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97up-list-digest Wednesday, August 25 1999 Volume 02 : Number 227



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In this issue:

RE: FTE 97up - Headers for a PSD Q: Nathan
Re: FTE 97up - rear brakes dragging
FTE 97up - Return receipts
RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Cat Back Exhaust
RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Cat Back Exhaust
Re: FTE 97up - rear brakes dragging
FTE 97up - PSD Warranty? Is it 100k?
Re: FTE 97up - PSD Warranty? Is it 100k?
Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Cat Back Exhaust

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:05:58 -0500
From: "David Moore "
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Headers for a PSD Q: Nathan

He's a busy guy! here's the info you needed:

I have the following part numbers

F-250/350 extension and Catalyst delete pipe
XC3Z 5A212 EA for 142" wb
XC3Z 5A212 BA for 156" wb
XC3Z 5A212 DA for 158" WB
XC3Z 5A212 CA for 172" wb
XC3Z 5A212 GA for 176" WB

hope this helps.

Nathan

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In a message dated 99-08-23 19:39:06 EDT, you write:


hello Nathan are you out there in for the part numbers one more time for
this guy on the Cat delete pipe....


RS

Date: 99-08-23 19:39:06 EDT
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Whats the part # for the cat delete pipe?

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In a message dated 99-08-23 18:04:38 EDT, you write:


which parts were you looking for, there are a few companies makeing down
pipe
for around 150. and cat backs 450+/-. Alos FOMoCo has cat Delete pipe
already
made for us Early '99 7.3's


RS


Date: 99-08-23 18:04:38 EDT
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Got a question for you technical guys out there. Does anyone make a
header for the 7.3 liter PSD? I was thinking about changing the exhaust
setup and or having some of the factory components jet-hot coated to
reduce the under hood temperature.

Any thoughts on if it's worth the trouble or not?

Thanks! Don

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:42:11 -0700
From: Dave Santo
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - rear brakes dragging

James Menne wrote:

[snip]


James,

How about turning OFF your browser's requesting of a "return receipt" from your
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:07:52 +0200
From: eh60ip mail.apcnet.com (Don Francis)
Subject: FTE 97up - Return receipts

I agree! Folks need to turn off the return receipts request when
posting to this group!

My 2 cents

Don

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:49:33 -0500
From: "pennhead"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Cat Back Exhaust

excellent!

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>Guys, with all this talk about custom exhaust systems and difficult
>installations, perhaps it might be high time to revisit the local muffler
>shop with the experienced exhaust man. There was a time, in my youth, when
>every vehicle I owned had newly installed headers run wide open across town
>to the muffler shop, where the man with the plan fabricated (from scratch)
a
>complete dual exhaust system, starting with straight pipe, a bending
>machine, and the mufflers of my choice (usually cherry bombs or turbo
>mufflers). He also used clamps in lieu of welding, so it didn't have to be
>cut apart should you wish to modify something.
>
>Perhaps I'm just tripping down memory lane.
>
>I know things have changed under the trucks, but the need for experienced
>exhaust men has not. I have one here in town that wouldn't be afraid to
>tackle any job, I suspect... The same guy who installed all my exhausts all
>those years ago. I'm certain he will be included when I evaluate my
exhaust
>options in the future.
>
>Your thoughts, anyone?


I did a very simple muffler install. I cut off the old muffler/tailpipe
just in front of the muffler. Then I clamped on a 50 series Flowmaster
onto the end, then clamped on a mandrel-bent 45-degree pipe (as a
turn-down) on the back of the muffler. I hung it using a strap around the
existing hanger. Sounds great and a noticeable improvement in
power/torque. And, about 1.5 more MPG. Total cost: $71. Total time:
about two hours with "help" from our six-year old.

Danny

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:52:57 -0500
From: "pennhead"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Cat Back Exhaust

Wow! A one BILLION mile warranty?!? Just my luck, it would break at
1,000,000,001 miles :)

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pennhead wrote:
>
> Guys, with all this talk about custom exhaust systems and difficult
> installations, perhaps it might be high time to revisit the local muffler
> shop with the experienced exhaust man. There was a time, in my youth,
when
> every vehicle I owned had newly installed headers run wide open across
town
> to the muffler shop, where the man with the plan fabricated (from scratch)
a
> complete dual exhaust system, starting with straight pipe, a bending
> machine, and the mufflers of my choice (usually cherry bombs or turbo
> mufflers). He also used clamps in lieu of welding, so it didn't have to
be
> cut apart should you wish to modify something.
>
> Perhaps I'm just tripping down memory lane.
>
> I know things have changed under the trucks, but the need for experienced
> exhaust men has not. I have one here in town that wouldn't be afraid to
> tackle any job, I suspect... The same guy who installed all my exhausts
all
> those years ago. I'm certain he will be included when I evaluate my
exhaust
> options in the future.
>
> Your thoughts, anyone?
>

Pennhead,

It seems the better systems, Borla etc.., are easier to
install and have some R&D behind them to help increase HP,
torque, sound... I had put a Borla on my 97 F-150 4x4 by
the local muffler shop for $30.00 CDN. They could have
built me a system from stainless but it would have been
guess work and the cost would have been more than the
Borla. The Borla has a 1,000,000,000 mile warrantee.

I had the system replaced twice by Borla no questions
asked. The Muffler shop even wrote on the invoice that they
attempted to weld (for free, Borla was willing to pay for
it) before they replaced it. When the second muffler came I
put it on myself and saved the $30.00. It was easy and took
all of 20 minutes. Do not attempt this on a hot system. I
guess a combo of good quality products and a reputable shop
go hand in hand. The question remains do you want to pay
for your system or not.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:14:41 -0400
From: CnC
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - rear brakes dragging

At 10:42 AM 8/24/99 -0700, Dave Santo wrote:
>James Menne wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>
>James,
>
>How about turning OFF your browser's requesting of a "return receipt" from
your
>emails.
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yeah, that's a good starter!




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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:22:20 -0500
From: "David Moore"
Subject: FTE 97up - PSD Warranty? Is it 100k?

Is the PSD warranty on the engine really 100,000 miles? If so what are the
limits?

Thanks,

david

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:57:30 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - PSD Warranty? Is it 100k?

In a message dated 99-08-24 19:24:16 EDT, you write:


as far as i know engine is 100K, now to what accessories it covers may be a
different matter.

RS


Date: 99-08-24 19:24:16 EDT
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Is the PSD warranty on the engine really 100,000 miles? If so what are the
limits?

Thanks,

david

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