46L == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:20:50 -0400 From: "Keith Veren" Subject: FTE 97up - BlueOvalNews "Secret" Ford Memos hmmm. How much of that BlueOvalNews do you suppose is true vs. potentially "planted" for one or another various reasons? I know if I was in charge of document security at Ford, I would definitely make sure some "test" documents were made up an distributed around to various groups so eventually I could see from which group a particular test memo was "leaked" to BlueOvalNews. The other thing I might do is have a Ford security person "pretend" to be a disgruntled Ford employee and have him (her) give "secret" memos to BlueOvalNews for a couple of reasons. 1. Leaks are very common in politics for the purpose of flying a "trial balloon" without anyone having to take responsibility for taking a stand. 2. If real secrets are being passed on BlueOvalNews, Ford could have counteracting or confounding additional memos "leaked" to obscure the their real intent. There are many interesting things that can be done in this "spy vs. spy" cat-and-mouse game! So, take all the "secrets" you read on BlueOvalNews with a grain of salt (or potassium chloride for those with high blood pressure on a sodium-restricted diet). Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:50 PM Subject: FTE 97up - blueovalnews.com..good read > anyone who wants to know fords plans on most all important cars and trucks i > recommend they take a look at all the documents on blueovalnews.com before it > is shutdown by Ford and the legal system. > > RS > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:26:28 -0400 From: "Keith Veren" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - engine reving question You won't blow the engine. The computer will prevent that. Just enjoy the fact that you can rev-it-up and have some pretty decent power on tap. In fact, STOMP on it! Its fun! Noise you hear is normal for the huge amount of intake air, exhaust and a big engine with a crankshaft rotating almost 100 times per second! Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 6:51 PM Subject: FTE 97up - engine reving question > i have a 99f-150 sc 4.6L v-8 4 spd auto 4x2 3.55 axle. it's got the sport > package. > the question or concern i have is as follows: > when i'm at a stop or if i'm cruising along, and i punch the gas to the floor > to pass or just see how much power the engine has, the tachometer spikes up > to about 5000rpm. at this point i release the gas pedal because i feel that > it is reving to high. > the engine also has dohc which i've read allow the engine to rev and redline > at a higher rpm point. redline is 6000 rpm. is it normal for the engine to > spike up like this, or is this not good. > i don't think it's a problem, but i'm not real confident in my opinion. > also, when it revs up that high, the engine roars up pretty loudly this is > why i back off the gas, i don't want to blow the engine. > the engine has about 4500 MI on it > > thanks in advance for any help > Bill > TRITON46L > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:29:21 -0500 From: Danny Claus Subject: FTE 97up - Opinion of a new Ford Hood If you get a chance, please check out 0000,0000,ffff - - it features the F1-hood for the F150 and Ranger. I'd like to hear everyone's opinion of this - thanks Danny Claus dsc3542 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:10:46 -0400 From: Alan Subject: FTE 97up - Milage Hopefully I can get a consencess from some people on my mileage. I have a 99 F350, PSD, CC, Dually, LWB, 4x4, with 15k miles on it. Big Truck... 4:10 gears. When I first got the truck I was getting 13 to 15 mpg. This winter it fell to about 12 and the dealer said they all do worse in the winter. Ok it's summer now and it has fallen to 10 to 11 now. What are most of these big trucks getting? I was told as it broke in it would get better, not worse. Dealer says nothing wrong it is just my driving and the size of the truck. Any help out there? Thanks Alan == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:10:45 -0400 From: "William Suarez" Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Milage Alan, I've got a "smaller" rig than you, 99.5 PSD 250 SC SWB 4x4 with 13k miles and 3.73 rear end. I get between 18 and 20 in normal commuting, a little less at highway (70mph) and about 10-12 towing my 9,500 lb fifth wheel that's 11 1/2 feet high (lots of drag). Regards, Bill Suarez - -----Original Message----- From: owner-97up-list [mailto:owner-97up-list Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 9:11 PM To: 97up-list Subject: FTE 97up - Milage Hopefully I can get a consencess from some people on my mileage. I have a 99 F350, PSD, CC, Dually, LWB, 4x4, with 15k miles on it. Big Truck... 4:10 gears. When I first got the truck I was getting 13 to 15 mpg. This winter it fell to about 12 and the dealer said they all do worse in the winter. Ok it's summer now and it has fallen to 10 to 11 now. What are most of these big trucks getting? I was told as it broke in it would get better, not worse. Dealer says nothing wrong it is just my driving and the size of the truck. Any help out there? Thanks Alan == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:08:14 -0400 (EDT) From: CoreyPratt Subject: FTE 97up - Blue Oval >=A0a. Use of Ford trademarks on the site. >BlueOvalNews' main =A0 page has Ford's logo on >it. Funny...Ford doesn't sue over the "Calvin pissing on a ford logo" stickers! >b. Conversion of Ford property. BlueOvalNews >has take internal =A0 Ford documents and on >several occasions, published them on =A0 the >web. Yet it's okay for 20/20, 60 Minutes, or your local news to publish this type of information. >c. Interference with Ford contractual relations >with its employees. =A0 Ford employees are >bound by non-disclosure. BlueOvalNews is =A0 >getting its information from Ford employees >who are ignoring =A0 their non-disclosure >clauses. Then why doesn't Ford sue the workers instead of the publisher? Because they would have the UAW to deal with then. >unethical and is nothing more than industrial >espionage. So you feel the problems the owners are not aware of...yet SHOULD be told about....should remain covered up by Ford? >Don't you think GM reads that site to get an >inside scoop? It can certainly have a negative >impact on Ford. If Ford has to worry about BON as a major cutthroat then they are in worse shape than ever...what next??? Sue me because I say "Ford products suck" and someone decides not to purchase a Ford because of my comment? >The news, which is what BlueOvalNews >claims to provide, is great, and is protected by >the Constitution. Internal spying, however, is a >completely different thing. They do not pay anyone to bring this info to them...it is brought by Ford people voluntarly...yet BON is the oe punished? >Would it be constitutional for you to sneak into >my home, take my diary and publish it on the >Internet? Heck no! So what's the difference? You speak of two different things...criminal acts and whistle blowing...if your wife took your diary, gave it to me and I published it...who would you sue???? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:55:27 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Blue Oval At 10:08 PM 8/26/99 -0400, you wrote: > > a. Use of Ford trademarks on the site. >BlueOvalNews' main page >has Ford's logo on >it. > >Funny...Ford doesn't sue over the "Calvin pissing on a ford logo" >stickers! Ford often takes steps against companies using their logos without license. > >b. Conversion of Ford property. BlueOvalNews >has take internal >Ford documents and on >several occasions, published them on the > >web. > >Yet it's okay for 20/20, 60 Minutes, or your local news to publish this >type of information. 60 minutes doesn't publish stolen design memos for future vehicles. > >c. Interference with Ford contractual relations >with its employees. > Ford employees are >bound by non-disclosure. BlueOvalNews is > >getting its information from Ford employees >who are ignoring their >non-disclosure >clauses. > >Then why doesn't Ford sue the workers instead of the publisher? Because >they would have the UAW to deal with then. Ford is trying to track down the leaks. They said the people at fault will be dealt with. Who gives a hoot about the UAW? The UAW isn't in the design meetings, they only protect the interests of line workers even if its at the expense of the health of the company. Look at what's been going on with Saturn and you'll understand. > >unethical and is nothing more than industrial >espionage. > >So you feel the problems the owners are not aware of...yet SHOULD be >told about....should remain covered up by Ford? I think future design information should not be stolen. > >Don't you think GM reads that site to get an >inside scoop? It can >certainly have a negative >impact on Ford. > >If Ford has to worry about BON as a major cutthroat then they are in >worse shape than ever...what next??? Sue me because I say "Ford >products suck" and someone decides not to purchase a Ford because of my >comment? Saying Ford sucks and publishing stolen documents are at completely different ends of spectrum. > >The news, which is what BlueOvalNews >claims to provide, is great, and >is protected by >the Constitution. Internal spying, however, is a > >completely different thing. > >They do not pay anyone to bring this info to them...it is brought by >Ford people voluntarly...yet BON is the oe punished? BON knew they were stolen. And its alleged that BON sold some of the documents they obtained. > >Would it be constitutional for you to sneak into >my home, take my >diary and publish it on the >Internet? Heck no! So what's the >difference? > >You speak of two different things...criminal acts and whistle >blowing...if your wife took your diary, gave it to me and I published >it...who would you sue???? Since when is theft not a criminal act? There is such a thing as right and wrong. Taking documents you know are stolen is illegal. It was not a case of whistle-blowing. Since when are documents about future F150 vehicle designs whistle-blowing? I guess my standard aren't the same as yours. I didn't post Ford trademarks on our site until we started selling LICENSED Ford products on our site, and then only on the products page. As a web site publisher, I take copyrights **very** seriously and I even try to guard the copyrights of those who submit items to the site. Its obvious that some people don't take copyrights seriously. I only post information in our web site news section that are used with permission (I have access to Ford's press site). Ken == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:13:00 -0400 From: Jean Marc Chartier Subject: Re: FTE 97up - engine reving question TRITON46L > > i have a 99f-150 sc 4.6L v-8 4 spd auto 4x2 3.55 axle. it's got the sport > package. > the question or concern i have is as follows: > when i'm at a stop or if i'm cruising along, and i punch the gas to the floor > to pass or just see how much power the engine has, the tachometer spikes up > to about 5000rpm. at this point i release the gas pedal because i feel that > it is reving to high. > the engine also has dohc which i've read allow the engine to rev and redline.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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