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97up-list-digest Wednesday, August 18 1999 Volume 02 : Number 220



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FTE 97up - pulls right on crowned roads
Re: FTE 97up - pulls right on crowned roads
FTE 97up - Off Topic
RE: FTE 97up - Off Topic
FTE 97up - New tires
Re: FTE 97up - New tires
FTE 97up - ADMIN: Submit your technical articles!
RE: FTE 97up - pulls right on crowned roads

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:49:40 -0400
From: Norm Hurst
Subject: FTE 97up - pulls right on crowned roads

Hi folks-

Last month I bought a 97 F150 SC SB 4WD with 28000 miles. It's great
except that it pulls to the right pretty hard, especially on crowned roads
(roads higher in the middle). If I let go for more than a second I will be
headed off the road. And the steering seems stiff, especially going
straight ahead. If I drive on the left of a crowned road, it pulls left
about the same. If I drive on an interstate (not crowned), it pulls right,
but not as much. All this in 2WD mode.

Is this something I should expect with a 4x4 suspension/etc/etc in 2WD
mode? Or is the alignment just whacky?

Thanks,

- -Norm


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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:20:06 EDT
From: "Christian Bagley"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - pulls right on crowned roads

It seems as though your alignment is off a little. I know with some trucks
that have the independant front suspension, if you put it in 4WD and pull on
something real hard, it could very easily throw the alignment out of wack.
I haven't had that problem with my truck but it pulls to the right a little,
but that is probably because I was hit in the front pretty bad a while back
and the alignment has been a little off every since it was "fixed". So, I
would get it checked. Also, there have been some people that went to get
their trucks aligned and were told they needed a kit put on the truck to
align it. Most of the time you will not need the kit. If anyone knows any
more about this please post it. Thanks

Chris


>From: Norm Hurst
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE 97up - pulls right on crowned roads
>Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:49:40 -0400
>
>Hi folks-
>
>Last month I bought a 97 F150 SC SB 4WD with 28000 miles. It's great
>except that it pulls to the right pretty hard, especially on crowned roads
>(roads higher in the middle). If I let go for more than a second I will be
>headed off the road. And the steering seems stiff, especially going
>straight ahead. If I drive on the left of a crowned road, it pulls left
>about the same. If I drive on an interstate (not crowned), it pulls right,
>but not as much. All this in 2WD mode.
>
>Is this something I should expect with a 4x4 suspension/etc/etc in 2WD
>mode? Or is the alignment just whacky?
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Norm
>
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:28:47 -0400
From: "Suarez, William"
Subject: FTE 97up - Off Topic

Pardon the off topic post but I'm looking for someone who used to frequent
the list.

If anyone has an email address for Dick Dorff could they please forward it,
back channel, to me at: mailto:wsuarez wsuarez.com.

Thanks in advance,

Bill Suarez

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:45:32 -0500
From: Dmoore dmoore.com
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Off Topic

Dick Dorff

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Subject: FTE 97up - Off Topic


Pardon the off topic post but I'm looking for someone who used to frequent
the list.

If anyone has an email address for Dick Dorff could they please forward it,
back channel, to me at: mailto:

Thanks in advance,

Bill Suarez

______________________________________________
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mailto:wsuarez netsilicon.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.netsilicon.com/


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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:51:02 -0400
From: "D'Amelio, Stephen M."
Subject: FTE 97up - New tires

Hi all,

I just took an extended lunch and put
on a set of 265/75 16's on my 97 F-150 SC.
I had 255/70's on as stock. The tire/gear
calculator that someone from the list posted
a while back was very helpful. Thanks to
whomever did that. My tire diameter
went from 30.1" to 31.6"

I have the 5.4L and 3.55:1 gears with a posi
and tow package. The difference (initially)
in response is unnoticeable. I can still spin
them off the rims if need be, I can't say
enough about this engine.

What I didn't like at all was the Goodyear
Wrangler AP tires I had. They were absolutely
worthless in the rain. Even with the posi rear
end I could hardly leave a stop sign in
the rain.

I ended up with a "less than brand name"
tire. I put on a set of Jetzons (Rat's right Rorge)
that are pretty aggressive and definitely priced
right ($107/per). I was looking at some Michelin
LTX's but got sticker shock at $179/per tire. I have
a local Jetzon dealer and have had good luck
with these tires in the past.I believe Jetzon
is made by Kelly-Springfield, which is a
division of Goodyear.
Steve D'Amelio
Systems Administrator
CVS/Pharmacy
1 CVS Drive
Woonsocket, RI 02895
401-765-1500 x3351 FAX 401-762-4607
mailto:smdamelio cvs.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cvs.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:20:23 -0700
From: Rich and Mari Cower
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - New tires

For future reference also take a look at Tirerack.com.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.tirerack.com/index.jsp

We purchased BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A, paid shipping and installation and
still saved $ over any local shop. They have 3 warehouses to ship from and
ours came UPS the day after we ordered them.

Rich and Mari Cower

"D'Amelio, Stephen M." wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just took an extended lunch and put
> on a set of 265/75 16's on my 97 F-150 SC.
> I had 255/70's on as stock. The tire/gear
> calculator that someone from the list posted
> a while back was very helpful. Thanks to
> whomever did that. My tire diameter
> went from 30.1" to 31.6"
>
> I have the 5.4L and 3.55:1 gears with a posi
> and tow package. The difference (initially)
> in response is unnoticeable. I can still spin
> them off the rims if need be, I can't say
> enough about this engine.
>
> What I didn't like at all was the Goodyear
> Wrangler AP tires I had. They were absolutely
> worthless in the rain. Even with the posi rear
> end I could hardly leave a stop sign in
> the rain.
>
> I ended up with a "less than brand name"
> tire. I put on a set of Jetzons (Rat's right Rorge)
> that are pretty aggressive and definitely priced
> right ($107/per). I was looking at some Michelin
> LTX's but got sticker shock at $179/per tire. I have
> a local Jetzon dealer and have had good luck
> with these tires in the past.I believe Jetzon
> is made by Kelly-Springfield, which is a
> division of Goodyear.
> Steve D'Amelio
> Systems Administrator
> CVS/Pharmacy
> 1 CVS Drive
> Woonsocket, RI 02895
> 401-765-1500 x3351 FAX 401-762-4607
> mailto:smdamelio cvs.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cvs.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:19:03 -0400
From: kpayne ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Submit your technical articles!

Hi gang,

This is the web site admin for Ford Truck Enthusiasts. As many of
you know, we have a technical article section on the web site. Its
been a while since an article has been submitted and that section of
the site is a little stale. We like to have a lot of fun stuff for
our visitors. If you'd like to submit an article which describes a
project you've undertake, even a simple project such as installing a
K&N kit, please feel free to submit it to kpayne ford-trucks.com.
We'll publish it on the web site, along with full credit to you and
you retain the copyright.

Later,
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:00:05 -0500
From: "James Menne"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - pulls right on crowned roads

Norm,

I have had a '95 and still have a '97 F-350 dually 2 WD. The both pulled.
The very same situation. The service manager's truck, and one of the service
tech.'s truck also. After no less than 4 trips to the dealership with the
first one they misaligned the front end to compensate. From then on it went
straight down the road as I thought it was supposed to. When I bought the
'97 it was the same crap. I drove it home, called the dealership, and made
an appointment to have the front end misaligned to the same specs as before.
They were most cooperative, and this truck now also goes straight down the
road. If there are any FORD engineers on this list, an explanation would be
helpful. The front tires take a beating.

Jim Menne

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From: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
[mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com] On Behalf Of Norm Hurst
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 9:50 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - pulls right on crowned roads

Hi folks-

Last month I bought a 97 F150 SC SB 4WD with 28000 miles. It's great
except that it pulls to the right pretty hard, especially on crowned roads
(roads higher in the middle). If I let go for more than a second I will be
headed off the road. And the steering seems stiff, especially going
straight ahead. If I drive on the left of a crowned road, it pulls left
about the same. If I drive on an interstate (not crowned), it pulls right,
but not as much. All this in 2WD mode.

Is this something I should expect with a 4x4 suspension/etc/etc in 2WD
mode? Or is the alignment just whacky?
....


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